Uchochezi wa Mohamed Said na dhihaka kwa Wapigania Uhuru wa Tanganyika na Zanzibar


Ni kweli mzee hawezi kukufikia wewe na yeye ni sawa na mchanga na nyota inshaalah mwenyezi mungu atakupa maisha marefu
 
mgashi said:
mzee ms kama unayo wewe si uiweke? Na vipi kujibu baadhi ya maswali mepesi kwako halafu yale ya maana unayapotzea?
Hebu mzee tutendee haki jibu maswali yote ya mmm, nguruvi3, jasusi, mag3, nk.
Tutendee haki mzee ms.
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M,

Sikiliza bwana.

Mimi nimendika kitabu hiki ni ''serious work.''

Laiti ningefanya ''doctoring'' ya aina yoyote wale wahariri wangenikamata.

Acha hao wahariri hata hapa nyumbani wasomi wa historia pale Chuo Kikuu
cha Dar es Salaam wasingeniachia khasa kwa kuwa historia hii inahusu historia
ya Nyerere.

Hiyo hotuba nimeiskia na siko peke yangu wengi wameisikia na hivyo nilivyosema
ndivyo hivyo.

Nyerere alisahau cheo cha Abdu katika TAA.
Sina sababu ya kuongopa.

Hii hotuba ningelikuwanayo ningeiweka siku nyingi.

Kuhusu maswali mimi siko hapa kufanya ubishi na yeyote yule.
Ushindi katika JF hauna maana yoyote kwangu.

Isitoshe hiki kitabu mbona ni cha zamani sana na historia hii ndiyo inachukuliwa
kuwa historia ya kweli ya uhuru wa Tanganyika.

Sasa mimi kipi kinihangaishe?
Ila huwa maswali mengine nayapuuza kwa sababu mbalimbali.

Sababu zenyewe nishazieleza hapa jamvini.
 

Nimekupinga wazi na kwakukuumbua zaidi kwa ngano zako nimekupa hotuba ile ya kuaga taifa unayodai wewe kuwa Mwalimu alisema hakumbuki Abdul Sykes alikuwa na heo gani!

Sasa tumethibitisha wazi kupitia hotuba hiyo niliyoiweka pale juu kuwa Mwalimu alisema Abdul alikuwa KATIBU mkuu wa TAA!

Kama unaipinga hii tuletee hiyo hotuba yako wewe inayoeleza vingine!
 

Yericko,

Hebu jitulize na usome historia vizuri umjue baba yako.

Iko siku utaalikwa wewe umzungumze baba yako Insha Allah.
Ikiwa hutamueleza sawa utafedheheka wewe na nduguzo.

Nyerere hakumshinda Abdu kwa kishindo.
Wewe husomi posting zangu?

Mbona hili nishakuwekea?

After Abdulwahid and Nyerere had gone out, voting began. Abdulwahid ‘lost' the election-the first loss in his whole political career-and Nyerere won by a very small margin.[1]

Hayo mengine siwezi kukujibu.
Nakuonea huruma.

Wewe ni tofauti sana na kaka zako.
Tukijuana sana na nduguzo katika 1960s tukiwa shule.

Tukenda ''picnic'' kule Kigamboni kwenye ile
nyumba iliyokuwa ikitumiwa na Gavana kwa mapumziko.

Nawajua ndugu zako vizuri sana.
Wazee wetu walitoka mbali pamoja.

Naona umeshtuka.

Mimi nikija na Kleist Sykes, Ebby Sykes, Lilian Sykes na huyu
Yusuf (marehemu) wa London, Magombe mtoto wa Chief Makongoro
na rafiki zetu wengine...

Waulize kaka zako...



[1] See Listowel, op. cit. p 221 also Iliffe, A Modern History... op. cit. p 510.
 

Ni watu wa karibu sana kwangu, tumeshakuwa kama ndugu zangu wa damu kabisa, ilhali ni "family friends", lao langu, langu lao. Nimeenda kwa Shufaa mara mbili tatu, Yussuf alikuwa mtu wa pekee Mwenyeezi Mungu amrehem.

Shufaa, huwezi amini hajabadilika, MashaAllah kama alivyokuwa miaka 20 nyuma, na sasa analea wajukuu.

Huyo Yericko ni wakumsameh tu kama ulivyosema, hana alijuwalo anatapatapa. Hajarudi tena ya Abushiri kama alivyoahidi kabla ya kuonja "Mkwawa Knock-out".
 

MS kuwa na kitabu katika library of congress haimaanishi lolote kuhusu facts za kitabu ulichoandika, au kwamba mwandishi ni mtu mahiri, intelligent, intellectual whatsoever. Haya mambo mdanganyane huko huko Tanzania nakupa mfano kuhusu mpuuzi huyu hapa chini:

Library of Congress has a book for Akin (bonyeza hiyo link)


The Library of Congress can suggest a book or two that might enlighten Todd Akin about how women get pregnant.
In its current exhibit "Books That Shaped America," one of the 88 books highlighted is the classic "Our Bodies, Ourselves," which the library calls a "groundbreaking publication that presented accurate information on women's health and sexuality based on their own experiences."
The book came out in a new edition last year for its 40th anniversary.
Akin has asked "forgiveness" for his stupidity in claimingwomen's bodies can "shut that whole thing down" during rape to prevent pregnancy. The GOP wants more than Akin's backtracking for using the "wrong words" while making his case against legal abortion. (Only 20 percent of Americans agree with Akin and Rep. Paul Ryan that abortion should be outlawed in all circumstances. )
As easy as it would be to mock Akin, perhaps we need to take his words at face value: Maybe his statement is one supporters believe.
So, they too, might want to educate themselves with some of the books the Library of Congress highlights (it includes one from Ryan's nightstand, "Atlas Shrugged" and an early pamphlet on preventing pregnancy, Margaret Sanger's 1914 "Family Limitation").
Several others are by folks with Missouri roots (including Mark Twain, Dale Carnegie, Irma Rombauer). The list is a mixture of fact ("Our Bodies") and fiction ("Atlas Shrugged").
It never hurts for voters to remind themselves of the difference. For the complete list, click here.

C'moon bro! JF si mahali pa kuleta porojo.
 

Kwa kweli Yericko,

Hili la hotuba nilishakupa msimamo wangu hatuna haja ya sie kunasa hapa.
 

Mzee wewe unamatatizo tena unahitaji msaada wa kiutu haraka sana,

Tangu tulipo anza mjadala huu ukiulizwa kitu unakijibu kwa rejea za ngano ama wajibu KIHUNI


Simama kwenye hoja, jibu hoja kama iilivyouliza, ikiwa hupendi kujibu nyamaza acha kuleta porojo zisizo na mafaa kwa watazamaji!
 

N,

Lakini mimi siyo Akin wala si mpuuzi na kitabu changu kipo hapo pamoja na vitabu
vya waandishi wengine.

Wala siko hapa JF kwa porojo kwani porojo si sifa yangu.

Labda hujui.

Miaka mingi sana nyuma nilipewa heshima ya kuwa member wa Libary of Congress
na Tanzania nzima tuliopata bahati hiyo tulikwa watu watano tu.

Hiki ni kisa chake ukipenda nitakiweka hapa jamvini.

Umekasirishwa na historia hii.
Hili nalielewa sana.

Watu wanaoifurahia historia hii hivi sasa ni Waislam pele yao.
Sishangai na hamaki ulizoshukanazo.

 

N,

Lakini mimi siyo Akin wala si mpuuzi na kitabu changu kipo hapo pamoja na vitabu
vya waandishi wengine.

Wala siko hapa JF kwa porojo kwani porojo si sifa yangu.

Labda hujui.

Miaka mingi sana nyuma nilipewa heshima ya kuwa member wa Libary of Congress
na Tanzania nzima tuliopata bahati hiyo tulikwa watu watano tu.

Hiki ni kisa chake ukipenda nitakiweka hapa jamvini.

Umekasirishwa na historia hii.
Hili nalielewa sana.

Watu wanaoifurahia historia hii hivi sasa ni Waislam pele yao.
Sishangai na hamaki ulizoshukanazo.

 
Mohamed Said said:
Kwa kweli Yericko,

Hili la hotuba nilishakupa msimamo wangu hatuna haja ya sie kunasa hapa.
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Unataka tuendelee kwa matakwa yako?

Tuendelee kufuata ngano zako?

Nikusifu kwa moyo mmoja wa uandishi wa NGANO uliotukuka, kwakweli naamini Shigongo kwako haoni ndani!

Lakini kinyume chake ninakupuuza na kukulaani kwa kugeuza ngano zako za Gerezani kuwa historia ya Uhuru wa nchi hii takatifu!

Ninaamini nchi hii ngekuwa ya mfumo kristu kama unavyodai wewe, leo hii tungeshakusahau kwenye uso wa dunia!

Ungeshanyongwa siku nyingi sana hata matanga wangeshasahau nduguzo!

Lakini kwakuwa nchi hii ni tambarale iliyowekwa wima na kujengwa imara na Mtakatifu Julius Nyerere, wewe leo hii umesoma na unaendelea kulichonganisha taifa bila kufinywa wala kusonywa!
 

Yericko,

Watu wanatusikiliza.

Wewe umesema Nyerere ameshinda kwa kishindo uchaguzi
wake na Abdu Sykes 17 April 1953 pale Arnautoglo.

Mimi nimekuwekea rejea ya Listowel na Iliffe inayosema Nyerere
kashinda kwa ''small margin.''

Unasema nimejibu kihuni na ninahitaji msaada.
Unasema Listowel na Illife rejea zao ni za ngano.

Kwa kweli kama hali ni hii anaehitaji msaada si mimi bali ni wewe.
Kwani huwajui hao akina Listowel na Iliffe?

Nilikwambia siku nyingi mtego wako umekamata chui.
Na chui mwenyewe ndiyo mimi.

Basi umeshindwa hata kusema neno zuri kuhusu kaka zako?

La mwisho.

Huu uchaguzi Nyerere hakupata kuusema popote hadi anaingia kaburini.

Hata waandishi wa historia hawajautaja popote katika vitabu vyao ukiwatoa
hao wawili niliokuwekea kama rejea.

Siku zote huwa ''Nyerere kachukua uongozi wa TAA 1953.''
Kachukua uongozi kutoka kwa nani?

Hilo halisemwi.
 

Yericko,

Chembelecho Zomba.
Wewe una ''viroja'' huna hoja.

Umeshusha hadhi yangu mimi ningefananishwa na Ernest Hermingway
Mark Twain au Irving Wallace ingekuwa kitabu kile ni ''fiction.''

Unawajua waandishi hawa au ndiyo hiyo ''conspiracy book.''
Kwa kweli nakupa mji.

Wewe huwezekani ni kiboko khasa.
 

Ndugu yangu umeathiriwa na Nyererephobis mpaka unabadili maana ya kushinda nakuwa kuchukua?

Nikitabu kipi kinachosema Mwalimu Nyerere "alichukua" uongozi badala ya kushinda uchaguzi ule?

Usianze kuwadanganya watu kwa vitu wanavyovijua mkuu, hata historia ya TANU ya pale Kivukoni imesema wazi kuwa "Mwalmu alishinda uchaguzi ule wa TAA 1953 na kuwa RAIS wa TAA hadi kuelekea TANU"

Unaelewa maana ya andiko la Listowel na Iliffe inayosema Nyerere
kashinda kwa "small margin?"

Au unadhani neno small margin ni ushindi wa mezani?
 

Mkuu twende taratibu na pia huo utaratibu wa kudhania yeyote anayekuwa critical na maoni yako amekasirishwa na unachoongea ni upotofu wa kujenga hoja na ni tatizo kubwa sana ktk jamii ya kitanzania, hatutishani lete hoja utajibiwa hoja. Ok kabla hatujaenda mbali unaweza kulithibitishia jamvi hili kwa kutoa copy ya ID membership ya library of congress na baada ya hapo ntakuletea list ya wapuuzi wengi walio na vitabu vyao library of congress!
 

Mohamed Said nitakuwa mjivi wa fadhila ikiwa kwa medula yangu iliyosimama wima nitaanza kukulinganisha wewe na Ernest Hermingway
Mark Twain au Irving Wallace,

Nimekupa stahiki yako kuwa ni SHIGONGO sio hao wengine!
 

Yericko,

Huko kwenye ''sematics'' pia hutoniweza.
Nina merit pass English Oral First Class Cambridge.

Sasa wewe jiulize haka katoto ka Gerezani vipi English language
akang'ara?

Si nimekwambia Wamanyema tambo ndiyo zetu?
Pili tunapenda shari.

Ile vagi yenu ya Musoma ya mishale kwetu cha mtoto.

Soma historia ya Dar es Salaan ya 1930s na 1940s uone babu zetu
wakiangusha vurugu inakuwaje.

We hushangai mimi 1980s naandika Nyerere hakuaasisi TANU Nyerere yu hai
na sikuogopa?

Nasema hayo nikujua kuwa yeye hiyo historia haipendi khasa ukitaja Waislam.

Darasa zima la Literature in English hatukuzidi watu 10.
Mimi ndani hapo Mswahili peke yangu hapo Magoa na Wazungu.

Mwalimu wetu Miss Menez.
Msichana wa Kigoa.

Tukampachika nickname ''Lanky.''

Hii chini hukuiona nilikuwekea toka asubuhi hebu isome labda itazibua
akili yako:


  • Yericko,

    Unaandika kwa pupa bila tafakuri.
    Hii inatokana na kutojua historia ya baba yako na Abdu Sykes.

    Muulize mama yako atakufahamisha ikhsani iliyokuwapo baina yao.

    Bibi yako Bi. Mugaya na Bi. Mluguru biti Mussa mama yake Abdu
    walikuwa mashoga wakubwa sana.

    Unakifahamu kile kisa cha Nyerere ''kulishwa sumu'' kilitokea nyumbani
    kwa Bi Mluguru.

    Andika kwa adabu unapomtaja Abdu Sykes huyu ni baba yako.
    Kwetu sisi rafiki ya baba yako ni baba yako.

    Sasa tuendelee.

    Soma hapa chini mambo yalivyokuwa wakati wa uchaguzi wa 1953 kati ya
    Abdu Sykes na Nyerere:

    [TABLE="class: cms_table_MsoNormalTable"]
    [TR]
    [TD] The election was by a show of hands. Phombeah who was in charge of the Arnatouglo Hall was the returning officer.

    Phombeah asked both Abdulwahid and Nyerere to go out of the hall for voting to begin.

    The whole week before voting Phombeah was making rounds campaigning for Nyerere. But there was no need of doing that; the TAA inner circle of Abdulwahid, Ally, Dossa Aziz and Rupia had already decided to make Nyerere president of the Association and the election was a mere formality. After Abdulwahid and Nyerere had gone out, voting began.

    Abdulwahid ‘lost' the election-the first loss in his whole political career-and Nyerere won by a very small margin.[1]

    This was the beginning of the end of the influence of the Sykes family in the TAA and the beginning of Nyerere's political career. From that day the political history of Tanganyika was never to be the same again.    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 601"] It is strange that this milestone in Nyerere's life has neither been documented nor accorded importance.

    In his whole political career Nyerere was never again to face a more formidable opponent than Abdulwahid.

    This contest between Abdulwahid and Nyerere has become a legend.

    Some reports have it that Abdulwahid won the election, others say Nyerere won by a single vote; yet others say that TAA members had to vote thrice to get the winner since the votes were tying.

    Dossa Aziz reports that Abdulwahid did not lose that election, and went on to say that:     [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 601"] ''There was no way Nyerere could defeat Abdulwahid in Dar es Salaam of 1950s. Abdulwahid was not defeated in that election. We all wanted it to be that way. We wanted Nyerere to assume TAA leadership.''[2]
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 601"] Nyerere himself has never talked about this election or how he came to lead the Party in Dar es Salaam.

    The nearest he got to reflect on Abdulwahid was in the farewell speech to Elders of Dar es Salaam, and unfortunately his memory failed him as he could not recall what post Abdulwahid was occupying when he (Nyerere) joined TAA in 1952.     [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 601"] In order to understand the dilemma facing Abdulwahid, Nyerere and the TAA leadership, particularly the inner circle, one has to keep in mind that Muslims were a majority in Dar es Salaam and were in control of local politics.

    Very few Muslims had confidence in mission-educated Christians. They were perceived as being too close to the colonial state to take a leading role in the struggle for independence, and many people used the election to show their objection to Nyerere.

    They saw him as an outsider withdrew their support from the association. Nyerere was new to the town.

    He had no political base of his own and was for the most of the week teaching at Pugu, outside Dar es Salaam.

    Abdulwahid was flamboyant and as president of TAA he had put colour into the office. He used to invite TAA activists to his house for lunches and dinners and this added to his popularity.

    At that time many thought Nyerere would not fit into Abdulwahid's shoes.     [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]


    [1] See Listowel, op. cit. p 221 also Iliffe, A Modern History... op. cit. p 510.

    [2] Dossa Aziz, interviewed in 1987.
    ​
 

Ahsante Nanren koko.
 
Yericko Nyerere said:
Mohamed Said nitakuwa mjivi wa fadhila ikiwa kwa medula yangu iliyosimama wima nitaanza kukulinganisha wewe na Ernest Hermingway
Mark Twain au Irving Wallace,

Nimekupa stahiki yako kuwa ni SHIGONGO sio hao wengine!
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Unavyopenda.

Sasa wewe nikulinganishe na nani?
Juha Kalulu au Tembo Moja Potea?
 
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