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Hawa watu sasa wamekubali kuwa Corona imeisha?
Hawa watu sasa wamekubali kuwa Corona imeisha?
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Labda wewe mkuu mi sipo naye
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Hata kwingineko watu hufa kwa sababu za kijinga sana.
Mwezi huu wa 7, kuna mtoto wa mwaka 1 kauliwa kwa kupigwa risasi huko Brooklyn, NY.
Mwingine wa miaka 3 kapigwa risasi huko Chicago. Akafa.
Secoriea Turner, mtoto wa miaka 8, alipigwa risasi na kufa huko Atlanta.
Mara nyingi tu Marekani, watu huuana kutokana na road rage. Mtu anakatiza mbele yako. Unakasirija na kumwonyesha kidole. Kifuatacho ni gunfight na kifo.
Naweza pia kugusia mass shootings. Mtu anaenda kwenye shule ya chekechea au kanisani na kuwa Mimi nia risasi watoto au waumini. Huo nao ujinga.
Naweza kusema pia wale suicide bombers nao hufanya ujinga.
Mtu anajilipua na mabomu kisa imani ya kupewa mabikira 70 huko mbinguni au sijui peponi.
Corona ingekuwa ni hatari kama tunavyoaminishwa, basi watu wangebadilika tu bila kupenda.
Lakini unapoambiwa na kuona kuwa survival rate iko kwenye high 90s huko, au unapoipata mtu wala huugui kivile, ni vigumu sana kuwafanya watu wabadilike.
Idadi kubwa sana ya watu wanapona. Na idadi kubwa pia wanayo na wala hawaugui.
Then what’s the big deal?
Ukweli kwamba huu ni ugonjwa mpya ambao haujajulikana vizuri tu unatosha kuwafanya watu wachukue tahadhari.
Ugonjwa mpya, sawa. Lakini si hatari kivile.
Nadhani Ebola ni hatari zaidi kuliko hii COVID.
COVID inapewa kiki sana kuliko inavyostahili.
Tanzania Mbona watu hawafi kama nzi na hakuna chochote cha maana kitahadhari kinachofanyika...
Weekend ilopita Zuchu, the new bongo fleva sensation alikuwa na tamasha lake.
Hakukuwa na cha social distancing wala baba yake barakoa.
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Huko Brooklyn angalau watu wanatumia haki zao za ku protest.
Afrika unakanyagwa, halafu ukilalamika unapigwa kwa kulalamika.
Mkuu wa Polisi anakwambia ukiandamana atakupiga kama mbwa koko.
Brooklyn mkuu wa polisi akisema hivyo, kabla ya wanaodai haki za binadamu hawajamuwashia moto, wadai haki za wanyama tu watakuwa washammaliza!
Ugonjwa kuua watu wengi unaowaambukiza, kama Ebola, hali hiyo ya "high mortality rate", ndiyo inayoweza kuufanya ugonjwa usiwe wa hatari sana, in a very counterintuitive way.
Kwa sababu gani?
Ugonjwa unaoua watu wengi, unaua hosts wake wengi, unapunguza uwezekano wa kusambaa zaidi.
Ugonjwa ambao unaua asilimia ndogo ya unaowaambukiza, kama Covid-19,unaweza kuwa mbaya zaidi kwa overall fatalities, kwa sababu, unaambukiza sana, kwa kuwa hauui hosts kiurahisi.
Sijaangalia hesabu za vifo vya Ebola vs vya Covid-19, lakini siwezi kushangaa ikiwa Covid-19 katika miezi hii michache tu tuliyoifuatilia, imeua watu wengi zaidi ya Ebola ilivyoua katika miaka yote hiyo tuliyoijua.
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Hata huo UKIMWI nao ni propaganda za wauza madawa tu.
Hakuna ugonjwa unaoitwa UKIMWI wala VVU katika hii dunia.
Hata hao wanaouza hayo madawa wanalijua hilo.
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Kwani koona imeisha mkuu?
Nyani Ngabu
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Na Waafrika tulivyo waoga, tunaufyata mkia! Unakumbuka yale maandamano ya UKUTA? 🤣
Hm! Hapana aisee. Ugonjwa ambao ukiupata na ambao unaua haraka, lazima utawafanya watu wabadilike, hata kama bila kupenda.
Maana unaua kweli na unaua haraka.
Usipobadili mienendo yako, unaondoka. Sidhani kama kuna mtu ataleta mchezo kwenye hilo.
Hata kama unaambukiza sana, madhali hauui kivile, basi hautakuwa ni ugonjwa hatari.
Watu kibao wana hiyo COVID na wala hata hawaumwi. Si ajabu hata mimi ninayo. Lakini mida hii ndo nimetoka gym. Piga sana bench press leo na triceps.
Chris Cuomo alikuwa nao na alikuwa poa tu mpaka anagombana na waendesha pikipiki huko kwenye matembezi yake.
Mayor wa Atlanta naye anao lakini yuko poa tu. Kila siku anazunguka huko kwenye liberal tv networks aki-pitch uteuzi wa vp running mate wa Biden.
Na ugonjwa wenyewe wala hauna tiba. Ukiupata unaambiwa jitenge.
Hata mwishowe watu wengi wakiambukizwa, an overwhelming majority watapona tu.
Jambo ambalo litaleta herd immunity na mwishowe kuja kuwa kama mafua ya kawaida na influenza.
Vifo vya COVID vina utata.
Unakuta mtu ana terminal illness. Akifa sasa hivi na tuseme labda alikuwa na vi traces vya COVID, basi kifo chake kinasajiliwa kuwa ni cha COVID.
Hata George Floyd walisema alikuwa nayo na si ajabu naye walikisajili kifo chake kama moja ya vifo vya COVID.
Watu kibao wanaokufa, wanakufa kwa comorbidities. Tayari afya zao zinakuwa zina migogoro hata kabla ya kupata COVID.
Kwa hizo takwimu za vifo vya COVID ni vyema kuziweka katika muktadha.
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huna jipya.
Imposing self isolation from parliamentary sessions while partying and drinking like a fish in night clubs.
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....still figuring out what they were smoking.
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COVID-19 Diaries: Can Tanzania Really Be Coronavirus-Free?
COVID-19 Diaries: Can Tanzania Really Be Coronavirus-Free?
By Ruud Elmendorp
July 20, 2020 12:07 PM
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DAR ES SALAAM, TANZANIA - Today I decided to do my own coronavirus survey, here in Dar es Salaam. Tanzania. The reason is that I am trying to deal with my confusion.
Two countries in the world don’t report cases of COVID-19 because, officially, it is not there. These are North Korea and… Tanzania. And yes, I happen to be locked down in Dar es Salaam, the main city of… Tanzania.
The number of countries that have reported cases of COVID-19 now stands at 188. I don’t know how I managed to end up in a country that claims not to have the coronavirus, but I did. My arrival in Tanzania was on March 16 and I have been here ever since, safely staying at the Mikadi Beach Camp.
The country stopped reporting cases of COVID-19 on April 29 with 509 infections at the time. But a few weeks ago, President Magufuli declared the pandemic in Tanzania officially over and said people should resume normal lives without even having to wear facemasks.
He said God had solved the issue with a divine intervention after national prayers. "Corona cannot survive in the body of Christ; it will burn,” the president had said.
However, in countries surrounding Tanzania, the number of COVID-19 cases has been rising. South Africa is recording 12,000 news cases per day on average, and in countries like Rwanda and Uganda, the virus is slowly spreading. Kenya has 500 new cases per day on average.
Furthermore Kenya and South Africa are reporting a shortage of hospital beds to take care of people who develop life-threatening symptoms.
So this morning I decided to leave our beach sanctuary, which has kept us safe for more than three months, and go for a survey in town.
The first leap of faith was taking the ferry from the southern part of the city to the central business district. As expected, the ferry was packed with people and cars, there were hardly any facemasks and no physical distancing whatsoever. Amazing, but not strange in a country that has been declared to be coronavirus-free.
I took some comfort from the fact I was wearing a fresh three-ply surgical facemask, but my best efforts to keep some kind of distance from others was in vain.
“There is no Corona in Tanzania,” said the motorbike driver who took me from the ferry into the central business district. And indeed, everywhere I looked there was the normal buzz of Dar es Salaam as I knew it from previous trips.
The shops are open, there are street markets and there are men seated on the street having their conversations. There are the people with sewing machines, the street food kiosks, all connected by the hooting of passing cars and tuk-tuks.
There were hardly any facemasks, and at times it felt like people were looking at me as an alien from outer space with my beautiful mask.
‘There is Corona in Italy, not in Tanzania,’ said the lady at the coffee shop where I was accustomed to having a double espresso. At that moment it occurred to me that for strict Muslim women, it’s easy to comply with face covering since they were already doing that.
If there were a health crisis caused by the coronavirus, a number of vulnerable people would unfortunately die from it. So I decided to visit graveyards. This wouldn’t enable me to do a statistically reliable survey, but there should be signs of an increased death rate in the form of new graves, or a cluster of recent death dates, or signs that the graveyards are filling up.
I had seen similar signs of tragedy in Zambia during the HIV epidemic, and in Angola during the Marburg virus epidemic.
Here in Dar es Salaam, I visited three graveyards in the center of the city. To my astonishment I found one or two new graves per graveyard, with the newest one dated in June. The median age in Tanzania is low, so I would expect a lower mortality rate, but if the country was suffering a major epidemic like in the United States, Brazil or Russia, there should have been more.
Then I passed by a hospital. Entering proved difficult because of tight security. But the entrance of the main hospital in Dar es Salaam showed no signs of panic. There were no ambulances rushing in and out, no beds outside on the compound marking a crisis.
The situation looked normal except that the hospital staff were wearing facemasks, even the guards. So that was the first sign that there could be something going on, but it’s hard to draw conclusions based on only that.
It’s the same with civil servants in Tanzania; they are all wearing facemasks and gloves. Is there something we don’t know? Another sign was that the hotel where I stayed last year was closed, but that could be because of a lack of tourists. Staying in Tanzania for months, we didn’t hear about any of the lodge staff having lost relatives or friends. So is there really no coronavirus in Tanzania?
Getting weary of being locked down, last week we decided to go to a club since they are open in Tanzania. Health specialists say this poses the greatest risk of contracting the coronavirus.
We danced, we drank, we were holding each other and we laughed. It is now weeks later and none of us has developed symptoms. This can be luck, or we became asymptomatic, who knows, but still …
Maybe Tanzania just did it by closing the borders quickly and the virus never spread. Maybe the Tanzanian Covidol potion inspired on a Madagascar recipe really worked. We at least took several shots of it and we didn’t get sick.
But a few days later I spoke with a colleague working for an international organization. He warned me that the coronavirus is still around in Tanzania and should be taken seriously. He told me he and his colleagues were working from home and advised me to remain careful.
Also, there have been numerous news reports of truck drivers in Tanzania testing positive at the border with Kenya. No more going to the disco then.
It all leads to confusion in the head.
On the way back to the lodge I decided to have a Tanzanian rice pilau dish in a street restaurant, all of which are also open. This is what I used to do during normal days, and having an indigenous Tanzanian pilau again was great.
While enjoying the pilau among
Tanzanians with no facemasks, I listened to a public address by President Kenyatta of Kenya, my home. He ended the lockdown of the capital Nairobi and the second city Mombasa, but maintained a curfew to control the spread of the virus. The country is recording a surge in the number of new infections, but he also has to revive the economy.
Meanwhile here in Tanzania we just don’t know what is happening. There might be an invisible danger roaming through the lively streets, or not.
Kenyatta also announced that international flights to Kenya would resume from August 1. At least from then I’ll be free to travel home from supposedly infection-free Tanzania to infected Kenya.
I’m not sure what’s wisdom because maybe there is no coronavirus in Tanzania, but I will take the risk. The coronavirus is not going to defeat me. I will go back home to my girlfriend.
COVID-19 Diaries: Can Tanzania Really Be Coronavirus-Free?
By Ruud Elmendorp
July 20, 2020 12:07 PM
Download Audio
DAR ES SALAAM, TANZANIA - Today I decided to do my own coronavirus survey, here in Dar es Salaam. Tanzania. The reason is that I am trying to deal with my confusion.
Two countries in the world don’t report cases of COVID-19 because, officially, it is not there. These are North Korea and… Tanzania. And yes, I happen to be locked down in Dar es Salaam, the main city of… Tanzania.
The number of countries that have reported cases of COVID-19 now stands at 188. I don’t know how I managed to end up in a country that claims not to have the coronavirus, but I did. My arrival in Tanzania was on March 16 and I have been here ever since, safely staying at the Mikadi Beach Camp.
The country stopped reporting cases of COVID-19 on April 29 with 509 infections at the time. But a few weeks ago, President Magufuli declared the pandemic in Tanzania officially over and said people should resume normal lives without even having to wear facemasks.
He said God had solved the issue with a divine intervention after national prayers. "Corona cannot survive in the body of Christ; it will burn,” the president had said.
However, in countries surrounding Tanzania, the number of COVID-19 cases has been rising. South Africa is recording 12,000 news cases per day on average, and in countries like Rwanda and Uganda, the virus is slowly spreading. Kenya has 500 new cases per day on average.
Furthermore Kenya and South Africa are reporting a shortage of hospital beds to take care of people who develop life-threatening symptoms.
So this morning I decided to leave our beach sanctuary, which has kept us safe for more than three months, and go for a survey in town.
The first leap of faith was taking the ferry from the southern part of the city to the central business district. As expected, the ferry was packed with people and cars, there were hardly any facemasks and no physical distancing whatsoever. Amazing, but not strange in a country that has been declared to be coronavirus-free.
I took some comfort from the fact I was wearing a fresh three-ply surgical facemask, but my best efforts to keep some kind of distance from others was in vain.
“There is no Corona in Tanzania,” said the motorbike driver who took me from the ferry into the central business district. And indeed, everywhere I looked there was the normal buzz of Dar es Salaam as I knew it from previous trips.
The shops are open, there are street markets and there are men seated on the street having their conversations. There are the people with sewing machines, the street food kiosks, all connected by the hooting of passing cars and tuk-tuks.
There were hardly any facemasks, and at times it felt like people were looking at me as an alien from outer space with my beautiful mask.
‘There is Corona in Italy, not in Tanzania,’ said the lady at the coffee shop where I was accustomed to having a double espresso. At that moment it occurred to me that for strict Muslim women, it’s easy to comply with face covering since they were already doing that.
If there were a health crisis caused by the coronavirus, a number of vulnerable people would unfortunately die from it. So I decided to visit graveyards. This wouldn’t enable me to do a statistically reliable survey, but there should be signs of an increased death rate in the form of new graves, or a cluster of recent death dates, or signs that the graveyards are filling up.
I had seen similar signs of tragedy in Zambia during the HIV epidemic, and in Angola during the Marburg virus epidemic.
Here in Dar es Salaam, I visited three graveyards in the center of the city. To my astonishment I found one or two new graves per graveyard, with the newest one dated in June. The median age in Tanzania is low, so I would expect a lower mortality rate, but if the country was suffering a major epidemic like in the United States, Brazil or Russia, there should have been more.
Then I passed by a hospital. Entering proved difficult because of tight security. But the entrance of the main hospital in Dar es Salaam showed no signs of panic. There were no ambulances rushing in and out, no beds outside on the compound marking a crisis.
The situation looked normal except that the hospital staff were wearing facemasks, even the guards. So that was the first sign that there could be something going on, but it’s hard to draw conclusions based on only that.
It’s the same with civil servants in Tanzania; they are all wearing facemasks and gloves. Is there something we don’t know? Another sign was that the hotel where I stayed last year was closed, but that could be because of a lack of tourists. Staying in Tanzania for months, we didn’t hear about any of the lodge staff having lost relatives or friends. So is there really no coronavirus in Tanzania?
Getting weary of being locked down, last week we decided to go to a club since they are open in Tanzania. Health specialists say this poses the greatest risk of contracting the coronavirus.
We danced, we drank, we were holding each other and we laughed. It is now weeks later and none of us has developed symptoms. This can be luck, or we became asymptomatic, who knows, but still …
Maybe Tanzania just did it by closing the borders quickly and the virus never spread. Maybe the Tanzanian Covidol potion inspired on a Madagascar recipe really worked. We at least took several shots of it and we didn’t get sick.
But a few days later I spoke with a colleague working for an international organization. He warned me that the coronavirus is still around in Tanzania and should be taken seriously. He told me he and his colleagues were working from home and advised me to remain careful.
Also, there have been numerous news reports of truck drivers in Tanzania testing positive at the border with Kenya. No more going to the disco then.
It all leads to confusion in the head.
On the way back to the lodge I decided to have a Tanzanian rice pilau dish in a street restaurant, all of which are also open. This is what I used to do during normal days, and having an indigenous Tanzanian pilau again was great.
While enjoying the pilau among
Tanzanians with no facemasks, I listened to a public address by President Kenyatta of Kenya, my home. He ended the lockdown of the capital Nairobi and the second city Mombasa, but maintained a curfew to control the spread of the virus. The country is recording a surge in the number of new infections, but he also has to revive the economy.
Meanwhile here in Tanzania we just don’t know what is happening. There might be an invisible danger roaming through the lively streets, or not.
Kenyatta also announced that international flights to Kenya would resume from August 1. At least from then I’ll be free to travel home from supposedly infection-free Tanzania to infected Kenya.
I’m not sure what’s wisdom because maybe there is no coronavirus in Tanzania, but I will take the risk. The coronavirus is not going to defeat me. I will go back home to my girlfriend.
Nyani Ngabu
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Hahahaaa. Ona hawa WCB!
Eti COVID..... F that.
Acha wale maisha tu.
Eti COVID..... F that.
Acha wale maisha tu.
Nyani Ngabu
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Hahahaaa.
Huyu mwandishi ni Mholanzi?
Nimezipenda hizo observations zake.
Mimi naamini Corona ipo.
Lakini, sikubali kama ni hatari kama tunavyoaminishwa.
Ugonjwa ukiwa ni hatari wala mtu huhitaji kutafuta uthibitisho kama huyo mwandishi alivyofanya.
Mtu kaenda hadi makaburini na hajaona ongezeko lolote la makaburi lisilo la kawaida.
Hahahaaa kanichekesha sana.
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Leo nimesikia (BBC World Service World News) rais Magufuli kasema tena Covid-19 imekwisha Tanzania kwa nguvu ya Mungu.
Wewe umesema unakubaliana naye, unakubaliana naye kwamba Covid-19 imekwisha Tanzania kwa nguvu ya Mungu?
Nyani Ngabu
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Hapana.
Labda tu hujanielewa vizuri.
Mimi huko kwenye habari za nguvu ya mungu sipo kabisa.
Na sijasema kuwa COVID-19 imekwisha.
Na sijakataa kuwa COVID-19 haipo.
Ninachosema ni kwamba, siamini kama hiyo COVID-19 ni kali au ni hatari kama inavyosemwa.
Hata mafua ya kawaida [common cold] yanasababishwa na coronavirus.
Kwa hiyo, ninachokubaliana na Rais Magufuli ni jinsi ambavyo alikabiliana nayo tokea hapo awali kwa kukataa kuifunga nchi, kwa kuruhusu mashule kufunguliwa, na mambo mengine kama hayo.
Yeye Magufuli kama anaamini kuwa ugonjwa umeisha kwa sababu ya maombi na nguvu za mungu, hiyo ni imani yake.
Mimi imani yangu ni kwamba, COVID-19 si hatari kivile kuhalalisha nchi kufungwa na kusitisha shughuli za kiuchumi.
Si umeona hata huyo mtu aliyeiandika ile makala uliyoileta jana anavyosema...
Mtu kaenda hadi makaburini kucheki kama kuna ongezeko la makaburi na kakuta hakuna.
Mwishowe akaishia kwenda kula pilau 🤣.
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Kipimo chako cha kuufanya ugonjwa mpya uwe wa hatari au si wa hatari ni kipi?
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Kwani watu huwa hawajilipui kwa minajili ya kuwa mashahidi watakaopewa hao mabikira mbinguni?
Unataka kukana na kusema kwamba Quran haijaahidi hilo?