Kama kweli, basi Magufuli kwa hili atakuwa ameibua makubwa, Kenya hebu tuliangalie

[Oxlade-Chamberlain]

That is a very valid discussion that we should have as africans. How to develop our capacity to tackle health issues from capacity, to research etc.

And we have the resources to make it happen.

 

[Stroke]

Nimpongeze Rais wetu anajali sana watanzania, kajitolea haswa kwa ajili yetu.

 

[mamaudaku]

Yaani raisi yuko sahihi hamjui sasa hivi huyu bill gate anavyotembeza pesa kuwatia hofu wanadamu ili wapate taharuki wakubali chanjo ni matangazo ya corona kila sehemu hata marekani dr amekiri wanasajili vifo fake vya corona tuamke unashaangaa BBC kila siku corona tz mbona uingereza wAnakufa sana hawatangazi

 

[mamaudaku]

JPM mara zote hua yupo makini na anamisimamo...Dunia nzima ilikimbilia lockdown yeye hakuona kama ni lazima..chukua tahadhari endelea na kazi maana alijua lockdown hatuwezani nayo...

Haya ya kuangalia ufanisi wa maabara na vipimo vyake hapo hata mimi sikua nimewaza kabisa... ni kweli kila mtu anadhaifu yake lakini JPM Ni kiongozi makini ambae husimamamia sana anachokiamini!!

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Kabisa lockdown watu zimewashinda maambukizi yamekuwa mengi na watu tuko lock down nchi nyingi zishafikua sehemu za biashara

 

[Oii]

CCM wanaleta propaganda na siasa kwa janga, wanataka kupumbaza raiya baada ya kufanya makosa., hiyo imekua kawaida ya serikali yenyu, philosophy ya North Korea hiyo, baada ya aibu ni kutafuta umaarufu, afadhali Madagaskar wametoa dawa yao.,

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North korea is doing fine so far

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[Oii]

And yours are smarter than all presidential washauris of the whole world???

Na hizo nchi zilizokosoa hizi machine za kupima corona kabla ya magufuli unaziongeleaje, unaleta comment ya mtubaki jelejeza, is he smarter than washauri wa rais?

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[hydrogen]

Hata angekwambia amerudia Mara 70 bado ungetafuta hoja zako zisizo na maana tu, Mimi sikushangai kwasababu watu wenye chembechembe za firauni bado wapo wao kila kitu lazima wabishe tu wao ndo wanajiona wako sawa Sasa inawezekana ukawa wewe ndio kileee kizaz Cha firauni maana alikuwa mbish Kama wewe kila anachoambia anaona uchawi tu huo hakiwezekan kitu Kama hiko Sasa subir waje kukuambia wamarekani kua hivi vifaa havina ubora ndio utakuja kukubali

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Kawaida ya watu wasio na hoja za msingi wana matusi mengi sana. Ukiniquote atleast tafuta kitu kinachofanania na hoja,
Am way above that cheap talk

 

[Chesty]

Ulisoma shule au uliishia " Madrassat" pale Chakechake?

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Jibu hoja acha kashfa, hiyo ni dalili ya kuishiwa hoja

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[Chesty]

Kilichonishangaza Mimi mpaka Leo ni kwanini toka vifaa vya upimaji vya msaada toka China (Jack MA) vifike ndio maambukizi yakalipuka tuu ghafla..
Mmhh kuna kitu hatukijui nahisi...


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Mlipuko wa maambukizi unatokana na misongamano makanisani, misikitini, kwenye bar, sokoni, to mention only a few.

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[Chamoto]

Mtu mwenye akili timamu kisayansi huwezi kuhoji ubora wa majibu ya vipimo vya maabara ya binadamu kwa kutumia sampuli za mbuzi, kwale, mapapai nk. Hizo zitakuwa n akili za kiuwendawazimu.

Badala ya ku-retest watu kutumia aina tofauti ya kipimo unaenda kutest mbuzi na mapapai!! Kweli?!

Hivi nyie mnajua kitu kinaitwa "control" au wenzetu hata tritration hamkuwahi fanya.

Kitu kimenifanya nikose kuamini Mapadlocks anachosema ni kuwa Karibia kila nchi ya Afrika ikiwemo Kenya, zinatumia reagents na swabs na testing kits za WHO. Sasa itakuwaje, kati ya nchi zaidi ya hamsini ambazo zinapewa testing kits na WHO ni nchi moja tu inacomplain. Kwanza nchi ambayo ni kichwa ngumu imekataa kufanya hata partial lockdown?

Hata mikopo ya China nchi nyingi za Afrika na Asia ziliingia mkenge isipokuwa Magu.[/QUOTE]

 

[mamaudaku]

Na hizo nchi zilizokosoa hizi machine za kupima corona kabla ya magufuli unaziongeleaje, unaleta comment ya mtubaki jelejeza, is he smarter than washauri wa rais?

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Kabisa watu hawajui hii vita ya corna ni kubwa sana kina Bill gate wanatumia watu iliwawatie hofu watu ili chanjo zao zikibalike na lengo litimie hali tz bado si mbaya sana ukitazama BBC swahili kila siku habari za tz corona wakati wao uingerza watu wanakufa watuache kwa kweli mungu anatulinda

 

[vulcan]

This guy is nuts by the way. Denial denial denial. Mara Corona haiwezi damu ya christo. Mara tuombe siku tatu. Yote yameshindwa sasa. Takwimu zikipanda ni Test Kits ziko na shida.

Sad day for TZ. What if its his people who cannot use the test kits correctly.

A drowning man

 

[TEMLO DA VINCA]

What you also fail to see is that Kenya, Uganda and Rwanda are more ideologically matched, this match will ultimately boil down to business and trade after the virus. What you have failed to see is that the action by Tanzania, Burundi and south sudan will bring a lot of suspicion over other aspects of relations in the eac.ie If only three countries are willing to be honest with each other and form a unified response to the virus, it means the other countries are by nature uncooperative.

Kwenye mahusiano ya nchi na nchi mambo hayapo hivyo Anko.

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[Chamoto]

what if its his people who cannot use the test kits correctly..

How about testing kits being bad? He mentioned all these possibilities and more some, you'd have known if you'd watched the whole video. Stop be enticed by few sound bites, watch the whole video.

 

[Willard Jonnes]

Sector ya afya kuna uzembe mkubwa wanafanya kwa vile tu wao matokeo yao mara nyingi husema mungu hakupenda yani errors kwao ni nyingi mno na they dont care, tofauti na fields zingine kama engineering au science ambazo accurate output ziñamata sana

 

[Tlg]

Wewe unashangaza sana, Geza Ulole amekuwekea "links" nyingi sana zenye kuonyesha nchi nyingi tena nchi zenye maendeleo makubwa ya sayansi zikisema kwamba hizo "test kits" sio nzuri, bado unasema ni nchi moja pekee inalalamika, unataka tukupime mkojo ili kichwa chako kiwe sawa?

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Mkuu mnachanganya madesa hapa.maabara kuu haitumii rapid test.Hizo links mnazoleta za rapid test ni irrelevant kabisa.Hebu kuweni making basi.Rapid test kits ndo zimekuwa na reliabity ndo mno sio vipimo vya maabara timamu.

 

[Mbolabilika]

Wewe kumwona Rais anaropoka sio matusi ? Ikiwa kakwambia walipeleka sampuli kwa Siri ili kufanyia uchunguzi vifaa vya kupimia unasema anaropoka kwahiyo wewe ndio mwenye akili yeye hana. Au mzazi wako akikwambia nimefanyia uchunguzi Jambo hili ninamashaka nalo utamwambia mzazi wako mda mwengine anatakiwa ajiangalie maneno ya kuongea ?.maana Sasa ww unajiona una akili kuliko yeye Sasa hivyo pia matusi Kama hujui nini maana ya matuc kitendo Cha mtu kumtoa akili tu tayar matuc

kawaida ya watu wasio na hoja za msingi wana matusi mengi sana. Ukiniquote atleast tafuta kitu kinachofanania na hoja,
Am way above that cheap talk

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[Don YF]

Tz citizens are alive to this debate

This is from a Tz chat page


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John Pombe Magufuli, the President of Tanzania, just announced that they fed samples from sheep, goats, and even pawpaw and oil ya gari on Covid-19 testing kits and some tested positive. His conclusion is that there must be something wrong with the test kits or there's some warfare against Tanzanians. LOL.

This is ludicrous. It is so stupid it hurts. Medical tests are built and validated for sensitivity and specificity. Sensitivity means - is it able to detect? Specificity means - is it detecting what one wants it to detect?

Validation and calibration is based on existing knowledge of the pathogen you want to test for. How you start testing the presence of the virus in fenesi juice or oil ya gari I don't know.

That Magufuli, a person with a PhD in Chemistry, is wondering how some of the goat or pawpaw samples came back positive is simply laughable.

But he is so deep into his shit, he can't even realize that what he is calling positives and negatives, are what are known as false positives (FP) and false negatives (FN) and the main cause of FP and FN is, hmmmmm you know it, interference with the sample.

You remember in your high school chemistry lessons how you had to treat specimens in a specific way with specific reagents? And you only had to take specific samples to specific machines? Yes?

There is a reason why you must follow strict procedures when taking the sample, medium for transporting the sample, preparing the sample, and feeding the sample in the test instrument.

You cannot test for malaria in the same way you test TB in the same way you test HIV in the same way you test diabetes using the same piece of diagnostic equipment.

But when you start feeding goat and sheep samples and pawpaw juice into a test kit, ostensibly, calibrated for Covid-19, you are exhibiting extreme levels of insanity.

I hope Tanzanians are not so stupid.

So basically, Magufuli and team, made all possible errors that can be made in a lab, and then were so surprised that they reported positive and negative results (essentially false positives and false negatives).

Science is about process, procedures, protocols. Reproducibility which is at the heart of scientific research means that you must follow procedures. Methodology is King.

Bad samples will give you false results (which can be false negative or false positive). Type I and type II errors.

The clinical laboratory cycle has different cycle phases and different types of possible errors at eash stage. See screenshot below from “Patient Safety in Emergency Medicine” by Pat Croskerry and Karen S. Cosby (2009).

They basically made errors in the pre-analytic, analytic, and post-analytic phases and then acted sooooo surprised at their results and ludicrous interpretations.

Actually, the purpose of diagnostic guidelines is to prevent these errors.

Somebody close to Magufuli should have told him to put aside that political juice and use his very good doctorate in Chemistry brain. But I bet they are all afraid of him.


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[hydrogen]

Wewe kumwona Rais anaropoka sio matusi ? Ikiwa kakwambia walipeleka sampuli kwa Siri ili kufanyia uchunguzi vifaa vya kupimia unasema anaropoka kwahiyo wewe ndio mwenye akili yeye hana. Au mzazi wako akikwambia nimefanyia uchunguzi Jambo hili ninamashaka nalo utamwambia mzazi wako mda mwengine anatakiwa ajiangalie maneno ya kuongea ?.maana Sasa ww unajiona una akili kuliko yeye Sasa hivyo pia matusi Kama hujui nini maana ya matuc kitendo Cha mtu kumtoa akili tu tayar matuc

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Maana ya kuropoka ni kuongea kwa hisia bila kuzingatia facts, sio tusi!
Sasa Facts zipi alizotumia? Kwenda kupima mbuzi, oil, mapapai na fenes?!!
Huwezi ukaweka misumari kwenye mashine ya kusaga mahindi ukasema haisagi vizuri. alafu ukabeba hiyo misumari kama evidence!

 

[vulcan]

How about testing kits being bad? He mentioned all these possibilities and more some, you'd have known if you'd watched the whole video. Stop be enticed by few sound bites, watch the whole video.

I have watched the whole of it. Magufuli just wants to divert attention from his failed policies... a very good script here.