Tofauti kati ya Yesu na Nabii Issa

Gavana said:
Soma mwenyewe

JESUS WAS GAY, ACCORDING TO MARK
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NImekwambia Holy Bible reference please hatuna hadith kwenye ukristo

embu elezea apa kwa nn jamaa alitaka kumuacha mke kisa kawa mnene mpaka mke kaamua kutoa zamu yake ya ngono kwa Aisha katoto cha 9yrs

Mmoja wa wake wengi wa Muhammad (alikuwa na angalau wake tisa wakati mmoja, ingawa Qur'an 4: 3 inasema Waislamu ni wake wanne mwisho) alikuwa mwanamke aitwaye Sauda bint Zama'ah. Kama mzee Sauda, aliwahi kuwa mnene kupindukia sana, na Muhammad aliamua kumsaliti. Akiogopa kuwa ameachwa katika uzee wake, Sauda alipanga mpango.

Alijua kwamba Aisha alikuwa mke wa Muhammad, na kwamba Muhammad angependa kutumia muda zaidi na Aisha. Kwa hivyo Sauda alimwambia Muhammad kuwa, kama angeweza kumuweka kama mke wake na kuto kumuacha, atampa usiku wa ngono kwa Aisha. Hivyo, Muhammad angeweza kutumia mara mbili kwa muda mrefu na Aisha. Muhammad alikuwa na furaha na utaratibu, na pia Allah, ambaye alifunua Surah 4, mstari wa 128:
 
kukumdogo said:
Kwahiyo leo unampinga allah wenu na mudy aliewapa hizo hadisi. Sasa waambie waislam wenzako kuwa hadisi zatume ni uzushi
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Maskini kifaranga.

Mimi nilikwambia kuwa wewe huna elimu ila ukawa unajitutumua.

Aliekwambia kama Hadithi ni maneno ya mtume au ya Allah nani?

Hadithi imeanza ivi " Nilimuona mtume wa Allah..." Sasa kama hadithi ni maneno ya mtume vipi aseme alimuona mtume wa Allah wakati ndio yeye mwenyewe?

Utajizonga bure kwenye huu uwanja.... NINI MAANA YA HADITHI? nakupa nafasi nyengine
 


gospel of Mark haimo katika Biblia yako?
Sumari limekukwama pabaya

http://www.christianity-revealed.com/cr/files/jesuswasgayaccordingtomark.html
 


Nashukuru kwa kukubaliana na Mimi kwamba Quran imehalalisha zina [emoji106][emoji122][emoji122]

Hiyo ayat 223 ng'ombe nimekujibu hapa ref screenshot[emoji116]unajibiwa afu unapotezea [emoji12] na ndipo nikakupa CHANGAMOTO kama wewe NI MUUMINI shababi funua haya [emoji117] aya hiyo imeshuka wapi, sababu ya kushuka, na mtume kaifundishaje [emoji44]
 
Gavana said:
Bishop wa Alexandria, Clement ni waislamu

Umeanza kuchanganyikiwa
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Ukiambiwa unaongwazwa na aya ya majini utabisha. Wewe weka mstari wa bible sio link ulizolishwa na sheik mohamad subuwana
 
Unaweza kuonesha wapi nimekubaliana na wewe kuhusu zinaa?

Aya ulioileta imetoa ruhusua ya mtu na mkewe, au hujui maana ya wake? kama hujui sema tukufundishe. Ila inawezekana ukawa hujui maana ndoa kwenye ukiristo si aghlabu kabisa. Nyie mnakaa miaka na miaka na kuzaliana kisha ndio kufunga ndoa na kanisa linaruhusu haya yote. sasa sijui nani anahalalisha zinaa hapa.

Bibilia nayo imehalalisha zinaa;

Numbers 31:18
18- Lakini hao watoto wote wa kike ambao hawakumjua mume kwa kulala pamoja naye, mtawaweka hai kwa ajili yenu.

Usiikimbie hii aya tafadhali
 
kukumdogo said:
Ukiambiwa unaongwazwa na aya ya majini utabisha. Wewe weka mstari wa bible sio link ulizolishwa na sheik mohamad subuwana
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The Secret Gospel of Mark was in fact the complete version of Mark, and what we have is the edited version by the Church fathers. Barnstone at 340 lists as being visible signs of this editing process Mark 4:ll; 9:25-27; 10:21, 32,38-39; 12:32-34; 14:51-52.

What, then, were these "true things" that the Church fathers hoped to hide from the untutored eyes of the average Christian?

What was the unspeakable?

St. Clement quotes from this complete, "Secret” Gospel of Mark" at length towards the end of his letter.

Clement in the last third of his letter to Theodore wrote:

“To you, therefore I shall not hesitate to answer the questions you have asked refuting the falsifications by the very words of the [Secret] Gospel” (Barnstone 342). "And they come into Bethany. And a certain woman whose brother had died was there. And she prostrated herself before Jesus and says to him, ‘Son of David, have mercy on me.’ But the disciples rebuked her. And Jesus, being angered, went off with her unto the garden where the tomb was, and straightway a great cry was heard from the tomb. And going near, Jesus rolled away the stone from the door of the tomb. And straightway, going in where the youth was, he stretched forth his hand and raised him, seizing his hand. But the youth, looking upon him, loved him and began to beseech him that he might be with him. And going out of the tomb they came into the house of the youth, for he was rich. And after six days Jesus told him what to do and in the evening the youth came to him, wearing a linen cloth over his naked body. And he remained with him that night, for Jesus taught him the mystery of the Kingdom of God. And thence, arising, he returned to the other side of the Jordan."

“After these words follows the text, “And James and John come to him,” and all that section. But “naked man with naked man,” and the other things about which you wrote, are not found.

“And after the words, ‘And he comes into Jericho,’ the secret Gospel adds only, ‘And the sister of the youth whom Jesus loved, and his mother and Salome were there, and Jesus did not receive them. But many other things about which you wrote both seem to be and are falsifications. ”

“Now the true explanation and that which accords with the true philosophy. ”1

This passage quoted by Clement from the Gospel, could be interpreted as an account of a baptism preformed by Jesus on this young lad—and some do—but for 3 facts. One that Clement and the Church fathers not only suppressed the passage but found it “scandalous.”
 
unashindwa nn kuweka mistari una quote vi stori ambavyo avina mbele wala nyuma
 
kukumdogo said:
Ukiambiwa unaongwazwa na aya ya majini utabisha. Wewe weka mstari wa bible sio link ulizolishwa na sheik mohamad subuwana
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Unataka Mark ya kutoka biblia ipi
Na biblia imesema huyo unayemuabudu ni mwanaharamu na ninihii

This letter is strong evidence that the Secret Gospel of Mark was in fact the complete version of Mark, and what we have is the edited version by the Church fathers. Barnstone at 340 lists as being visible signs of this editing process Mark 4:ll; 9:25-27; 10:21, 32,38-39; 12:32-34; 14:51-52. What, then, were these "true things" that the Church fathers hoped to hide from the untutored eyes of the average Christian? What was the unspeakable?

St. Clement quotes from this complete, "Secret” Gospel of Mark" at length towards the end of his letter. Clement in the last third of his letter to Theodore wrote: “To you, therefore I shall not hesitate to answer the questions you have asked refuting the falsifications by the very words of the [Secret] Gospel” (Barnstone 342). "And they come into Bethany. And a certain woman whose brother had died was there. And she prostrated herself before Jesus and says to him, ‘Son of David, have mercy on me.’ But the disciples rebuked her. And Jesus, being angered, went off with her unto the garden where the tomb was, and straightway a great cry was heard from the tomb. And going near, Jesus rolled away the stone from the door of the tomb. And straightway, going in where the youth was, he stretched forth his hand and raised him, seizing his hand. But the youth, looking upon him, loved him and began to beseech him that he might be with him. And going out of the tomb they came into the house of the youth, for he was rich. And after six days Jesus told him what to do and in the evening the youth came to him, wearing a linen cloth over his naked body. And he remained with him that night, for Jesus taught him the mystery of the Kingdom of God. And thence, arising, he returned to the other side of the Jordan."

“After these words follows the text, “And James and John come to him,” and all that section. But “naked man with naked man,” and the other things about which you wrote, are not found.

“And after the words, ‘And he comes into Jericho,’ the secret Gospel adds only, ‘And the sister of the youth whom Jesus loved, and his mother and Salome were there, and Jesus did not receive them. But many other things about which you wrote both seem to be and are falsifications. ”

“Now the true explanation and that which accords with the true philosophy. ”1

This passage quoted by Clement from the Gospel, could be interpreted as an account of a baptism preformed by Jesus on this young lad—and some do—but for 3 facts. One that Clement and the Church fathers not only suppressed the passage but found it “scandalous.”
 
Haya ni mafundisho ya quraan ya allah na Muhamed wake. Bible haipo hivyo.
 
Achana na stori walizotunga sheikh weka mistari ya biblia. We unaambiwa uweke mistari ya biblia unaweka hadisi za mtume. Wakristo hawana hadisi tunabiblia pekee. Hatufati stori za vijiweni ila tunafata biblia.
 
kukumdogo said:
Haya ni mafundisho ya quraan ya allah na Muhamed wake. Bible haipo hivyo.
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Wewe umechanganyikiwa kama huyo unayemuabudu , Biblia imemwita ni chizi

“I’m afraid the conclusion is unavoidable. Jesus is insane—and we are not the only ones who think so.

Even his family thought Jesus was nuttier than a fudge sundae.

Mark 3:21 says

‘When his family heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, He is out of his mind.’”
 
kukumdogo said:
Achana na stori walizotunga sheikh weka mistari ya biblia. We unaambiwa uweke mistari ya biblia unaweka hadisi za mtume. Wakristo hawana hadisi tunabiblia pekee. Hatufati stori za vijiweni ila tunafata biblia.
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Tulia vitu hivi vya kifaa cha huyo unayemuabudu kama mungu

  • John 13:23 One of his disciples—the one whom Jesus loved—was reclining next to him; (Lazarus also reclined with Jesus in John 12)
  • John 19:26 When Jesus saw his mother and the disciple whom he loved standing beside her, he said to his mother, “Woman, here is your son.”
  • John 20:2 So she ran and went to Simon Peter and the other disciple, the one whom Jesus loved, and said to them, “They have taken the Lord out of the tomb, and we do not know where they have laid him.”
  • John 21:7 That disciple whom Jesus loved said to Peter, “It is the Lord!” When Simon Peter heard that it was the Lord, he put on some clothes, for he was naked, and jumped into the sea.
  • John 21:20 Peter turned and saw the disciple whom Jesus loved following them; he was the one who had reclined next to Jesus at the supper and had said, “Lord, who is it that is going to betray you?”
 
Siku zamwisho kutakuwa na mafundisho yapotoshayo nayo ni mafundisho ya mashetani. Hivyo jihadharini na hayo maana ni yampinga kristo. Mafundisho yoyote yatakayokuwa kinyume na Yesu hayo ni yampinga kristo.. So iliandikwa miaka zaidi ya 700 kabla ya mtume wa allah mudy kuzaliwa ambaye yeye ni mtume wa yule mpinga kristo. Ila nikupe siri tu sisi tunatamshinda kwa dam ya mwanakondoo na maneno ya ushuhuda wake.

Kwahiyo Sisi jina la Yesu kwetu ni silah tosha maana inaangamiza ngome zote za adui. Nikipita msikitini nataja jina la Yesu na Majini yote yanataharuki.
 
Usisome biblia kama unasoma quran, kuna mlolongo ambao unaleta maana sio unachomoa ka mstari unaleta kupotosha soma vizuri apo

Mark 3
20 Yesu akarudi nyumbani. Umati wa watu ukamfuata tena, hata yeye na wanafunzi wake wakashindwa kula chakula. 21 Ndugu zake walipopata habari walikuja kumchukua kwa maana watu walikuwa wakisema, “Amerukwa na akili.”


22 Walimu wa sheria waliotoka Yerusalemu walikuwa wakisema, “Amepagawa na Beelzebuli, mkuu wa mashetani; na ni kwa uwezo wa Beelzebuli anawafukuza mashetani.”

23 Basi Yesu akawaita akazungumza nao kwa mifano: “Shetani awezaje kufukuza shetani? 24 Ikiwa utawala wa nchi umegawanyika wenyewe, hauwezi kudumu. 25 Hali kadhalika kama jamaa moja ime gawanyika yenyewe kwa yenyewe, jamaa hiyo haiwezi kudumu. 26 Na kama shetani akijipiga vita yeye mwenyewe hatatimiza cho chote ila mwisho wake umekaribia. 27 Pia hakuna mtu awezaye kuivamia nyumba ya mtu mwenye nguvu na kumwibia vitu vyake vyote pasipo kwanza kumfunga huyo mwenye nyumba mwenye nguvu. Akisha mfunga, ndipo anaweza kumwibia kila kitu.


28 “Nawaambieni kweli, dhambi zote watendazo wanadamu na maneno yote ya kufuru wasemayo, watasamehewa. 29 Lakini ye yote anayemtukana Roho Mtakatifu hatasamehewa kamwe, atakuwa na hatia ya dhambi ya milele.” 30 Yesu alisema hivi kwa sababu walikuwa wanasema ana pepo mchafu.
 
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