Waganda watoa sababu zao kwanini watakomaa na SGR ya Kenya na sio ya Tanzania

Waganda watoa sababu zao kwanini watakomaa na SGR ya Kenya na sio ya Tanzania

Kwikwikwikwikwikwi. Hivi unataka kulinganisha TZ na Kenya siyo?
1. Museveni: Kasoma na kujifunza jeshi Tanzania. Alikuwa chini ya JWTZ wakati wa ukombozi wa Mozambique.

Museveni attended Kyamate Elementary School, Mbarara High School, and Ntare School. In 1967, he went to the University of Dar es Salaam in Tanzania. There, he studied economics and political science and became a Marxist, involving himself in radical pan-Africanpolitics. While at university, he formed the University Students' African Revolutionary Front activist group and led a student delegation to FRELIMO territory in Portuguese Mozambique, where he received guerrilla training. Studying under the leftist Walter Rodney, among others, Museveni wrote a university thesis on the applicability of Frantz Fanon's ideas on revolutionary violence to post-colonial Africa.

2. Joseph Kabila: Huyu amekulia Tanzania na kusoma Tanzania, pia hata jeshi amejifuniza Tanzania

Early life and education[edit]
Joseph Kabila Kabange and his twin sister Jaynet Kabila were born on 4 June 1971. According to official accounts, the twins were born at Hewabora, a small village in the Fizi territory of the South Kivu province, in eastern Congo. Rumors have abounded that Kabila was actually born in Tanzania, which would make him a citizen of that country.[4] He is the son of long time rebel, former AFDL leader and president of the Congo Laurent-Désiré Kabila and Sifa Mahanya.

Kabila's childhood coincided with the low point of his father's political and military career. He was raised in relative remoteness, with few records of his early days. Kabila attended a primary school organized by his father's rebel forces, before moving to Tanzania where he completed primary and secondary school. Due to his father's status as an enemy of Zairean strongman Mobutu Sese Seko, Kabila posed as a Tanzanian in his school years to avoid detection by Zairean intelligence agents.[4]

Guerrilla and army years[edit]
Following high school, Joseph Kabila followed a military curriculum in Tanzania, then at Makerere University in Uganda.[4] In October 1996, Laurent-Désiré Kabila launched the campaign in Zaire to oust the Mobutu regime with his newly formed army, the Alliance of Democratic Forces for the Liberation of Congo-Zaire (AFDL). Joseph Kabila became the commander of an AFDL unit that included "kadogos" (child soldiers) and likely played a key role in major battles on the road to Kinshasa, but his exact whereabouts during the war have been difficult to establish.[4] Joseph Kabila appears to have been present at the liberation of Kisangani where media reports identified him as commander of the rebel force that took the city after four days of intense fighting.[5]

Following the AFDL's victory, and Laurent-Désiré Kabila's rise to the presidency, Joseph Kabila went on to get further training at the PLA National Defense University, in Beijing, China.

When he returned from China, Kabila was awarded the rank of Major-General, and appointed Deputy Chief of Staff of the Armed Forces of the Democratic Republic of the Congo, in 1998. He was later, in 2000, appointed Chief of Staff of the Land Forces, a position he held until the elder President Kabila's assassination in January 2001.[6] As chief of staff, he was one of the main military leaders in charge of Government troops during the time of the Second Congo War (1998–2003).[4]


3. Paul Kagame: Kafundiswha na Tanzania kuwa Spy

In 1978, Fred Rwigyema returned to western Uganda and reunited with Kagame.[17] During his absence, Rwigyema had joined the rebel army of Yoweri Museveni. Based in Tanzania, it aimed to overthrow the Ugandan government of Idi Amin.[17] Rwigyema returned to Tanzania and fought in the 1979 war during which Museveni's army, allied with the Tanzanian army and other Ugandan exiles, defeated Amin.[18] After Amin's defeat, inspired by Rwigyema, Kagame and other Rwandan refugees pledged allegiance to Museveni, a cabinet member in the transition government.[19] Kagame travelled to Tanzania where the Tanzanian government, which sought to protect the new Ugandan regime, trained him as a spy.[20]


Nimekueleza mambo machache tu kisha uanze kuheshimu Tanzania. Ninaweza kuku Historia ya ma raisi wengi tu wapo chini ya TZ.
Hi story yote na sgr haziingiani...
 
Hi story yote na sgr haziingiani...
Nakupa dozi kidogo upate kuelewa. Ndio maana hata bomba la mafuta tuliwanyang'anya ndio uelewe hivyo TZ is everything hiwezi kuikwepa. Politically and Economically.

President of Malawi:

Mutharika received his law degree from the University of London in 1965.[5] He then received his LL.M and JSD degrees from Yale University[6] in 1966 and 1969 respectively.[6] As a professor, he has taught at University of Dar es Salaam (Tanzania), Haile Selassie University (Ethiopia), Rutgers University (USA), the United Nations Institute for Training and Research Program for Foreign Service Officers from Africa and Asia at Makerere University (Uganda), and for 39 years[7] at Washington University (USA), and has served as an Academic Visitor at the London School of Economics (UK).[1] He also served as advisor to the American Bar Association's Rule of Law initiative for Africa.[6] He was also the chair of the Institute for Democracy and Policy Studies in Malawi.
 
HOW MANY KILOMETERSRS TOWARDS TANZANIA???? ARE YOU SERIOUS (MWANZA TO PORT BELL!!)
There's no railway linking Mwanza to Port bell. There's no way you can have 1724 km across Uganda so why would you even expect Uganda to clear any land towards Tanzania?
Geez! These people are so freaking annoying!!!!
 
Psht! That pipeline was ours, and we may still wage another battle to get it back. We came up with the idea, u purloined it.
Bruh, this is too childish. We've sparred on different issues before, so please do yourself some justice and argue like a man who has been taught in a theater before.
 
Kumbe wanaoitakia mabaya nchi wako wengi.Wazalendo tumebaki mimi na Magufuli tu.Nyie majungu sisi kazi,na matokeo yanaonekana.
 
What the hell are you even saying?all land acquisition that the sgr uganda team have done is towards the malaba border,everything they have done so far points out to connecting to the kenyan line and not Tanzanian,bring facts that uganda has abandoned the kenyan line before callin people annoying,nkt
 
What the hell are you even saying?all land acquisition that the sgr uganda team have done is towards the malaba border,everything they have done so far points out to connecting to the kenyan line and not Tanzanian,bring facts that uganda has abandoned the kenyan line before callin people annoying,nkt
Mbona povu dogo!? Umekula lakini?
 
What the hell are you even saying?all land acquisition that the sgr uganda team have done is towards the malaba border,everything they have done so far points out to connecting to the kenyan line and not Tanzanian,bring facts that uganda has abandoned the kenyan line before callin people annoying,nkt
UGANDA, EVEN IF IT WAS TO USE TANZANIA SGR, WOULDN'T NEED TO CLEAR ANY LAND TOWARDS TANZANIA. wE HAVE A MARITIME BORDER WITH THEM. SO YOU WANTED THEM TO CLEAR LAKE VICTORIA?
Plus, Tanzania isn't building its SGR to be used by Ugandan Cargo. The Mwanza Railway is needed by Lake Zone businessmen and other Tanzanians too. So, it's feasible af!!
 
UGANDA, EVEN IF IT WAS TO USE TANZANIA SGR, WOULDN'T NEED TO CLEAR ANY LAND TOWARDS TANZANIA. wE HAVE A MARITIME BORDER WITH THEM. SO YOU WANTED THEM TO CLEAR LAKE VICTORIA?
Plus, Tanzania isn't building its SGR to be used by Ugandan Cargo. The Mwanza Railway is needed by Lake Zone businessmen and other Tanzanians too. So, it's feasible af!!
Well your fellow countrymen seems to think otherwise,tho the question is at the other side of the lake from the maritime border is it to kampala? If not that would mean if they were to build the sgr to tz, they would hav acquire land to the maritime border right?
 
Well your fellow countrymen seems to think otherwise,tho the question is at the other side of the lake from the maritime border is it to kampala? If not that would mean if they were to build the sgr to tz, they would hav acquire land to the maritime border right?
He he he!
Are you pregnant or sumthin?
 
Well MK254

Naona imejitahidi kweli kweli! Nami niseme kidogo!

Niungane na wenzangu kukukumbusha kuwa sgr yetu kwa kuanzia hatupangi kuteka soko la Uganda! Na kupeleka Reli kanda ya ziwa plani sio waganda, japo wakija kuitumia itaendelea kutufaidisha zaidi maana insecurity ya hapo kwenu nayo haiaminiki!

Kwetu soko letu la ndani la kanda ya ziwa ni muhimu sana! Imagine tuna Mikoa sita na wilaya zaidi ya 40 kwa kanda ya ziwa pekee! Ukubwa huu tu unakaribia kulingana na nchi nzima ya Uganda, Hivyo mizigo ya kwenda uganda ni sawa na mizigo inayoenda kanda ya ziwa!


Lakini pia Tanzania tunapakana na nchi nyingi ambazo ni land locked, sio lazima kuzichukua zote, Zambia tunapeleka mafuta na mizigo kwa ile reli ya zamani, burundi rwanda na DRC hizo ni zetu!


Ila this is business, kosa moja tu and ur market id gone!
 
Waganda wanajua Wabongo maneno mengi kuliko vitendo, wakati wa-co.ke wako mchakamchaka, wa-co.tz wanatambaa, tangu mikataba ya SGR na bomba la mafuta isainiwe watu hawaoni hata mitambo ya kazi ikipitishwa barabarani, yaani hata dalili hakuna, bandari Bagamoyo nini kinaendelea! Sasa nasikia upanuzi bandari DSM, kuna barabara katikati ya jiji huu mwaka wa 25 au niseme tangu uhuru bado ziko hivyohivyo za udongo, nenda Kariakoo, Gerezani, Temeke ndio kabisaa utafikiri kule Kiomboi au Mbinga.
 
Waganda wanajua Wabongo maneno mengi kuliko vitendo, wakati wa-co.ke wako mchakamchaka, wa-co.tz wanatambaa, tangu mikataba ya SGR na bomba la mafuta isainiwe watu hawaoni hata mitambo ya kazi ikipitishwa barabarani, yaani hata dalili hakuna, bandari Bagamoyo nini kinaendelea! Sasa nasikia upanuzi bandari DSM, kuna barabara katikati ya jiji huu mwaka wa 25 au niseme tangu uhuru bado ziko hivyohivyo za udongo, nenda Kariakoo, Gerezani, Temeke ndio kabisaa utafikiri kule Kiomboi au Mbinga.
Ukweli inaumiza wenzako
 
Waganda wametoa sababu zao kwa nini imewalazimu kuegemea upande wa SGR ya Kenya zaidi ya ile ya Tanzania inayotegemewa kujengwa.
Naomba hii mada tuijadili kitaalam kwa kudadavua taarifa neno kwa neno.

Urefu
Kenya - 1,250KM
Tanzania - 1548KM (1228Km kwenye ardhi na 320km kwenye maji)

Uwezo wa mizigo
Kenya - kontena 8640 kwa siku maana ina uwezo wa treni 40 kwa siku kila moja ikiburuza kontena 216
Tanzania - kontena 216 kwa siku kwa ajili ya mapungufu na changamoto nyingi kuanzia bandarini na kwenye ziwa Victoria

Muda wa usafiri
Kenya - masaa 24
Tanzania - siku tatu, masaa 72 kama wakijaribu sana

Vikwazo vya aina ya mizigo
Kenya - Hamna kikwazo, vyote vinaruhusiwa
Tanzania - Kuna aina ya mizigo hairusiwi kupita kwenye ziwa

Upokezaji wa mizigo
Kenya - Hakuna changamoto, ni moja kwa moja
Tanzania - Bandari ya Mwanza na Port Bell, pale inabidi meli zitumike tano kuvusha mizigo ya treni moja


Uwezo wa bandari
Kenya - Bandari ya Mombasa ni kubwa mara tatu zaidi ya Dar, na bado kuna uboreshwaji unaoendelea
Tanzania - Bandari yao bado sana


Mizigo ya sasa
Kenya - Uganda inasafirisha mizigo tani milioni 10 kupitia Mombasa
Tanzania - Uganda inasafirisha tani milioni 0.5 kupitia Tanzania

Ukaribu wa soko kuu
Kenya - Ipo karibu ya Suez Canal
Tanzania - Ipo mbali sana na Suez Canal

Uhakika wa kukamilisha
Kenya - Imekanilisha Nairobi - Mombasa 472KM na tayari ujezi umeanza kwa eneo lililosalia ikiwemo upatikanaji wa pesa
Tanzania - Wametia saini mkataba wa ujenzi wa Dar - Morogoro 205KM, bado wanasaka hela kwa ajili sehemu iliyosalia, na pia bandari za Mwanza na Port Bell itabidi zijengwe upya na ununuzi wa meli aina mpya.


Hizo hapo ni baadhi ya sababu, kuna mengine mengi nikipata fursa nitaendelea kuyajaza humu.

Kwa wasomaji hodari great thinkers naomba muifuate ripoti kamili hapa https://sgr.go.ug/downloads/SGR_comparison_of_Kenya_Tanzania_Ethiopia_Uganda.pdf
Siyo lazima uganda wapitishe mizigo yao Tz. lakin ukiacha uganda nchi kama Rwanda, DRC, Zambia na Burundi
 
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