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So after all the arguments na matusi...
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Well, if Kenyans shunned the TBL initial public offering then it can't be said that Kenyans are restricted at Dar Stock Exchange, you said they shunned it!By AGGREY MUTAMBO amutambo@ke.nationmedia.com AND EMMANUEL WERE ewere@ke.nationmedia.com
Kenyans also face restrictions on investing at the Dar es Salaam Stock Exchange. In Tanzania, the maximum participation by foreign investors in listed companies is capped at 60 per cent, 75 per cent in Kenya but 100 per cent in Uganda and Rwanda.
Kenyans shunned the recent Tanzania Breweries share sale, held in December…
If Tanzanians took up 55% of the shares you can't say "East Africans investors got a paltry 0.04%" because 55 is bigger than 0.04! Hahahaaa…. Grotesquely incompetent East African journalistsTanzanians took up 55.24 per cent of the 59 million breweries shares that were on offer, foreign investors were allocated 44.72 per cent of the shares, while East African investors got a paltry 0.04 per cent of the shares.
If member states only"proposed" then we don't know, and you haven't said, whether they ever agreed that this is effectively the new law now! To say "But the reality is that the internal laws contradict" is incredibly ridiculous, you said they just proposed!!… In addition, the Customs Union, that started in 2005, proposed to unify tax laws and eliminate other restrictions to trade.
But the reality is that each of these countries has their own internal laws that seem to contradict or slow down the implementation of these protocols.
So, it is illegal because it is a regulation in the ministry of health of one member state? Who told you that it is illegal? You are not making any sense dear Editor at the crummy DAILY NATION, I mean the press around here is a travesty.Those without the certificate have to part with $50 and then receive yellow fever vaccination.
But the Tanzanian Minister told reporters the rule was also illegal because it was only a regulation in the country's Ministry of Health.
Kama kawaida Watanzania tulienda kichwa kichwa tuu. Issue ya kufunga mpaka haina tofauti kabisa na maamuzi mengine mengi ya ajabu ajabu tunayoyashughudia humu nchini kila wakati. Can you imagine our minister saying that the levy was illegal in Tanzania, lakini pamoja na hayo we still went on to impose it? Who directed the levy to be imposed? Wawezakuta ni watu wa pale pale border walikuwa wanatafuta pa kula. Ridiculous.
A decision by Tanzanian border officials to levy Sh17,000 (US$200) for vehicles ferrying goods from Kenya has been disowned by their government.
The country's minister for East African Cooperation, Mr Samuel Sitta, told reporters in Namanga that local authorities had increased the charges behind the government's back.
"My government was not involved at all. Really, we cannot allow something which is against the law (Common Market Protocol). Local authorities have no powers to interfere with international matters," said Mr Sitta on Wednesday.
But he did not say whether the Tanzanian authorities would intervene to overturn the decision.
The matter came up on Wednesday when ministers responsible for East Africa affairs from Kenya and Tanzania toured the border area to promote regional integration.
The Kenyan delegation was led by EA Affairs Minister Musa Sirma and included officials responsible for marketing the integration.
It is the latest in a series of complaints by Kenyan businessmen operating across the border.
Kenyan businesses have complained that their goods are subjected to further testing by Tanzania's Bureau of Standards despite meeting the standards set by the East African community and the Kenya Bureau of Standards.
But Kenyan businesses seem to be heading south in spite of the restrictions, with data gathered by the Kenya National Bureau of Statistics indicating that exports to Tanzania grew by 65.6 per cent from Sh3.6 billion in October to Sh5.9 billion in November.
Kenyans also face restrictions on investing at the Dar es Salaam Stock Exchange. In Tanzania, the maximum participation by foreign investors in listed companies is capped at 60 per cent, 75 per cent in Kenya but 100 per cent in Uganda and Rwanda.
Kenyans shunned the recent Tanzania Breweries share sale, held in December, with the results announced in early January showing East Africans got a small allocation.
Tanzanians took up 55.24 per cent of the 59 million breweries shares that were on offer, foreign investors were allocated 44.72 per cent of the shares, while East African investors got a paltry 0.04 per cent of the shares.
Kenyans also have to pay for a Tanzanian work permit.
Mr Sitta said the decision to increase the vehicle levy had been a creation of local authorities on the Kenya-Tanzania border, and not a government directive.
Last week, the Kenya-Tanzania border in Taveta was temporarily closed after motorists protested the increment of vehicle levy by Tanzanian authorities.
They had imposed a levy of Sh17,000 ($200) for vehicles entering the country.
Despite talks by authorities from the two countries on Saturday, the Nation found out that motorists were still being charged Sh17,000 by yesterday. Those who refused had their vehicles impounded at Tanzania's border point of Holili.
Most of those who parted with the money were ferrying perishable goods.
Under the Common Market Protocol that took effect in July 2010, the community countries had to progressively allow free movement of people, labour and goods. In addition, the Customs Union, that started in 2005, proposed to unify tax laws and eliminate other restrictions to trade.
But the reality is that each of these countries has their own internal laws that seem to contradict or slow down the implementation of these protocols. In Tanzania for instance, it has also been a rule to have a yellow fever certificate before one is allowed within its borders.
Those without the certificate have to part with $50 and then receive yellow fever vaccination.
But the Tanzanian Minister told reporters the rule was also illegal because it was only a regulation in the country's Ministry of Health.
"We followed it up and discovered that it is really being levied under a bylaw under the Ministry of Health. This really cannot be permitted. They have taken their time but we are seeing the end of this bothersome practice."
On Wednesday, Kenyan and Tanzanian officials sought to iron out the differences.
Mr Sirma and Mr Sitta held talks with local administrators from both sides before holding a joint rally in Tanzania.
Travel documents
They later pledged to convince their respective governments to allow the administrators issue temporary travel documents to border residents.
After the rally, the two told journalists that they would instruct local authorities to only levy fees approved by the EAC ministerial council.
Kajiado County Council in which Namanga (Kenya) belongs, is said to be charging transit trucks Sh2,000 for "passing through its territory."
"Local authorities are not allowed to charge transit vehicles any fees. It is illegal," said Mr Sirma .
However, there was little indication that the $200 fee at Holili would be removed. Mr Sitta did not announce that the levy be stopped or reduced. Instead, he said he would visit the border point some time next month to assess the situation
The problem is we have some individuals here that have no idea the kind of jungle tactics these dudes in Kenya apply! Worse enough their Nationalism is beyond acceptable level instigated by their non ethical adhered media! But be not worried since many Tanzanians r aware of their outdated tactics and they will fail and this block will collapse mark my words! While they fist-chest themselves of what they r doing, behind the scene the same tactics is used to divide themselves towards their coming election! So their segregation cum victimization sins go deeper inside their borders to tribalism that eats them!Our Northern neighbors are good at playing the victim card and whining. Two days ago, I posted an article from the East African newspaper which narrated in detail obstacles faced by Tanzanians doing wheat business in Kenya. These people are constantly being harassed by Kenyans officials; and worst of all, hefty tariffs are being levied on their productss contraly to common market protocol. The reason Kenya's government has turned a blind eye on this issue is to protect local companies. I am sure patriotic Kenyans of the likes of Mzalendo read my post but decided not to contribute anything because it doesn't fit the narrative, they want to depict about Tanzania.
I remember there was a time South African's companies were complaining about protectionism hurdles they encountered in Kenya while trying to penetrate the Kenya's market. In addition, most Kenyans have blind patriotism and are more than likely going to buy Kenya-made products. Eventually, South African companies decided to leave that market. To make a long story short, it is a daunting task for a foreign company to run business in Kenya
MY TAKE
As i said the US$ 200 was a retaliation of something here we read kajiado county was charhing ksh 2000 per truck! so what is wrong for local authority at namanga (Tanzania's side) charging US$ 200 an equivalent of Ksh 17,000 per truck?
The problem is we have some individuals here that have no idea the kind of jungle tactics these dudes in Kenya apply! Worse enough their Nationalism is beyond acceptable level instigated by their non ethical adhered media! But be not worried since many Tanzanians r aware of their outdated tactics and they will fail and this block will collapse mark my words! While they fist-chest themselves of what they r doing, behind the scene the same tactics is used to divide themselves towards their coming election! So their segregation cum victimization sins go deeper inside their borders to tribalism that eats them!
None of them should ever try to tell u ati land should be free! To them that scenario is practical cause they have no land left since their politicians+foreigners own nearly 3/4 of Kenya and to prove my point these owners prefer to commercialize that land that's why u find Kenya is the 4th exporter of tea while having food deficiency! Moreover none of them should lie to u ati jobs to all East Africans since for those of us who have been in Kenya we know how hard is to get job in Kenya even for a Kenyan who is a non Kikuyu! So pls fellow Tanzanians don't back down...
Our Northern neighbors are good at playing the victim card and whining. Two days ago, I posted an article from the East African newspaper which narrated in detail obstacles faced by Tanzanians doing wheat business in Kenya. These people are constantly being harassed by Kenyans officials; and worst of all, hefty tariffs are being levied on their productss contraly to common market protocol. The reason Kenya's government has turned a blind eye on this issue is to protect local companies. I am sure patriotic Kenyans of the likes of Mzalendo read my post but decided not to contribute anything because it doesn't fit the narrative, they want to depict about Tanzania.
Who told you the issue has been resolved?And what is our government doing about it? Kenyan were levied $200 and their government acted quiclky to resolve the issue, but how our government?
Tanzania disowns levy on Kenyan vehicles
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MY TAKE
As i said the US$ 200 was a retaliation of something here we read kajiado county was charhing ksh 2000 per truck! so what is wrong for local authority at namanga (Tanzania's side) charging US$ 200 an equivalent of Ksh 17,000 per truck?
Tanzania disowns levy on Kenyan vehicles *- News*|nation.co.ke
So, the question one may ask is, even if it were to retaliate, 17000/= is way above the mark as compared to 2000/=. If it was to be a scheme that was to benefit a handful of individuals, it has now been destroyed. This exposes your government's weakness when it comes issues of governance, even though one might suggest i.e. devolved power at work.
So, the question one may ask is, even if it were to retaliate, 17000/= is way above the mark as compared to 2000/=. If it was to be a scheme that was to benefit a handful of individuals, it has now been destroyed. This exposes your government's weakness when it comes issues of governance, even though one might suggest i.e. devolved power at work.
Mzalendo,
I don't understand the point you are trying to make, so this issue exposes weakness of governance solely on Tanzania's side and not Kenya. This is plainly preposterious cause your neighbors to the south were initially provoked. As usual, you didn't say anything about Kaijado county's decision to impose that ridiculous fee. And why your effective government didn't act on time and resolve that quagmire secondary to that county stupid decision. Is that what you call good governance?