Kweli binadamu ana 'roho'? Iko sehemu gani hasa mwilini?

[Ishmael]

Fact jamaa kazi kushambulia atheists tu hana maelezo wala point muhimu

Non theists are dumb just like you. People who are informed are not requesting proof but evidence. You can't say there is no spirit and fails to give us evidence of your argument, in contrast, I have give massive evidence about the spirit.

You have no excuse. You cannot seriously engage my evidence, much less refute it. That is why I always say, evil does not exists and or there is no evil if God doesn't exist - only us chemical animals doing whatever chemicals cause. By the way, according to non theism, you are a chemical animal with no morals.

For example, can you give me proof Adolf Hitler existed? You can't and you will not be able, apart from blahing blahing and give cheap and silly non theistic self defeated talks. Very few things can be proven. You can always deny if you are willing to pay the intellectual cost.

I give many evidences for God, Not one of you have ever refuted a single one, because you are blind and mindless non theists.

Non theism is mindless and cheap.

 

[Mourinho]

Non theists are dumb just like you. People who are informed are not requesting proof but evidence. You can't say there is no spirit and fails to give us evidence of your argument, in contrast, I have give massive evidence about the spirit.

You have no excuse. You cannot seriously engage my evidence, much less refute it. That is why I always say, evil does not exists and or there is no evil if God doesn't exist - only us chemical animals doing whatever chemicals cause. By the way, according to non theism, you are a chemical animal with no morals.

For example, can you give me proof Adolf Hitler existed? You can't and you will not be able, apart from blahing blahing and give cheap and silly non theistic self defeated talks. Very few things can be proven. You can always deny if you are willing to pay the intellectual cost.

I give many evidences for God, Not one of you have ever refuted a single one, because you are blind and mindless non theists.

Non theism is mindless and cheap.

If non theism is dumb, mindless and cheap, then why do you devote most of your time in here arguing with the same people you call dumb, mindless and cheap?

 

[Mp Kalix2]

For example, can you give me proof Adolf Hitler existed? You can't and you will not be able, apart from blahing blahing and give cheap and silly non theistic self defeated talks. Very few things can be proven. You can always deny if you are willing to pay the intellectual cost.

I give many evidences for God, Not one of you have ever refuted a single one, because you are blind and mindless non theists.

Non theism is mindless and cheap.

You don't need to go to far behind for the sake of record! Just asked him does he believe that Osama Bin laden existed?

 

[Ishmael]

You don't need to go to far behind for the sake of record! Just asked him does he believe that Osama Bin laden existed?

Thanks. Let us see if the person will be able to answer your question.

 

[Ishmael]

If non theism is dumb, mindless and cheap, then why do you devote most of your time in here arguing with the same people you call dumb, mindless and cheap?

I am not the one who is claiming to have no evidence of what I dispute or support. I support my arguments with evidences, in contrast, the dumb non theists never supports their fallible notions.

I gave massive and verifiable evidences of the existence of Spirit, but neither you nor non theists gave us evidence of no spirit or provided a valid refutation. They can't.

Yeah, If you and your cousins God Haters could refute them, I wouldn't keep clubbing you with them. ....but you can't!

Non theism is idioticaco mindless.

 

[Kiranga]

We know that the universe is governed by law, that for every effect there must be a cause.

This must necessarily be true, otherwise the universe would be a chaos instead of a cosmos!

Why should this law be your god and only your god but nothing else?

And if it can be shown that the universe at the deepest level is probabilistic and unpredictably random, will that mean there is no god?

 

[Kiranga]

Most people understand this word "God" to mean something outside of themselves, while exactly the contrary is the fact. It is our very life. Without it we would be dead. We would cease to exist.

The minute the spirit leaves the body we are as nothing.
Therefore, spirit is really all there is of us

Now, the only activity which the spirit possesses is the power to think.

Thought must be creative, because spirit (roho) is creative

This creative power is impersonal and your ability to think is your ability to control it and make use of it for the benefit of yourself and others.

So there is no god other than our minds and that mind is roho?

Is that what you are saying?

 

[UHURU JR]

Hivi kwanini hamjiamini kwa mnachokiamini? Mmeamua kuamini kuwa hakuna Mungu,lakini mmekuwa hamjiamini na imani yenu hiyo. Maana mara mmekuwa mkidai ushahidi wa uwepo wa Mungu mara roho mara uchawi.Hiyo yote ni hali ya kutaka kujifariji kwa hiyo imani yenu kutokana na kutokujiamini.

Swala la roho ni swala la imani na hakuna anayejua roho ikoje. Pamoja na kwamba Karibu kila mtu humu amejaribu kuelezea roho ni nini, ila kwa kifupi roho ni uwezo unaowezasha kiumbe kuwa na uhai.

Hivyo mwili wa kiumbe bila roho hauwezi kuwa hai,na kukosena kwa uhai huko ndiyo kufa.

 

[Kiranga]

Hivi kwanini hamjiamini kwa mnachokiamini? Mmeamua kuamini kuwa hakuna Mungu,lakini mmekuwa hamjiamini na imani yenu hiyo. Maana mara mmekuwa mkidai ushahidi wa uwepo wa Mungu mara roho mara uchawi.Hiyo yote ni hali ya kutaka kujifariji kwa hiyo imani yenu kutokana na kutokujiamini.


Swala la roho ni swala la imani na hakuna anayejua roho ikoje. Pamoja na kwamba Karibu kila mtu humu amejaribu kuelezea roho ni nini, ila kwa kifupi roho ni uwezo unaowezasha kiumbe kuwa na uhai.
Hivyo mwili wa kiumbe bila roho hauwezi kuwa hai,na kukosena kwa uhai huko ndiyo kufa.

Hujathibitisha kwamba roho ipo.

Swali si kwamba roho ni imani au si imani. Of course roho ni imani. Hilo si swali. Swali ni, je ipo kweli? Kama ipo ipo wapi? Au ni imani tu na haipo kiuhalisi?

Mtu kauliza swali, anajibiwa.

This is a free public forum.

Tatizo lako nini watu wakijadili?

Unataka kuwazuia wasijadili?

 

[Ben Zen Tarot]

So there is no god other than our minds and that mind is roho?

Is that what you are saying?

siwezi kusema Mungu yupo kwasababu siwezi kuthibitisha ila uwezo wake upo ndani yetu kupitia the mind underneath conscious mind (roho)

Wanasayansi wamefanya mambo makubwa sana kwa kutumia uwezo huo na ndo maana nikasema kuna cause (thought) and effect
the world within and the world without
action (thought) and reaction.

the reaction comes from roho when you concentrate deeply.

 

[Ben Zen Tarot]

Hivi kwanini hamjiamini kwa mnachokiamini? Mmeamua kuamini kuwa hakuna Mungu,lakini mmekuwa hamjiamini na imani yenu hiyo. Maana mara mmekuwa mkidai ushahidi wa uwepo wa Mungu mara roho mara uchawi.Hiyo yote ni hali ya kutaka kujifariji kwa hiyo imani yenu kutokana na kutokujiamini.


Swala la roho ni swala la imani na hakuna anayejua roho ikoje. Pamoja na kwamba Karibu kila mtu humu amejaribu kuelezea roho ni nini, ila kwa kifupi roho ni uwezo unaowezasha kiumbe kuwa na uhai.
Hivyo mwili wa kiumbe bila roho hauwezi kuwa hai,na kukosena kwa uhai huko ndiyo kufa.

maelezo mengi alafu unasema uongo kinachosabisha uhai sio roho ni nafsi ndo maana tunasema kila nafsi itaonja mauti roho haifi mtu (nafsi) akifa roho inaendelea na maisha mengine!

 

[Kiranga]

siwezi kusema Mungu yupo kwasababu siwezi kuthibitisha ila uwezo wake upo ndani yetu kupitia the mind underneath conscious mind (roho)

Wanasayansi wamefanya mambo makubwa sana kwa kutumia uwezo huo na ndo maana nikasema kuna cause (thought) and effect
the world within and the world without
action (thought) and reaction.

the reaction comes from roho when you concentrate deeply.

Huwezi kusema kwamba mungu yupo kwa sababu huwezi kuthibitisha ila unaweza kusema kwamba uwezo wake upo ndani yetu.

Hilarious.

 

[Ben Zen Tarot]

Huwezi kusema kwamba mungu yupo kwa sababu huwezi kuthibitisha ila unaweza kusema kwamba uwezo wake upo ndani yetu.

Hilarious.

ni kweli sijakosea, kila mtu ana tafsiri yake kuhusu Mungu na mimi uwa nasema vitu ninavyoweza kuthibitisha je unaweza kuniambia tafsiri yako kuhusu Mungu?

 

[Kiranga]

ni kweli sijakosea, kila mtu ana tafsiri yake kuhusu Mungu na mimi uwa nasema vitu ninavyoweza kuthibitisha je unaweza kuniambia tafsiri yako kuhusu Mungu?

Regardless ya tafsiri yangu.

Ukishasema huwezi kusema kwamba mungu yupo (by whatever definition you are using) kwa sababu huwezi kuthibitisha, then by default hicho chochote unachofikiri kiwa ni uwezo wake huwezi kuthibitisha kwamba ni uwezo wake, kwa sababu huwezi kuthibitisha kwamba mungu yupo.

Sasa utatumiaje kutoweza kuthibitisha uwepo wa mungu kama sababu ya kutoweza kusema kwamba mungu yupo halafu hapo hapo ushindwe kutumia kutoweza kuthibitisha kwako kwamba uwezo unaofikiri ni wa mungu ni wa mungu kama sababu ya kutoweza kusema kwamba uwezo unaofikiri ni wa mungu ni wa mungu?

Kama huwezi kuthibitisha kwamba mungu yupo, huwezi kithibitisha kwamba kazi na uwezo unaodai kuwa wa mungu ninwa mungu at all.

Tafsiri yangu ya mungu ni uongo usiothibitishika.

 

[Ben Zen Tarot]

Regardless ya tafsiri yangu.

Ukishasema huwezi kusema kwamba mungu yupo (by whatever definition you are using) kwa sababu huwezi kuthibitisha, then by default hicho chochote unachofikiri kiwa ni uwezo wake huwezi kuthibitisha kwamba ni uwezo wake, kwa sababu huwezi kuthibitisha kwamba mungu yupo.

Sasa utatumiaje kutoweza kuthibitisha uwepo wa mungu kama sababu ya kutoweza kusema kwamba mungu yupo halafu hapo hapo ushindwe kutumia kutoweza kuthibitisha kwako kwamba uwezo unaofikiri ni wa mungu ni wa mungu kama sababu ya kutoweza kusema kwamba uwezo unaofikiri ni wa mungu ni wa mungu?

Kama huwezi kuthibitisha kwamba mungu yupo, huwezi kithibitisha kwamba kazi na uwezo unaodai kuwa wa mungu ninwa mungu at all.

Tafsiri yangu ya mungu ni uongo usiothibitishika.

hujajibu swali langu!

Mungu niliyemzungumzia hapo juu ni yule anayezungumziwa na majority.

Nilielezea hili kwenye comment yangu ya nyuma hata hivyo, nina tafsiri yangu kuhusu Mungu.

 

[UHURU JR]

maelezo mengi alafu unasema uongo kinachosabisha uhai sio roho ni nafsi ndo maana tunasema kila nafsi itaonja mauti roho haifi mtu (nafsi) akifa roho inaendelea na maisha mengine!

Naomba maana ya haya maneno:
Nafsi,Roho,Uhai.

 

[Kiranga]

hujajibu swali langu!

Mungu niliyemzungumzia hapo juu ni yule anayezungumziwa na majority.

Nilielezea hili kwenye comment yangu ya nyuma hata hivyo, nina tafsiri yangu kuhusu Mungu.

Na mimi nikimzungumzia huyohuyo.

Unawezaje kusema huwezi kusema mungu yupo kwa sababu huna uthibitisho, halafu hapo hapo ukaongelea uwepo wa uwezo wake ndani yetu?

Isn't the latter contradicting the former?

Utawezaje kujua huo uwezo ndani yetu ni kazi ya mungu kama hata huwezi kuthibitisha kwamba mungu yupo at all?

That's putting the cart before the horse.

Thibitisha mungu yupo kwanza, ukiweza hilo ndipo utakapokuwa na domain ya kusema na uwezo huu ni kazi ya mungu.

Ama sivyo utakuwa unaita uwezo wowote wa kibinadamu ambao hauhitaji mungu kuelezeka, au ambao hatujajua kuuelezea lakini hautokani na mungu, kwamba ni uwezo wa mungu.

Kuthibitisha kwamba mungu yupo kunatakiwa kuja kwanza kabla ya kusema uwezo huu ni wa mungu.

Huwezi kuwa na uwezo wa mungu bila ya kuwepo na mungu.

 

[UHURU JR]

Hujathibitisha kwamba roho ipo.

Swali si kwamba roho ni imani au si imani. Of course roho ni imani. Hilo si swali. Swali ni, je ipo kweli? Kama ipo ipo wapi? Au ni imani tu na haipo kiuhalisi?

Mtu kauliza swali, anajibiwa.

This is a free public forum.

Tatizo lako nini watu wakijadili?

Unataka kuwazuia wasijadili?

Sikukurupuka kuanza kusema kwamba swala la roho ni la imani,na wewe ndiyo unavyoelewa hivyo.Lakini unataka uthibitishiwe kama kweli hiyo roho ipo?na kama ipo unataka kujua ni wapi ilipo.

Sasa kabla ya kujibu hayo maswali naomba nami nikuulize. Kwanini unaona kwamba hili swala roho ni la imani?

 

[Kiranga]

Sikukurupuka kuanza kusema kwamba swala la roho ni la imani,na wewe ndiyo unavyoelewa hivyo.Lakini unataka uthibitishiwe kama kweli hiyo roho ipo?na kama ipo unataka kujua ni wapi ilipo.

Sasa kabla ya kujibu hayo maswali naomba nami nikuulize. Kwanini unaona kwamba hili swala roho ni la imani?

Kwa sababu hujaweza kulithibitisha beyond a reasonable degree of doubt.

 

[Ben Zen Tarot]

Naomba maana ya haya maneno:
Nafsi,Roho,Uhai.

binadamu amegawanyika sehemu 3 nafsi, mwili na roho uhai ndo iyo iyo nafsi UHURU JR