Uchochezi wa Mohamed Said na dhihaka kwa Wapigania Uhuru wa Tanganyika na Zanzibar

[Nguruvi3]

Akigombana na hao ulowataja ndio kuwa hakuifungia EAMWS kwa husda
Waislam wataneemeka na Chuo Kikuu walichokuwa wanataka kujenga?

Mohamed, majibu yao hayajajibu hoja ya Ngongo. Ameuliza vipi alipogombana na wakristo, je aliuchukia ukristo? Na Kikwete naye na akina Ponda je ameuchukia Uislam?

Hakuna mahali ameuliza kuhusu EAMWS, labda tu kama unatafuta mlango wa kutokea kama kawaida yako.
Hata hivyo tutakufuata huko huko EAMWS.
Mohamed, EAMWS ilianzia Mombasa, je na huko Nyerere aliipiga marufuku.
Agakhan ndiye alikuwa mlezi wa EAMWS, kwanini yeye anarudi kujenga chuo kikuu kule kule alikoona dhulma.
Je, unaamini kuwa EAMWS iliwalenga wazawa ambao hadi sasa hawajaweza kusimamia taratibu za madrsa alichilia mbali shule.

Na mwisho, kwanini waswahili tu na wala si Ismailia, Bohora au Shia! kwanini Nyerere awe na husda na waswahili tu.

 

[Son of Alaska]

Son...

Kwani nyinyi mmeshindwa kiasi mnahitaji masaada wa FFU?[/QUOTE

hao ni specialised unit,mnapenda ku take refuge ndani ya misikiti-hawa wanaingia na kukuflush out,ikiwezekana hata tear gas zinatumika-sisi hatuwezi hiyo kazi tuna huruma sana kutokana na mafunzo ya bible

 

[Yericko Nyerere]

Gwalihenzi,

Wewe ndiyo acha longolongo wewe!

Mimi nina vitabu niloandika kwa mkono wangu.
Mimi nina papers nilizotoa katika vyuo vikuu kwa kinywa changu.

Longolongo ni wewe.
Mimi ni scholar.

Ushahidi ni huu nyote mmejumuika mmeshindwa hata kuja
na nusu paper tukaijadili.

Mkuu unadhani kuwa tupo hapa kwa ushindani katika uzi huu? Laiti kama tungekuwa katika ushindani huo basi ulishashindwa siku nyingi sana tangu uzi huu uanze,

Hujajibu hoja zote zilizopo kwenye maandiko yangu pale juu na zaidi hujajibu hoja za wadau makini hapa jukwaani waliobega kwa bega nasi katika mnakasha huu.

Yatendee haki kwanza hayo kisha jinasibu.

 

[Mohamed Said]

Mkuu unadhani kuwa tupo hapa kwa ushindani katika uzi huu? Laiti kama tungekuwa katika ushindani huo basi ulishashindwa siku nyingi sana tangu uzi huu uanze,

Hujajibu hoja zote zilizopo kwenye maandiko yangu pale juu na zaidi hujajibu hoja za wadau makini hapa jukwaani waliobega kwa bega nasi katika mnakasha huu.

Yatendee haki kwanza hayo kisha jinasibu.

Yericko,

Sahib wangu karibu jamvini.

 

[Ritz]

Mkuu unadhani kuwa tupo hapa kwa ushindani katika uzi huu? Laiti kama tungekuwa katika ushindani huo basi ulishashindwa siku nyingi sana tangu uzi huu uanze,

Hujajibu hoja zote zilizopo kwenye maandiko yangu pale juu na zaidi hujajibu hoja za wadau makini hapa jukwaani waliobega kwa bega nasi katika mnakasha huu.

Yatendee haki kwanza hayo kisha jinasibu.

Vipi nyumbani hawajambo lini utaenda butiama kuleta ushahidi.

 

[Nguruvi3]

Gwalihenzi,

Wewe ndiyo acha longolongo wewe!

Mimi nina vitabu niloandika kwa mkono wangu.
Mimi nina papers nilizotoa katika vyuo vikuu kwa kinywa changu.

Longolongo ni wewe.
Mimi ni scholar.

Ushahidi ni huu nyote mmejumuika mmeshindwa hata kuja
na nusu paper tukaijadili.

Mohamed, scholar!real!

Nikupe kionjo kidogo.
Huko nyuma umeeleza ...........Abdul Sykes alianzisha TANU na ndoto zake kutimia rasmi 6 years (1954).
Hapa ulimaanisha kuwa alianzisha TANU 1948 presumably akiwa vitani.

Post zilizofuata ukamnukuu Abdul Sykes akisema ....... yeye akiwa ni founder wa TANU.

Mara nyingi umekuwa unamwekea Sykes maneno asiyosema(evidence zipo), kuna u-scholar wa namna hiyo kweli.
Nitakubaliana nawe ukisema wewe ni story teller

 

[Mohamed Said]

Son... Kwani nyinyi mmeshindwa kiasi mnahitaji masaada wa FFU?[/QUOTE hao ni specialised unit,mnapenda ku take refuge ndani ya misikiti-hawa wanaingia na kukuflush out,ikiwezekana hata tear gas zinatumika-sisi hatuwezi hiyo kazi tuna huruma sana kutokana na mafunzo ya bible

Msome Pengo. Nadhani yeye mafunzo yake ni makubwa kukushinda:

It was on Friday at 1pm after afternoon prayer outside of Mwembechai mosque. In that scenario, policemen used excessive power and firearmsto shoot Muslims. Four people were killed by police bullets and many wounded. During andafter policemen shooting, the following things were observed which brought about tensionbetween Muslims and Christians. These are well explained by Hamza Mustafa Njozi in his book Mwembechai Killings and the political future of Tanzania.(i) About 300 people were arrested at Mwembechai in which one third of themwere Christians.(ii) Although charges were the same to both Muslims and Christians (two third,and one third respectively), Christians and Muslims were sent to differentcourts. All Christians were sent to the Kivukoni court and Muslims to theKisutu Court(iii) All Christians who were sent to Kivukoni court were immediately grantedbail, and all Muslims were denied bail, even in cases where the suspectsneeded special medication.(iv) His Eminence Polycarp Cardinal Pengo expressed his support to the killingsin a TV. The Cardinal said police did not use unnecessarily excessive force,the use of live bullets was perfectly justified because Muslims were also armed with stones. And stones could kill. 7(v) No NGO, no human rights group, no gender sensitization, no political part, nolaw society stood up to publicly condemn the killings or the sexual harassmentof Muslim women.If we analyze above bullets points with a critical eye, we can observe the following: (i)Statement of Cardinal Pengo marked high tensions and conflicts between Christians andMuslims. As the highest religious official in Catholic Church in Tanzania, he was not supposedto come with such statement on public. And if we use Ali Shariati ' s concept of True and FalseReligion, it is beyond doubt that Cardinal Pengo falls under False Religion. He is in support of killings, disunity, against humanity etc. (ii) The government under Christian President, BenjaminWilliam Mkapa has shown discrimination and oppression towards people from Islamiccommunity. What the court did to Muslims was not fair at all and was against fundamenta lhuman rights.

 

[Yericko Nyerere]

Akigombana na hao ulowataja ndio kuwa hakuifungia EAMWS kwa husda
Waislam wataneemeka na Chuo Kikuu walichokuwa wanataka kujenga?

Hoja kuu ya Ngogo imesimama huru inahitaji majibu yako siyo haya uyajibuyo ndugu yangu.

 

[Mohamed Said]

Mohamed, scholar!real!

Nikupe kionjo kidogo.
Huko nyuma umeeleza ...........Abdul Sykes alianzisha TANU na ndoto zake kutimia rasmi 6 years (1954).
Hapa ulimaanisha kuwa alianzisha TANU 1948 presumably akiwa vitani.

Post zilizofuata ukamnukuu Abdul Sykes akisema ....... yeye akiwa ni founder wa TANU.

Mara nyingi umekuwa unamwekea Sykes maneno asiyosema(evidence zipo), kuna u-scholar wa namna hiyo kweli.
Nitakubaliana nawe ukisema wewe ni story teller

Nguruvi,

Nilikuwa na rafiki yangu Mmarekani tunakwenda Chicago tukitokea Ohio City.
Tunapita pembeni ya Mississipi River.

Akanionesha ule mto.
Mimi nikamwambia asiwe na haja ya kunieleza mimi naujua sana.

Akashangaa nikamwambia mimi nilipokuwa mtoto nilikuwa nacheza hapo na rafiki
yangu Tom Sawyer.

Akanambia, ''Mohamed you amaze me.''

Nikamjibu, ''I am related to Mark Twain.''

Akacheka sana akanambia, ''So you are Mohamed Twain.''

Nikamjibu, ''No, I am Irving Wallace.''

Nguruvi hujakosea.

I am a gifted story teller just like Irving Wallace.
Seriously I am not jocking.

Try me out.

 

[Mohamed Said]

Mohamed, majibu yao hayajajibu hoja ya Ngongo. Ameuliza vipi alipogombana na wakristo, je aliuchukia ukristo? Na Kikwete naye na akina Ponda je ameuchukia Uislam?

Hakuna mahali ameuliza kuhusu EAMWS, labda tu kama unatafuta mlango wa kutokea kama kawaida yako.
Hata hivyo tutakufuata huko huko EAMWS.
Mohamed, EAMWS ilianzia Mombasa, je na huko Nyerere aliipiga marufuku.
Agakhan ndiye alikuwa mlezi wa EAMWS, kwanini yeye anarudi kujenga chuo kikuu kule kule alikoona dhulma.
Je, unaamini kuwa EAMWS iliwalenga wazawa ambao hadi sasa hawajaweza kusimamia taratibu za madrsa alichilia mbali shule.

Na mwisho, kwanini waswahili tu na wala si Ismailia, Bohora au Shia! kwanini Nyerere awe na husda na waswahili tu.

N,

Mnakasha unaanza upya?
Never ending story!

 

[Ritz]

Nguruvi,

Nilikuwa na rafiki yangu Mmarekani tunakwenda Chicago tukitokea Ohio City.
Tunapita pembeni ya Mississipi River.

Akanionesha ule mto.
Mimi nikamwambia asiwe na haja ya kunieleza mimi naujua sana.

Akashangaa nikamwambia mimi nilipokuwa mtoto nilikuwa nacheza hapo na rafiki
yangu Tom Sawyer.

Akanambia, ''Mohamed you amaze me.''

Nikamjibu, ''I am related to Mark Twain.''

Akacheka sana akanambia, ''So you are Mohamed Twain.''

Nikamjibu, ''No, I am Irving Wallace.''

Nguruvi hujakosea.

I am a gifted story teller just like Irving Wallace.
Seriously I am not jocking.

Try me out.

ha haa haaa!!.

 

[Yericko Nyerere]

N,

Mnakasha unaanza upya?
Never ending story!

Kwani nani aliufunga? Mpaka hoja za msingi zipatiwe ufumbuzi.

 

[Mohamed Said]

Mohamed Saidi, huishi kujigamba! hujibu hoja kama msomi, umejaa majungu na fitina. Twambie kilikushinda nini kumhoji marehemu Nyerere ili utuletee na upande mwigine wa shilingi? Hillo huna majibu zaidi ya tambo zako za kitoto za kujiita wewe ni scholar! Scholar gani ambaye hawezi ku "Balance story"? Scholar gani ambaye anaandika kitu anachokiita Historia ya wazee wake bila hata kuleta ushahidi wa watu wengine anaowashambulia kwa sababu tu sio waislam! Kwanini uishikie kidedea story ya sivalon kana kwamba ni msahafu ambao hautakiwi kupingwa bila hata kumsikiliza Nyerere mwenyewe anayetuhumiwa? Wacha upuuzi na majigambo yasiyo nafaida yoyote katika jamii ya wapenda amani.

G,

Mpuuzi ni wewe.
Au hujui?

 

[Mzee Mwanakijiji]

Post zilizofuata ukamnukuu Abdul Sykes akisema ....... yeye akiwa ni founder wa TANU.

Mara nyingi umekuwa unamwekea Sykes maneno asiyosema(evidence zipo), kuna u-scholar wa namna hiyo kweli.
Nitakubaliana nawe ukisema wewe ni story teller

A story teller he is! right on... tunaweza kusema kwa kweli ni msimulizi mzuri, anajua kupamba simulizi lake kwa lugha akificha ajenda zake za udini nyuma ya masimulizi; akijitahidi kwa maandishi yake kuwafarakanisha Wakristu na Waislamu wa Tanzania na akitumia ujuzi mdogo wa baadhi ya mashabiki wake kuwaambia mambo ambayo yanavunja kanuni zote za uandishi wa kihistoria, kinyume na mantiki na yanapingana na ukweli wa historia. Masimulizi yake yote kwa kweli yamejaa maneno mengi na ukweli kidogo...

 

[Mohamed Said]

Scholar you are not sire, no you are not... a pseudo scholar you are..

If I am far from being a scholar
Who are you?

A JF jester?

 

[Yericko Nyerere]

A story teller he is! right on... tunaweza kusema kwa kweli ni msimulizi mzuri, anajua kupamba simulizi lake kwa lugha akificha ajenda zake za udini nyuma ya masimulizi; akijitahidi kwa maandishi yake kuwafarakanisha Wakristu na Waislamu wa Tanzania na akitumia ujuzi mdogo wa baadhi ya mashabiki wake kuwaambia mambo ambayo yanavunja kanuni zote za uandishi wa kihistoria, kinyume na mantiki na yanapingana na ukweli wa historia. Masimulizi yake yote kwa kweli yamejaa maneno mengi na ukweli kidogo...

Na zaidi ngano zake ni msahafu, hazibishiwi wala kuhojiwa,

 

[Mohamed Said]

A story teller he is! right on... tunaweza kusema kwa kweli ni msimulizi mzuri, anajua kupamba simulizi lake kwa lugha akificha ajenda zake za udini nyuma ya masimulizi; akijitahidi kwa maandishi yake kuwafarakanisha Wakristu na Waislamu wa Tanzania na akitumia ujuzi mdogo wa baadhi ya mashabiki wake kuwaambia mambo ambayo yanavunja kanuni zote za uandishi wa kihistoria, kinyume na mantiki na yanapingana na ukweli wa historia. Masimulizi yake yote kwa kweli yamejaa maneno mengi na ukweli kidogo...

MM,

Hao hapo chini ndiyo mafatani:

The second book is by Dr John C. Sivalon, who in his expose, Kanisa Katoliki na Siasa ya Tanzania Bara 1953 Hadi 1985, [1] unmasks a conspiracy in the government to subvert Islam. Sivalon revealed that the Catholic Church as far back as 1961 was worried by two prospects. First, was the unity between the Muslim madhheb (sect) of Sunni, Bohora, Ismailia and Ithnasheri in Tanganyika; and the second, was the transfer of the headquarters of the East African Muslim Welfare Society (EAMWS) from Mombasa to Dar es Salaam. The Church was worried that the resources in the hands of rich Asian Muslim community in East Africa, coupled with the political power of African Muslims, particularly in Tanganyika, would endanger Christian interests in East Africa. The Church therefore declared Islam as its enemy in the country and plotted to thwart its progress.[2]

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[1] John C. Sivalon, Kanisa Katoliki na Siasa ya Tanzania Bara 1953 Hadi 1985, (Ndanda, 1992).
[2] Ibid. p 37.

 

[Ritz]

Mohamed Saidi, huishi kujigamba! hujibu hoja kama msomi, umejaa majungu na fitina. Twambie kilikushinda nini kumhoji marehemu Nyerere ili utuletee na upande mwigine wa shilingi? Hillo huna majibu zaidi ya tambo zako za kitoto za kujiita wewe ni scholar! Scholar gani ambaye hawezi ku "Balance story"? Scholar gani ambaye anaandika kitu anachokiita Historia ya wazee wake bila hata kuleta ushahidi wa watu wengine anaowashambulia kwa sababu tu sio waislam! Kwanini uishikie kidedea story ya sivalon kana kwamba ni msahafu ambao hautakiwi kupingwa bila hata kumsikiliza Nyerere mwenyewe anayetuhumiwa? Wacha upuuzi na majigambo yasiyo nafaida yoyote katika jamii ya wapenda amani.

Wewe unasema ni ATHEIST lakini akitajwa Sivalon J. unakasirika na povu linakutoka, utaki kabisa Sivalon watu wamtaje. Vumulia au kakipige marufuku kitabu chake cha.

Kanisa Katoliki na Siasa ya Tanzania Bara 1953 Hadi 1985.

 

[Mzee Mwanakijiji]

I am a gifted story teller just like Irving Wallace.
Seriously I am not jocking.

Try me out.

Now, that part is true...!!! he was a master of fiction... but when he wrote non-fiction he was good at it as well. While he was a true story teller, kwenye historia alikuwa mkweli akiufuata ushahidi wa historia popote ulipompeleka. Kitu ambacho wewe kimekushinda.

 

[Mzee Mwanakijiji]

The Church therefore declared Islam as its enemy in the country and plotted to thwart its progress.[2]

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[1] John C. Sivalon, Kanisa Katoliki na Siasa ya Tanzania Bara 1953 Hadi 1985, (Ndanda, 1992).
[2]Ibid. p 37.

Umerudia huu mstari kwa muda mrefu; Kanisa lilitangaza vipi kuwa Uislamu ni adui na unahitaji kupunguzwa nguvu za maendeleo yake? Ni nani katika kanisa la Tanzania aliyetangaza hivyo, lini na wapi?