Mzee Kigogo
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No Mimi sio mkatoliki
No Mimi sio mkatolikiLakini na wewe si mkatoliki?
Sasa hapo unapinga nini?
Mimi sio mkatoliki na wala sikubaliani na maneno ya papa!Utetezi w kishamba sana, kwaiyo wakatoliki mkaona wivu na nyinyi mliwe?
Ahahaha huyu mzee akapimwe akiliKatika mahojiano yaliyorushwa na gazeti la Italia liitwalo La Stampa, Papa amesema kuwa waraka wake wa kuruhusu baraka kwa mashoga unapingwa zaidi na vikundi vichache vya kiitikadi hasa Waafrika.
Papa amesema Waafrika wanapinga hili suala kwa sababu za kiutamaduni
Akasema kuwa ukiondoa waafrika, wale wanaopinga waraka wake, polepole wataelewa tu.
Alipoulizwa kuhusu uwezekano wa Kanisa kumeguka kwa sababu ya suala hilo, Papa akasema hana hofu na hilo maana mazungumzo ya kumeguka kutokana na mabadiliko aliyoyafanya katika mwenendo wa kanisa hilo yanafanywa na watu wachache. Papa akasema mitizamo ya wanaopinga anawaachia wao ila yeye anasonga mbele!.
Taarifa hii imeripotiwa na gazeti maarufu la Israel liitwalo Jerusalem Post unaweza kuisoma hapa:
Pope says Africans are 'special case' when it comes to LGBT blessings
Blessings were allowed last month in a document called Fiducia Supplicans (Supplicating Trust), which has caused widespread debate in the Catholic Church.www.jpost.com
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Pope says Africans are 'special case' when it comes to LGBT blessings
Pope Francis said in an interview published on Monday that Africans were a "special case" in the opposition of bishops and many other people in the continent to homosexuality.
But he said he was confident that, except for Africans, critics of his decision to allow blessings for same-sex couples would eventually understand it.
Blessings were allowed last month in a document called Fiducia Supplicans (Supplicating Trust), which has caused widespread debate in the Catholic Church, with particularly strong resistance coming from African bishops.
"Those who protest vehemently belong to small ideological groups," Francis told Italian newspaper La Stampa. "A special case are Africans: for them homosexuality is something 'bad' from a cultural point of view, they don't tolerate it."
"But in general, I trust that gradually everyone will be reassured by the spirit of the 'Fiducia Supplicans' declaration by the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith: it aims to include, not divide," the pope said.
Blessings were allowed last month in a document called Fiducia Supplicans (Supplicating Trust), which has caused widespread debate in the Catholic Church.
Pope says priests should consider the "context," "sensitivities" of where they are
Last week, Francis appeared to acknowledge the pushback the document received, especially in Africa, where bishops have effectively rejected it and where in some countries same-sex can lead to prison or even the death penalty.
He said that when the blessings are given, priests should "naturally take into account the context, the sensitivities, the places where one lives and the most appropriate ways to do it."
In the interview with La Stampa, Francis said he was not concerned about the risk of conservatives breaking away from the Catholic Church due to his reforms, saying that talk of a schism is always led by "small groups."
"We must leave them to it and move on...and look forward," he said.
Turning to Israel and the Palestinians, he said "true peace" between them will not materialize until a two-state solution is implemented and lamented that their conflict was widening.
Francis confirmed he is scheduled to meet the president of his native Argentina, Javier Milei, on Feb. 11, and that finally visiting the country - where he has not returned since becoming pope in 2013 - is a possibility.
He said his agenda for 2024 currently includes trips to Belgium, East Timor, Papua New Guinea and Indonesia.
Speaking about his health, which has taken some knocks in recent years with hospitalisations, mobility problems and canceled trips or events, the 87-year-old said, "there are some aches and pains but it's better now, I'm fine."
Yaani PAPA AKIONGEA KITU ujue KANISA NDIO LIMEONGEA.Kwani wewe maneno ya papa yanakuhus nn?
Huyo KIBU DEE MKANDAJI mbona sio rizki muda mrefu?Kwamba mkuu unataka KIBU DEE MKANDAJI avae gauni, pamoja na ndugu zake?.
S100 kaitwa na papa sasa zenji wote ruksa kupakuana kama wale mahabusu waliopakuana huko zenjiYaani PAPA AKIONGEA KITU ujue KANISA NDIO LIMEONGEA.
Bila PAPA hakuna kanisa. Kutakuwa majumba tu ya kukutana weekend na kuchangishana hela za mchungaji
Hayo yote umejuaje kama hufanyiwa hivyo 🤣🤣🤣Tangu ufokolewe na mjomba ako utotoni kutimiza mila zenu za bachi baazi basi kila mtu unaona kafokolewa pole sanaHuyo KIBU DEE MKANDAJI mbona sio rizki muda mrefu?
Wapi umeskia mtoto wa kiume anavaa shidilia na shanga ?
Kisha anapenda sana kungwi. Ukitazama yale macho yamelegea MEKUNDU ka muimba kadogoli.
Kinachomkwaza ni sura tu.
Manake km nyani kaonja ukwaju.
Kwahiyo ukanda wote wa pwani ule utitiri wa mashoga uliletwa na papaHakuna mkatoliki atakaempinga PAPA.
PAPA ndio muwakilishi wa KANISA KATOLIKI DUNIANI.
Atakachosema LAZIMA KIFUATWE NA WAKATOLIKI WOTE.
YYT atakaepinga basi Kwa Imani zao AMELAANIWA.
Kwahio tujiandae kuona Ndoa za jinsia moja kwa wingi sana hapa Nchini.
Mi tayari nimeanza mpango nataka kufungua sehemu ya kushona magauni ya wanamme.
Wateja wa kumwaga.
Mbona huyo hapo chini kavaa kanzu na wapakuanaKwamba mkuu unataka KIBU DEE MKANDAJI avae gauni, pamoja na ndugu zake?.
Alianza kuliwa mudiUtetezi w kishamba sana, kwaiyo wakatoliki mkaona wivu na nyinyi mliwe?
😅😅😅Yaani PAPA AKIONGEA KITU ujue KANISA NDIO LIMEONGEA.
Bila PAPA hakuna kanisa. Kutakuwa majumba tu ya kukutana weekend na kuchangishana hela za mchungaji
Hio jazba unatakiwa uipeleke kanisani kwako weekend.Kwahiyo ukanda wote wa pwani ule utitiri wa mashoga uliletwa na papa
Au umesahau hadith 16245
Mudi na al hassan? 🤣
🤣🤣🤣 dah.. yaani leo unamwagika km Hadija kopa.S100 kaitwa na papa sasa zenji wote ruksa kupakuana kama wale mahabusu waliopakuana huko zenji
Umeumia sana kukumbushia madhira uliopitia utotoni mpaka unachagua cha kuquote hama tu hiyo deen haiwezekani utamaduni (bachi baazi) wa deen yenu ukupe kidonda cha maishaHio jazba unatakiwa uipeleke kanisani kwako weekend.
Sio kukasirika na wadau wanaochangia hoja hii YA PAPA KURUHUSU NDOA ZA MASHOGA.
Jamaa kauliza je PAPA aliona Wivu watu wengine kufunga ndoa za Kishoga mpk na yeye AKARUHUSU wafuasi wake walane viboga?
We ulitakiwa ulete hoja kuwa "hapana" sisi wengine hatuliwi viboga.
We kuwa mkali ni dalili tosha kabisa kuwa hapo ulipo hio Valve yako ni Over size.
Ukitaka kwenda haja kubwa huna haja ya kuchuchumaa.
Yaani ukihema tu vitu vinaporomoka vyenyewe tartiiibu .
Pole sana . 😢
Shida zenu watu wa pwani hamna tofauti na wanawake kuanzia kuimba na kuongea sina mipasho nakupa makavu naona daawa inakuingia🤣🤣🤣 dah.. yaani leo unamwagika km Hadija kopa.
Mipasho hatari.
Aliyeruhusu wanamme wanaopakuliwa KUBARIKIWA ni Zanzibar AU PAPA?
Bi mkubwa mbona unajichanganya!? 🤣
Huna mpya. Unarudia copy and paste ka sindano imenasa kwenye santuri Mimba changa inakupa tabu. Vumilia bi mkubwa.Umeumia sana kukumbushia madhira uliopitia utotoni mpaka unachagua cha kuquote hama tu hiyo deen haiwezekani utamaduni (bachi baazi) wa deen yenu ukupe kidonda cha maisha
Hadith 16245
Bado hujajibu maswali yangu unahama hama kama mpira wa konaHuna mpya. Unarudia copy and paste ka sindano imenasa kwenye santuri Mimba changa inakupa tabu. Vumilia bi mkubwa.
Ndio ukubwa wenyewe huo.
Wanasema wakongwe "mtaka cha uvunguni sharti ainame. PAPA kAISHA KUBARIKI. ondoa shakka.
Wewe ni myahudi safi kabisa.
Wala usijali maneno ya watu.