Kiini cha Falsafa, dini za Uislamu na Ukristu ni Afrika

[Mr.Venture]

Mzee2000, Umeeleweka.

 

[PlanckScale]

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Hizi amri kumi za Mungu za waisraeli:
1. You shall have no other gods before Me.
2. You shall not make idols.
3. You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
4. Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
5. Honor your father and your mother.
6. You shall not murder.
7. You shall not commit adultery.
8. You shall not steal.
9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
10. You shall not covet.

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Mkuu,
Hizo amri za wayahudi zilikua zaidi ya kumi!
Vile vile, hamna ushahidi wa kutosha kihistoria unaoonyesha kwamba Musa alikuwepo...
Hili swala linachunguzwa kwa kina sana na wanahistoria ya biblia na torati.

 

[Ishmael]

Mzee2000,

God is still a delusion, whether it originates from Afrika or Middle-East or Europe.

Yes, I would have preferred a black god, but he/she does not exist, anyway. Nevertheless, this could be a nice disccussion on the history of Ibrahimic religions and their relation to Afrikan belief systems.

Samahani wandugu nimeingiza Kinyamwezi, hii topic kwangu ngumu kwa kutumia kinyumbani (yaani Kiswahili).

Prove the words in red to me.

NOTE: Sina muda na assumptions.

 

[Ishmael]

Mkuu,
Hizo amri za wayahudi zilikua zaidi ya kumi!
Vile vile, hamna ushahidi wa kutosha kihistoria unaoonyesha kwamba Musa alikuwepo...
Hili swala linachunguzwa kwa kina sana na wanahistoria ya biblia na torati.

Historical facts according to who?

How did I know this: Moses was born on 7 Adar in the year 2368 from Creation (circa 1400 BC), the son of Amram, a member of the tribe of Levi, and Yocheved, Levi's daughter.

 

[Ishmael]

Not a waste, kama huna hoja za kumpinga jamaa ni bora ukagonga like tu.

Hoja za jamaa zinaeleweka, there is no one being who is responsible for creation, is to be worshiped na vitu kama hivyo,
Jamaa yuko sawa tu, ukiangalia wakristo mungu wao ni tofauti kabisa na wa waislamu, wahindu ni tofauti na wa wayahudi n.k,

So who is God by the way

Mwambie huyo jamaa yako alete uthibitisho. Vain words sio hoja.

Sasa thibitisha kuwa hkuna Mungu.

SINA MUDA NA diabolical assumptions. ONLY impeccable and verifiable evidences ndio nitakubali. In-fact, those evidences must be provable, to wit

 

[Ishmael]

Mkuu,
Hizo amri za wayahudi zilikua zaidi ya kumi!
Vile vile, hamna ushahidi wa kutosha kihistoria unaoonyesha kwamba Musa alikuwepo...
Hili swala linachunguzwa kwa kina sana na wanahistoria ya biblia na torati.

Hizo amri zaidi ya kumi zilitoka wapi?

 

[Ishmael]

Tuanze na Dini.
Msingi wa uislamu na ukristu na Judaism uko kwenye agano la kale, na agano la kale linasema kwamba Musa, ambaye aliwapa amri kumi za Mungu na kuwatoa wayahudi utumwani Misri aliishi Misri ( Afrika) tangia kuzaliwa mpaka miaka zaidi ya 40. Kama aya hii inavyosema hapa chini,

Msingi wa Ukristo upo katika Agano Jipya na sio la Kale. Zaidi ya hapo Ukristu sio dini bali ni ufuasi wa Mungu. Msingi Mkuu wa Ukristo ni Yesu Kristo ambaye ni Mungu Mkuu.

Zaidi ya hapo, msingi wa Uislam haupo kwenye Agano la Kale. Kwenye Uislam hakuna 10 Commandments. Kwenye Uislam hakuna Mungu bali Allah ambaye ni Mpinga Mungu.

 

[Ishmael]

Nina uhakika "a personal god" hayupo.

Yaani hivi, nina uhakika hamna mungu ambaye amekuwa defined na Waislamu, Wakristo, Wayahudi, au dini zote ambazo zina amini kuna jamaa uko mbinguni ambaye katuumba, anatupenda, atatuchukua, ata wathibiti walio mshiti, ana tulinda kupitia malaika, kaumba ulimwengu kwa siku s(?), anataka tumsujudu, kajiumba mwenyewe :A S 11:, n.k.

Now, do I know if the bigbang theory is 100%? Of course, NOT.

Hebu tupe hiyo definition ya Mungu wa Wakristo na tuonyeshe wapi ilipo katika Vitabu vya Wakaristo, ili usaidie madai yako.

Kumbuka, unapo sema kuwa unauhakika, maana yake kuwa, unauwezo wa kutupa ushahidi ambao ni verifiable and provable, inter-alia, testable and repeatable exhibits.

I am awaiting for your impeccable reply.

 

[Nyamgluu]

Msingi wa Ukristo upo katika Agano Jipya na sio la Kale. Zaidi ya hapo Ukristu sio dini bali ni ufuasi wa Mungu. Msingi Mkuu wa Ukristo ni Yesu Kristo ambaye ni Mungu Mkuu.

Zaidi ya hapo, msingi wa Uislam haupo kwenye Agano la Kale. Kwenye Uislam hakuna 10 Commandments. Kwenye Uislam hakuna Mungu bali Allah ambaye ni Mpinga Mungu.

Hehehehe! Duh!

 

[Mjuni Lwambo]

Hivi kama kuna kesi ya wizi mahakamani kwa mfano, hakimu atahitaji ushahidi kuwa mtuhumiwa ameiba, au atahitaji ushahidi kama mtuhumiwa hajaiba?

Wewe unaesema kuna Mungu ndiyo unatakiwa kuleta ushahidi, and not otherwise, you have been told this a milion times now!!

Mwambie huyo jamaa yako alete uthibitisho. Vain words sio hoja.

Sasa thibitisha kuwa hkuna Mungu.

SINA MUDA NA diabolical assumptions. ONLY impeccable and verifiable evidences ndio nitakubali. In-fact, those evidences must be provable, to wit

 

[Mjuni Lwambo]

Msingi wa Ukristo upo katika Agano Jipya na sio la Kale. Zaidi ya hapo Ukristu sio dini bali ni ufuasi wa Mungu. Msingi Mkuu wa Ukristo ni Yesu Kristo ambaye ni Mungu Mkuu.

Zaidi ya hapo, msingi wa Uislam haupo kwenye Agano la Kale. Kwenye Uislam hakuna 10 Commandments. Kwenye Uislam hakuna Mungu bali Allah ambaye ni Mpinga Mungu.

Nimependa ile sentensi kwamba " Msingi mkuu wa ukristo ni yesu kristo ambaye ni Mungu mkuu" I wanted to reverse my comments lakini nimeshindwa, naomba kuuliza, kwa hiyo pia kuna "Mungu mdogo"?

 

[Mjuni Lwambo]

Hehehehe! Duh!

Kutokana na hii post, nimeelewa kuwa you have decided to reserve your comments, mimi nimeshindwa nimeamua kuuliza swali, Nkwesa Makambo yeye amesema ukiweza tu kugundua mtu alitaka kusema nini wewe tayari ni Mungu!!

 

[Ishmael]

Nimependa ile sentensi kwamba " Msingi mkuu wa ukristo ni yesu kristo ambaye ni Mungu mkuu" I wanted to reverse my comments lakini nimeshindwa, naomba kuuliza, kwa hiyo pia kuna "Mungu mdogo"?

Allah ni mungu mdogo.

Yesu, " Mungu Mkuu na Mwokozi" (Tito 2:13)

 

[Ishmael]

Hivi kama kuna kesi ya wizi mahakamani kwa mfano, hakimu atahitaji ushahidi kuwa mtuhumiwa ameiba, au atahitaji ushahidi kama mtuhumiwa hajaiba?

Wewe unaesema kuna Mungu ndiyo unatakiwa kuleta ushahidi, and not otherwise, you have been told this a milion times now!!

Kwahiyo wewe na jamaa yako hamuwezi kuthibisha wala kusaidia madai yenu kuwa hakuna Mungu. Am I correct?

 

[Mjuni Lwambo]

Allah ni mungu mdogo.

Yesu, " Mungu Mkuu na Mwokozi" (Tito 2:13)

I see!!
Kwa hiyo Allah ni Mungu, ila ni Mungu mdogo, Yesu ndio Mungu mkuu!!

Unaposema Allah ni Mungu mdogo na Yesu ni mkuu, unamaanisha kuwa Allah ni msaidizi wa Yesu au?

 

[Nkwesa Makambo]

Hivi kama kuna kesi ya wizi mahakamani kwa mfano, hakimu atahitaji ushahidi kuwa mtuhumiwa ameiba, au atahitaji ushahidi kama mtuhumiwa hajaiba?

Wewe unaesema kuna Mungu ndiyo unatakiwa kuleta ushahidi, and not otherwise, you have been told this a milion times now!!

Ushahidi wa pande zote wahitajika,hata Kama ni Ku prove alibi

 

[Ishmael]

I see!!
Kwa hiyo Allah ni Mungu, ila ni Mungu mdogo, Yesu ndio Mungu mkuu!!

Unaposema Allah ni Mungu mdogo na Yesu ni mkuu, unamaanisha kuwa Allah ni msaidizi wa Yesu au?

Angalia kwenye jibu langu, Allah anatumia small letter "m", ikimaanisha Allah sio mali kitu. Hakuumba wala sio Mungu Mkuu.

QURAN 92 1-3
1. Naapa kwa usiku ufunikapo, 2 kwa mchana uingiapo, 3. na kwa aliye umba kiume na kike..


Hivi mtu anaye apa kwa mwengine anakuwa Mungu au binadamu? Je, nani kaumba hapo. Maana Allah anaapa katika aliye umba, na kuumba ni sifa ya Mungu. Kumbe Allah hakuumba. Kumbe Allah sio Mungu.


Je, ni nani huyu aliye umba Kiume na Kike ambaye Allah wa Islam anaapa kwake?

 

[Ishmael]

Ushahidi wa pande zote wahitajika,hata Kama ni Ku prove alibi

Safi kabisa:

1. Mshitaki anakuja na ushahidi wake kuwa "fulani" kaiba, na hiyo ndio kazi ya Prosecutors.
2. Mshitakiwa na yeye anakuja na ushaidi wake kuwa yeye hakuimba. Anaweza saidiwa na defense Attorney.

Mimi nawauliza washitaki wa Mungu jambo dogo tu.

Watuletee ushahidi kuwa hakuna Mungu. Yaani imekuwa kama vile nimeuliza swali la kutengeneza Roketi.

 

[Nkwesa Makambo]

Kutokana na hii post, nimeelewa kuwa you have decided to reserve your comments, mimi nimeshindwa nimeamua kuuliza swali, Nkwesa Makambo yeye amesema ukiweza tu kugundua mtu alitaka kusema nini wewe tayari ni Mungu!!

Ndugu yangu, ukiandika "Nilijua uta..." Una maanisha ulikuwa unajua kile MTU alikuwa bado anakipika kichwani mwake.
Kama hukujua kosa la andiko lako pole sana . Kama ungekuwa mwelewa ungefuta "nilijua ..." "Nilihisi..." Au neno jingine sawa na hisia na sio ujuzi.

 

[Nkwesa Makambo]

Angalia kwenye jibu langu, Allah anatumia small letter "m", ikimaanisha Allah sio mali kitu. Hakuumba wala sio Mungu Mkuu.

QURAN 92 1-3
1. Naapa kwa usiku ufunikapo, 2 kwa mchana uingiapo, 3. na kwa aliye umba kiume na kike..


Hivi mtu anaye apa kwa mwengine anakuwa Mungu au binadamu? Je, nani kaumba hapo. Maana Allah anaapa katika aliye umba, na kuumba ni sifa ya Mungu. Kumbe Allah hakuumba. Kumbe Allah sio Mungu.


Je, ni nani huyu aliye umba Kiume na Kike ambaye Allah wa Islam anaapa kwake?

Hupati jibu toka kwa waislam milele,Sana Sana subiri picha za mashoga Kama kujibu hilo...