livefire whatever happend to kuppet, is it a dead animal?
The last i heard about it i think it was being criticized for being a pro-govt outfit infact cleverly engineered to weaken KNUT. i believe it doesn't have the balls to face off with KNUT though. When the strike come shooting; they will effectively be forced to support KNUT else it looses its members; to me its a dead movement.
hehehe 😛ray2::coffee::coffee:
last time I saw KNUT and kuppet competing for the spoils in the name of memberships. Too bad that still the teachers have not been proposed a framework for negotiations like the MPs who can fight for their increased perks while encapsulated within the language of law. Teachers however still prefer the old street running battles to make their point. haven't Industrial courts have been reformed Couldn't the CJ's portfolio be tasked with more other than just determining fraudulent election petitions.
such scenes of paralyzing normal school time is becoming common, who burden is this
The extent to which the lower house is exhibiting gluttony is surely saddening....i mean they have an ambiguous way of raising there own salary by simply saying *NEIGH* or *AYE*.
Someone once told me judges apply the principle of common sense or natural justice in this case social justice to make binding rulings, cant they fix these mongrels for us? That's the epitome of judiciary reform if it ever happens. How do they (MPS) threaten to disband a constitutional body? This guys can take Kenyans to hell just to have there perks.
Talking about industrial courts, they are the most single handedly daft institution i know of; no mockery to them but all cases handed to them since time in memorial have always been in favour of govt, be it teachers, doctors, civil servants......its as a result to this that teachers resort to marching to the streets, nurses, doctors, lecturers in tow. Let it be clear that all this quarters react this way whenever parliament approves there own pay hike. A pattern known to govt. Why cant the industrial courts or High Court intervene at the behest of govt/kenyans to overturn this payments. U would also love for parliamentarians to demonstrate.lol.
Hii judiciary is cold n hot; they can never unilaterally approve a pay hike for the common mwananchi...since time in immemorial they've been at it, siding with govt. To circumvent this hurdle, a 21 day notice of a pending strike is usually given after formal engagements fail .....i might miss one or two things on statutory law buh gez thats the idea of what happens or a lawyer can clarify. My friend tells me hii ni korti bandia, hehe
If any lost time is accrued by the govt, let it show leadership by instilling discipline on parliamentarians (REM MANIFESTO?)....even better our budget has a big hole, with the debt ratio to relative GDP levels being too high BEYOND ACCEPTABLE LEVELS. A dim economic outlook for us with the ever increasing wage bill.
This time the mps are taking it too far by putting the cart before the horse. i suggest there be a determinant that evaluates their productivity to approve increase in perks by virtue of there perfomance at the grassroot level. The excuse I heard is there are new first-term mps that lived in areas like mathare A$ and other tin-sheds that need to be 'comfortable' inorder to serve. need loans to acquire SUVs/car allowance (that seems reasonable), house allowance, entertainment allowance, health allowance, fuel allowance, hardship allowance and all these allowance cr@p* which good thing is that by controlling both houses govt can pospone the propasal to increase perks
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in Tanzania it is the opposite, an MP is judged by how productive they are and not how much money and how hard they campigned to get into office. TZ mps earn even less but they serve their constituents in sevices like provision of availabilty of clean water, and other services. me thinks kenyan Mp know that the mwananchi has no system/representation to require demands not forthcoming.
...in mature democracies the constitution defines the right to assemble. popularize workshops to demand more from these MPs. Otherwise a petition filed by the common man to the high court might hit a brick-wall. can't raise petition fees running to plus 1 million ksh lol!
.......shouldn't it also be the prerogative of every kenyan to safeguard and uphold the constitution on issues that touch them rather than be dragged to defend power-struggles orchestrated by ethnic kingpins.
It is a good thing that retired president kibaki revamped an economy that had nearly collapsed and put it on the right path but also left too many holes uncovered, excessive graft unchecked, lofy govt spending are some of the challenges that if unchecked will ensure vision2030 fails. plus those opportunists at treasury need to be watched carefully...
Hivi kua mbunge Kenya ni ugonjwa au vipi? Yaani wale jamaa walioondoka walipenda sana hii tabia. Sasa kuna hawa wapya ambao inaonekana hoja yao kubwa ni kujiongeza mishahara hata kabla hawajaanza kazi ya kuwatetea watu wao. Sina usemi mazee!
Deputy President William Ruto talks with Emgwen MP Alex Kosgey during an induction workshop for lawmakers at the Safari Park Hotel in Nairobi on Friday. The MPs want their salaries increased to the level enjoyed by lawmakers in the last Parliament. By CAROLINE WAFULA cwafula@ke.nationmedia.com
Posted Friday, April 12 2013 at 23:30
In Summary
· Deputy President warns the move may be unpopular and could lead to strikes
· Legislators threaten to paralyse government operations if their demands are not met
Members of Parliament have started a new push to increase their salaries to the level enjoyed by lawmakers in the last Parliament.
The MPs signed a resolution asking the Parliamentary Service Commission (PSC) to restore the pay of the 10th Parliament and what was set by the Salaries and Remuneration Commission annulled.
The MPs have threatened to frustrate operations of government and its institutions if their request is ignored, terming the current salary structure an insult to the institution of Parliament.
They have piled up pressure on the PSC, which caters for their welfare, to push for their demand. They want the commission to get them a salary that "befits the status of an MP."
Meeting in Nairobi on Thursday, the MPs also want to be exempted from the Salaries and Remuneration Commission's pay structure.
Under the new salary structure, governors will earn Sh640,681 while senators and MPs will earn Sh532,500.
The MPs have signed a resolution that PSC will use to negotiate better terms with the Salaries and Remuneration Commission.
Among their options is that PSC negotiates to reinstate their perks to Sh851,000 which was paid to MPs in the last Parliament.
But speaking at a Jubilee parliamentary group meeting on Friday, Deputy President William Ruto advised lawmakers to be cautious on their agitation for salary increment.
Insiders at the meeting at Safari Park said Mr Ruto advised that the lobbying for pay was not good for the country given the state of the economy currently, adding that other workers were likely to follow suit.
However, Tiaty MP Asman Kamama said the current payslip of an MP was a shame. "We cannot even talk about it," he said.
The matter elicited emotions at a closed door meeting that the legislators had at Safari Park meeting on Thursday evening.
After a day-long induction at the hotel, journalists and other "strangers" were ejected from the room where they were meeting.
Speaking to Saturday Nation, most of the MPs said the current salary was too little for an MP and threatened to do everything possible to overturn the decision by the Serem-led salaries team which sets the salaries of public servants, including crippling operations of government.
Sources in the meeting said the plan was to have the definition of a State officer amended to exclude them. The MPs are expected to hold a kamukunji (an informal meeting) with the Speaker on Thursday.
MPs sign secret petition for Sh1m tax-free salary and big allowances - Politics - nation.co.ke
Janet Kibet: Greedy leaders, hata kazi hamjaanza, mnataka pesa.. If their demand is met, every working Kenyan should tool down and demand the same pay. Also they should clock in and be paid by work that has been done not status, MPs are servants elected to represent Kenyans not to enrich themselves. Kenyans watch out and impeach them if what they are saying or demanding is met. Hati tax free ndio nani alipe tax? We wacha hiyo in kitendwali
Immanuel Mapesa: What the hell is this?
Richter Karuri: Tell them to resign and go home. Most Kenyans ern less than a dollar a day. Les than 80bob. Hmn! same hyenas.
Abdallah Talib: This is a big shame we cannot allow this as Kenyans...we need to stop this greedy MPs.....what is the way out?????? we need to send them home even before they get there first salary. We need a peoples revolution like the arab world one....
richy: We don't need them we r ready to elect in new mps,they don't ave to take us for a ransom!
Nick Mwenda: This country is heading to the worse. I think we are all too selfish. One page of the daily describes how pregnant mothers are dieing of easily treatable conditionis every day due to shortage of doctors and equipment, the next page is full of MPs spending their first days in parliament planning on how to twist the law to increase their perks. Do we even need these heartless people? Shame!
MuthigiWaithekai9: If any MP feels that the salary is too little, they should resign and go back to the work they were doing before they got elected. There are millions of Kenyans who would gratefully accept a Kshs. 532,500 monthly salary.When they say a half-million shilling salary is a shame, what message are they sending to the teachers, nurses and doctors who earn just a fraction of that and yet have to put in real work?
Under the new salary structure, governors will earn Sh 640,681 while senators and MPs will earn Sh 532,500.
The MPs have signed a resolution that PSC will use to negotiate better terms with the Salaries and Remuneration Commission.
Among their options is that PSC negotiates to reinstate their perks to Sh 851,000 which was paid to MPs in the last Parliament.
MPs sign secret petition for Sh1m tax-free salary and big allowances
Hivi kua mbunge Kenya ni ugonjwa au vipi? Yaani wale jamaa walioondoka walipenda sana hii tabia. Sasa kuna hawa wapya ambao inaonekana hoja yao kubwa ni kujiongeza mishahara hata kabla hawajaanza kazi ya kuwatetea watu wao. Sina usemi mazee!
MPs sign secret petition for Sh1m tax-free salary and big allowances
In Summary
· Deputy President warns the move may be unpopular and could lead to strikes
· Legislators threaten to paralyse government operations if their demands are not met
Members of Parliament have started a new push to increase their salaries to the level enjoyed by lawmakers in the last Parliament.
The MPs signed a resolution asking the Parliamentary Service Commission (PSC) to restore the pay of the 10th Parliament and what was set by the Salaries and Remuneration Commission annulled.
The MPs have threatened to frustrate operations of government and its institutions if their request is ignored, terming the current salary structure an insult to the institution of Parliament.
They have piled up pressure on the PSC, which caters for their welfare, to push for their demand. They want the commission to get them a salary that "befits the status of an MP."
Meeting in Nairobi on Thursday, the MPs also want to be exempted from the Salaries and Remuneration Commission's pay structure.
Under the new salary structure, governors will earn Sh640,681 while senators and MPs will earn Sh532,500.
The MPs have signed a resolution that PSC will use to negotiate better terms with the Salaries and Remuneration Commission.
Among their options is that PSC negotiates to reinstate their perks to Sh851,000 which was paid to MPs in the last Parliament.
But speaking at a Jubilee parliamentary group meeting on Friday, Deputy President William Ruto advised lawmakers to be cautious on their agitation for salary increment.
Insiders at the meeting at Safari Park said Mr Ruto advised that the lobbying for pay was not good for the country given the state of the economy currently, adding that other workers were likely to follow suit.
MPs sign secret petition for Sh1m tax-free salary and big allowances - Politics - nation.co.ke
Janet Kibet: Greedy leaders, hata kazi hamjaanza, mnataka pesa.. If their demand is met, every working Kenyan should tool down and demand the same pay. Also they should clock in and be paid by work that has been done not status, MPs are servants elected to represent Kenyans not to enrich themselves. Kenyans watch out and impeach them if what they are saying or demanding is met. Hati tax free ndio nani alipe tax? We wacha hiyo in kitendwali
Immanuel Mapesa: What the hell is this?
Richter Karuri: Tell them to resign and go home. Most Kenyans ern less than a dollar a day. Les than 80bob. Hmn! same hyenas.
Abdallah Talib: This is a big shame we cannot allow this as Kenyans...we need to stop this greedy MPs.....what is the way out?????? we need to send them home even before they get there first salary. We need a peoples revolution like the arab world one....
richy: We don't need them we r ready to elect in new mps,they don't ave to take us for a ransom!
Nick Mwenda: This country is heading to the worse. I think we are all too selfish. One page of the daily describes how pregnant mothers are dieing of easily treatable conditionis every day due to shortage of doctors and equipment, the next page is full of MPs spending their first days in parliament planning on how to twist the law to increase their perks. Do we even need these heartless people? Shame!
MuthigiWaithekai9: If any MP feels that the salary is too little, they should resign and go back to the work they were doing before they got elected. There are millions of Kenyans who would gratefully accept a Kshs. 532,500 monthly salary.When they say a half-million shilling salary is a shame, what message are they sending to the teachers, nurses and doctors who earn just a fraction of that and yet have to put in real work?