Je, wazungu sio wakazi asilia wa hii dunia?

Je, wazungu sio wakazi asilia wa hii dunia?

Asante Mshana Jr, sasa kama ulikusudia kuleta mjadala fikirishi (yaani wewe usiwe mjibuji) basi nafikiri ungeuleta kivingine kidogo.

Samahani kwa kusema hivi, lakini ukitazama wachangiaji wa mwanzo kwa sehemu kubwa walichukua kama facts na kumeza tu.
Umeshasoma kitabu cha Enoch? Majority had evil/ wicked spirits, have u see how they were smiling posing for pictures with dead gruesome tortured nigas in US slavery periods. Do you see how they pay large cash in Africa game reserves to hunt down lion etc and kill them for fun, ever see black man do that, Maasai's different thing.

Can you see how they're legalising sodomy in their country, its a normal thing to majority them. Et cetera
But they're evolving
 
mshana jr wachina asili yao wapi?

Wachina wana asili ya Africa, hasa Bushmen wa Kalahari desert-Botswana, Namibia na South Africa

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Kabla ya kukujibu naomba kukuuliza, je wewe mpaka sasa umesoma au kupekua vitabu gani mpaka ukapata majibu uliyoondika hapa?

Nauliza kwa nia nzuri ya wazi hivyo uwe huru kueleza
Nimejaribu tu kuifikirisha Akili yangu ndogo, kwa maana ukizama zaidi unaweza kukuta unakiumiza kichwa chako...!

Tujiulize, limeanzia wapi somo (nadharia) kwamba Binaadamu wa kwanza alikuwa Nyani..!!?

Tujiulize ni kwa nini FUVU la binaadamu wa kwanza wa kale, livumbuliwe/ligunduliwe Tanzania- Arusha-Oldvai George..!!?

Tujiulize ni kwa vipi wanakuja na Ripoti, za Umri wa Sayari ya Dunia...!

Mifupa ya kale ya Viumbe kama "Dinosau", umri wa tangu kuumbwa/kuwepo kwa sayari mbalimbali mfano Mars...!!

Hivi je ni kweli...? Ulimwengu wote huu na SIFA alizojivika Mzungu, ameshindwa kutuambia BABU...BABA...MAMA...yake wa kale au wa kwanza, amegunduliwa katika Makaburi yapi...!!

Wanajaribu kutufikirisha kwa Picha na Michoro za Nabii/Mtume na wafuasi wake kuwa walikuwa Wazungu...!!

Jiilize ni kwa nini Manabii wote wamehusika Mashariki ya Kati..!

Mshana Jr, unaweza kurudi na hoja ama tafakari, kushibisha na kujazia mada yako.

Tuendeleze mjadala...
 
Mmh usitoe hukumu kwa haraka kiasi hicho mjadala bado uko hai usihofu
“Perhaps the more important reason the compilation and translation of the documents of the Bible in Ancient Egypt is very significant in this discussion is the fact that historians, Egyptologists, and biblical scholars have all found what they call numerous similarities between Ancient Egyptian and biblical literature. However, these scholars who were all raised in the biblical perception of things have never had the courage to state clearly and unequivocally that the Jewish scholars of the Bible in Alexandria took Ancient Egyptian documents and translated them for the Greeks as their own. Their findings however, confirm two main issues; either the biblical stories were taken directly from Ancient Egyptian literature or they were rewritten alongside existing Ancient Egyptian stories. One fact stands out clearly in the analysis of some of the documents of the Bible, and that fact is they were not original Jewish people’s documents.”

Nana Banchie Darkwah, Ph.D.
“The Africans who wrote the Bible: Ancient Secrets Africa and Christianity have never told”
Page 111

“I have focused on the African tribal names of the authors of the Old Testament because there is evidence that the names of the authors of the New Testament were clearly and deliberately concealed to forestall any future revelation as I am doing about the Old Testament. The Old Testament Bible introduced the foundations, concept, and practice of Christianity in Europe before anonymous writers wrote the New Testament. Here is an intriguing question about the Bible that exposes the pervading intent to deceive in the Bible. Why did scholars of the Old Testament include the real tribal [albeit transposed] names of the authors but the writers of the New Testament concealed their names? What made this necessary? Jewish scholars that compiled and translated the documents of the Old Testament into Greek convinced the Greeks that God-inspired ancient Jewish prophets and priests wrote the documents of the Bible.

As a result, the Old Testament acquired a canonical credibility for having been Godly and true because ancient God-inspired prophets wrote it. The foundation of Christianity therefore began from the premise that it was God that inspired Jewish prophets to write the documents of the Old Testament. The question is did God inspire Moses to write Ancient Egyptian religious ideas, myths, and folk tales as they are found in the First Five Books of the Bible, or were these Ancient Egyptian religious documents that the scholars of the Bible plagiarized? What about the documents of the New Testament? Who did God inspire to write those and why have we never known the true identities of the authors?

“Historians and religious scholars agree that the New Testament was definitely not written by God-inspired prophets, but by contemporary Hellenized Jews in Ancient Egypt or Greece. Christianity as a religious doctrine and practice had already started from the Old Testament documents and the appearance of a new set of documents purported to be equally Godly and religious documents of the Afrim people became a major source of apprehension in early Christendom. The early church did not want to risk the growing credibility in its assertion that the Old Testament is the word and the work of God to bring in new documents that were surely written by contemporary scholars. So the names of the authors of the New Testament had to be concealed to make it possible to confer some of the growing credibility of the Old Testament onto the New Testament documents.”

“What is least pointed out about the New Testament is that Jewish priests and religious scholars found the New Testament to be the worst form of religious deception of the Greeks and later Europeans. As a result, Judaism never accepted the documents of the New Testament as part of its traditionally divine religious truths. That was enough to warn the Greeks that the New Testament documents must have been designed to commit a pious fraud as Judaism saw them. Nevertheless, these new documents became the spiritual inspiration and direction for the design of a new form of religion based upon the New Testament. Today, Christians around the world still do not know where these documents came from but they believe it, and they attribute the writers of the New Testament gospels to some fictitious Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. However, nobody knows who these authors were and most Christians know that these were not their real names, but it does not matter to them. This is because these documents have also been woven into the devotional faith of Christianity as holy and God-inspired documents.”

Nana Banchie Darkwah, Ph.D.
“The Africans who wrote the Bible: Ancient Secrets Africa and Christianity have never told”
Page 92

“Is it not interesting that the Ancient Egyptian document that existed before the Bible began with a God that was the ‘Creator of heavens and earth,’ and the biblical document also began with ‘God created the heaven and earth?’ Is it not interesting that the Ancient Egyptian document began with a God that created man and gave him life by breathing into his nostrils, and the biblical documents also told the story of a God that created man and ‘breathed into his nostrils the breath of life?’ Is it not interesting that the Ancient Egyptian document began with the imagination and conception of a God, His form, and capabilities, and the biblical document began with a God from nowhere? Could the scholars of the biblical documents have begun with a Christian God from nowhere because this God had already been imagined and personified by the Ancient Egyptians? Otherwise wouldn’t it have been more prudent for the Jewish scholars of the Bible to begin the biblical documents from the conception and personification of this God just as the Ancient Egyptians had done?”

“Anyone who knows the beginning documents of the Bible would think the Ancient Egyptian excerpts above are excerpts from the Bible, but they are not. These were the writings of Ancient Egyptians perception of God and religion thousands of years before the documents of the Bible came to be compiled, edited, rewritten, and translated in Ancient Egypt. Why would a modern Christian think these are biblical excerpts? It is because these are the exact foundations, concepts, and perceptions of God that the Bible propagates as Christianity today. Can you now guess where the biblical ideas of God and the story of creation must have originated from these few excerpts? We now know that what Christianity has long asserted, as the Hebrew God is a lie. This was the God the black people of Ancient Egypt had imagined and personified. The Jewish scholars of the Bible simply took and made this God their own before the Greeks and later Europeans.”

Nana Banchie Darkwah, Ph.D.
“The Africans who wrote the Bible: Ancient Secrets Africa and Christianity have never told”
Page 100

“Until now, nobody has performed a comparative analysis of Ancient Egyptian and biblical documents to reveal the true source of the documents of the Christian Bible. The Ancient Egyptian idea and document stating that ‘God is from the beginning’ was what became the biblical introduction of ‘In the beginning.’ The Ancient Egyptian idea that ‘God hath made the universe… He is the creator of what is in this world’ was what the Jewish scholars took for it to become the biblical version ‘God created heaven and earth.’ Is it not interesting that the Ancient Egyptians began their document with the conception of a God who was ‘from the beginning, and He had been from the beginning,’ and the biblical document also began with, ‘In the beginning…?’”

“Further comparative analysis of the Ancient Egyptian document above and the biblical documents reveal something else that has never been pointed out in support of Ancient Egyptian origin of the doctrines and documents of Christianity. It is clear that the Ancient Egyptian document above begins with the imagination and personification of the concept of God. This is because logically one cannot have a God creating everything in this world without first establishing how this God came to be. Because the Ancient Egyptians had to create the concept of religion from its very foundations, they began with how God came to be. However, the biblical documents do not begin with how this God came to be because the Ancient Egyptians had already created and personified him. Because the Jewish scholars of the Bible simply took the God the Ancient Egyptians had imagined and personified in their beliefs, the biblical document begins with a God seemingly from nowhere creating heaven and earth. The logic of the biblical God from nowhere did not become an issue for the Jewish scholars of the biblical documents because they were simply taking what the Ancient Egyptians had already established in concept, doctrines, documents, and sacramental practices. For such an enterprise, the Jewish scholars of the Bible did not have to go back to the beginning of the imagination and personification of this God, as the Ancient Egyptian had to do.”

Nana Banchie Darkwah, Ph.D.
“The Africans who wrote the Bible: Ancient Secrets Africa and Christianity have never told”
Page 100

“In this discussion, I have pointed out that the Jewish people of the Exodus were black people and they originated from the black tribes that were the Ancient Egyptians. As I have stated earlier, the Jewish scholars of the Bible at Alexandria did not have any body of religious documents ready to translate for the Greeks. There is no historical, biblical, or literary evidence of when, where, and how the authors of the Old Testament beginning from Moses wrote the books attributed to them. Remember that what these people supposedly wrote were not pieces of articles. They are considered books in the Bible. If Jewish prophets and priests created the books in the Old Testament, these books could not have been the only books created by these authors, and there should have been some evidence as to when, where, and how these authors created these and other books. Yet, there is no evidence as to when, where, and how these authors created these and other books. Yet, there is no evidence of such nature. What does it mean? It means the Jewish scholars of the Bible in Ancient Egypt did not have any body of Jewish religious documents from which the biblical documents could have been simply translated for the Greeks.”

“The body of religious documents, from which the biblical documents were compiled, edited, and translated were Ancient Egyptian documents. These documents were what the Jewish scholars of Ancient Egypt took and claimed as their own before the Greeks, but it was a lie. As a result, all that the Jewish scholars of the Bible did in Alexandria was to compile, rewrite, edit, and translate Ancient Egyptian religious documents that were available to them into Greek, and that became the Old Testament Bible. As the Jewish scholars took these Egyptians documents that were written mostly by the Akan people of Ancient Egypt, they simply transposed the Akan and other African tribal names of the original authors into Greek, and the names are still discernible.”

“I would like to emphatically state again that the concepts, doctrines, and documents that the Jewish scholars compiled into the Old Testament were not original Jewish religious concepts, doctrines, and documents. These concepts and documents were Ancient Egyptians in origin created by the Akan and other African tribes from which the Jewish people originated.”

“The Jewish scholars of the biblical documents were largely right in their calculations of the effectiveness of the foundations of their deception. These scholars knew that their deception would work because they were passing these documents on to people of a foreign land. In reality, these deceptions have worked because they have gone undiscovered in these foreign lands for the past two thousand years. How do we know all these? Again, the transposed African tribal names of the authors of the Old Testament reveal what must have happened for such African names to appear in the biblical documents, and the revelation of the Africans who wrote the Bible in the last chapter would finally confirm it all.”

“The Jewish scholars of the Bible first wrote a fictitious biblical history of the Jewish people around the African authors whose documents they chose as biblical documents. The Old Testament is therefore more about the history of the Jewish people woven around the religion espoused by the authors of the Old Testament Books. With the Old Testament history of the Jewish people in place and accepted as the absolute truth in Europe, Jewish historians began to extract their history from the biblical account, and early western historians also began to write every history around this biblical account. Through the Old Testament therefore Jewish scholars, Christianity, and historians simply claimed the authors of the Old Testament and their works as Jewish.”

Nana Banchie Darkwah, Ph.D.
“The Africans who wrote the Bible: Ancient Secrets Africa and Christianity have never told”
Page 90

“In Europe where the Bible was first hailed as the greatest book ever produced by God and man, there is today a dual perception of the documents of the Bible. There is the scholastic perception held by those who have delved deep into the history behind the documents of the Bible. These scholars have found out that the people, the history, and the documents of the Bible are not as sacred as the conspiracies of the priesthood have made them to be over the past two thousand years. What is sad about these findings is that they are not exposed to the public as mainstream knowledge about the Bible. Such a perception of the Bible of most western scholars is represented by what Will Durant wrote:

‘The Old Testament is not only law; it is history, poetry and philosophy of the highest order. After making every deduction for primitive legend and pious fraud, after admitting that the historical books are not quite as accurate or as ancient as our forefathers supposed, we find in them, nevertheless, not merely some of the oldest historical writing known to us, but some of the best (1935, p.339). [The History of Civilization: Our Oriental Heritage].’

“This perception points out plainly that the foundations of the documents of the Bible originate from primitive legends and myths. They are theosophically fraudulent and historically inaccurate. Moreover, the documents of the Bible are not as old as Christian Europe has made them to be. There were older documents. Nevertheless, these are not what the custodians of the Bible would like the masses to know.”

“Of course, Christians who still believe that these documents were written with the spiritual guidance of God counter this perception. There is therefore the divine perception of the biblical documents that holds that the Bible is the most sacred religious documents ever written for the salvation of humans. This interpretive perception was originally created by the Catholic Church in its quest for religious and political domination of Europe. This perception gave the Church the right of dictatorship with the inherent right to extort, ex-communicate, and kill by the most atrocious means ever conceived by man. Unfortunately, this perception is still fervently guarded by the supposed religious mandates of the powerful Christians who stand to benefit most in wealth and power from the ignorance of the masses. The saddest part of the Christian argument is that they do not even know the origin of the God to whom they attribute the biblical documents and such fervency.

Nana Banchie Darkwah, Ph.D.
“The Africans who wrote the Bible: Ancient Secrets Africa and Christianity have never told”
Page 89





Kuna kitabu nilikisoma jaribu kufuatilia na tuambie kuna ukwel ndani yake?
 
Asante Mshana Jr, sasa kama ulikusudia kuleta mjadala fikirishi (yaani wewe usiwe mjibuji) basi nafikiri ungeuleta kivingine kidogo.

Samahani kwa kusema hivi, lakini ukitazama wachangiaji wa mwanzo kwa sehemu kubwa walichukua kama facts na kumeza tu.
Yeah ni sahihi lakini huwezi kumpangia mtu unajua ila kadiri muda unavyokwenda unaweza kupata mtazamo sahihi wa mada husika
 
Mzungu ni nani na katokea wapi? je kipindi ambacho yesu anazaliwa huko mashariki ya kati wale akina kaisari amabao walikua ni watawala wa ufalme wa kirumi walikua watu gani kama sio wazungu? swala la kuwapondea ni wivu wetu tu sisi watu weusi na hali ya kukosa ubunifu na akili za kukabiliana nao..... ikumbukwe kua hata hizo dini mnazojifichia akazileta huyohuyo mzungu na ndio aliowafundisha ustaarabu pamoja na kuuleta ukoloni na badae kusaidia harakati za mapambano dhidi ya biashara ya utumwa na baadae ukoloni...

kama kweli mtoa mada unadai sisi ni watu wa mungu iweje hao tunaowasema vibaya wapendelewe kua na maendeleo pamoja na utajiri uliotukuka?
hayo ni maneno tu ya mfa maji....walishatutangulia kutokana na matumizi yao sahihi ya akili zao.....
na huyu Mungu mnaemuongelea pengine sio mungu mkuu na ndio maana wao wazungu kama wana mungu wao amekua anawasaidia sana na mambo yao yanakwenda vizuri.
Kwani mkuu Yesu alizaliwa mwanzo wa dunia?! Agano jipya ndo alizaliwa Yesu ila watu waliishi awali kabla yake so tuangazie mada je asili ya wazungu katika maandiko ni ipi
 
Kwani mkuu Yesu alizaliwa mwanzo wa dunia?! Agano jipya ndo alizaliwa Yesu ila watu waliishi awali kabla yake so tuangazie mada je asili ya wazungu katika maandiko ni ipi

mwanzo wa dunia ni upi? na binadam wa kwanza walikua wa rangi gani?
 
Badala ya kuzungumzia kuhusu mzungu nadhani ni bora tuzungumzie ipi haswa ni asili yetu watu weusi?,
kila kitu kinaelezwa ndani ya biblia, baada ya gharika ya nuhu ambaye alikuwa na wanaye watatu, ham, shem na sijui yafethi hivi, ikatokea mmojawapo akalaaniwa na baba yao(mzee nuhu) ndio kuanzia hapo huyo mwana aliyemlaani akawa anaitwa 'kushi' maana yake ni black, na huyo ndiye baba wa blacks wote
Mkuu hoja inajengeka kuwa Mtu Mweusi kalaaniwa...[emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23]
Kunywa maji mengi kutabidi kuhusike
 
Badala ya kuzungumzia kuhusu mzungu nadhani ni bora tuzungumzie ipi haswa ni asili yetu watu weusi?,
kila kitu kinaelezwa ndani ya biblia, baada ya gharika ya nuhu ambaye alikuwa na wanaye watatu, ham, shem na sijui yafethi hivi, ikatokea mmojawapo akalaaniwa na baba yao(mzee nuhu) ndio kuanzia hapo huyo mwana aliyemlaani akawa anaitwa 'kushi' maana yake ni black, na huyo ndiye baba wa blacks wote
Mkuu hapo umedanganya aliye laaniwa ni kanaani siyo kushi
 
Mkuu hoja inajengeka kuwa Mtu Mweusi kalaaniwa...[emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23]
Kunywa maji mengi kutabidi kuhusike
Mkuu, huyo mtu mweusi amelaaniwa vip!! biblia inasema wana wa Hamu ni kushi na misri, na putu na kanaani. biblia ipo wazi kabisa alaaniwe kanaani atakuwa mtumwa kabisa kwa ndugu zake
 
Wakuu naomba kueleweshwa maana naifuatilia mada ila mpaka sasa bado najiuliza swali ambalo nimeshindwa kupata jibu. TUNAPOMZUNGUMZIA MZUNGU NI MTU GANI, ANATOKEA TAIF LIPI MA BARA LIPI? maana kuna wamarekani, wajerumani, waitaly nk pia kuna wahindi na wachina nk...

Je MZUNGU hasa ni NANI?
 
Watu weusi hasa waafrika tunatabu sana...kama mtu unaamini kuwa wazungu wapo vile ni kwa sababu ya akili zao basi lazima ukubali kuwa wazungu ni viumbe tofauti na wengine.
 
mwanzo wa dunia ni upi? na binadam wa kwanza walikua wa rangi gani?
Boss according to the reference of Bible Genesis 1:1-2, 27 nanukuu mkuu "in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth, the earth was without form and void and darkness was upon the face of the deep and the spirit of God was moving over the face of the waters" 1-2, "so God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him male and female he created them" soma na mstari wa 28 mkuu.

According to my faith hapo ndo mwanzo wa dunia na hao Adam and Eve ndo binadam wa kwanza ila am not into science so I really can't prove my answer scientifically

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Tujiulize, limeanzia wapi somo (nadharia) kwamba Binaadamu wa kwanza alikuwa Nyani..!!?

Tujiulize ni kwa nini FUVU la binaadamu wa kwanza wa kale, livumbuliwe/ligunduliwe Tanzania- Arusha-Oldvai George..!!?

Mimi siamini kama binadamu wa kale alikuwa nyani. Kama alikuwa nyani basi hata sasa ni nyani na sio binadam. PERIOD.

Shuleni kuna hadithi za namna nyingi, tena nyingi za uongo na chache zenye kufundisha lakini tuna wajibu wa kutafuta ukweli beyond academic and religion walls. Hadithi na nadharia eti zamani mamba na mijusi walikuwa dinosaurs nk nk

Ukweli ni kwamba binadamu ni binadamu toka yule wa kwanza mpaka wa mwisho. Hakuna binadamu aliyekuwa nyani wakati wowote.

Maswali machache madogo:-

1) Kwanini nyani leo hawawi binadamu??

2) Halafu, nini kilitokea kukomesha huo utaratibu wa nyani kuwa binadam?

3) Na kama nyani alikuwa anakuwa binadamu, je baadaye huyu binadam alikuwa anakuwa nani sasa?
 
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