Kesi ya Uhaini: Leo Mahakamani 03 September, Shahidi wa tatu Aman Sam Golugwa anaendelea kutoa ushahidi wake

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Tayari Mshtakiwa wa kesi ya Uhaini Mh Tundu Lissu amefikishwa mahakamani.

Kaa tayari kufuatilia kile kinachoendelea mahakama kuu ya Tanzania, Mahakama ndogo jijini Dar es Salaam

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Soma: Kesi ya Uhaini: John Mnyika aendelea kumtetea Tundu Lissu Mahakamani. Maswali ya Dodoso kutoka Jamhuri - 2, Septemba 2026

Leo September 3, 2026, Jana tuliishia Sehemu ya 337


Sehemu ya 338.

Majaji wanaingia.

Mheshimiwa Lissu nae ameingia.

Ajuaye Zengeli anawatambulisha mawakili wa Serikali na Jaji anasema Shahidi apande kizimbani.

Shahidi Amani Sam Golugwa anapanda kizimbani.

Majaji wanateta na kusikilizana pale juu. Shahidi kiapo chako kinaendelea.

Golugwa: Sawa Ahsante anatikisa na kichwa kukubali.

Mhe. Lissu: Waeleze Majaji kwa ufahamu wako taarifa ya watazamaji wa SADC ilisemaje kuhusu huo uchaguzi?

Golugwa: Uchaguzi wa Tanzania haujakidhi vigezo vya chaguzi za kidemokrasia. Pia kulikuwa na vitisho na uonevu kwa viongozi wa vyama vya upinzani kwahiyo mazingira ya kiushindani hayakuwa sawa. Na tatu, hakukuwa na uwazi katika mchakato mzima wa Uchaguzi. Nne, kulikuwa na udanganyifu katika mchakato wa uchaguzi, vurugu siku ya uchaguzi na hivyo uchaguzi wa Tanzania umekosa uhalali wa kuitwa uchaguzi.Mhe. Lissu: Watazamaji wa Jumuiya ya Ulaya (EU) walisemaje kuhusu uchaguzi huo?

Golugwa: Walisema wamesikitishwa na matukio ya vurugu yaliyotokea, kuuwawa kwa watu walisikitishwa nako sana. Uchaguzi wa Tanzania uligubikwa na watu kutekwa kabla ya uchaguzi, kupotezwa na mazingira ya uchaguzi hayakuwa yenye ushindani ulio sawa. Na mazingira yalionekana kupendelea Chama cha Mapinduzi. Na mwisho kutokana na udanganyifu na vurugu zilizotokea uchaguzi wa Tanzania waliona haukuwa huru na haukuwa na uwazi.

Mhe. Lissu: Waeleze Majaji watizamaji wa jumuiya ya madola (Common wealth) walisemaje?

Golugwa: Niliona kauli ya Katibu wa Jumuiya ya Madola niliyoisoma alisema amesikitishwa na amehuzunishwa kwa vurugu na kauli zilizotokea na mauaji yaliyotokea na hivyo jumuiya ya madola itafuatilia kwa karibu kuhusu tukio hili.

Mhe. Lissu: Matokeo ya Uchaguzi wa mwaka jana yakikuwaje ya U Rais?

Golugwa: Mgombea wa Urais wa Chama Cha Mapinduzi alitangazwa amepata kura Milioni 31.6 na asilimia 98.6 na wagombea wengine kwa ujumla waligawana kipande kidogo kilichobaki yaani 2.4.

Mhe. Lissu: Ya ubunge yalikuwaje

Golugwa: Sifahamu

Mhe. Lissu: Udiwani yalikuwaje?

Golugwa: Sifahamu

Mhe.Lissu: Thabu Mbeki Fiundation walisemaje kuhusu matokeo ya Uchaguzi huo wa Tanzania?

Golugwa: Thabu Mbeki foundation walisema mambo manne. 1. Uchaguzi wa Tanzania uko chini ya viwango na miongozo ya chaguzi za Kidemokrasia kama zilivyowekwa kwa mujibu wa SADC na umoja wa Afrika. 2. Wapiga kura hawakupata uhuru wao wa kidemokrasia wa kupiga kura kwasababu ya vurugu zilizokuwa zimetokea. 3. Matokeo ya Urais na Ubunge yaliyotangazwa sio ya kweli na hayana uhalisi wa utashi wa watu kwenda kupiga kura. 4. Tanzania hakuna serikali yenye uhalali na hii iliyopo imejiweka kwa kutumia mabavu na udanganyifu kupitia uchaguzi usiokuwa halali.

Mhe. Lissu: Sasa shahidi katika watizamaji wote hao uliowataja. Waeleze majaji kwa ujumla wao walizungumziaje matukio ya mauaji ya wananchi kwenye uchaguzi huo?

Golugwa: Kwa ujumla wake waangalizi walisema vyombo vya dola kwa maana ya askari Polisi waliwapiga risasi waandamanaji na waliwazuia waangalizi kutimiza wajibu wao kwa kuwapiga na kuwanyang'anya vifaa vyao. Mhe. Lissu: Kuhusu mauaji ya wananchi ndio swali langu?

Golugwa: Walisema vyombo vya dola wamehusika katika mauaji ya waandamanaji na hivyo walitaka kuwepo na uwajibikaji kwa waliohusika na masuala hayo.

Mhe. Lissu: Huu uchaguzi ulisimamiwa na kuendeshwa na chombo kinachoitwaje?

Golugwa: Chombo kinachoitwa Tume Huru ya Uchaguzi.

Mhe. Lissu: Viongozi wa hiyo tume wanapatikanaje?

Golugwa: Waheshimiwa Majaji wanapatikana kwa kuteuliwa na Rais wa Jamhuri ya Muungano wa Tanzania.

Mhe. Lissu: Mkurugenzi je wa hiyo tume anapatikanaje?

Golugwa: Anateuliwa na Rais wa Jamhuri ya Muungano wa Tanzania.?



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Mhe. Lissu anaendelea kumuongoza Shahidi wake ambae ni Naibu Katibu Mkuu wa CHADEMA upande wa Tanganyika Amani Golugwa.

Mhe. Lissu: Returning officers wanapatikanaje? Wale wanaosimamia kwenye majimbo.

Golugwa: Ni watumishi wa umma na wanapatikana kwa kuteuliwa na Rais wa Jamhuri ya Muungano wa Tanzania.

Mhe. Lissu: Wasimamizi wa vituo ni akina nani?

Golugwa: Ni watumishi wa umma na ni watendaji kwenye ngazi ya Kata na Vijiji na mitaa. Na wote wanafanya kazi kwa niaba ya Rais wa Jamhuri ya Muungano wa Tanzania na wanateuliwa na tume huru ya Uchaguzi.

Mhe. Lissu: Hao watizamaji wote uliosema walisemaje kuhusu Kukamatwa kwangu na kufunguliwa kesi ya Uhaini?

Golugwa: Walisikitishwa kwa kukamatwa kwa kiongozi wa Chama kikuu cha siasa na wakasema kesi hii ni ya uongo na hawakuona mazingira ya uhaini kwa kile walichokisikia katika maneno ya Mh. Tundu Lissu na kuzitaka na kuzisihi mamlaka zimuachilie huru bkla masharti yoyote.Mhe. Lissu: Waeleze Majaji Baraza la Haki za Binadamu la UN limesemaje juu ya kesi hii?

Golugwa: Limesema kukamatwa kwa Lissu haikuwa halali na kitendo cha kukamatwa kwake kulimnyima uhuru wa kujieleza, na shtaka alilogunguliwa ni katili lenye lengo la kumuumiza na hivyo kutaka mamlaka zimwachilie sababu kesi hii ni ya kisiasa kabisa bila kupepesa macho. Commonwealth Ministerial Action Group walisemaje kuhusu kesi hii?

Golugwa: Kesi hii inadhihirisha uminywaji wa Demokrasia, kesi hii ni ya kisiasa, ni batili na Tundu Lissu aachiliwe bila masharti yoyote.

Mhe. Lissu: Turudi kwenye mkutano wa 3/4/2025 uliosababisha yote haya. Jana ulisema Mkutano huu uliandaliwa na Sekretarieti ya chama Makao Makuu kutokana na wazo la Katibu Mkuu kukutana na watia nia, sasa tuanzie hapo. Waeleze majaji, watu wengine waliohudhuria mkutano huuGolugwa: Watu wengine ni pamoja na viongozi wa chama ambao hawakuwa watia nia na waandishi wa habari ambao walikuwepo ndani ya ukumbi wa mkutano.

Mhe. Lissu: Ukisema viongozi wa chama ambao hawakuwa watia nia unamaana gani? Golugwa: viongozi wa chama kwenye ngazi ya Kanda, Mkoa na Jimbo

Mhe. Lissu: Waeleze majaji kama viongozi wa chama ni hao tu uliowatajaGolugwa: Walikuwepo pia viongozi wakuu wa chama nikiwemo mimi mwenyewe na viongozi wa Sekretarieti.

Mhe. Lissu: ukisema Viongozi wakuu una maana gani:

Golugwa: Mwenyekiti wa Chama Taifa, Makamu Mwenyekiti Bara na Zanzibar, Katibu Mkuu, Naibu Katibu Mkuu Bara na Zanzibar wote walikuwepo

Mhe. Lissu: Waeleze majaji, watu wote hao waliokuwepo walipataje taarifa za uwepo wa mkutano huu?

Katuga anasimama, shahidi wa facts ni Golugwa anapaswa aongee yeye hilo swali sio sahihi

Mhezz Lissu: Pingamizi la Katuga halina mashiko kwasababu Mkutano wowote lazima uwe na taarifa

Katuga: wengine huwa wanaota kuwa kuna mkutano

Mhe. Lissu: Nyie mawakili wa Serikali ndo huwa mnaota kwa visomo vyenu vya gizani sio mimi Lissu

Majaji: Twendelee

Mhe. Lissu Golugwa anaendelea: mimi ndio niliwapigia simu viongozi wakuu wafuatao: Mkt Tundu Lissu, Makamu Mwenyekiti Bara John Heche, Makamu Mwenyekiti Zanzibar Said Mzee na Naibu Katibu Mkuu Zanzibar na niliwaambiwa wanatakiwa kuwepo. Wengine waliokuwepo ukumbini walialikwa na Mkurugenzi wa Mawasiliano na Uenezi wa Chama Brenda Rupia ambaye ni Mjumbe wa Sekretarieti.

Mhe. Lissu: Waeleze Majaji, maandalizi na hii mialiko wakati inafanyika mimi nilikuwa wapi?

Golugwa: Waheshimiwa Majaji wakati haya yanafanyika Lissu alikuwa kwenye operation ya Chama ya No Reforms No Election kanda ya Nyasa Shahidi Golugwa anaheshima sana kwa majaji kila akianza kujibu swali anasema WAHESHIMIWA MAJAJI

Mhe. Lissu: Waeleze majaji kama mimi Lissu nilishiriki kuandaa mkutano na kutuma mialiko kwa washiriki

Golugwa: Tundu Lissu hakushiriki kuanzia kwenye maandalizi na hakuwasiliana na hata kutuma mialiko kwa watia nia.



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Mhe. Lissu anaendelea kumuongoza Shahidi wake ambae ni Naibu Katibu Mkuu wa CHADEMA upande wa Tanganyika Amani Golugwa.

Mhe. Lissu: waeleze majaji ushiriki wangu katika kualika waandishi wa habari

Golugwa: Tundu Lissu hakualika waandishi wa habari kabisa hivyo Jamhuri wakidai kuwa ulialika ni uongo kabisa

Mhe. Lissu: Mashtaka yanadai kuwa mimi niliitisha mkutano huu, wewe unasemaje?

Golugwa: Madai hayo ni ya uongo kabisa, hayana nia njema na Lissu, ni upotoshaji kabisa kwasababu Lissu hakushiriki

Mhe. Lissu: Waeleze majaji kuhusu uwepo wa waandishi wa habari Golugwa: waandishi kibao walikuwepo wa online TV, Magazeti, Radio

Mhe. Lissu: Waeleze majaji vyombo vya habari vilivyokuwepo

Golugwa: Nakumbuka uwepo wa Clouds TV, Jambo Online TV, the Chanzo Online TV, ITV, waandishi wa gazeti la Mwananchi na wengine kibao tu.

Mhe. Lissu: waeleze majaji hao waandishi walialikwa na nani kwenye mkutano?

Golugwa: walialikwa na Brenda Rupia, Mkurugenzi wa Mawasiliano na Uenezi ambaye ni Mjumbe wa Sekretarieti

Mhe. Lissu: Waeleze majaji uwepo wa masharti yoyote kwenye mwaliko wa waandishi wa habari

Golugwa: hakukuwa na masharti yoyote na hata kwenye mkutano ukumbini haukuwa na masharti yoyote kabisa walifanya kazi yao kwa uhuru wao wa vyombo vya habari

Mhe.Lissu: Waeleze majaji uwepo wa maelekezo yoyote kutoka kwangu au kiongozi yoyote wa chama aliyekuwepo juu ya namna ya kufanya kazi yao

Golugwa: Mimi ndio msimamizi wa itifaki na ndio niliendesha mkutano huo hivyo Lissu wala kiongozi yoyote wa chama hakutoa maelekezo yoyote juu ya namna ya waandishi wa habari kufanya kazi yao.

Mhe. Lissu: Waeleze majaji uwepo wa matangazo ya moja kwa moja au yasiyo ya moja kwa moja kwenye mkutano huo

Golugwa: Kwakuwa waandishi walikuwepo wa Online TV na wa Magazeti, wapo waliorusha live kama online TV

Mhe. Lissu: Watajie majaji vyombo vilivyorusha live mkutano huo

Golugwa: Jambo TV, the Chanzo TV na wengine kibao

Mhe. Lissu: Mimi nimeshtakiwa kuwa nilichapisha hayo maneno kwenye Jambo TV, wewe unasemaje?

Golugwa: Huo ni uongo wa mchana kweupe kabisa, inawezekanaje Lissu achapishwe kwenye Jambo TV wakati sio Mwandishi na hafanyi kazi Jambo TV?

Jaji Nduguru: Shahidi umechomekea na swali la kuwa inawezekanaje kwenye jibu lako Watu kicheko😂😂😂😂

Mhe. Lissu: Machapisho yanayorushwa kwenye chombo cha habari ni mali ya nani?

Golugwa: kwa uelewa wa kawaida kabisa hiyo inakuwa ni mali ya mwenyechombo.

Mhe. Lissu: nani anakuwa na haki ya kufanya chochote kwenye contents za habari kwa mfano hiyo hotuba ya mkutano waliyochukua waandishi?

Golugwa: mwenye haki ya kufanya chochote ni mmiliki wa chombo cha habari.

Mhe. Lissu: nimekaa gerezani zaidi ya mwaka na miezi 5 sasa kwa mashtaka kuwa nilitengeneza nia ya kutenda uhaini dhidi ya serikali na hiyo nia niliidhihirisha kwa kuchapisha maneno kwenye Jambo TV, (Lissu anarejea maneno ya kwenye mashtaka ya kukinukisha), waeleze majaji uhusika wangu kwenye kuchapisha maneno haya kwenye mtandao wa Jambo TV

Golugwa: hakuna uhusika wowote wa Tundu Lissu wa yeye kuchapisha kwenye Jambo TV hivyo mashtaka ni ya uongo kabisa

Mhe. Lissu: kwa ufaham wako maneno hayo yalichapishwa na nani Jambo TV ?

Golugwa: Yalichapishwa na mwandishi wa Jambo TV ambaye alikuwa amealikwa kwahiyo Lissu hahusiki kabisa na uchapishaji

Mhe. Lissu: tuhuma za kuwa mimi ndio nilichapisha haya maneno Jambo TV wewe unaisemeaje?

Golugwa: Ni uongo kabisa, nia yake ni kumtesa tu Tundu Lissu, kudhorotesha kabisa shughuli za chama chetu , hii tuhuma ni ya uongo tena uongo mbichi kabisa.

Watu wamecheka sana jibu la shahidi eti uongo mbichi😂😂😂😂



Sehemu ya 341

Mhe. Lissu anaendelea kumuongoza Shahidi wake ambae ni Naibu Katibu Mkuu wa CHADEMA upande wa Tanganyika Amani Golugwa.

Mhe. Lissu: kuna ushahidi umeletwa mahakamani eti nilichapisha hayo maneno Jambo TV nikiwa na nia ya kuitishia serikali ya JMT, je kwenye maneno ya hati ya mashtaka, kuna neno Serikali ya Jamhuri ya Muungano wa Tanzania?

Golugwa: Mimi nilikuwepo siku unatoa hotuba, hukutaja kabisa neno Serikali na kwenye hayo maneno yaliyopo kwenye hati ya mashtaka hakuna neno Serikali ya Jamhuri ya Muungano

Mhe. Lissu: waeleze majaji uwepo wa neno Rais wa Jamhuri ya Muungano wa Tanzania

Golugwa: hilo neno halipo kabisa Mhe. Lissu: Waeleze majaji uwepo wa maneno Makamu wa Rais wa JMT

Golugwa: Waheshimiwa majaji hilo neno halipoMhe. Lissu: waeleze majaji uwepo wa maneno Waziri Mkuu wa JMT

Golugwa: Hilo neno nalo halipo

Mhe. Lissu: waeleze majaji uwepo wa neno Baraza la Mawaziri
Golugwa: Hilo neno halipo

Mhe. Lissu: waeleze majaji uwepo wa maneno Mwanasheria Mkuu wa Serikali ya JMT au Mkurugenzi wa Mashtaka nchini

Golugwa: hayo maneno hayapo

Mhe. Lissu: sasa shahidi kuna ushahidi umeletwa hapa eti nilitishia vyombo vya dola, sasa waeleze majaji uwepo wa maneno Jeshi la Polisi, Jeshi la Wananchi wa Tanzania, Jeshi la Mgambo, Idara ya Usalama wa Taifa na Ujasusi, Jeshi la Magereza au jeshi lolote la nchi hiiGolugwa: Maneno yote hayo hayapo kabisa waheshimiwa majaji.

Mhe. Lissu: Waeleze majaji uwepo wa neno Serikali katika hati ya mashtaka ambayo nimekusomea

Golugwa: Neno Serikali haipo

Mhe. Lissu: Hii tuhuma wewe unaionaje?

Golugwa: ni tuhuma ya uongo, ya kutunga sio ya kweli, imetengenezwa kwa nia ya kisiasa ili kurudisha nyuma jitihada za Tundu Lissu kwenye kudai mabadiliko kwenye mifumo ya kiuchaguzii

Mhe. Lissu: Mtu akisema akisema msimamo huu unaashiria uasi anakuwa ametenda kosa gani?

Golugwa: kwa ufahamu wangu hakuna kosa lolote anakuwa ametenda katika nchi hii Bara na Visiwani.

Mhe. Lissu: Kwa ufahamu wako, mtu akisema tutauvuruga uchaguzi anakuwa ametenda kosa gani nchi hii? Golugwa: kwa ufaham wangu hakuna kosa lolote atakuwa ametenda katika nchi hii

Mhe. Lissu: mtu akisema tutauzuia uchaguzi huu anakuwa ametenda kosa gani katika nchi hii?

Golugwa: Mtu akisema tutauzuia uchaguzi anakuwa hajatenda kosa lolote katika nchi hii

Mhe. Lissu: waeleze majaji, kwa ufahamu wako wa masuala ya uchaguzi uwepo wa sheria inayosema kuwa ni kosa mtu kusema atazuia au kuvuruga uchaguzi

Golugwa: kwa ufahamu wangu hakuna sheria inayosema kuwa ni kosa kuzuia au kuvuruga uchaguzi

Mhe. Lissu: kuna ushahidi uliletwa hapa wa kamusi kutafisiri neno uasi kuwa ni kitendo cha kuvunja sheria, waeleze majaji, kitendo cha kuvunja sheria kama ni kosa la uhaini

Golugwa: kwa ufahamu wangu kitendo cha kuvunja sheria sio kosa la uhaini

Mhe. Lissu: Tumeletewa kamusi inatafsiri uasi kuwa ni kupinga mamlaka, taasisi, serikali au Taasisi je waelezo majaji kupinga serikali au taasisi kama ni kitendo cha uhainiKitendo cha kupinga serikali au taasisi ni kosa kisheria?

Golugwa: kwa ufahamu wangu kupinga serikali au taasisi sio kosa kisheria

Mhe. Lissu: Waeleze Majaji kwa ufahamu wako maana ya neno kukinukisha

Golugwa: waheshimiwa majaji kwa tafisiri ya kawaida tu kukinukisha ni kukifanya kitu kitoe harufu, harufu ya marashi yaani unyunyu, kusababisha harufu itokeWatu wanacheka sana hapo kwenye unyunyu😂😂😂😂😂

Mhe. Lissu: mtu akisema tunaenda kufanya kitu kitoe unyunyu, yanatishiaje serikali ya JMT?

Golugwa: maneno hayo hayawezi kuitishia kabisa maneno ya kutoa harufu nzuuuri au uvundo, kwakweli sioni kabisa mahali serikali inapoweza kutishika

Mhe. Lissu: Serikali ya JMT inatishikaje na maneno tutauzuia uchaguzi, tutauvuruga uchaguzi? ambayo kwa ushahidi wako sio makosa kwa mujibu wa sheria

Golugwa: Sioni kwa namna gani Serikali inaweza kutishika kabisa



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Mhe. Lissu anaendelea kumuongoza Shahidi wake ambae ni Naibu Katibu Mkuu wa CHADEMA upande wa Tanganyika Amani Golugwa.

Mhe. Lissu: Waeleze majaji kwa ufahamu wako, Serikali ya JMT na vyombo vyake vyote inatishikaje na maneno msimamo huu unaashiria uasi ambayo kwa ushahidi wako umesema sio kosa

Golugwa: waheshimiwa majaji sioni namna yoyote serikali kutishika kwa maneno kuwa msimamo huu unaashiria uasi

Mhe. Lissu: Waeleze majaji Serikali ya JMT na manguvu yake yote inatishikaje na maneno tutahamasisha uasi

Golugwa: Sioni ni kwa namna gani serikali na manguvu yake yote inatishikaje na maneno tutahamasisha uasi.

Mhe. Lissu: kuna maneno yalizungumzwa hapa kuwa Oktoba 29 kuna vurugu zilifanyika, mali zilichomwa, vituo vya mwendokasi, kuchoma vituo vya kupigia kura, sasa nakuuliza maswali:

Mhe. Lissu: Waeleze majaji uwepo wa maneno tunaensa kuchoma vituo vya kupigia kura kwenye hati ya mashtaka

Golugwa: Maneno kuchoma vituo vya kupigia kura hayapo kwenye hati ya mashtaka

Mhe. Lissu: kwenye hati ya mashtaka kuna maneno tunaenda kuchoma vituo vya mwendokasi?

Golugwa: hakuna maneno tunaenda kuchoma vituo vya kupigia kura

Mhe. Lissu: waeleze majaji uwepo wa maneno kuwa tunaenda kupiga au kukata vidole watu wanaoenda kupiga kura

Golugwa: hakuna maneno tunaenda kupiga au kukata vidole wale wanaoenda kupiga kura.

Mhe. Lissu: waeleze majaji, uwepo wa maneno kuwa tunaensa kuharibu mali, magari, na vitu mbalimbali vya watu binafsi

Golugwa; maneno hayo hakuna kwenye hati ya mashtaka

Mhe. Lissu: waeleze majaji uwepo wa maneno kuwa tunaenda kuua, au kusababisha watu kufa siku ya uchaguzi kwenye hati ya mashtaka

Golugwa: maneno kuwa tunaenda kuua au kusababisha watu kufa siku ya uchaguzi hayapo kwenye hati ya mashtaka

Mhe. Lissu: waeleze majaji kama umewahi kusikia hotuba ya jaji chande

Golugwa: ndio niliwahi kumsikiliza akitoa hotuba ya Tume ya Vurugu za Oktoba 29, 2025

Mhe. Lissu: waeleze majaji endapo ulimsikia Jaji Mstaafu Chande kuhusu idadi ya watu kuuwawa

Golugwa: nilismikiliza alisema idadi ya watu waliouwawa ni 518

Mhe. Lissu: waeleze Majaji, kwa ufahamu wako kama ulimsikia Jaji Chande akisema waliosababisha hivyo vifo

Golugwa: sikumbuki kama jaji Chande aliwataja waliosababisha vifo

Mhe. Lissu: waeleze majaji sababu alizotoa Jaji Chande zilizosabisha vurugu za Oktoba 29, 2025

Golugwa: alisema ni madai ya Katiba Mpya, manung’uniko ya muda mrefu ambayo wamedai na hayajatatuliwa

Mhe. Lissu: Kwa wewe na wajumbe wa sekretarieti ya chama kuandaa mkutano wa 3/4/2025 waeleze majaji endapo kuna hatua zozote mlichukuliwa na Jeshi la Polisi kwa kuandaa na kuwezesha mkutano huo

Golugwa: hakuna hatua yoyote iliyochukuliwa dhidi yangu au wenzangu katika Sekretariaeti na Jeshi la Polisi kwa sisi kuandaa mkutano huo

Mhe. Lissu: Waeleze majaji iwapo ulisikia maneno yaliyopp kwenye hati ya mashtaka kama niliyatamka kwenye mkutano wa 3/4/2025

Golugwa: Niliyasikia hayo maneno ukitamka kwenye mkutano

Mhe. Lissu: Waeleze hatua ulizochukua kwenda kuripoti maneno hayo katika jeshi la polisi

Golugwa: Sikuripoti popote

Mhe. Lissu: waeleze majaji mtu mwingine yeyote aliyekuwepo kwenye mkutano aliyechukua hatua kwenda kuripoti katika Jeshi la Polisi maneno hayo

Golugwa: hakuna mtu aliyeenda kuripoti

Mhe. Lissu: waeleze majaji ufahamu wako juu ya uwepo wa kosa linaitwa kunyamazia uhaini

Golugwa: sifahamu uwepo wa kosa hilo

Mhe. Lissu: waeleze majaji iwapo wewe au watu wengine wote waliokuwepo kwenye mkutano waliosikia maneno hayo kama wamefunguliwa shtaka la kunyamazia uhaini

Golugwa: hakuna mtu aliyefunguliwa kosa la kunyamazia uhaini



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Mhe. Lissu anaendelea kumuongoza Shahidi wake ambae ni Naibu Katibu Mkuu wa CHADEMA upande wa Tanganyika Amani Golugwa.

Mhe. Lissu: shahidi ulisema Jambo TV na Chanzo TV walirusha mkutano huo live, waeleze majaji kwa ufahamu wako uwepo wa hatua zozote za kuwafungulia Jambo TV na Chanzo TV mashtaka ya kuwezesha uhaini

Golugwa: kwa ufaham wangu sijasikia wala sijaona hatua zozote dhidi ya waandishi wa habari wa Jambo TV na Chanzo TV wakichukuliwa hatua kwa kosa la kuwezesha uhaini au kusambaza maudhui ya mkutano huo

Mhe. Lissu: Waeleze majaji kama inawezekana mtu mmoja kufanya kosa la uhaini la kuitishia Serikali yote ya JMT

Golugwa: kwa ufahamu wangu sioni uwezekano wa mtu mmoja peke yake kuitishia serikali, kupanga uhaini, kutekeleza uhaini, kwa ufahamu wangu haiwezekani

Mhe. Lissu: Waeleze majaji iwapo maneno matupu ya mdomo yanaweza kutengeneza kosa la uhaini

Golugwa: kwa ufahamu wangu maneno matupu hayawezi kutengeneza kosa la uhaini.

Mhe. Lissu: Mkutano wa 3/4/2025 ulichukua masaa mangapi?

Golugwa: kama Masaa matatu hivi

Mhe. Lissu: waeleze majaji iwapo Jambo TV na Chanzo TV walirusha masaa yote matatu

Golugwa: Hawakurusha masaa yote matatu kwasababu baadae tuliendelea na kikao

Mhe. Lissu: waeleze majaji Jambo TV na Chanzo TV walirusha kwa muda gani unaoukumbuka

Golugwa: Nakumbuka lisaa moja na nusu hadi masaa mawili

Mhe. Lissu: ngoja nikusomee maneno yaliyopo kwenye hati ya mashtaka, waeleze majaii muda niliotumia kusoma hayo maneno

Golugwa: umetumia sekunde tu kama 26 hivi haifiki hata dakika moja

Mhe. Lissu: waeleze majaji kwa ujumla wake hoja nilizozungumza

Golugwa: Tundu Lissu alizungumza kuhusu ubovu wa mfumo wa uchaguzi, alielezea matatizo ya uchaguzi yaliyopo katika Katiba yanayoathiri chaguzi zetu, kwenye Sheria, Kanuni na Miongozo, alieleza kuhusiana na Tume mbalimbali kama ya Jaji Nyalali, Tume ya Jaji Kisanga, Tume ya Warioba jinsi ambavyo zilieleza mapungufu yaliyopo katika mifumo yetu ya uchaguzi na mapendekezo ya Tume zote hizi kuhusiana na nini kifanyike ili kurekebisha mfumo wa uchaguzi. Mhe. Lissu alizungumza pia kuhusu taarifa mbalimbali za waangalizi wa uchaguzi kuanzia mwaka 1995 wote wa ndani wa kimataifa, REDET, TEMCO na alifafanua na kuelezea maoni ya waangalizi wa ndani kuhusiana na haja ya kuwa na mabadiliko ili kuwa na chaguzi huru na zinazoaminika.

Mhe. Lissu alifafanua taarifa kwa maana ya ripoti za waangalizi wa nje kwa chaguzi zote kuanzia 1995 akiwataja, SADC, Marekani, Jumuiya ya Ulaya, Umoja wa Afrika madudu yote waliyoyaona na mapendekezo yao juu ya haja ya kuwa na mabadiliko ya kweli kwenye mifumo ya uchaguzi Mhe. Lissu pia alizungumzia kuhusu uzoefu wa chama chetu kwenye chaguzi za Serikali za Mitaa wa Mwaka 2019, Uchaguzi Mkuu wa 2020, uzoefu wa chaguzi ndogo za Udiwani na Ubunge zilizotokea kati ya mwaka 2015 hadi 2019 na kuendelea. Mhe. Lissu pia alizungumzia uchaguzi wa Serikali za Mitaa wa mwaka 2024 kuhusu uzoefu wa matukio ya hovyo na kinyama ambayo wagombea wetu wa Chadema tuliyapitia.

Hayo matukio ya hovyo yalikuwa yanafanywa na wasimamizi wa uchaguzi na wasaidizi wao ambayo ni pamoja na kuwaengua wagombea wa chadema kihuni kabisa, wasimamizi wa uchaguzi walikuwa wanakataa kuchukua fomu za wagombea, matukio ya mauaji

Wakili wa Serikali Ajuaye amesimama na kusema muda sasa ni wa break tunaomba ahirisho hadi 14:30

Mhe. Lissu: Ni sawa waheshimiwa majaji shahidi nae akapate maji kidogo

Jaji Nduguru: Shauri linaahirishwa hadi saa nane na nusu

Inapigwa High Cooouuurt

Majaji wanatoka.

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Mahakama Imerejea Inapigwa High Coooouuurt

Majaji wanaingia Mahakamani

Wakili wa Serikali Ajuaye anasimama anasema mawakili wa Serikali tuko vilevile

Jaji Nduguru anamuuliza Mhe. Lissu uko tayari?

Mhe. Lissu: Niko niko tayari

Jaji Nduguru twendelee

Mhe. Lissu: Wakati tumenda Break ulikuwa unaelezea kuhusu hotuba ya 3/4/2025 naomba uendelee

Golugwa: Mwenyekiti Tundu Lissu alielezea pia matukio ya mauaji katika chaguzi za nchi yetu mfano wakati wa Uchaguzi wa Serikali za Mitaa mwaka 2024 Mgombea wa Chadema aliuwawa kwa kupigwa risasi , mwingine wakati wa marudio ya uchaguzi mdogo kinondoni,

Mhe. Lissu: Baada ya kuelezea mauaji katika chaguzi zetu nilisema nini?

Golugwa: Ulisema kuliko kupitia mabalaa haya yote, ya watu kuuwawa kwenye chaguzi, vurugu na fujo tupo tayari uchaguzi uahirishwe na usogezwe mbele ili kama taifa tuweze kushughulikia matatizo haya yaliyopo kwenye mifumo yetu ya uchaguzi. Tundu Lissu pia alisema tunamaanisha, tupo tayari na sheria zetu zinaruhusu uchaguzi kusogezwa mbele.

Mhe. Lissu: Jambo lingine nililolizungumzia naomba endelea kuelezea

Golugwa: Jambo lingine Mhe. Lissu alisema ambaye anawaza kugombea uchaguzi huu asahau, aende akafanye kazi ya kuwaelimisha wapiga kura wake juu ya msimamo wetu wa No Reforms No Election ili watanzania wote watuunge mkono. Jambo lingine Mhe. Lissu alisema hata yeye alikuwa anafikiria kugombea Urais ila hatagombea na kuwa upo tayari uchaguzi usogezwe mbele na utakwenda kuwaelimisha watanzania nchi nzima

Mhe. Lissu: Kwa mazungumzo yangu yote ya siku hiyo ambayo umeyasema hapa, mtu akikuletea maneno machache ambayo yapo kwenye hati ya mashtaka wewe unasemaje?

Golugwa: Mimi naona kabisa ni ya kutengeneza na yana nia ovu dhid yako, nia ya kukuonea wewe na chama chetu ili tusifanye siasa tunazoruhusiwa kisheria.

Mhe. Lissu: Waeleze majaji kwa ufahamu wako maneno ya hotuba yangu yote kama kulikuwa na uwepo wa nia ya kutenda uhaini

Golugwa: Kwa ufaham wangu hakuna nia kabisa ya uhaini au kuitishia serikali

Mhe. Lissu: Waeleze majaji kwa kumbukumbu zako hayo maneno niliyozungumza 3/4/2025 kama ilikuwa ni mara yako ya kwanza kuyasikia

Golugwa: Kwa kweli umeshayasema mara nyingi sana ikiwemo Mkutano na wahariri wa vyombo vya habari ulioongozwa na Deodatus Balile y wa Jukwaa la Wahariri Tanzania (TEF), ulisema pia ulipokutana na viongozi wa dini ya kiislamu Shura ya Maimamu mbele ya kiongozi Shikhe Ponda Issa Ponda, na mimi nilikuwepo na nilisikia maneno hayo ukiyasema. Golugwa anaendelea kusema kuwa Mhe. Lissu pia ulisema maneno hayo tulipokutana na Kituo cha Sheria na Haki za Binadmau mbele ya wakili Fulgence Massawe, nilikuwepo na uliyasema.

Vilevile uliyasema mbele ya Waziri Mkuu mstaafu Jaji Joseph Sinde Warioba ofisini kwake Masaki na uliyasema maneno hayo nilikuwepo na niliyasikia na Mzee Warioba alituunga mkono kabisa

Mhe.Lissu: Waeleze majaji hizo ziara zote na kusema maneno yote hayo, je nilikuwa nasambaza nia ya kutenda uhaini?

Golugwa: haikuwa kusambaza uhaini ila ilikuwa ni kuwaelimisha msimamo wetu ili watuunge mkono ili mabadiliko yatokee kabla ya uchaguzi kufanyika , wote walituelewa isipokuwa Serikali

Mhe.Lissu: Baada ya tarehe 09/4/2025 mimi kukamatwa, waeleze majaji mambo gani yalitokea kwa chama na nyie viongozi mliobakia

Golugwa: Chama kilifunguliwa kesi na kuzuiwa kufanya kazi za chama, viongozi tulikamatwa na kutuhumiwa kwa makosa ya kubambikiza kama ugaidi n.k

Mhe. Lissu: wewe kilikutokea nini binafsi?

Golugwa: Tarehe 13/05/2025 nilikuwa na safari ya kwenda Ubeligiji kukiwakilisha chama kwenye mkutano wa vyama vya kidemokrasia duniani (IDU)

Katuga anasimama: Mhe Jaji shahidi anachosema ni kinyume cha kifungu cha 156 cha Sheria ya Ushahidi kwasababu hauhusiani na kesi, shahidi atakuja pengine kutoa mifano kama alioa au hakuoa


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Mhe. Lissu anaendelea kumuongoza Shahidi wake ambae ni Naibu Katibu Mkuu wa CHADEMA upande wa Tanganyika Amani Golugwa.

Mhe. Lissu: Shahidi endelea kuhusu kilichokutokea 13/05/2025

Golugwa: Tarehe 13/05/2025 nilipokuwa Airport wakati tayari nimeshapewa boarding pass, nikiwa kwa afisa uhamiaji nilifuatwa na watu wawili wakasema twende ofsiini tuzungumze, wakati tunaelekea ofsini kwenye kibaraza walisema niko chini ya ulinzi, mmoja hakuwa na kitambulisho na alikuwa amevaa nguo za kiraia ndio alisema niko chini ya ulinzi, waliniingiza kwenye chumba na kuniacha. Kabla ya hapo walitaka simu zangu na huyu ambaye hakuwa na unifomu wala kitambulisho alizichukua zote.

Waheshimiwa majaji baada ya dakika kama 5 nikiwa kwenye chumba walikuja watu zaidi ya watano mmoja akiwa na bunduki, walifungua mlango wakapekua begi langu na wakachukua karasi mbili ambazo zilikuwa na hotuba ambayo nilipanga kwenda kuzungumza kule kwenye mkutano. Waheshimiwa majaji pamoja na kwamba niliwauliza kwanini wamenikamata, kwanini wananipekua, kosa langu nini?

Hawakunijibu kabisa, walinishusha underground pale airport , mwendo ulikuwa wa kasi sana, walinitukana sana “naomba nisiyaseme maneno haya mbele ya mahakama tukufu” mmoja aoiyekuwa na bunduki aliniwekea kwenye sikio la kulia na akasema “nyie wajinga ndio mnapanga safari zenu kwenda kuichafua nchi huko nje, sasa leo ndio utaelewa”.

Sikupigwa ila nililazimishwa kutembea , naomba majaji mniangalie niwaonyeshe Amani Golugwa anawaonyesha Majaji jinsi alivyoning’inizwa kwa kushikwa maeneo ya maungoni miguu ikawa haifiki chini ameonyesha kwa umaridadi kabisaWaheshimiwa majaji baada ya hapo niliingizwa kwenye gari nikazungushwa kwa zaidi ya masaa mawili Airport na baadae nikapelekwa Stakishari Police station, niliwahoji kwanini mnanileta huku?

Wakasema wewe ndio Lissu huwa anakutuma kwenda kuisema serikali huko nje na kupewa hela chafu kutoka nje hivyo wewe cybercrimes inakuhusu na money laundering.

Golugwa anaendelea kusema ilipofika saa nane usiku watu 10 walikuja kunichukua na walikuwa wote wapya nikawauliza mnanipeleka wapi wakawa hawajui na wakawa wananishangaa, walikuwa na radio call wakawa wanaongea wanasema tuko na mwewe, tulielekea kushoto kutoka Stakishari mimi nikiwa nimelala chini kwenye gari, baada ya muda tulifika Central Police Station Dar es Salaam na yule aliyekuwa anaongea na radio call akamwambia ZCO Mafwele kuwa mzigo huo.

Waheshimiwa majaji sikuwa sawa wakati huo kutokana na magumu niliyopitia na ZCO aliniongelesha kwa lugha nzuri ingawa mimi nilikuwa katika hali ngumu sana maana nilikuwa sielewi hatima yangu na nilipofikishwa tu wakasema cybercrimes na money laundering.

Waheshimiwa majaji niliulizwa kuhusu safari zangu mbili za huko nyuma za Mombasa na waliniambia kuwa nimekuwa nasafiri na kurudi bila kufuata taratibu na sheria za nchi, walinitaka nitoe maelezo, nilihoji sana na sikuwa tayari kutoa maelezo lakini mwishoni nilitoa maelezo na nikatakiwa nilete uthibitisho wa safari ya Mombasa ambayo nilisafiri na familia na wazazi wangu na nilipeleka uthibitisho kwa kupeleka nakala za passpoti.

Mhe. Lissu: mambo yote haya yaliishia wapi?

Golugwa: nilidhaminiwa na viongozi wa chama na nikaambiwa nenda nyumbani kwa amani. Hivyo safari ya kikazi ilivurugika na sikufanikiwa kusafiri.

Mhe. Lissu: waeleze kuhusu ukweli wa tuhuma hizo kama ni kweli au sio kweli

Golugwa; tuhuma hizo sio za kweli

Mhe. Lissu: waeleze majaji kama kuna sheria inazuia wewe kusafiri kwenda nje ya Nchi

Golugwa: Hakuna sheria



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Mhe. Lissu anaendelea kumuongoza Shahidi wake ambae ni Naibu Katibu Mkuu wa CHADEMA upande wa Tanganyika Amani Golugwa.

Mhe. Lissu: Wakili wa Serikali Katuga anapenda kutoa mifano ya hovyo kabisa yani, kama shahidi alioa na akaingiliwa na Polisi ni ushahidi unaohusiana na kesi. Ushahidi wangu na ushahidi wa Mnyika unahusu kampeni ya uonevu wa Serikali dhidi yetu na Chama chetu.

Kesi hii ni ya uonevu, ni ya uongo ni ya kisiasa na Serikali wamekuwa wanakamata watu na Viongozi wetu bila kufuata sheria, bila kuwafungulia mashtaka kwa nia ya kudhoofisha Chama chetu. Kifungu sahihi ni cha 7 , 8 , 9 cha Sheria ya Ushahidi.

Hawa mawakili wa Serikali hawataki Jeshi la Polisi la Serikali wanayoitumikia liwe exposed, uchafu wao wanaoufanya kunyanyasa watu hawataki uwe exposed, sisi hatutakubali maana tumenyanyaswa sana mimi binafsi, Mbowe, Mnyika, Dr. Slaa na viongozi wengine.

Katuga: Anachokisema Lissu ndio maana ya kukinukisha sasa ; sisi tunaomba maelekezo ya Mahakama ila kama ushahidi huo ni wa muhimu kwa upande wa utetezi hatuna shida kwasababu tutapata nafasi ya kuuliza maswali ya dodoso.

Jaji Ndunguru anashauriana na majaji wenzake ameanza na Jaji Kareyamaha leo, kaenda kwa Jaji Kiwonde ngoja tuona, ila wamechukua dakika nyingi sana ni zaidi ya 10. Jaji Nduguru baada ya majadiliano ya muda mrefu anasema tumesikia hizo hoja, tunaelekeza tuwe focused, wajibu wa prosecution ni kuthibitisha kesi, Mshtakiwa hana wajibu wa kuthibitisha utakatifu wake, shida ni kwamba upande wa utetezi huwa hawana statement kwamba labda ina guide upande wa utetezi. Jamhuri mna haki ya kufanya cross examination na hiyo ndio fair trial.

Mhe. Lissu: Waeleze majaji tukio jingine la kukamatwa kwako.

Golugwa: Tarehe 08/11/2025 nikiwa nyumbani kwa wazazi wangu Arusha nilikamatwa na Polisi na nilipohoji kwanini wananikamata wakanitajia makosa matatu: ugaidi, kula njama ya kuharibu miundombinu ya umma na mali ya umma, kula njama ya kuwapiga askari wa vyombo vya dola, eti mimi huyu nipange kupiga askari? Shahidi anaongea kwa hisia na kujiuliza swali

Mhe. Lissu: Nini kilitokea baada ya hapo?

Golugwa: Nilikaa Central Police Arusha kama masaa mawili na baadae nilisafirishwa hadi Oysterbay Police Dar es Salaam majira ya saa moja usiku, nilikataa kutoa maelezo hivyo niliwekwa lock up. Ilipofika saa nane usiku tena nilitolewa nikaambiwa kutoa maelezo, sikutoa maelezo na niliwaambia aje ZCO Mafwele ambaye nimefahamiana nae akiwa Arusha aje aseme kwa anavyonifaham kama mimi huyu Golugwa ninaweza kuwa gaidi.

Waheshimiwa Majaji kesho yake ZCO Mafwele alikuja akanishawishi nitoe maelezo na wakili Hekima alikuja nae akanishawishi nitoe maelezo, sikutoa maelezo na niliowaona na wenzangu hapo Lema, Boni Yai na John Heche. Tuliambiwa nendeni na kesho yake tulitakiwa kwenda kwa ZCO Mafwele Central Police station na baada ya kuripoti tuliambiwa nendeni na ikawa hivyo hadi leo

Mhe. Lissu: Waeleze Majaji hatua gani Jeshi la Polisi limeshachukua hadi leo

Golugwa: hakuna hatua yoyote mpaka leo

Mhe. Lissu: Waeleze majaji hii kamatakamata inamaanisha nini kwako

Golugwa: nia yake ilikuwa kunitisha mimi na viongozi wenzangu ili tusifanye kazi yetu ya chama.

Mhe. Lissu: Waeleze ufahamu wako kuhusu matukio ya mimi kukamatwa ukichilia tukio hili lililoniweka gerezani

Golugwa: Mwaka 2012 nakumbuka tulikamatwa wote na kumwagiwa maji ya washawasha na kipigo Arusha, nakumbuka mwaka 2024 tulikamatwa Mbeya ulipoenda kwenye Maadhimisho ya siku ya vijana, tukio jingine lilitokea Arusha ulipokuja kumtetea Lema nakumbuka ulikamatwa, ulipotoa maoni yako kuhusu utawala wa Magufuli pia ulikamatwa uliposema Magufuli ni Dikteta Uchwara.


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Mhe. Lissu anaendelea kumuongoza Shahidi wake ambae ni Naibu Katibu Mkuu wa CHADEMA upande wa Tanganyika Amani Golugwa.

Mhe. Lissu: Katika Matukio yote ya mimi kukamatwa uliyoyasema, waeleze majaji kumbukumbu zako za mimi kutiwa hatiani kwa kosa lolote nililowahi kukamatwa nalo

Golugwa: sina kumbukumbu yoyote ya wewe kutiwa hatiani kwa matukio yote uliyokamatwa wala kushtakiwa nayo

Mhe, Lissu: Umenifahamu kwa muda gani?

Golugwa: Nimekufahamu kwa miaka 20

Mhe. Lissu: leo nashtakiwa kwa uhaini, kosa kubwa kuliko yote nchi hii, waeleze majaji kwa ufahamu wako uwezekano wa mimi kuwa mhanini kwenye nchi yangu

Golugwa: Waheshimiwa majaji kwa namna ambavyo namfahamu Lissu kwa hiyo miaka 20, ni mtu mwema sana na sioni uwezekano wa Tundu Lissu kuwa mhainiHapa shahidi ametiririka sana mpaka Majaji wamefurahi.

Jaji Nduguru amesema CV yake Lissu ameshaitoa hapa Mahakamani. Watu wamefurahi sana hizi dakika za jiooooni kabisa.

Mhe. Lissu: Kwa shahidi huyu nimemaliza maswali

Wakili wa Serikali Ajuaye amesimama anasema hivi sasa ni saa kumi na moja kamili na kwa vile muda umeisha tunaomba ahirisho hadi kesho saa tatu kamili asubuhi kwaajili ya maswali ya Dodoso kwa shahidi huyu.

Jaji Nduguru: Shauri linaahirishwa hadi kesho saa tatu kamili asubuhi.

Inapigwa High CoouuuuuurtMajaji wanatoka nje.

Mhe. Lissu anapack makablasha yake huku akiagana na Viongozi, Wanachama na Wafuasi wa CHADEMA waliokuja Mahakamani siku ya Leo.

 

[Lyapizo]

Tayari Mshtakiwa wa kesi ya Uhaini Mh Tundu Lissu amefikishwa mahakamani.

Kaa tayari kufuatilia kile kinachoendelea mahakama kuu ya Tanzania, Mahakama ndogo jijini Dar es Salaam

Tupo pamoja mwamba

 

[Tate Mkuu]

Nipo siti ya mbele kabisa hapa nikitaka kushuhudia mawakili wa serikali wakitikisa masikio yao kwa madaha.

 

[Kiboko ya Mazwazwa]

Tayari Mshtakiwa wa kesi ya Uhaini Mh Tundu Lissu amefikishwa mahakamani.

Kaa tayari kufuatilia kile kinachoendelea mahakama kuu ya Tanzania, Mahakama ndogo jijini Dar es Salaam

nipo tayari mkuu

 

[Manyanza]

TUNDU LISSU ANAMHOJI SHAIDI WAKE AMANI GOLUGWA, LEO TAREHE 3.9.2026

SEHEMU YA 1.

MAHAKAMA IMEANZA.

1. Waheshimiwa Majaji wanaingia.

2. Lissu alitangulia kidogo na watu wakawa wanampigia makofi wakati wa kuingia.

3. Mawakili wa Serikali wapo tayari.

4. Shahidi Amani Sam Golugwa yupo ukumbini.

Karani wa Mahakama anajiandaa kusoma kesi, Criminal Session, kesi namba 19605 ya mwaka 2025.

Jamhuri dhidi ya Tundu Antipas Lissu.

Wakili wa Serikali Mkuu Ajuaye Zegeli anawatambulisha mawakili wenzake:

1. Nassoro Katuga – Wakili wa Serikali Mkuu.
2. Job Mrema – Wakili wa Serikali Mkuu.
3. Mwinuka – Wakili wa Serikali Mkuu.
4. Cuthbert Mbilinyi – Wakili wa Serikali.
5. Kasara – Wakili wa Serikali.
6. Tawabu Issa – Wakili wa Serikali Mwandamizi.

Kwa pamoja tunaiwakilisha Jamhuri.

Mshtakiwa yupo kizimbani.

Shauri linakuja kwa ajili ya utetezi, tupo tayari kuendelea.

Jaji Ndunguru: Mshtakiwa, upo tayari?

Lissu: Nipo tayari, Waheshimiwa Majaji.

Jaji Ndunguru: Shahidi, karibu uendelee na ushahidi wako. Nakukumbusha bado upo chini ya kiapo.

Amani Sam Golugwa anapanda kizimbani.

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Jaji Ndunguru: Tuendelee.

Lissu: Waheshimiwa Majaji, naomba nikumbushwe nilipoishia jana.

Jaji Ndunguru: Ulimrejesha kwenye watazamaji au waangalizi wa uchaguzi kutoka jumuiya zingine kama Umoja wa Afrika, SADC na Umoja wa Ulaya.

Kasema waangalizi wa Umoja wa Afrika walisema uchaguzi huo hauna viwango na hadhi ya kuitwa uchaguzi wa kidemokrasia.

Lissu: Waeleze Waheshimiwa Majaji, kwa ufahamu wako, taarifa ya uangalizi ya SADC ilisemaje kuhusu huo uchaguzi?

Amani Sam Golugwa: Kwanza, walisema kwamba uchaguzi wa Tanzania umeshindwa kukidhi viwango vya chaguzi za kidemokrasia.

Pili, kulikuwa na vitisho kwa viongozi wa vyama vya upinzani na hivyo mazingira ya kiushindani hayakuwa sawa.

Tatu, hapakuwa na uwazi katika mchakato mzima wa uchaguzi.

Nne, kulikuwa na udanganyifu katika mchakato wa uchaguzi, vurugu siku ya uchaguzi, na hivyo uchaguzi wa Tanzania umekosa uhalali wa kuitwa uchaguzi.

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Lissu: Waeleze Waheshimiwa Majaji, watazamaji wa uchaguzi huo wa Jumuiya ya Ulaya walisemaje juu ya uchaguzi huo?

Amani Sam Golugwa: Watazamaji wa Jumuiya ya Ulaya katika ripoti yao walisema:

Wamesikitishwa na matukio yaliyotokea siku ya uchaguzi na kupelekea kuvuruga uchaguzi.

Walisikitishwa na uharibifu wa mali.

Walisikitishwa na mitandao kuzimwa/mawasiliano kukatika.

Na walisikitishwa na taarifa za mauaji.

Pili, uchaguzi wa Tanzania uligubikwa na matukio yaliyotokea kabla ya uchaguzi ya watu kutekwa, kupotezwa na baadaye matukio ya mauaji yaliyotokea siku ya uchaguzi.

Tatu, mazingira ya uchaguzi hayakuwa yenye ushindani ulio sawa, na mazingira yalionekana kukipendelea Chama cha Mapinduzi.

Mwisho, kutokana na udanganyifu waliouona na vurugu zilizotokea, watazamaji wa Jumuiya ya Ulaya waliona uchaguzi wa Tanzania haukuwa huru na haukuwa na uwazi.

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[Manyanza]

TUNDU LISSU ANAMHOJI SHAIDI WAKE AMANI GOLUGWA MAHAKAMANI.

SEHEMU YA 2.

Lissu: Waeleze Waheshimiwa Majaji, watazamaji wa Jumuiya ya Madola walionaje uchaguzi huo?

Amani Sam Golugwa: Kwa ufahamu wangu, sikuiona taarifa ya Jumuiya ya Madola, ila nilisikia kauli ya Katibu wa Jumuiya ya Madola.

Lissu: Ilisemaje hiyo kauli?

Amani Sam Golugwa: Alisema kwamba amesikitishwa na amehuzunishwa kwa vurugu zilizotokea na mauaji yaliyotokea, na hivyo Jumuiya ya Madola itafuatilia kwa karibu kuhusu tukio hili.

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Lissu: Waeleze Waheshimiwa Majaji, matokeo ya uchaguzi wa mwaka jana yalikuwaje? Tuanze na Rais.

Amani Sam Golugwa: Waheshimiwa Majaji, kwa ufahamu wangu, matokeo ya Urais yaliyotangazwa, mgombea wa Urais wa Chama Cha Mapinduzi alitangazwa kupata kura milioni 31.6, sawa na asilimia 98.6.

Lissu: Na wagombea wengine walipata kiasi gani?

Amani Sam Golugwa: Waheshimiwa Majaji, hizo zilizobakia waligawana.

Lissu: Sawa, ni asilimia ngapi? Kama hukumbuki idadi.

Amani Sam Golugwa: Asilimia 2.4.

Lissu: Ya Ubunge yalikuwaje?

Amani Sam Golugwa: Sifahamu.

Lissu: Ya Udiwani yalikuwaje?

Amani Sam Golugwa: Sifahamu.

Lissu: Taasisi ya Thabo Mbeki ilisemaje kuhusu matokeo hayo ya uchaguzi?

Amani Sam Golugwa: Waheshimiwa Majaji, Thabo Mbeki Foundation katika taarifa yao walizungumza mambo manne.

La kwanza, uchaguzi wa Tanzania upo chini ya viwango na miongozo ya chaguzi za kidemokrasia kama zilizowekwa kwa mujibu wa SADC na Umoja wa Afrika.

Pili, wapiga kura hawakupata uhuru wa kutimiza wajibu wao wa kidemokrasia wa kupiga kura kwa sababu ya vurugu zilizokuwa zimetokea.

Tatu, matokeo ya Urais na Ubunge yaliyotangazwa siyo ya kweli na hayana uhalisi wa utashi wa watu kwenda kupiga kura.

Na nne, taarifa yao ilisema Tanzania hakuna Serikali yenye uhalali, na hii iliyopo imejiweka kwa kutumia mabavu na udanganyifu kupitia uchaguzi usiokuwa halali.

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[Bagamoyo]

03 September 2026
High Court of Tanzania
Kivukoni Front
Dar es Salaam, Tanzania

03 September 2026 HEARING SESSION : Treason (criminal) case no. 19605 / 2025 :

Republic versus Tundu Lissu.

Before the judges of High Court of Tanzania
Part 338.
The judges are ready for the day.

State Attorney Ajuya Bilishanga Zegeli introduces fellow lawyers and the Judge says Witness DW3 Amani Sam Golugwa can you plesse go to the dock.

The judges tell Witness DW3 , your you are still under the oath And now you can continue....

Amani Golugwa: Okay, thank you, he nods his head in agreement.


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yaq_Xwbxuhw

Hon. Lissu: Explain to the Judges, in your understanding, what did the SADC observers' report say about the election?

Amani Golugwa: The Tanzanian elections did not meet the criteria of a democratic elections. There were also threats and harassment of opposition party leaders, so the competitive environment was not fair. And third, there was no transparency in the entire election process. Fourth, there was fraud in the election process, violence on election day and therefore the Tanzanian election has lost the legitimacy to be called an election.

Hon. Lissu: What did the European Union (EU) observers say about the election?


Golugwa: They said they were saddened by the violent incidents that occurred, the killings of people were very saddened by it. The Tanzanian election was marred by people being kidnapped before the election, being lost and the electoral environment was not fair. And the environment seemed to favor the Revolutionary Party i.e CCM. And finally, due to the fraud and violence that occurred, they felt that the Tanzanian election was not free and transparent.

Hon. Lissu: Tell the Judges what the Commonwealth observers said?

Golugwa: I saw the statement of the Commonwealth Secretary general and I read it, she said was saddened by the violence that occurred and the killings that occurred and therefore the Commonwealth will closely monitor this incident.

Hon. Lissu: What was the results of last year's Presidential Election for the Union President?

Golugwa: The Chama Cha Mapinduzi CCM Presidential candidate was announced to have received 31.6 million votes and 98.6 percent and other candidates generally shared the remaining small piece, namely 2.4.

Hon. Lissu: How were the parliamentary elections results ?

Golugwa: I don't know

Hon. Lissu: How were the council elections?

Golugwa: I don't know

Hon. Lissu : What did the Thabo Mbeki Foundation say about the results of the Tanzanian Elections?

Golugwa: The Thabo Mbeki Foundation said four things. 1. The Tanzanian elections are below the standards and guidelines for democratic elections as set out in SADC and the African Union. 2. Voters did not exercise their democratic freedom to vote because of the violence that occurred. 3. The announced Presidential and Parliamentary results are not true and do not reflect the will of the people to vote. 4. There is no legitimate government in Tanzania and the current one has been established through the use of force and fraud through illegal elections.

Hon. Lissu: Now, witness DW3 from all those observers you mentioned. Explain to the judges in general what did they said about incidents of killings of citizens in the elections?

Golugwa: In general, the observers said that state agencies in the sense of police officers shot at protesters and prevented the observers from fulfilling their duties by beating them and seizing their equipment.

Hon. Lissu: My question is about the killings of citizens?

Golugwa: They said that state agencies were involved in the killing of protesters and therefore they wanted accountability for those involved in these issues.

Hon. Lissu: This election was supervised and conducted by what body is it called?

Golugwa: A body called the Independent Electoral Commission INEC.

Hon. Lissu: How are the leaders of that INEC commission found?

Golugwa: Honorable Judges, they are appointmented by the President of the United Republic of Tanzania.

Hon. Lissu: How is the director of that commission INEC found?

Golugwa: He is appointed by the President of the United Republic of Tanzania.?

Section 339

Hon. Lissu continues to lead his Witness DW3 who is the Deputy Secretary General of CHADEMA for Tanganyika Amani Sam Golugwa.


Hon. Lissu: How are the returning officers found? and Those who manage the constituencies.

Golugwa: They are public servants and appointed by the President of the United Republic of Tanzania.

Hon. Lissu: Who are the returning (polling station) officers?

Golugwa: They are public servants and are active at the Ward and Village and Street levels. And they all work on behalf of the President of the United Republic of Tanzania and are appointed by the Independent Electoral Commission INEC
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Hon. Lissu: What did all those observers you mentioned say about my arrest and the opening of a Treason case?

Golugwa: They were upset by the arrest of the leader of a major political party and said this case was false and they did not see the circumstances of treason from what they heard in the words of Hon. Tundu Lissu and demanded and urged the authorities to release him without any conditions.

Hon. Lissu: Tell the Judges what the UN Human Rights Council UNHCHR has said about this case?

Golugwa: It said that Lissu's arrest was unlawful and that the act of his arrest deprived him of his freedom of expression, and the charge against him is cruel and aimed at hurting him and thus demanding that the authorities release him because this case is completely political without blinking an eye.

HON Tundu Lissu : What did the Commonwealth Ministerial Action Group say about this case?

Golugwa: This case demonstrates the erosion of Democracy, this case is political, it is invalid and Tundu Lissu should be released without any conditions.

Hon. Lissu: Let's go back to the 3/4/2025 meeting that led to all this. Yesterday you said that this meeting was organized by the party Secretariat Headquarters due to the idea of the Secretary General to meet with interested parties, now let's start from there. Explain to the judges, other people who attended this meeting

Golugwa: Other people include party leaders who were not interested and journalists who were present in the meeting hall.
Hon. Lissu: When you say party leaders who were not interested, what do you mean? Golugwa: party leaders at the Zone, Regional and State levels

Hon. Tundu Lissu: Explain to the judges that party leaders are only those you mentioned

Golugwa: There were also senior party leaders including myself and the Secretariat leaders.

Hon. Lissu: What do you mean by senior leaders:

Golugwa: The Chairman of the CHADEMA Party, the Vice Chairman offor the Mainland and the vice chairman for Zanzibar, the Secretary General, the Deputy Secretary General of the Mainland and Zanzibar were all present


Hon. Lissu: Explain to the judges, how did all those people who were present get information about the existence of this meeting?

State attorney NASSORO Katuga stands up, [Objection your honors) the witness of the facts is DW3 Golugwa, he should speak for himself, that question is not correct

Hon. Lissu: Katuga's objection is baseless because any meeting must have information

NASSORO Katuga: others always dream that there is a meeting

Hon. Tundu Lissu: You the government lawyers are the ones who dream with your dark arts, not me Lissu
Judges DUNSTAN NDUNGURU : let Keep going

Golugwa continues: I was the one who called the following senior leaders: Mkt Tundu Lissu, Mainland Vice Chairman John Heche, Zanzibar Vice Chairman Said Mzee and the Deputy Secretary General Zanzibar and I was told they were required to be present. Others present in the hall were invited by the Party's Director of Communications and Publicity Brenda Rupia who is a member of the Secretariat.

Hon. Lissu: Explain to the Judges, the preparations and these invitations when they were taking place,and where was I?

Golugwa: Honorable Judges when these were taking place, Lissu was in the Party's No Reforms No Election operation touring the Nyasa zone.

Witness DW3 Golugwa is very respectful to the judges. Whenever he starts answering a question, he says HONORABLE JUDGES

Hon. Lissu: Explain to the judges that I, Lissu, participated in organizing the meeting and sending invitations to the participants

Golugwa: Tundu Lissu did not participate from the preparations and did not communicate or even send invitations to those interested.

Part 340

Hon. Lissu continues to lead his Witness who is the Deputy Secretary General of CHADEMA on the Tanganyika side Amani Golugwa.

Hon. Lissu: explain to the judges my participation in inviting journalists

Golugwa: Tundu Lissu did not invite journalists at all so the Republic claiming that you invited them is completely false

Hon. Lissu: The prosecution claims that I called this meeting, what do you say?

Golugwa: These claims are completely false, they do not have good intentions with Lissu, they are completely misleading because Lissu did not participate

Hon. Lissu: Explain to the judges about the presence of journalists

Golugwa: there were a lot of journalists from online TV, Newspapers, Radio

Hon. Lissu: Explain to the judges the media outlets that were present

Golugwa: I remember the presence of Clouds TV, Jambo Online TV, the Chanzo Online TV, ITV, journalists from the Mwananchi newspaper and only a few others.

Hon. Lissu: explain to the judges who invited those journalists to the meeting?

Golugwa: they were invited by Brenda Rupia, Director of Communications and Publicity who is a member of the Secretariat

Hon. Lissu: Explain to the judges the presence of any conditions on the invitation of journalists

Golugwa: there were no conditions and even at the meeting in the hall there were no conditions at all they did their work with their freedom of the media

Hon. Lissu: Explain to the judges the presence of any instructions from me or any party leader who was present on how to do their work

Golugwa: I am the protocol officer and I conducted the meeting so Lissu or any party leader did not give any instructions on how journalists should do their work.

Hon. Lissu: Explain to the judges the presence of live or indirect broadcasts at the meeting

Golugwa: Since the journalists were present from Online TV and from Newspapers, some of them broadcasted live as online TV

Hon. Lissu: Tell the judges the media that broadcasted the meeting live

Golugwa: Jambo TV, the Chanzo TV and others,

Hon. Lissu: I have been accused of publishing those words on Jambo TV, what do you say?

Golugwa: That is a blatant lie, how is it possible for Lissu to be published on Jambo TV when he is not a journalist and does not work for Jambo TV?

Judge Dunstan Nduguru: Witness, you have inserted the question, and how is it possible for me to your answer?

People laugh 😂😂😂😂😂

Hon. Lissu: Whose has the right and copy rights for the publication that is published on a media outlet?

Golugwa: In a very common understanding, that becomes the property of the media outlet.

Hon. Lissu: Who has the right to do anything with the content of the news, for example the speech of the meeting that the reporters took?

Golugwa: The one who has the right to do anything is the owner of the media outlet.

Hon. Lissu: I have been in prison for more than a year and 5 months now on charges that I created an intention to commit treason against the government and that intention I demonstrated by publishing words on Jambo TV, (Lissu refers to the words in the accusation of treason), explain to the judges my involvement in publishing these words on the Jambo TV network

Golugwa: there is no involvement of Tundu Lissu in publishing them on Jambo TV so the charges are completely false

Hon. Lissu: to your knowledge, who published those words on Jambo TV?

Golugwa: They were published by a Jambo TV reporter who was invited so Lissu is not involved in the publication

Hon. Lissu: what do you say about the allegations that I published these words on Jambo TV?

Golugwa: It is completely false, his intention is only to torture Tundu Lissu, to completely undermine the activities of our party, this accusation is completely false and a complete lie.

People have laughed a lot at the witness's answer, supposedly a complete lie 😂😂😂😂

Part 341

Hon. Lissu continues to lead his witness who is the Deputy Secretary General of CHADEMA for Tanganyika Amani Golugwa.

Hon. Lissu: there is evidence that has been brought to court that I published those words on Jambo TV with the intention of threatening the United Republic of Tanzania government, is there a word Government of the United Republic of Tanzania in the words of the indictment?

Golugwa : I was there the day you gave your speech, you did not mention the word Government at all and in the prosecutor's drafted chargesheet there is no word Government of the United Republic

Hon. Lissu: explain to the judges the presence of the word President of the United Republic of Tanzania

Golugwa: that word does not exist at all in the charge sheet

Hon. Lissu: Explain to the judges the presence of the words Vice President of the United Republic of Tanzania

Golugwa: Honorable judges, that word does not exist in the charge sheet

Hon. Lissu: explain to the judges the presence of the words Prime Minister of the United Republic of Tanzania

Golugwa: That word does not exist in the charge sheet

Hon. Lissu: explain to the judges the presence of the word cabinet (Council )of Ministers

Golugwa: That word does not exist in the charge sheet

Hon. Lissu: explain to the judges the presence of the words Attorney General of the United Republic of Tanzania Government or the Director of Public Prosecutions

Golugwa: those words do not exist on the charge sheet

Hon. Lissu: now the witness there is evidence that has been brought here that I threatened state agencies, now explain to the judges the presence of the words Police Force, Tanzania People's Army, Rangers Force, National Security and Intelligence Department, Prisons Force or any army of this countryGolugwa: All those words do not exist at all, honorable judges.

Hon. Lissu: Explain to the judges the presence of the word Government in the indictment that I have read to you

Golugwa: The word Government does not exist in the charge sheet

A charge sheet is a formal legal document created by the police or law enforcement agencies that lists the specific criminal accusations against a suspect

Hon. Lissu: How do you view this accusation?

Golugwa: it is a false accusation, fabricated and not true, it has been made with political motives to set back Tundu Lissu's efforts to demand changes in the electoral systems.

Hon. Lissu: What mistake has someone made when they say that this position indicates rebellion?

Golugwa: to my knowledge, there is no mistake in this country on the mainland and the islands.
Hon. Lissu: In your knowledge, what mistake has someone made in this country when they say we will disrupt the election? Golugwa: to my knowledge, there is no mistake in this country.

Hon. Lissu: What mistake has someone made in this country when they say we will prevent this election?

Golugwa: A person who
says we will prevent the election has not committed any mistake in this country.

Hon. Lissu: Explain to the judges, in your knowledge of election issues, the existence of a law that states that it is a mistake for someone to say that they will prevent or disrupt the election.

Golugwa: to my knowledge, there is no law that states that it is a mistake to prevent or disrupt the election

. Hon. Lissu: there is evidence brought here of a dictionary that defines the word rebellion as an act of breaking the law, explain to the judges, the act of breaking the law as an offense of treason

Golugwa: to my understanding the act of breaking the law is not an offense of treason

Hon. Lissu: We have brought a dictionary that defines rebellion as opposing an authority, institution, government or institution, should the judges explain opposing the government or institution as an act of treason? The act of opposing the government or institution is a legal offense?

Golugwa: to my understanding opposing the government or institution is not a legal offense

Hon. Lissu: Explain to the Judges, according to your understanding, the meaning of the word to smell

Golugwa: honorable judges, in a simple interpretation, to smell is to feel something oozing smell, the spray of perfume, that is, to cause a smell

People are laughing a lot at the smell 😂😂😂😂😂

Hon. Lissu: someone says we are going to make something smell, how does it threaten the JMT government?

Golugwa: those words cannot be completely threatening words that give off a bad smell or stench, I really don't see where the government can be intimidated


. Hon. Lissu: How can the JMT government be intimidated by the words we will prevent the election, we will disrupt the election? which according to your evidence are not wrong according to the law

Golugwa: I don't see how the government can be intimidated at all

Section 342

Hon. Lissu continues to lead his witness who is the Deputy Secretary General of CHADEMA on the Tanganyika side Amani Golugwa.

Hon. Lissu: Explain to the judges according to your understanding, how can the United Republic of Tanzania government and all its organs be intimidated by the words that indicates rebellion which according to your evidence you have said is not wrong

Golugwa: Honorable judges I don't see any way the government can be intimidated by the words that this position indicates rebellion

Hon. Lissu: Explain to the judges how the United Republic of Tanzanis government and all its forces are intimidated by the words we will incite rebellion

Golugwa: I do not see how the government and all its forces are intimidated by the words we will incite rebellion.

Hon. Lissu: there were words spoken here that on October 29 there were riots, properties were burned, Rapid Bus stations torched, burning of polling stations, now I ask you questions:
Hon. Lissu: Explain to the judges the presence of the words we are going to burn polling stations in the charge sheet


Golugwa: The words burning polling stations are not in the charge sheet

Hon. Lissu: in the charge sheet, are there words we are going to burn speeding stations?

Golugwa: there are no words we are going to burn polling stations

Hon. Lissu: explain to the judges the presence of the words that we are going to beat or cut off the fingers of people who are going to vote

Golugwa: there are no words we are going to beat or cut off the fingers of those who are going to vote.

Hon. Lissu: explain to the judges, the presence of words that we intend to destroy property, vehicles, and various personal belongings

Golugwa; those words are not in the indictment

Hon. Lissu: explain to the judges the presence of words that we are going to kill, or cause people to die on election day in the indictment

Golugwa: the words that we are going to kill or cause people to die on election day are not in the charge sheet

Hon. Lissu: explain to the judges if you have ever heard Judge Mohamed Chande's speech

Golugwa: yes, I once listened to him giving a speech to the October 29, 2025 Violence Commission

Hon. Lissu: explain to the judges if you heard Retired Judge Mohamed Chande about the number of people killed

Golugwa: I listened to him say the number of people killed was 518

Hon. Lissu: explain to the Judges, to your knowledge if you heard Judge Mohamed Chande said who caused those deaths

Golugwa: I don't remember if Judge Mohamed Chande mentioned who caused the deaths

Hon. Lissu: explain to the judges the reasons given by Judge Mohamed Chande that caused the violence of October 29, 2025

Golugwa: he said it was a claim of the New Constitution, a long-standing grievance that they have claimed and has not been resolved

Hon. Lissu: For you and the members of the party secretariat who organize the 3/4/2025 meeting, explain to the judges if there were any steps taken by the Police Force for organizing and facilitating that meeting

Golugwa: no action was taken against me or my colleagues in the Secretariat and the Police Force for us organizing that meeting

Hon. Lissu: Explain to the judges if you heard the words in the indictment as I said at the 3/4/2025 meeting

Golugwa: I heard those words you said at the meeting

Hon. Lissu: Explain to them the steps you took to report those words to the police force
Golugwa: I did not report them anywhere

Hon. Lissu: tell the judges who else was present at the meeting who took the initiative to report those words to the Police Force

Golugwa: no one went to report

Hon. Lissu: tell the judges your understanding of the existence of an offence called silence on treason

Golugwa: I am not aware of the existence of that offence

Hon. Lissu: tell the judges whether you or all the other people present at the meeting who heard those words have been charged with silence on treason

Golugwa: no one has been charged with silence on treason

Section 343

Hon. Lissu continues to lead his witness who is the Deputy Secretary General of CHADEMA on the Tanganyika side Amani Golugwa.

Hon. Lissu: The witness said that Jambo TV and Chanzo TV broadcast the meeting live, tell the judges to your knowledge whether there are any steps to charge Jambo TV and Chanzo TV with facilitating treason

Golugwa: To my knowledge, I have not heard or seen any steps taken against journalists from Jambo TV and Chanzo TV for facilitating treason or distributing the content of the meeting.

Hon. Lissu: Tell the judges if it is possible for one person to commit the crime of treason of threatening the entire United Republic of Tanzania Government

Golugwa: To my knowledge, I do not see the possibility of one person alone threatening the government, planning treason, carrying out treason, to my knowledge it is impossible

Hon. Lissu: Tell the judges if empty words can constitute the crime of treason

Golugwa: To my knowledge, empty words cannot constitute the crime of treason.

Hon. Lissu: How many hours did the meeting of 3/4/2025 last?

Golugwa: About three hours
Hon. Lissu: tell the judges whether Jambo TV and Chanzo TV broadcasted all three hours

Golugwa: They did not broadcast all three hours because later we continued with the session

Hon. Lissu: tell the judges how long Jambo TV and Chanzo TV broadcasted for that you remember

Golugwa: I remember one and a half to two hours

Hon. Lissu: let me read you the words in the indictment, tell the judges the time I spent reading those words

Golugwa: you only spent about 26 seconds, not even a minute

Hon. Lissu: tell the judges in general the arguments I spoke about

Golugwa: Tundu Lissu spoke about the shortcomings of the electoral system, he explained the electoral problems that exist in the Constitution that affect our elections, in the Laws, Rules and Guidelines, he explained about various Commissions such as Judge Nyalali's Commission, Judge Kisanga's Commission, Warioba's Commission how they explained the shortcomings that exist in our electoral systems and the recommendations of all these Commissions regarding what should be done to improve the electoral system. Hon. Lissu also spoke about various reports of election observers since 1995, both domestic and international, REDET, TEMCO and he explained and explained the opinions of domestic observers regarding the need for changes in order to have free and credible elections. Hon. Lissu explained the reports in terms of reports of external observers for all elections since 1995 mentioning, SADC, the United States, the European Union, the African Union all the flaws they saw and their recommendations on the need for real changes in the electoral systems Hon. Lissu also spoke about our party's experience in the 2019 Local Government elections, the 2020 General Elections, the experience of the Council and Parliamentary by-elections that occurred between 2015 and 2019 and onwards. Hon. Lissu also spoke about the 2024 Local Government elections regarding the experience of the brutal and brutal incidents that our CHADEMA candidates went through.
These brutal incidents were carried out by the election administrators and their assistants which included the brutal removal of Chadema candidates, the election administrators were refusing to take the candidates' forms, incidents of murder.


The State Attorney Ajaye Bilishanga Zegeli stood up and said that the time is now for a break, we request an adjournment until 14:30

Hon. Lissu: It is okay, honorable judges, the witness should also get some water.

Judge Dunstan Nduguru: The hearing is adjourned until half past Two (14: 30 hrs).

Section 344

Court is Back in Court High Court
Judges enter Court

Government Attorney Ajuyaye Bilishanga Zengeli stands up and says Government attorneys are ready

Judge Dunstan Nduguru asks Hon. Lissu are you ready?

Hon. Lissu: Yes, I am ready

Judge Nduguru says let's continue

Hon. Lissu: When we took the break you were explaining about the speech of 3/4/2025 I ask you to continue

Golugwa: Chairman Tundu Lissu also explained the incidents of killings in our country's elections, for example during the Local Government Elections in 2024 A CHADEMA candidate in Manyoni was shot dead, another during the repeat by-election in Kinondoni,

Hon. Lissu: After explaining the killings in our elections, what did I say?

Golugwa: You said rather than going through all these tragedies, of people being killed in elections, violence and chaos, we are ready for the elections to be postponed and moved forward so that as a nation we can address these problems that exist in our electoral systems. Tundu Lissu also said we mean it, we are ready and our laws allow the elections to be moved forward.

Hon. Lissu: Another thing I talked about, please continue explaining

Golugwa: Another thing Hon. Lissu said that whoever is thinking of running for this election should forget it, go and work to educate his voters about our position of No Reforms No Election so that all Tanzanians will support us. Another thing Hon. Lissu said that he was even thinking of running for President but he will not run and that he is ready for the elections to be moved forward and will go and educate Tanzanians throughout the country

Hon. Lissu: With all my conversations that day that you have said here, if someone brings you a few words that are in the indictment, what do you say?

Golugwa: I completely see that they are fabricated and have evil intentions against you, the intention to oppress you and our party so that we do not engage in politics that we are legally allowed to do.

Hon. Lissu: Explain to the judges from your understanding the words of my entire speech whether there was any intention to commit treason

Golugwa: To my knowledge there is absolutely no intention to commit treason or threaten the government

Hon. Lissu: Explain to the judges from your memories those words I spoke on 3/4/2025 if it was the first time you heard them

Golugwa: In fact, you have said them many times including the Conference with media editors led by Deodatus Balile of the Tanzania Editors Forum (TEF), you also said them when you met with Islamic religious leaders, the Council of Imams in the presence of the leader Sheikh Ponda Issa Ponda, and I was there and I heard you say those words. Golugwa continues to say that Hon. Lissu also said those words when we met with the Center for Law and Human Rights in the presence of lawyer Fulgence Massawe, I was there and you said them.
You also said it in front of retired Prime Minister Judge Joseph Sinde Warioba in his office in Masaki and you said those words I was there and I heard and Elder Warioba fully supported us.

Hon. Lissu: Explain to the judges all the visits and saying all those words, was I spreading the intention to commit treason?

Golugwa: It was not spreading treason but it was to educate them about our position so that they would support us so that changes could happen before the elections were held, everyone understood us except the Government

Hon. Lissu: After my arrest on 09/4/2025, explain to the judges what happened to the party and the remaining leaders

Golugwa: The party was opened for trial and prevented from carrying out party work, we leaders were arrested and accused of crimes such as terrorism etc.

Hon. Lissu: What happened to you personally?

Golugwa: On 13/05/2025 I had a trip to Belgium to represent the party at the International Democratic Union (IDU) conference.

NASSORO Katuga stands up: Hon. Judge, what the witness is saying is contrary to section 156 of the Evidence Act because it is not related to the case, the witness will probably come and give examples of whether he was married or not,

Section 345

Hon. Lissu continues to lead his witness who is the Deputy Secretary General of CHADEMA for Tanganyika, Amani Golugwa.

Hon. Lissu: Witness, continue about what happened to you on 13/05/2025

Golugwa: On 13/05/2025, when I was at the airport when I had already been given a boarding pass, while I was with the immigration officer, two people followed me and said let's go to the office to talk. When we were heading to the office, they said I was under arrest. One of them did not have an ID and was wearing civilian clothes, so he said I was under arrest. They took me into a room and left me. Before that, they asked for my phones and the one who did not have a uniform or ID took them all.
Your Honors, after about 5 minutes while I was in the room, more than five people came, one with a gun. They opened the door and searched my bag and took two papers that contained a speech that I planned to give at the meeting. Your Honors, even though I asked them why they arrested me, why are they searching me, what is my crime?
They didn't answer me at all, they dropped me off at the airport underground, the speed was very fast, they insulted me a lot "I beg you not to say these words in front of the honorable court" one of them with a gun put it to my right ear and said "you idiots are the ones planning your trips to pollute the country out there, now today you will understand".
I was not beaten but I was forced to walk, I ask the judges to look at me and show them Amani Golugwa shows the Judges how he was grabbed by his waist belt (Tanganyika jeck) , my legs did not reach the ground, Honorable judges, after that I was put in a car and was driven around for more than two hours at the airport and later I was taken to the Stakishari Police station, I asked them why they brought me here?
They said you are the one Lissu sends to speak to the government outside and be given dirty money from outside, so you are involved in cybercrimes and money laundering.

Golugwa continues to say that when it got to 8pm, 10 people came to pick me up and they were all new. I asked them where they were taking me, they did not know and they were surprised at me, they had a radio call and they were talking saying we have a hawk, we headed left from Stakishari while I was lying down in the car, after a while we arrived at the Central Police Station in Dar es Salaam and the one who was talking on the radio call told ZCO Mafwele that the load was there.
Honorable judges, I was not well at that time due to the difficulties I went through and the ZCO spoke to me in good language even though I was in a very difficult situation because I did not understand my fate and when I was brought before them, they only said cybercrimes and money laundering.
Honorable judges, I was asked about my two previous trips to Mombasa and they told me that I had been traveling and returning without following the procedures and laws of the country, they wanted me to give an explanation, I questioned a lot and I was not ready to give an explanation but in the end I gave an explanation and was asked to bring proof of the trip to Mombasa which I traveled with my family and parents and I sent proof by sending copies of my passport.

Hon. Lissu: Where did all these things end?

Golugwa: I was sponsored by party leaders and I was told to go home peacefully. So the business trip was disrupted and I was not able to travel.

Hon. Lissu: explain to them about the truth of those allegations whether they are true or not

Golugwa; those allegations are not true

Hon. Lissu: tell the judges if there is a law that prevents you from traveling outside the country
Golugwa: There is no law

Section 346

Hon. Lissu continues to lead his witness who is the Deputy Secretary General of CHADEMA for Tanganyika Amani Golugwa.

Hon. Lissu: State Attorney Katuga likes to give completely absurd examples, namely, if a witness got married and was interfered with by the Police, it is evidence related to the case. My testimony and Mnyika's testimony are about the Government's campaign of oppression against us and our Party.
This case is oppressive, it is false, it is political and the Government has been arresting people and our leaders without following the law, without charging them with the intention of weakening our Party. The correct article is 7, 8, 9 of the Evidence Act.
These government lawyers do not want the government police force they serve to be exposed, they do not want their dirty work to be exposed, we will not accept it because we have been abused a lot, myself, Mbowe, Mnyika, Dr. Slaa and other leaders.

NASSORO Katuga: What Lissu is saying is the reason for denying it now; we are requesting instructions from the Court but if the evidence is important to the defense, we have no problem because we will have the opportunity to ask probing questions.

Judge Ndunguru is consulting with his fellow judges, he started with Judge Kareyamaha today, he went to Judge Kiwonde, let's see, but they have taken too many minutes, more than 10. Judge Nduguru after a long discussion says we have heard the arguments, we direct us to be focused, the prosecution's responsibility is to prove the case, the accused does not have the responsibility to prove his innocence, the problem is that the defense does not have a statement that perhaps it has a guide for the defense. The Republic has the right to conduct cross examination and that is a fair trial.

Hon. Lissu: Tell the judges another incident of your arrest.

Golugwa: On 08/11/2025 while I was at my parents' house in Arusha, I was arrested by the Police and when I questioned why they were arresting me, they mentioned three crimes: terrorism, conspiring to destroy public infrastructure and public property, conspiring to attack state security forces, so I was planning to attack them? The witness speaks with emotion and asks the question,

Hon. Lissu: What happened after that?

Golugwa: I stayed at Central Police Arusha for about two hours and later I was transported to Oysterbay Police Dar es Salaam at around 1:00 pm, I refused to give a statement so I was locked up. When it got to 8:00 pm again I was taken out and asked to give a statement, I did not give a statement and I told them to bring ZCO Mafwele who I have known in Arusha to come and say from what he knows about me that I, Golugwa, could be a terrorist.
Honorable Judges, the next day ZCO Mafwele came and persuaded me to give a statement and lawyer Hekima came with him and persuaded me to give a statement, I did not give a statement and what I saw with my colleagues there at Lema, Boni Yai and John Heche. We were told to go and the next day we were supposed to go to ZCO Mafwele Central Police station and after reporting we were told to go and that is how it has been until today
Hon. Lissu: Tell the Judges what action the Police Force has taken to date

Golugwa: no action to date

Hon. Lissu: Tell the Judges what this arrest means to you
Golugwa: his intention was to intimidate me and my fellow leaders so that we would not do our party work.

Hon. Lissu: Tell them your understanding of the events surrounding my arrest and release of this incident that put me in prison

Golugwa: In 2012 I remember we were all arrested and doused with water cannon and beaten in Arusha, I remember in 2024 we were arrested in Mbeya when you went to the Youth Day Celebration, another incident happened in Arusha when you came to defend Lema I remember you were arrested, when you expressed your opinion about Magufuli's rule you were also arrested when you said Magufuli is a dictator of Uchwara.

Section 347

Hon. Lissu continues to lead his witness who is the Deputy Secretary General of CHADEMA on the Tanganyika side Amani Golugwa.

Hon. Lissu: In all the incidents of my arrest that you mentioned, tell the judges your memories of me being convicted of any crime I was ever arrested for

Golugwa: I have no memory of you being convicted of any of the incidents in which you were arrested or charged with

Hon, Lissu: How long have you known me?

Golugwa: I have known you for 20 years

Hon. Lissu: today I am being charged with treason, the biggest crime in this country, explain to the judges with your understanding the possibility of me being a traitor in my country

Golugwa: Honorable judges, from the way I know Lissu for 20 years, he is a very good person and I do not see the possibility of Tundu Lissu being a traitor. Here the witness has flowed so much that the Judges are happy.

Judge Nduguru said that Lissu has already presented his CV here in Court. People are very happy these very minutes of the afternoon.

Hon. Lissu: I have finished the questions for this witness
.

The State Attorney Ajuaye Bilishanga Zegeli is standing and says that it is now 5 o'clock (17:00hrs) and since the time is late we request an adjournment until tomorrow at 9 o'clock in the morning for the questions of the Interrogatories for this witness.

Judge Dunstan Nduguru: The hearing is adjourned until tomorrow at three o'clock in the morning.


Hon. Tundu Lissu packs his bags while saying goodbye to the Leaders, Members and Supporters of CHADEMA who came to Court today.

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dO0PZjjm2Mw

 

[sheremaya]

Jamaa anafunguka huyu.

 

[mzalendo namba moja]

Duuh!! Ripoti ya Thabo Mbeki kuna mwenye nayo tuanze kujisomea?

 

[magnifico]

Mungu mbariki Tundu Lissu.

 

[Manyanza]

TUNDU LISSU ANAMHOJI SHAIDI WAKE AMAN GOLUGWA MAHAKAMANI

SEHEMU YA 3.

Lissu: Waeleze Waheshimiwa Majaji, walizungumziaje matukio ya mauaji kwa ujumla wake, waangalizi wote?

Amani Sam Golugwa: Waheshimiwa Majaji, walisema kwamba vyombo vya dola, kama Polisi kwa ujumla wake, waliwapiga waandamanaji na waliwazuia waangalizi kutimiza wajibu wao kwa kuwapiga na kuwanyang’anya vifaa vyao.

Lissu: Swali langu, walisema nini juu ya mauaji ya wananchi?

Amani Sam Golugwa: Waheshimiwa Majaji, walisema vyombo vya dola vimehusika katika mauaji ya waandamanaji.

Na hivyo walitaka pawepo na uwajibikaji kwa mauaji yaliyofanyika.

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Lissu: Huu uchaguzi Mkuu uliendeshwa na chombo gani?

Amani Sam Golugwa: Waheshimiwa Majaji, uchaguzi huu uliendeshwa na kusimamiwa na Tume Huru ya Uchaguzi.

Lissu: Waeleze Waheshimiwa Majaji, Mwenyekiti, Makamu Mwenyekiti na Wajumbe wa hiyo Tume Huru ya Uchaguzi wanateuliwaje?

Jaji Ndunguru: Iwe wanapatikanaje, iliwa unasema wanateuliwaje inakuwa umeshamjibia.

Lissu: Sawa. Waeleze Waheshimiwa Majaji, Mwenyekiti, Makamu Mwenyekiti na Wajumbe wa hiyo Tume Huru ya Uchaguzi wanapatikanaje?

Amani Sam Golugwa: Wanapatikana kwa kuteuliwa na Rais.

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Lissu: Waeleze Waheshimiwa Majaji, Mkurugenzi wa hiyo Tume anapatikanaje?

Amani Sam Golugwa: Waheshimiwa Majaji, anapatikana kwa kuteuliwa na Rais wa Jamhuri ya Muungano wa Tanzania.

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Lissu: Waeleze Waheshimiwa Majaji, Wasimamizi wa Uchaguzi (Returning Officers), wale wanaosimamia majimbo katika uchaguzi, wanapatikanaje?

Amani Sam Golugwa: Waheshimiwa Majaji, ni watumishi wa umma na wanapatikana kwa kuteuliwa na Rais wa Jamhuri ya Tanzania.

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Lissu: Waeleze Waheshimiwa Majaji, Wasimamizi wa kusimamia kura vituoni (Presiding Officers) wanapatikanaje na ni akina nani?

Amani Sam Golugwa: Waheshimiwa Majaji, ni watumishi na ni watendaji kwenye ngazi ya kata, mtaa na vijiji, na wote wanafanya kazi kwa niaba ya Rais wa Jamhuri ya Muungano wa Tanzania.

Lissu: Nimeuliza wanapatikanaje?

Amani Sam Golugwa: Wanateuliwa na Tume Huru ya Uchaguzi.

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Lissu: Turudi nyuma kidogo juu ya kukamatwa kwangu.

Watazamaji walisemaje juu ya kukamatwa kwangu na kushtakiwa kwa kesi ya uhaini?

Amani Sam Golugwa: Walisikitishwa kwanza kwa kukamatwa kwa Kiongozi Mkuu wa Chama cha Upinzani.

Walisema kesi hii kwanza ni ya uongo na hawakuona kesi hii ni ya uhaini kwa kile walichokisikia katika maneno aliyozungumza Tundu Lissu.

Walitaka na kuisihi mamlaka imwachilie huru bila masharti yoyote.

WEKA EMOJI KAMA UNASOMA

SHARE ZAIDI UJUMBE UFIKE MBALI

 

[Manyanza]

 

[Rigor__Mortis]

Mapemaa kama kawaida yangu siti ya karibu kabisa na Nassor Katwiga😁

 

[woodpecker24]

mh hii kesi inachimbua mambo mengi ambayo hayakuwai kupata uwanja wa kuongelewa na kufikia jamii kwa wingi sijui mwisho wake itakuwaje nawaza sipati jibu kiukweli

 

[mrxtz2026]

Lissu: Taasisi ya Thabo Mbeki ilisemaje kuhusu matokeo hayo ya uchaguzi?

Amani Sam Golugwa: Waheshimiwa Majaji, Thabo Mbeki Foundation katika taarifa yao walizungumza mambo manne.

La kwanza, uchaguzi wa Tanzania upo chini ya viwango na miongozo ya chaguzi za kidemokrasia kama zilizowekwa kwa mujibu wa SADC na Umoja wa Afrika.

Pili, wapiga kura hawakupata uhuru wa kutimiza wajibu wao wa kidemokrasia wa kupiga kura kwa sababu ya vurugu zilizokuwa zimetokea.

Tatu, matokeo ya Urais na Ubunge yaliyotangazwa siyo ya kweli na hayana uhalisi wa utashi wa watu kwenda kupiga kura.

Na nne, taarifa yao ilisema Tanzania hakuna Serikali yenye uhalali, na hii iliyopo imejiweka kwa kutumia mabavu na udanganyifu kupitia uchaguzi usiokuwa halali.

Asante Amani Sam Gulugwa.

 

[Manyanza]

TUNDU LISSU ANAMHOJI SHAIDI WAKE AMAN GOLUGWA MAHAKAMANI

SEHEMU YA 4.

Lissu: Waeleze Waheshimiwa Majaji, Baraza la Umoja wa Mataifa lilisemaje juu ya kesi hii?

Amani Sam Golugwa: Waheshimiwa Majaji, lilisema kukamatwa kwa Lissu haikuwa halali.

Na kitendo cha kukamatwa kwake kinanyima uhuru na haki ya kujieleza.

Na shtaka alilofunguliwa ni shtaka batili lenye lengo la kumuumiza, na hivyo kutaka mamlaka imwachilie kwa sababu kesi hii inaonekana ni ya kisiasa.

Lissu: Kikao cha Mawaziri wa Jumuiya ya Madola kilisemaje kuhusu kesi hii?

Amani Sam Golugwa: Waheshimiwa Majaji, kikao cha Mawaziri wa Commonwealth walisema kwanza kesi hii inadhihirisha uminywaji wa demokrasia.

Kesi hii ni batili na hivyo aachiliwe bila masharti yoyote.

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Lissu: Turudi katika mkutano wa tarehe 03 ulio sababisha yote haya.

Ulisema mkutano uliandaliwa na Sekretarieti kwa maelekezo ya Katibu Mkuu, na ukasema ni mkutano wa watia nia waliokuwa wanataka kugombea.

Waeleze Waheshimiwa Majaji, watu wengine waliokuwepo walihudhuria mkutano huo.

Amani Sam Golugwa: Watu wengine waliohudhuria ni viongozi wa chama na waandishi wa habari ambao hawakuwa watia nia, lakini walikuwepo katika ukumbi wa mkutano.

Lissu: Wafafanulie Majaji, ukisema viongozi wa chama ambao hawakuwa watia nia ni akina nani?

Amani Sam Golugwa: Waheshimiwa Majaji, waliwemo viongozi wa chama kanda, mkoa na jimbo ambapo chama kipo.

Lissu: Waeleze Waheshimiwa Majaji, kama viongozi wa chama ni hao tu waliokuwepo?

Amani Sam Golugwa: Walikuwepo pia viongozi wakuu ambao pia siyo watia nia, akiwemo mimi mwenyewe pia.

Lissu: Ukisema viongozi wakuu ni akina nani? Wewe unafikiri kila mtu ni CHADEMA?

Amani Sam Golugwa: Waheshimiwa Majaji, ni:

Mwenyekiti wa Taifa,

Makamu Mwenyekiti Bara,

Makamu Mwenyekiti Zanzibar,

Katibu Mkuu,

Naibu Katibu Mkuu Bara,

Naibu Katibu Mkuu Zanzibar,

na wajumbe wa Sekretarieti wote walikuwepo.

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Lissu: Waeleze Waheshimiwa Majaji, watu wote hao uliowataja, waandishi wa habari na viongozi wa chama ngazi zote walipataje taarifa za uwepo wa mkutano huo?

Nassoro Katuga: Mheshimiwa Jaji, uulizwaji wa maswali una-suggest majibu.

Shahidi hajazungumzia kuhusu kupataje taarifa.

Lissu: Sawa, naomba kurudia swali.

Nassoro Katuga: Imekuwa kama utaratibu, anamsanua shahidi, anakosa makusudi, halafu shahidi anakuwa ameshajua ndiyo anamrekebisha.

Lissu: Waheshimiwa Majaji, hiyo siyo leading question.

Ila kwa sababu unataka nitumie maneno yako kuuliza, nitauliza.

Shahidi, watu waliofika katika mkutano walijuaje kuna mkutano?

Amani Sam Golugwa: Waheshimiwa Majaji, nianze na viongozi wakuu.

Nianze na kundi la viongozi wakuu.

Mimi ndiyo nilikuwa na jukumu la kuwapigia simu viongozi wafuatao:

Mwenyekiti wa Taifa, Tundu Antipas Lissu;

Makamu Mwenyekiti Bara, John Wegesa Heche;

Makamu Mwenyekiti Zanzibar, Said Mzee;

na Naibu Katibu Mkuu Zanzibar.

Hawa niliwapigia simu mwenyewe na nikawajulisha kuhusu mkutano huo na kwamba watatakiwa kuwepo.

Wengine waliokuwepo ukumbini walialikwa na Mkurugenzi wa Mawasiliano na Uenezi wa Chama, Brenda Rupia, ambaye ni mjumbe wa Sekretarieti.

WEKA EMOJI KAMA UNASOMA

SHARE ZAIDI UJUMBE UFIKE MBALI

 

[Sozo_]

Walisema kesi hii kwanza ni ya uongo na hawakuona kesi hii ni ya uhaini kwa kile walichokisikia katika maneno aliyozungumza Tundu Lissu.

 

[mrxtz2026]

TUNDU LISSU ANAMHOJI SHAIDI WAKE AMAN GOLUGWA MAHAKAMANI

SEHEMU YA 3.

Lissu: Waeleze Waheshimiwa Majaji, walizungumziaje matukio ya mauaji kwa ujumla wake, waangalizi wote?

Amani Sam Golugwa: Waheshimiwa Majaji, walisema kwamba vyombo vya dola, kama Polisi kwa ujumla wake, waliwapiga waandamanaji na waliwazuia waangalizi kutimiza wajibu wao kwa kuwapiga na kuwanyang’anya vifaa vyao.

Lissu: Swali langu, walisema nini juu ya mauaji ya wananchi?

Amani Sam Golugwa: Waheshimiwa Majaji, walisema vyombo vya dola vimehusika katika mauaji ya waandamanaji.

Na hivyo walitaka pawepo na uwajibikaji kwa mauaji yaliyofanyika.

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Lissu: Huu uchaguzi Mkuu uliendeshwa na chombo gani?

Amani Sam Golugwa: Waheshimiwa Majaji, uchaguzi huu uliendeshwa na kusimamiwa na Tume Huru ya Uchaguzi.

Lissu: Waeleze Waheshimiwa Majaji, Mwenyekiti, Makamu Mwenyekiti na Wajumbe wa hiyo Tume Huru ya Uchaguzi wanateuliwaje?

Jaji Ndunguru: Iwe wanapatikanaje, iliwa unasema wanateuliwaje inakuwa umeshamjibia.

Lissu: Sawa. Waeleze Waheshimiwa Majaji, Mwenyekiti, Makamu Mwenyekiti na Wajumbe wa hiyo Tume Huru ya Uchaguzi wanapatikanaje?

Amani Sam Golugwa: Wanapatikana kwa kuteuliwa na Rais.

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Lissu: Waeleze Waheshimiwa Majaji, Mkurugenzi wa hiyo Tume anapatikanaje?

Amani Sam Golugwa: Waheshimiwa Majaji, anapatikana kwa kuteuliwa na Rais wa Jamhuri ya Muungano wa Tanzania.

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Lissu: Waeleze Waheshimiwa Majaji, Wasimamizi wa Uchaguzi (Returning Officers), wale wanaosimamia majimbo katika uchaguzi, wanapatikanaje?

Amani Sam Golugwa: Waheshimiwa Majaji, ni watumishi wa umma na wanapatikana kwa kuteuliwa na Rais wa Jamhuri ya Tanzania.

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Lissu: Waeleze Waheshimiwa Majaji, Wasimamizi wa kusimamia kura vituoni (Presiding Officers) wanapatikanaje na ni akina nani?

Amani Sam Golugwa: Waheshimiwa Majaji, ni watumishi na ni watendaji kwenye ngazi ya kata, mtaa na vijiji, na wote wanafanya kazi kwa niaba ya Rais wa Jamhuri ya Muungano wa Tanzania.

Lissu: Nimeuliza wanapatikanaje?

Amani Sam Golugwa: Wanateuliwa na Tume Huru ya Uchaguzi.

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Lissu: Turudi nyuma kidogo juu ya kukamatwa kwangu.

Watazamaji walisemaje juu ya kukamatwa kwangu na kushtakiwa kwa kesi ya uhaini?

Amani Sam Golugwa: Walisikitishwa kwanza kwa kukamatwa kwa Kiongozi Mkuu wa Chama cha Upinzani.

Walisema kesi hii kwanza ni ya uongo na hawakuona kesi hii ni ya uhaini kwa kile walichokisikia katika maneno aliyozungumza Tundu Lissu.

Walitaka na kuisihi mamlaka imwachilie huru bila masharti yoyote.

WEKA EMOJI KAMA UNASOMA

SHARE ZAIDI UJUMBE UFIKE MBALI

Asabte sana Amani Sam Golugwa, napenda sana mtu anaeongea bila kupepesa macho.

 

[narogo]

mh hii kesi inachimbua mambo mengi ambayo hayakuwai kupata uwanja wa kuongelewa na kufikia jamii kwa wingi sijui mwisho wake itakuwaje nawaza sipati jibu kiukweli

Sema wewe ndo waanza kuyasikia leo. Hakuna jipya hapo.
Wakati CUF wanalia na tume ya uchaguzi mlikuwa wapi mpk leo waona ni mapya haya!

 

[Lukonge]

mh hii kesi inachimbua mambo mengi ambayo hayakuwai kupata uwanja wa kuongelewa na kufikia jamii kwa wingi sijui mwisho wake itakuwaje nawaza sipati jibu kiukweli

Wao ndo wameuchagua aina ya mchezo, uwanja wa mechi na kufungua mageti, acha waicheze ngoma. Hii inafanya hata watu waliokuwa wanashangaa kwa nini Mh. Tundu Lisu ang'ang'anie kuishinikiza serikali ifanye mabadiliko ya kisheria juu ya uchaguzi wawe na uelewa wa msingi mkuu. Hapa hata ambaye alibaki na kiimani kidogo nao kanaondoka, ukijumlisha na yanayoendelea, itawawia vigumu huko mbeleni kupata kura halali kwenye boksi la kura. Wanajining'iniza kwa kitanzi chao wenyewe.