Kiranga alikuwa anasali Kanisa Katoliki. Ilikuwaje akaanza kuamini hakuna Mungu?

Kiranga alikuwa anasali Kanisa Katoliki. Ilikuwaje akaanza kuamini hakuna Mungu?

Travis 1 said:
Alisema alikua na machaguo mawili, kuwa Buddhist au kwenda Wall Street.
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Ahsante sana mkuu kwa kutunza kumbukumbu.

Nilipata miito miwili kwa wakati mmoja, kuchagua kuwa Buddhist Monk milima ya Himalaya, au kwenda Wall St. kupiga dola.

Hapo nilikuwa natafsiri "The Dhammapada" na rafiki yangu Andy Nyerere kwenda Kiswahili.

Nikamuachia mikoba Andy mimi nikakwea pipa.

Mpaka leo sijui kama Andy alimaliza ile kazi, maana nilipotezea mawasiliano na Africa kwa muda fulani.

Kwa waliopenda kujua kwa nini niliamua kuacha kuamini uwepo wa Mungu, nitaweka kitabu kilichonishawishi mara ya mwisho kabisa, kinaitwa "The Philosophy of Religion: An Anthology".

Hususan kuna sehemu wanaongelea "the problem of evil".

Ni kitabu kizuri sana kina arguments nzuri na nyingi za kutetea uwepo wa Mungu na kupinga uwepo wa Mungu, ni falsafa pana sana.
 
allypipi said:
Ivi Kiranga enzi za shule sijui alisoma masomo gani.maana kichwa yake japo inapumba sometime ila nikichwa flani yenye PhD sio wa mchezo uyu bwana.

Ningependa nijue elimu yake kama kasoma bongo au nje.
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Elimu ni nini kwanza?

Socrates alisoma shule gani?

Mimi nimesoma Kumamoto, nikamalizia Surabaya, unapajua Kumamoto na Surabaya?
 
libero said:
Hakuna mtu anayezaliwa akiwa atheist, elimu dunia iliyopitiliza ndo chanzo cha maatheist wote ulimwenguni.
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"A child is born with no state of mind, blind to the ways of mankind".

- Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five "The Message"

Watoto wanazaliwa wakiwa hawajui uwapo wa Mungu, hivyo by definition ni a theists.

 
Kiranga said:
Ahsante sana mkuu kwa kutunza kumbukumbu.

Nilipata miito miwili kwa wakati mmoja, kuchagua kuwa Buddhist Monk milima ya Himalaya, au kwenda Wall St. kupiga dola...
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interesting..,utupatie kitabu hicho tujifunze.

na pia Mkuu, are you an atheist or anti-theist?
 
allypipi said:
Ivi Kiranga enzi za shule sijui alisoma masomo gani.maana kichwa yake japo inapumba sometime ila nikichwa flani yenye PhD sio wa mchezo uyu bwana.

Ningependa nijue elimu yake kama kasoma bongo au nje.
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Mali na watoto + Elimu yake aliyonayo yakidunia haitamsadia chochote. Ataondoka atayaacha yote hayo, so Acha aendelee na kaubishi kake na kujiona yuko sawa, Very sad.
 
Detox Arigato said:
interesting..,utupatie kitabu hicho tujifunze.
na pia Mkuu, are you an atheist or anti-theist?
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I will look for it and post it here.

I am an atheist.I am not anti-theist.

I can even see the reason for people believing in a God, I can explain these reasons, I even have empathy for believers.

I am also some kind of libertarian, so I am an advocate for freedom of religion as it was established by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights since December 10 1948.

President Kagame of Rwanda a few days ago announced that he will require pastors to have a degree in theology, I voiced my strong opposition to this move, as it infringes on the Human Rights of the people of Rwanda.

Even as I am an atheist, I will defend the freedom of religious people to worship as they want, justvas I will defend the freedom of atheist to reject religion.

The most important thing is freedom of choice and self determination.

I can't be anti-theist. I defend the right of religious people to worship their own God as they please. As long as they are not imposing their faith on me.

I do not acknowledge the existence of God outside of what if abstract thought experiments, particularly and starting with an all knowing, all loving and and all capable God such as the one preached about in the Bible and the Quran.

If atheism is the absence of belief in God. That is me.
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If anti theism is the conscious, deliberate and almost activism opposition to theism. I am not that much of an anti theist. For starters, I do not initiate much in these conversations. An anti theist to me must initiate the agenda, not merely respond to something that is already in the conversation.

If you have noticed, I hardly start anything about God here. In fact I hardly start anything.

I just reply to people and air my views, especially by showing obvious contradictions.

Mostly the cognitive dissonance is so thick people shrug off these obvious contradictions.
 
Da'Vinci said:
Ni either ni Wakatoliki au Wamepita Shule za Kikatoliki au zilizoanzishwa kwa mpango wa Katoliki....
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Kwenye hao wa uwepo wa mungu muonge kasisi agoustino wa hippo.aliyepinga nadharia ya martine herdigar kwamba mungu hayupo
 
Azarel said:
Huyu ni DAAIYE ABDULLAH, ni IMAMU Shoga mwenye msikiti wenye waumin wengi zaidi Marekani. Ni Imamu aliyejitangaza rasmi kuwa ni shoga

Unataka kuwafahamu Waislam wengine maarufu waliojitangaza kuwa ni Mashoga?

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Umeandika kama vile huyo Kiranga kakimbia ushoga kanisani akajiunga na uislam, au ndo kutaka kubalance story? Maana umemuingiza mtu ambae hata hahusiki katika huu mjadala

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