Geza Ulole
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Ajiulize baada ya Uganda kuanza ku-refine mafuta yake bomba lao la Mombasa-Nairobi-Kisumu litahudumia nani hapa EA? Hili bomba la gesi litalipa uhai bomba lao la mafuta!Ten years from now, Kenya itakua katika hali mbaya sana bila hii gesi au kuungwa na umeme wa Julius Nyerere hydroelectricity dam.
Sisi tutaungwa na umeme wa Gerd Ethiopia. Tayari tumeshatia saini na Ethiopia. Halafu Gerd iko karibu kukamilika, tofauti na yenu ambayo bado iko 30% completion. Powerline kati ya Ethiopia na Kenya iko karibu kukamilikaTen years from now, Kenya itakua katika hali mbaya sana bila hii gesi au kuungwa na umeme wa Julius Nyerere hydroelectricity dam.
Wewe nilishakuelezea kuwa pipeline hio itafanyiwa reverse flow ili ipeleke mafuta kutoka Uganda hadi Mombasa lakini wewe ni kichwa ngumu husikiiAjiulize baada ya Uganda kuanza ku-refine mafuta yake bomba lao la Mombasa-Nairobi-Kisumu litahudumia nani hapa EA? Hili bomba la gesi litalipa uhai bomba lao la mafuta!
Sahau kabisa kuhusu GERD, hilo bwawa kama Ethiopia haitofikia makubaliano na Egypt, halitozalisha umeme kabisa, na wakifikia makubaliano maana yake Ethiopia itaweza kuanza kuuza umeme kuanzia 2026.Sisi tutaungwa na umeme wa Gerd Ethiopia. Tayari tumeshatia saini na Ethiopia. Halafu Gerd iko karibu kukamilika, tofauti na yenu ambayo bado iko 30% completion. Powerline kati ya Ethiopia na Kenya iko karibu kukamilika
we will see! As far as i know that will be possible if Uganda is to link Hoima to ur Mombasa-Kisumu pipeline! No plans so far and i don't think Uganda will desert its Hoima-Tanga route and choose Mombasa! keep wishing....Wewe nilishakuelezea kuwa pipeline hio itafanyiwa reverse flow ili ipeleke mafuta kutoka Uganda hadi Mombasa lakini wewe ni kichwa ngumu husikii
Kwn kiwanda cha gesi huku Tz kimefikia wapi?Wewe nilishakuelezea kuwa pipeline hio itafanyiwa reverse flow ili ipeleke mafuta kutoka Uganda hadi Mombasa lakini wewe ni kichwa ngumu husikii
Mafuta gani tena tuka Uganda hadi Mombasa wakati Uganda watakua na bomba lao toka Uganda hadi Tanga?.Wewe nilishakuelezea kuwa pipeline hio itafanyiwa reverse flow ili ipeleke mafuta kutoka Uganda hadi Mombasa lakini wewe ni kichwa ngumu husikii
Kaka mbona unatoka nje ya mjadala?, kiwanda cha gesi kina uhusiano gani na bomba la gesi?Kwn kiwanda cha gesi huku Tz kimefikia wapi?
Kaka mbona unatoka nje ya mjadala?, kiwanda cha gesi kina uhusiano gani na bomba la gesi?
Okay ndio nimemistaken typing error kak
Kaka yaa nimemistaken am sorry nilikua namaanish hil bomba limefikia wapi kwa huk Tz kutawanywa
Hakijaanza kujengwaKwn kiwanda cha gesi huku Tz kimefikia wapi?
Ethiopia imeinvest $4.6 billion kwa hii dam. Halafu hio pesa ni michango ya Wahabeshi wa kawaida. Sasa sijui ni nini inakufanya useme eti Ethiopia hatazalisha umeme. Halafu hii dam iko 80% complete sasa sijui ni jambo gani inakufanya useme eti dam halitakamilikaSahau kabisa kuhusu GERD, hilo bwawa kama Ethiopia haitofikia makubaliano na Egypt, halitozalisha umeme kabisa, na wakifikia makubaliano maana yake Ethiopia itaweza kuanza kuuza umeme kuanzia 2026.
Sijasema Uganda should abandon Tanzania route. Uganda wakisharefine mafuta yao obviously watataka kutuuzia na sisi hatutakataa kununua kutoka kwao. Wakitaka kutuuzia basi itawabidi wajenge pipeline kutoka Hoima hadi katika border ya Kenya na UG. Kenya nayo tujenge kutoka Kisumu hadi Busia au Namanga. Uganda wakikataa kujenga pipeline na sisi basi tutaendelea kununua mafuta kutoka Middle East na kuisafirisha kutoka Mombasa hadi Kisumu kutumia hii pipeline. Hii pipeline itatumika whether tutanunua refined oil kutoka Uganda au Middle East. Sasa sijui ni vipi unazidi kusema eti hii pipeline ni white elephant. Pengine huelewi maana ya neno white elephant.we will see! As far as i know that will be possible if Uganda is to link Hoima to ur Mombasa-Kisumu pipeline! No plans so far and i don't think Uganda will desert its Hoima-Tanga route and choose Mombasa! keep wishing....
Sijasema Uganda should abandon Tanzania route. Uganda wakisharefine mafuta yao obviously watataka kutuuzia na sisi hatutakataa kununua kutoka kwao. Wakitaka kutuuzia basi itawabidi wajenge pipeline kutoka Hoima hadi katika border ya Kenya na UG. Kenya nayo tujenge kutoka Kisumu hadi Busia au Namanga. Uganda wakikataa kujenga pipeline na sisi basi tutaendelea kununua mafuta kutoka Middle East na kuisafirisha kutoka Mombasa hadi Kisumu kutumia hii pipeline. Hii pipeline itatumika whether tutanunua refined oil kutoka Uganda au Middle East. Sasa sijui ni vipi unashinda ukisema eti hii pipeline ni white elephant. Pengine huelewi maana ya neno white elephant.
Naongea kuhusu refined oil na sijasema eti Kenya itanunua mafuta kutoka Uganda ili tuuze nje. Obviously tutanunua mafuta ili tuitumie hapa hapa Kenya.Mafuta gani tena tuka Uganda hadi Mombasa wakati Uganda watakua na bomba lao toka Uganda hadi Tanga?.
Kama unazungumzia "refined oil" toka Uganda, kumbuka kwamba lengo kuu ya hiyo refinery ya Uganda ni kwa ajili ya domestic consumption, ndio sababu kila nchi ilipewa share katika huo mradi, sio kwa ajili ya kuuza nje ya EAC.
Wakikataa kujenga pipeline basi sisi tayari tunanunua mafuta kutoka Middle East. Sio lazima tununue kutoka Uganda. Sawa mzee?Ati? ππππ i bet u don't know how irrelevant is Kenya in oil economics!
Halafu unajua Kenya inatumia barrels ngapi kwa mwezi? Usiwe unaongea matope kila wakati. Eti Kenya ni irrelevant. Wewe hujui unachosema. Halafu unajua kuwa Kenya huwa tunanunua mafuta in bulk? Yaani tunaagiza meli moja kubwa kila mwezi kutoka Middle East halafu inauzwa kwa distributors ambao wanasambaza. Kwa hivyo tunanunua mafuta nyingi mara moja kila mwezi. Uganda hawawezi kukataa kutuuzia. Hawawezi kubali kupoteza hio pesa yote. Halafu Kenya inatumia refined oil nyingi kushinda UG au TZ. Sasa sijui wewe wazimu unacheka nini.Ati? ππππ i bet u don't know how irrelevant is Kenya in oil economics!
Hapana,hiyo gas ni LPG (mostly Butane na Propane-C4 na C3) na inatoka nje,ya kwetu ni Natural gas yaani methane(C1)Nimeuliza hili swali kuwa hizi mihan, manjis, lake gas, orexy zinatokana na gas yetu? Sijapata jibu
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Ngumu sana kukuelewa unachowaza muda mwengineEthiopia imeinvest $4.6 billion kwa hii dam. Halafu hio pesa ni michango ya Wahabeshi wa kawaida. Sasa sijui ni nini inakufanya useme eti Ethiopia hatazalisha umeme. Halafu hii dam iko 80% complete sasa sijui ni jambo gani inakufanya useme eti dam halitakamilika
Tazama picha mzee na ukubali kuwa hii dam imeshakamilika isipokuwa final touches tu. Halafu uhusiano kati ya Kenya na Ethiopia sio mbaya kama uhusiano kati ya Kenya na TZ.
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