Je, Mungu wa Wakatoliki amebadilika au Wakatoliki wamepata Mungu mwingine?

Kiranga said:

Sijadiki imani, nakutaka utoe uthibitisho Mungu yupo.

Imani unaruhusiwa kuamini unavyotaka. Hii ni haki yako ya kikatiba.

Unaruhusiwa kuamini uongo pia, in fact kwenye kuamini hakuna kutenganisha uongo na ukweli, unaamini tu.

Kwenye kutafuta ukweli, hapo ndip9 tunatakiwa kuthibitisha mambo, kuondoka kwenye imani isiyo na uthibitisho.

Wewe umejikita katika imani isiyo na uthibitisho.

Unahubiri imani hiyo.

Nikikuambia uthibitishe Mungu yupo, mpaka sasa huwezi.

Kwa sababu hayupo.

Kama unabisha, thibitisha Mungu yupo.

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goswe said:

1 Wakorintho 2:13-15
[13]Nayo twayanena, si kwa maneno yanayofundishwa kwa hekima ya kibinadamu, bali yanayofundishwa na Roho, tukiyafasiri mambo ya rohoni kwa maneno ya rohoni.

[14]Basi mwanadamu wa tabia ya asili hayapokei mambo ya Roho wa Mungu; maana kwake huyo ni upuzi, wala hawezi kuyafahamu, kwa kuwa yatambulikana kwa jinsi ya rohoni.

[15]Lakini mtu wa rohoni huyatambua yote, wala yeye hatambuliwi na mtu.


Endelea kumtafuta mungu kwa macho
Au subiri unaweza ukamnusa siku
Ama kumsikia
Au kumuonja
Hisi zako tako hazitakusaidia kumjua
Inahitaji hisi ya sita.

Na pia unawes ukawa umewah kumuon mungu na ukampita

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Kiranga said:

Bado unahubiri dini.

Hujathibitisha Mungu yupo.

Thibitisha Mungu yupo, sihitaji mahubiri ya dini.

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goswe said:

Jibu gani tena zaidi
Unataka nikamshike mkono nikuletee
Nimekupa maandiko mazuri kama ww ni mlengwa kuokolewa utaielewa
Ila kama ni mwana wa upotovu utaona ni maneno ya dini

Utakapojua chanzo cha uhai wa vitu vyote
Na asili ya vitu vyoote utajua kuna mungu
Kama maandiko ayo hayakutoshi

Au utaponambia source of nature and life ni nini
Basi nitakuonyesha mungu kutokea apo

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Kiranga said:

Bado unahubiri dini.

Hujathibitisha Mungu yupo.

Thibitisha Mungu yupo, sihitaji mahubiri ya dini.

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goswe said:

1 Wakorintho 2:13-15
[13]Nayo twayanena, si kwa maneno yanayofundishwa kwa hekima ya kibinadamu, bali yanayofundishwa na Roho, tukiyafasiri mambo ya rohoni kwa maneno ya rohoni.

[14]Basi mwanadamu wa tabia ya asili hayapokei mambo ya Roho wa Mungu; maana kwake huyo ni upuzi, wala hawezi kuyafahamu, kwa kuwa yatambulikana kwa jinsi ya rohoni.

[15]Lakini mtu wa rohoni huyatambua yote, wala yeye hatambuliwi na mtu.


Endelea kumtafuta mungu kwa macho
Au subiri unaweza ukamnusa siku
Ama kumsikia
Au kumuonja
Hisi zako tano hazitakusaidia kumjua
Inahitaji hisi ya sita.

Na pia unawes ukawa umewah kumuon mungu na ukampita

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inamankusweke said:

Kanisa moja takatifu la mitume

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Superb2014 said:

Kanisa Katoliki haliabudu Sanamu bali linaabudu katika kweli, lakini kwa vile unachukulia vitu juu juu huwezi kuelewa hili.

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goswe said:

Maria hawezi kuwaokoa nafsi zao
Wala hawezi kuwaombea wasamehewe
Mariamu ilimbidi afunge na kuomba kwa machozi ili aiokoe nafsi yake mpaka siku ya pentekost
Hakina wwakukuombea wewe madhabi yako usamehewe ila wewe mwenyewe ukatubu kwa mungu.

Alafu wanasahau kuwa mariamu hakutoa chembe ya yai kwenye utengenezaji wa mimba ya yesu
Ila alitumika kuikuza mimba kama chombo
Hakukuwa na damu yake kwenye mwil wa kristo
Na ndomana yesu hajawah kumuita mariamu mama.

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goswe said:

Kukua kwa kanisa sio idadi brooo
Amkaa
Yesu alikuwa na wafuasi wengi mnoo wakafika wafuasi 70 anaotembea nao kila sehem
Ila kanisa lake lilipozidi kukua akawa na watu 12
Soma biblia mungu hajawai kufanya kazi na kundi kubwa
Sikuzote nikikundi kidogo tu cha watu.
Akiwa na watu wengu anaongea kwa amafumbo
Akiwa na kikundu chake anawaeleza wazi wazi
Alafu anakaa nao anawapa mambo ya kimbinguni

Kukua sio wingi wa sadaka wala watu

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jiwe angavu said:

Huko ni kujifariji mkuu.

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mpolekabisa said:

Biblia inasema Mungu ni yeye yule jana na leo na hata milele, yaani Mungu habadiliki wala habadilishi misimamo yake. Mwaka juzi papa alipoulizwa kama kanisa Katoliki linaweza kubariki ndoa ya jinsia moja, alijibu haiwezekani KWA SABABU MUNGU HAWEZI KUBARIKI DHAMBI:

ROME (AP) — The Vatican declared Monday that the Catholic Church won’t bless same-sex unions since God “cannot bless sin.”

The Vatican’s orthodoxy office, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, issued a formal response to a question about whether Catholic clergy have the authority to bless gay unions. The answer, contained in a two-page explanation published in seven languages and approved by Pope Francis, was “negative.”

Lakini mwaka huu alipoulizwa swali lile lile papa amesema ndoa za jinsia moja zinaweza kubarikiwa, na watu hao wanaruhusiwa kuwa baba na mama wa ubatizo!:

Catholic Church relaxes rules for transgenders​

Pope Francis recently suggested priests could bless same-sex unions on an individual basis.
The Vatican’s doctrinal office has clarified its stance on transgender believers, saying they may get baptized and play various roles within the Catholic faith so long as it does not risk “public scandal.”

In a letter responding to questions posed by a Brazilian bishop, the church’s Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith outlined its position toward transgender and other LGBT worshipers, affirming that they may receive the sacrament of baptism, serve as witnesses in wedding ceremonies and act as godparents to Catholic children.

Je, Mungu kabadili msimamo kuhusu dhambi ya ushoga maana papa alisema awali kuwa MUNGU HAWEZI KUBARIKI DHAMBI, au kanisa katoliki chini ya papa Fransis limepata mungu mwingine wa kichina ambaye yeye kwake kubariki dhambi ya ushoga siyo tatizo?

Kwa maoni yangu binafsi, kwa kuwa ninaamini kuwa Mungu hawezi kubadilika kwa mujibu wa Biblia (Ebr 13:8), basi italkuwa kanisa katoliki limeachana na Mungu wa Biblia na limejipatia mungu wa kichina anayekwenda na wakati hasa akizingatia haki za kidemokrasia kam,a zinavyosimamiwa na mataifa ya magharibi hasa Marekani (Democratic). Wadau mnasemaje? karibuni tudadavue!!

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Jasmoni Tegga said:

Isaya 44:9-20
[9] Wachongao sanamu, wote ni ubatili; wala mambo yao yawapendezayo hayatafaa kitu; wala mashahidi wao wenyewe hawaoni, wala hawajui; ili watahayarike.

[10] Ni nani aliyejichongea mungu mmoja, au aliyesubu sanamu isiyofaa kitu?

[11] Tazama, wenziwe wote watatahayari; na mafundi, hao ni wanadamu; na wakusanyike pamoja, wakasimame; wataogopa na kutahayari pamoja.

[12] Mfua chuma hufanza shoka, hufanya kazi kwa makaa, huitengeneza sanamu kwa nyundo, huifanyiza kwa nguvu za mkono wake; naam, huona njaa, nguvu zake zikampungukia; asipokunywa maji huzimia.

[13] Seremala hunyosha uzi; huiandika kwa kalamu ya mate; huitengeneza kwa randa, huiandika kwa bikari, huifanza kwa mfano wa mwanadamu, sawasawa na uzuri wa mwanadamu, ili ikae nyumbani.

[14] Yeye hujikatia mierezi, hutwaa mtiriza, na mwaloni, hujichagulia mti mmoja katika miti ya msituni; hupanda mvinje, mvua ikausitawisha.

[15] Kisha utamfaa mwanadamu kwa kuni; hutwaa kipande, akaota moto; naam, huuwasha moto, akaoka mkate; naam, huufanya mungu, akauabudu; huifanya sanamu ya kuchonga, akaisujudia.

[16] Sehemu moja huiteketeza; kwa sehemu nyingine hula nyama; huoka chakula kiokwacho, akashiba; naam, huota moto, akasema, Aha, nimeota moto, nimeona moto;

[17] na kwa sehemu iliyobakia hufanya mungu, yaani, sanamu yake ya kuchonga; husujudu mbele yake akaiabudu, akaiomba, akasema, Uniokoe; maana wewe u mungu wangu.

[18] Hawajui wala hawafikiri; maana amewafumba macho, wasione, na mioyo yao, wasiweze kufahamu.

[19]Wala hapana atiaye moyoni, wala hapana maarifa, wala fahamu kusema, Nimeteketeza sehemu motoni, naam, pia nimeoka mkate juu ya makaa yake; nimeoka nyama nikaila; nami, je! Kilichobaki nikifanye kuwa chukizo? Je! Nisujudie shina la mti?

[20] Hula majivu; moyo uliodanganyika umempotosha, asiweze kuiokoa nafsi yake, wala kusema, Je! Sio uongo mkononi mwangu?

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kidole cha simba said:

jana papa katangaza kwamba mashoga wana haki ya kubatizwa na kusimamia ndoa,,,kimsingi ushoga ni ruksa kwa katoliki

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Sang'udi said:

Mathayo 16:18
"Nami ninakuambia: Wewe ndiwe Petro, na juu ya mwamba huu nitalijenga kanisa langu, wala milango ya kuzimu haitalishinda."

Kristu amejenga Kanisa Katoliki juu ya mwamba. Hakuna nguvu za kuzimu zinazoweza kulishinda.

Kamwe halitaruhusu dhambi ya ushoga wala kuruhusu manyanyaso ya mashoga na wadhambi wengine.

Mungu huchukia dhambi, si wadhambi.

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mpolekabisa said:

Biblia inasema Mungu ni yeye yule jana na leo na hata milele, yaani Mungu habadiliki wala habadilishi misimamo yake. Mwaka juzi papa alipoulizwa kama kanisa Katoliki linaweza kubariki ndoa ya jinsia moja, alijibu haiwezekani KWA SABABU MUNGU HAWEZI KUBARIKI DHAMBI:

ROME (AP) — The Vatican declared Monday that the Catholic Church won’t bless same-sex unions since God “cannot bless sin.”

The Vatican’s orthodoxy office, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, issued a formal response to a question about whether Catholic clergy have the authority to bless gay unions. The answer, contained in a two-page explanation published in seven languages and approved by Pope Francis, was “negative.”

Lakini mwaka huu alipoulizwa swali lile lile papa amesema ndoa za jinsia moja zinaweza kubarikiwa, na watu hao wanaruhusiwa kuwa baba na mama wa ubatizo!:

Catholic Church relaxes rules for transgenders​

Pope Francis recently suggested priests could bless same-sex unions on an individual basis.
The Vatican’s doctrinal office has clarified its stance on transgender believers, saying they may get baptized and play various roles within the Catholic faith so long as it does not risk “public scandal.”

In a letter responding to questions posed by a Brazilian bishop, the church’s Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith outlined its position toward transgender and other LGBT worshipers, affirming that they may receive the sacrament of baptism, serve as witnesses in wedding ceremonies and act as godparents to Catholic children.

Je, Mungu kabadili msimamo kuhusu dhambi ya ushoga maana papa alisema awali kuwa MUNGU HAWEZI KUBARIKI DHAMBI, au kanisa katoliki chini ya papa Fransis limepata mungu mwingine wa kichina ambaye yeye kwake kubariki dhambi ya ushoga siyo tatizo?

Kwa maoni yangu binafsi, kwa kuwa ninaamini kuwa Mungu hawezi kubadilika kwa mujibu wa Biblia (Ebr 13:8), basi italkuwa kanisa katoliki limeachana na Mungu wa Biblia na limejipatia mungu wa kichina anayekwenda na wakati hasa akizingatia haki za kidemokrasia kam,a zinavyosimamiwa na mataifa ya magharibi hasa Marekani (Democratic). Wadau mnasemaje? karibuni tudadavue!!

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ndege joni said:

Mimi ni Mkatoliki, hata papa aseme ameruhusu huo upuuzi nitamchukulia kama binadamu wengine wenye dhambi. Kwa upande wangu ni bora aruhusu kuoa mke zaidi ya mmoja ila sio ndoa za jinsia moja

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Lupweko said:

Kwa imani yako (sijajua ni ipi), wadhambi hawaruhusiwi kubatizwa na kuwa waumini safi wenye majukumu kanisani?

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