Ukweli Mchungu kuhusu Kudanga

Ukweli Mchungu kuhusu Kudanga

Kobello said:
My answer is YES.
I know so, because randomity is just an idea, it doesn't exist.
Annihilation itself is a particle antiparticle process, how can it be random and at the same time be annihilated?
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How do you know randomness is just an idea, it does not exist?

I want proof, not a mere opinion or empty philosophizing.
 
Kiranga said:
I do not like absolutes za "is he a scam or not".

I am not a fan of "all or nothing at all" constructs.

There are always nuances, some kind of spectrum, context.

So, depending on all of that, Kiyosaki may be very right for you. Or very wrong for you.

Kwa mfano, kwa ntu ambaye anaamini katika bahatibahati tu, kuvuta nyota, uchawi, kumuomba Mungu, Kiyosaki anaweza kuwa na the right message ya kumfanya atoke huko na kujipa agency zaidi, kujitegemea zaidi, kujiongeza zaidi.

Lakini pia, kwa watu wengine ambao tumeishi sehemu nyingi na kuona watu wengi waliofanya kila kitu alichoshauri Kiyosaki halafu wakaja kuangushwa na matatizo systemic katika jamii, tunaweza pia kuona Kiyosaki anavyo oversell mafundisho yake.

Ndipo hapo habari za kumwambia mtu "don't save your money, invest it" wakati mtu hata hela za savings hana, anaishi kwenye madeni yanayozidi kila siku, inakuwa kama ile hadithi ya Marie Antoinette anavyoripotiwa kuambiwa watu wako wa Ufaransa wana njaa sana, hawana hata mkate, akasema hawana mkate, waambie wale keki.

Yani kikwetu mtu anakwambia hana hata ugali halafu unamwambia kama hana ugali basi ale biriani.
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Ok, turudi kwenye theory yake namba 1, ambayo ndio huwa anaipa uzito zaidi,

DONT WORK FOR MONEY.

Je, inatekelezeka?
 
Kobello said:
It's nowhere in the physical world.
Its an assumption that will lead you to a fact.
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What is nowhere in the physical world?

Randomness or the proof that there is no randomness?

Why are you limiting yourself to the physical world?

How do you know the limits of the physical world if your entire experience is so minuscule compared to the physical universe?
 
Mjanja M1 said:
Mabinti wengi wanadanga ili kupata mitaji ya biashara lakini mwisho wa siku wakipata mitaji wanashindwa kuendesha biashara na wanajikuta wakifirisika na kurudia tena kudanga/Kuuza Mbususu.
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Hawaachi wanapata Arosto kama wavuta bangi na Sigara, Inakuaga Laana Sijui
 
Mjuni Lwambo said:
Ok, turudi kwenye theory yake namba 1, ambayo ndio huwa anaipa uzito zaidi,

DONT WORK FOR MONEY.

Je, inatekelezeka?
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The concept, to develop it fully, I believe, is, don't work for money, let money work for you. Through investment.

To do that, you first need money.

To get that money, for most people, you will first need to work.

So, you will need to work for money at some point.

Maybe he meant "don't keep working for money, graduate to a higher level where money works for you". Through investment.

Easier said than done. A lot of people live paycheck to paycheck, have a lot of debt, can't aford to save enough to invest. Some people can't afford food and have to rely on charity, food pantries etc. How do youbtell such a person to notwork for money?

Some people would love to work for money. They just can't even find work. How do you tell such people to not work for money?

But let's assume you are lucky, you inheried money.

Even then, putting your money in the right investments, following news, making sure nobody is stealing your money, strategizing generational wealth, keeping up with the bisiness cycles and mitigating risks accordingly etc is work, hard intellectual work.

So, chanves are, for the most part, to be successful, you will end up working for your money anyway.

You may not work a 9-5 job, but you will end up working with lawyers, accountants, financial advisors etc anyway.
 
Kiranga said:
What is nowhere in the physical world?

Randomness or the proof that there is no randomness?

Why are you limiting yourself to the physical world?

How do you know the limits of the physical world if your entire experience is so minuscule compared to the physical universe?
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Both randomness and its proof.
I'm not spiritual.
Exactly, my experience has been and will (just based on time) be negligibly little to attribute anything on randomity.
 
Kobello said:
Both randomness and its proof.
I'm not spiritual.
Exactly, my experience has been and will (just based on time) be negligibly little to attribute anything on randomity.
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How do you know randomness is nowhere in the physical world if you are not even able to experience and comprehend the physical quantum world?
 
Kiranga said:
The concept, to develop it fully, I believe, is, don't work for money, let money work for you. Through investment.

To do that, you first need money.

To get that money, for most people, you will first need to work.

So, you will need to work for money at some point.

Maybe he meant "don't keep working for money, graduate to a higher level where money works for you". Through investment.

Easier said than done. A lot of people live paycheck to paycheck, have a lot of debt, can't aford to save enough to invest. Some people can't afford food and have to rely on charity, food pantries etc. How do youbtell such a person to notwork for money?

Some people would love to work for money. They just can't even find work. How do you tell such people to not work for money?

But let's assume you are lucky, you inheried money.

Even then, putting your money in the right investments, following news, making sure nobody is stealing your money, strategizing generational wealth, keeping up with the bisiness cycles and mitigating risks accordingly etc is work, hard intellectual work.

So, chanves are, for the most part, to be successful, you will end up working for your money anyway.

You may not work a 9-5 job, but you will end up working with lawyers, accountants, financial advisors etc anyway.
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Thank you for your opinions, Kiranga, and most importantly, your time.
 
Kiranga said:
How do you know randomness is nowhere in the physical world if you are not even able to experience and comprehend the physical quantum world?
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What if I'm able to comprehend and experience the physical quantum world. Where will I find randomness?
 
mongoli said:
Hata mke unamtumia kila siku anazaa watoto mpaka 6 ila bado kitu ukiwega wazungu wanakuja mbio ko hii aina ya bidhaa bado inakamata namba 1 kwenye soko kwa kuwa na kiwango cha 100%ya faida
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Bidhaa😀
Duh
 
Kobello said:
What if I'm able to comprehend and experience the physical quantum world. Where will I find randomness?
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But you don't, and you have concluded that randomness does not exist anywhere in the physical world, even at the quantum level, something you have no experience of.
 
Kiranga said:
Inawezekana pia kwa wengi wao sababu zilizowafanya washindwe kutafuta mtaji bila kudanga ndiyo hizo hizo zinawafanya washindwe kufanya biashara baada ya kupata mtaji kwa kudanga.

Mara nyingi sababu ni uwezo mdogo kifikra.

Mtaji mdogo ni sababu nyingine.

Kukosa network hakuwezi kudogoshwa.

Ma mara nyingine mafanikio ninsuala la bahati. Hatuwezi kuacha kuzungumzia bahati.

Mtu aliyejipanga vizuri kila kitu anaweza kutofanikiwa kwa kukisa bahati ya kuwa at the right time, at the right place, halafu, mtu ambaye hajajipanga vyovyote akaipata bahati hiyo.
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Bahati ni nini mkuu?
 
Kiranga said:
But you don't, and you have concluded that randomness does not exist anywhere in the physical world, even at the quantum level, something you have no experience of.
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Yes, of course.
Am I missing the concept?
It's like you believing that Jahannam exist, or Gabriel lives in the sky and delivers messages to the chosen few.
Oh, here's the good one ... a talking snake.
I haven't been to the "skies", it's probably trillions of light years away. I'm limited by time and space, so I chose not to believe in it.
Its non-existent to me, can't prove it. But I can fly to Kilimanjaro and back for 100$.
 
Kobello said:
Yes, of course.
Am I missing the concept?
It's like you believing that Jahannam exist, or Gabriel lives in the sky and delivers messages to the chosen few.
Oh, here's the good one ... a talking snake.
I haven't been to the "skies", it's probably trillions of light years away. I'm limited by time and space, so I chose not to believe in it.
Its non-existent to me, can't prove it. But I can fly to Kilimanjaro and back for 100$.
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But there are logical concepts, and proofs to show that Jehannam does not exist, Gabriel does not live in the sky etc.

But you have no logical concept or proof that randomness does not exist.

I asked you to give this proof, you failed.
 
Kiranga said:
But there are logical concepts, and proofs to show that Jehannam does not exist, Gabriel does not live in the sky etc.

But you have no logical concept or proof that randomness does not exist.

I asked you to give this proof, you failed.
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I actually asked you to give me the logical proof of randomness and you couldn't.
Now, you are saying luck and accident are cousins.
For real?
I know accidents don't just happen, they are caused.
They are cause-effect phenomena, a function.
 
Kobello said:
I actually asked you to give me the logical proof of randomness and you couldn't.
Now, you are saying luck and accident are cousins.
For real?
I know accidents don't just happen, they are caused.
They are cause-effect phenomena, a function.
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I know I have never used the word accident in this thread. If I have, please quote that in my very own words.

Perhaps you are confusing me with someone else.
 
Asili mia ngapi ya biashara ndogo ndogo zinafeli ? Je chanzo ni mtaji haramu?
 
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