Uchaguzi 2020 Hatimaye Gwajima, Pengo na Makonda Wamekutana Pamoja kwa furaha kubwa

[jo mose]

Makonda amekuwa raia wa kawaida.

Anapambana na albadili zake

 

[Gerald .M Magembe]

... sasa nimethibitisha pasi na shaka Kardinali Pengo alikuwa na kadi since then! He wasn't neutral as he was supposed to be but, rather, was not only politically affiliated but also morally and materially supported the party. He is, as he was, actively supporting the party.

But in the Multi party democracies doesn’t mean that religious leaders leave their political biases, religious bigotries and political ideologies at the door. No – that’s not humanly possible when Bishops interpret the bible to polical relevance. Remember how Churches by using Bible supported apartheid in South Africa.

Bishops are inherently political beings. That’s why churches are political institutions. Chuches are an arm of the state, which is a political institution.

That’s why good Bishops often predict how certain Political leaders will address issues based on their ideology and political philosophy.

In the Christian Churches and organisations in our Country, like all other churches orgarnisations world over, Bishops harbour ideological biases.

 

[Gerald .M Magembe]

Kwani Pengo ni nani kwa sasa?
Huyo hana impact yoyote tena Jimbo kuu la Dar. Ni muumini wa kawaida tuu..

Acha kabisa kupotosha waumini, tena acha kabisa mambo ya dini kuyafanyia mizaha mizaha.

Yeye ni -- His Eminence Cardinal emeritus of Dar es salaam.
Na ni Cardinal - Priest of Nostra Signora La Sallete

Huyu kwa ki katoliki sio muumini wa kawaida. Usirukie madhehebu usiyo yajua au Huaamini huko, tafadhali.

 

[Abu Ubaidah Commando]

Wote hao siwaungi mkono hata kura yangu hawapati, halima mdee na gwajima. Huyo gwajima anawachukia sana waislamu, nitashangaa waislamu wakishiriki kuwapigia kura jimbo hilo.

 

[Kikiwo]

Safi tu maana ukisamehe na wewe utasamehewa pia.

 

[Idimi]

Kanisa Moja Takatifu Katoliki La Mitume la Kimisionari linaupa kipaumbele Msamaha. Msamaha hujenga Upendo.

Hakika. Sasa sijajua hapo nani kaenda kumsamehe mwingine. Ni Makonda anamsamehe Gwajima ama Gwajima anamsamehe Makonda? Nauliza kwa sababu Kardinali Pengo alishamsaheme kitambo sana Gwajima alipomtusi

 

[mandolo]

Waswahili tuna msemo usemao kuwa hakuna mwanadamu anaye ijua kesho yake.

Yale maneno ya kejeli yaliyosemwa na GWAJIMA dhidi ya Kardinari Pengo leo hii yamemtesa hadi kufikia hatua ya kwenda kumpigia magoti.

Hakika Gwajima atajuta sana kujiingiza kwenye mambo ya siasa. View attachment 1577091

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Anamsumbua bure tu Kardinal Pengo. Kama anafikiri kwenda kumuona ndo atapata jimbo asahau. Atuombe msamaha hadharani wakatoliki tuliochukizwa na kitendo cha kumdhalilisha kiongozi wetu wa hadhi ya juu namna hiyo na tutakacho msaidia ni msamaha tu lakini sio Ubunge.

 

[Mmawia]

Anamsumbua bure tu Kardinal Pengo. Kama anafikiri kwenda kumuona ndo atapata jimbo asahau. Atuombe msamaha hadharani wakatoliki tuliochukizwa na kitendo cha kumdhalilisha kiongozi wetu wa hadhi ya juu namna hiyo na tutakacho msaidia ni msamaha tu lakini sio Ubunge.

Amina kiongozi

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[FUSO]

Hawa jamaa wawili ni majanga kwa taifa letu..

Kawe kataeni utapeli unaotaka kuja kwenu.

 

[Mangungo II]

... sasa nimethibitisha pasi na shaka Kardinali Pengo alikuwa na kadi since then! He wasn't neutral as he was supposed to be but, rather, was not only politically affiliated but also morally and materially supported the party. He is, as he was, actively supporting the party.

Hana Cha kupoteza Tena huyo mzee

Anangoja tu astaafu huo ukadinali alio nao ambao hawawezi mvua [emoji2]

Sisi wakatoliki Wala hatuna habari nae tuko na Ruwaichi

 

[Bams]

Unafiki mkubwa. Tapeli kwa kupitia dini na muuaji wameungana.

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[Ndebile]

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[Tz mbongo]

Duh mtu anakula matapishi yake shame

Kama wale wengine walivyokula matapishi yao kwa Lowassa 2015.

 

[Ndebile]

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[Tz mbongo]

Unafiki mkubwa. Tapeli kwa kuoitia dini na muuaji wameungana.

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Sasa bila unafki mambo hayawezi kwenda,unafikiri chadema wangeweza vp kumnadi Lowassa ile 2015 bila unafki?

 

[Ndebile]

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[Prince Kunta]

Pengo amemjibu Gwajima amekula maharage ya wapi?

 

[kichomiz]

Hapa Bashite, pale Gwajima....balaa tupu.
Huyu askofu ndiye yule aliyeulizwa amekula maharagwe ya wapi au?

Movie kali sana.

Ahahahaaaaa "nasema mpuuzi yule,kichaa yule,mjinga yuleee" kajamaa kana mdomo mchafu kama shimo la choo

 

[Kinyungu]

Gwajima na Makonda wanafanana sana kwenye ukosefu wa aibu

Wanawakilisha vyema tabia za wana ccm

 

[Mazindu Msambule]

Siasa ina dela na vitu vidogo vidog sana kwa ajili ya kubadiri mind sets za watu; as far as i know Gwajima hakua na ugomvi binafsi na Pengo (samahani sijaanza na vyeo vyao vya kidini hawa watu kwasababu zangu binafsi) walishana kwenye mambo ambayo mwanzoni walikua wamekubaliana kwenye vikao vyao vya dini, yaani Pendo alikua kakubaliana na viongozi wenzie wa RC then walikuja kukubaliana baadae kama Wakristo wote na Gwajima akiwepo, so Gwajima alimlalamikia Pengo kubadiri maamuzi ya pamoja; kwa mtazamo pia, GWajima alikua na ugomvi binafsi na RC wa Dar wa wakati huo, issue ilianzia kwenye ngada, baadae Gwajima akatwambia kwamba dogo anamuonea wivu yeye akidhani yeye atagombea ubunge, na pale ndio alipotwambia kwamba ubunge, uwazi na uraisi ni vyeo vidogo sana kwake, kazi aliyonayo ni kubwa kuliko hivyo (kitu ambacho hata mimi naamini hivyo ), sasa ndio sielewi ni kwanini leo tena kagombea vyeo vile vile alivyoviona kama vidogo (ndio sababu mojawapo ilionifanya nisianze na neno ASKOFU kwake) ANyway, waliosema siasa ni mchezo mchafu hawakukosea; sijui kanisani kwake anahubirije kwa sasa, sijui kwa kweli cause kalamba sana MATAPISHI; nitaendelea kumheshim KAKOBE though simfahamu kwa kumuona hivi ana kwa ana