ICC yakiri kupokea rasmi malalamiko kutoka Tanzania juu ya ukiukwaji wa haki za binadamu wakati wa uchaguzi uliopita

kajekudya · Nov 15, 2020

quimby_joey said:
Asante sana kiongozi kwa tafsiri yako. Ngoja tuone na hao prosecutors wa ICC tafsiri yao ikoje...

Labda swali moja la nyongeza mkubwa; assuming Bensouda anasema haya malalamiko waliyoyapokea ICC ina mamlaka kuyasikiliza hivyo wanaanzisha investigation, je, sisi kama nchi tunaweza kupingana na maamuzi yao? Au tunaweza kuchukua hatua gani. Asante sana.

Yes vizuri kabisa. Juzi kati hapa walitaka ku investigate wanajeshi wa Marekani kuwa walifanya Makosa hayo huko Afghanistan. Marekani imewapiga marufuku kukanyanga Ndani ya Nchi hiyo, though Marekani siyo member wa hiyo Mahakama kwakuwa siyo signatory wa Mkataba unaoinzisha( The Rome Statute for the International Criminal Court).

Aliyekuwa Rais wa Sudani Ali Bashir hadi leo hajapelekwa pamoja na kutolewa kwa warrant ya kukamatwa mda mrefu. Moja ya Changamoto ya International Law ni uncertainty kwenye enforcement Mechanism. Hawana Police Wala Gereza
So mtu anaweza kukataa kutii amri and nothing happens zaidi labda ya kelele na vikwazo.
Lakini pia Kama nilivoeleza awali, hii Mahakama watu wameanza kuipuza sana kwa kuwa ni Kama inatumika na baaada ya USA kuwapigia biti ndo kabisa kila mtu anawadharau. Lakini pia ni Kama inatumika.
Mfano, Kule Mymal Kuna Malalamiko ya watu wenye Imani ya Kiislam kufanyiwa Makosa hayo na Kuna watu wamelalamika na kupeleka mashtaka nadhani Gambia. Lakini nothing will be done kwa Sababu ya Mama kiongozi wa Mymal ni pro Western, ndio maana hata huskii kelele Kama mambo ingekuwa if hizo allegations zingekuwa angainst African state.
Juzi kati hapa, walifanya kituko. Wakati Uchaguzi wa Kongo umekaribia walimwachia Jean Pierry Bemba aende agombee Urais baaada ya kumshiklia kwa mda mrefu na alivoenda Mambo yakawa ndivyo sivyo wakamkamata tena.
Unaweza ukaona, kwamba hii Mahakama inavyopoteza heshima yake kwa kasi ya ajabu sana!

Kabende Msakila · Nov 15, 2020

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mtamamtete said:
Hakuna udogo kuhusiana na mauaji ya watu, kuiba kura na kutesa watu.

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MANG'ONYI · Nov 15, 2020

ICC inashughulikia kesi za genocide, atrocity, crimes against humanity, use of child soldiers, hayo mengine hayaangukii kwenye jurisdiction yao, hamna kesi hapo. Ni blah blah blah

kajekudya · Nov 15, 2020

denooJ said:
Huyo uliem quote hiyo comment yake ni namba ngapi? nina maswali kwake.

Mpaka miaka mitano iishe mzee utakuwa umechizi. Tafuta biashara nyingine hii ya Siasa imeshaingia mchanga Budha! Maana unahaha hatari! Utafikiri huna kazi nyingine, 24 hrs, 7 days uko humu!

Jile79 · Nov 15, 2020

Hawa CCM ni zamu yao kuisoma namba

Quinine · Nov 15, 2020

MANG'ONYI said:
ICC inashughulikia kesi za genocide, atrocity, crimes against humanity, use of child soldiers, hayo mengine hayaangukii kwenye jurisdiction yao, hamna kesi hapo. Ni blah blah blah

Crime against humanity.

Kabende Msakila · Nov 15, 2020

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mtamamtete said:
Hakuna udogo kuhusiana na mauaji ya watu, kuiba kura na kutesa watu.

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kajekudya said:
Makosa yamejumuishwa katika makundi manne
1. War Crimes: Haya ni Yale yanayotojea wakati wa Vita. Na ambayo yapo kinyume na Sheria zinaratibiwa masuala ya kivita, Rape, torture, rooting, kuua watu wasio na Silaha n.k Haya lazima kuwe na Vita.

2.Crimes against Humanity. Torture, Mauaji, Rape, Persecution, Enslavement n.k na ambayo ndio nadhani Hao wadau wamepeleka Malalamiko yao. Hapa siyo lazima kuwe na Vita inaweza kuwa at any time.
3.Genocide: Mauaji ya kimbali.
4. Acts of Agrression.

Sasa lazima ufahamu kuwa hii ni Mahakama ya Kimataifa Ina deal na issues za Nationals, kwahiyo always wanakuwa very careful kuhakikisha hawaingilii State Sovereignty ( Mamlaka za ndani ambazo).
Najua Kuna wajinga humu watabisha lakini ukweli ni Tanzania ni moja ya Nchi zenye Strong internal state Machinery zenye uwezo wa kuhandle haya mambo Kama yapo.
The Question is, these barking dogs have ever reported these allegations to the Institutions Concerned!? Wametoa ushirikiano ili ku investigate Malalamiko yao na hivyo vyombo vimepuuzia kushughulikia hayo Malalamiko au ni kelele tu!?

Mwanzo wa ukuta ndiyo mwisho wake - nadhani kinacholeta mkanganyiko ni uwezo wa mamlaka za ndani kutokuwa tayari kupingana kwenye maamuzi

Tusitarabike wote na kuacha ushenzi ushenzi unaotuchafua just for the sake ya wabinafsi wachache

denooJ · Nov 15, 2020

kajekudya said:
Makosa yamejumuishwa katika makundi manne
1. War Crimes: Haya ni Yale yanayotojea wakati wa Vita. Na ambayo yapo kinyume na Sheria zinaratibiwa masuala ya kivita, Rape, torture, rooting, kuua watu wasio na Silaha n.k Haya lazima kuwe na Vita.

2.Crimes against Humanity. Torture, Mauaji, Rape, Persecution, Enslavement n.k na ambayo ndio nadhani Hao wadau wamepeleka Malalamiko yao. Hapa siyo lazima kuwe na Vita inaweza kuwa at any time.
3.Genocide: Mauaji ya kimbali.
4. Acts of Agrression.

Sasa lazima ufahamu kuwa hii ni Mahakama ya Kimataifa Ina deal na issues za Nationals, kwahiyo always wanakuwa very careful kuhakikisha hawaingilii State Sovereignty ( Mamlaka za ndani ambazo).
Najua Kuna wajinga humu watabisha lakini ukweli ni Tanzania ni moja ya Nchi zenye Strong internal state Machinery zenye uwezo wa kuhandle haya mambo Kama yapo.
The Question is, these barking dogs have ever reported these allegations to the Institutions Concerned!? Wametoa ushirikiano ili ku investigate Malalamiko yao na hivyo vyombo vimepuuzia kushughulikia hayo Malalamiko au ni kelele tu!?

Juu umejitahidi kuelezea vizuri, hasa hapo kwenye makosa dhidi ya ubinaadamu (Crime against Humanity).

Umeielezea Tanzania kama nchi yenye "Strong Internal State Machinery" hii umeitumia kama moja ya defence yako kudanganya watu kwamba hiyo kesi haiwezi kuwa tried at ICC, ningependa uniambie, ni kigezo gani umekitumia ku justify hiyo title kwa vyombo vyetu vya maamuzi?

Binafsi, najua hivyo vyombo vyetu havina hiyo sifa ulivyovipa, vyote vinamilikiwa na CCM, hivyo huwezi kesi ya nyani ukampa ngedere, hapa tusidanganyane.

Lakini kubwa zaidi ni hili, na sijui kama unalifahamu au hulifahamu. Moja ya vigezo vya hiyo mahakama ni kuhakikisha mlalamikaji kabla ya kwenda kwao, amewahi kupeleka kwenye vyombo vyake vya ndani (mahakama) malalamiko yake, na kuamuliwa.

Lakini hilo halimzuii mlalamikaji kuendelea na step inayofuata, namaanisha kwenda ICC kama atakuwa hajaridhika na maamuzi ya mahakama za ndani, hili naona wengi hamlisemi, sijui ni makusudi au vipi nyie mmeegemea kimoja tu lazima aanze na mahakama za ndani, kama vile kwa kufanya hivyo ndio itakuwa final, something which is very wrong.

Ndio maana tunasema humu, hao wanaoshtakiwa, watapandishwa kizimbani ICC hata kama ni baada ya miaka kumi, hilo ni vyema wakalifahamu vizuri.

kajekudya · Nov 15, 2020

Kabende Msakila said:
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Mwanzo wa ukuta ndiyo mwisho wake - nadhani kinacholeta mkanganyiko ni uwezo wa mamlaka za ndani kutokuwa tayari kupingana kwenye maamuzi

Tusitarabike wote na kuacha ushenzi ushenzi unaotuchafua just for the sake ya wabinafsi wachache

Huo ni Mtazamo wako Bosi. USA huko mnakosema wamestaraabika na institutions Strong watu wanapigwa Risasi Mchana kweupe na maisha yanaendelea, kila siku Blacks wanatandikwa Risasi tena na Polisi, kitu ambacho watu wakikomaa sawa sawa inaweza kuingia kwenye Genocide.Lakini Kuna mtu amepelekwa ICC hadi leo.
Kwahiyo muache kujifafijisha. Watu wameshindwa Uchaguzi halafu mnaleta sijui ujinga wait kwenda ICC for what! Kwa kipi Cha ajabu kimetokea Tanzania.
Pale Ivory Coast Rais amejiongezea Mhula umeskia kelele yeyoye, watu zaidi ya 30 wamekufa, umeskia kelele yoyote? Unajua kwanini!? Yuke Rais aliwekea na Wafaransa ni Kibaraka Cha Wafaransa hata angeua watu wangapi you will never hear them condem him.
Sometimes na nyinyi mwege na akili. If they love you, kwanini hawa wasaidie na nyie mkawa matajiri as they are, kwanini hawawapi mbinu zinazowafanya wao wawe matajiri.
Kwanini Africa inapodhurumiwa na Makampuni yao kwenye rasli Mali hewapigi kelele na kuwatetea Waafrika. Kwanini wanapigwa kelele kwenye vitu vya kijinga kijinga tu if they real feel sorry for Africans

quimby_joey · Nov 15, 2020

Quinine said:
How the Court works

The crimes The Court's founding treaty, called the Rome Statute, grants the ICC jurisdiction over four main crimes.

www.icc-cpi.int

How the International Criminal Court works

The crimes

The Court's founding treaty, called the Rome Statute, grants the ICC jurisdiction over four main crimes.

First, the crime of genocide is characterised by the specific intent to destroy in whole or in part a national, ethnic, racial or religious group by killing its members or by other means: causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; or forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Second, the ICC can prosecute crimes against humanity, which are serious violations committed as part of a large-scale attack against any civilian population. The 15 forms of crimes against humanity listed in the Rome Statute include offences such as murder, rape, imprisonment, enforced disappearances, enslavement – particularly of women and children, sexual slavery, torture, apartheid and deportation.

Third, war crimes which are grave breaches of the Geneva conventions in the context of armed conflict and include, for instance, the use of child soldiers; the killing or torture of persons such as civilians or prisoners of war; intentionally directing attacks against hospitals, historic monuments, or buildings dedicated to religion, education, art, science or charitable purposes.

Finally, the fourth crime falling within the ICC's jurisdiction is the crime of aggression. It is the use of armed force by a State against the sovereignty, integrity or independence of another State.

Legal process

As an international court, the ICC's legal process may function differently from that in your national jurisdiction. Below are a few highlights giving key information on the legal process.
After crimes occur

1st Stage: Preliminary examinations

2nd Stage: Investigations

3rd Stage: Pre-Trial stage

4th Stage: Trial stage

5th Stage: Appeals stage

6th and Last Stage: Enforcement of sentence

The abundant bessings be upon you. In your opinion, do you have any clue of the time frame for the preliminary examination and investigation process?

denooJ · Nov 15, 2020

kajekudya said:
Mpaka miaka mitano iishe mzee utakuwa umechizi. Tafuta biashara nyingine hii ya Siasa imeshaingia mchanga Budha! Maana unahaha hatari! Utafikiri huna kazi nyingine, 24 hrs, 7 days uko humu!

Haya mambo ya ICC yenyewe ndio kazi yangu, kwahiyo hapa nakufundisha ujuzi wangu. Mi sio ticha kushika chaki all the time.

Una lingine?!

Papy ndombe · Nov 15, 2020

No woman no cry. Mwanamke ndo uibeba dunia, mwanamke mmoja akikosea kwenye malezi Bora mtoto akiwa kiongozi upeleka kilio kwenye Jamii.

nao · Nov 15, 2020

kajekudya said:
Mpaka miaka mitano iishe mzee utakuwa umechizi. Tafuta biashara nyingine hii ya Siasa imeshaingia mchanga Budha! Maana unahaha hatari! Utafikiri huna kazi nyingine, 24 hrs, 7 days uko humu!

Hivi kumbe nawe umenotice eeh yaani asipoangalia atapata ugonjwa wa moyo bure.

kajekudya · Nov 15, 2020

Hakuna unachokijua brother! Acha porojo, lazima kuwe na serous crimes committed and ziwe na some Sort ya muendelezo, lakini lazima kuwe na ushahidi kuwa vyombo vya ndani havitaki kushughulikia swala hilo hata baaada ya kulalamikia au havina uwezo wa kulishughulikia. Now Matokeo yatakuwaje ya kesi Hilo ni swala lingine.
Nakuhakikishia there nothing to bring ICC in Tanzania, kilichofanyika ni kutafuta faraja kipindi hiki ambacho mnapitia maumivu makali baaada ya kipigo cha paka mwizi

quimby_joey · Nov 15, 2020

kajekudya said:
Yes vizuri kabisa. Juzi kati hapa walitaka ku investigate wanajeshi wa Marekani kuwa walifanya Makosa hayo huko Afghanistan. Marekani imewapiga marufuku kukanyanga Ndani ya Nchi hiyo, though Marekani siyo member wa hiyo Mahakama kwakuwa siyo signatory wa Mkataba unaoinzisha( The Rome Statute for the International Criminal Court).

Aliyekuwa Rais wa Sudani Ali Bashir hadi leo hajapelekwa pamoja na kutolewa kwa warrant ya kukamatwa mda mrefu. Moja ya Changamoto ya International Law ni uncertainty kwenye enforcement Mechanism. Hawana Police Wala Gereza
So mtu anaweza kukataa kutii amri and nothing happens zaidi labda ya kelele na vikwazo.
Lakini pia Kama nilivoeleza awali, hii Mahakama watu wameanza kuipuza sana kwa kuwa ni Kama inatumika na baaada ya USA kuwapigia biti ndo kabisa kila mtu anawadharau. Lakini pia ni Kama inatumika.
Mfano, Kule Mymal Kuna Malalamiko ya watu wenye Imani ya Kiislam kufanyiwa Makosa hayo na Kuna watu wamelalamika na kupeleka mashtaka nadhani Gambia. Lakini nothing will be done kwa Sababu ya Mama kiongozi wa Mymal ni pro Western, ndio maana hata huskii kelele Kama mambo ingekuwa if hizo allegations zingekuwa angainst African state.
Juzi kati hapa, walifanya kituko. Wakati Uchaguzi wa Kongo umekaribia walimwachia Jean Pierry Bemba aende agombee Urais baaada ya kumshiklia kwa mda mrefu na alivoenda Mambo yakawa ndivyo sivyo wakamkamata tena.
Unaweza ukaona, kwamba hii Mahakama inavyopoteza heshima yake kwa kasi ya ajabu sana!

Asante sana mkuu. Nikiwa na swali nitarudi tena

kajekudya · Nov 15, 2020

denooJ said:
Haya mambo ya ICC yenyewe ndio kazi yangu, kwahiyo hapa nakufundisha ujuzi wangu. Mi sio ticha kushika chaki all the time.

Una lingine?!

Ungekuwa unajua anything about ICC and how it works wala usingejaribu kuandika ujinga unaouandika Budha. But if you are, tililika hapa tukuskie!

kajekudya · Nov 15, 2020

nao said:
Hivi kumbe nawe umenotice eeh yaani asipoangalia atapata ugonjwa wa moyo bure.

Teh teh the😂😂😂😂hatari Sana!

Busarautu · Nov 15, 2020

Kabende Msakila said:
Vitendo vilivyotokea havina uzito wa kuingiliwa na mahakama za kimataifa - ni migogoro midogo iwezayo kumalizwa na mahakama za ndani ya nchi

Watu wameua unaona ni kamgogoro [emoji23][emoji23]

denooJ · Nov 15, 2020

kajekudya said:
Hakuna unachokijua brother! Acha porojo, lazima kuwe ba serous crimes committed and ziwe na some Sort ya muendelezo, lakini lazima kuwe na ushahidi kuwa vyombo vya ndani havitaki kushughulikia swala hilo hata baaada ya kulalamikia au havina uwezo wa kulishughulikia. Now Matokeo yatakuwaje ya kesi Hilo ni swala lingine.
Nakuhakikishia there nothing to bring ICC in Tanzania, kilichofanyika ni kutafuta faraja kipindi hiki ambacho mnapitia maumivu makali baaada ya kipigo cha paka mwizi

Hujui chochote.

Ukisema serious crimes unamaanisha nini?

Hiyo serious crimes inaingia kwenye group gani kati ya yale manne ya kesi zinazofanyiwa kazi na hiyo mahakama?

Papy ndombe · Nov 15, 2020

Mama akikosea malezi Jamii ndio huumia

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