Prince wa Saudi Arabia Salman: Mambo ya Palestine hayanihusu. Najihusisha zaidi ya Nchi yangu

[PakiJinja]

Hawa ndio wanafiki wenyewe , Saudia ni mkuu wa wanafiq hapo middle east

Amewaagizeni muhakikishe mnaenda kuhiji kwa wingi ili msaidie kuongeza utalii wa kidini? Nani atabisha?

 

[and 300]

Prince wa Salman wa Saudi Arabia amesema kuwa hataki kujihusisha na mgogoro wa Palestine. Ana nchi yake na anapaswa aangalie mambo yanayohusu nchi yake.

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Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman told US Secretary of State Antony Blinken that he does not personally care about what he referred to as the "Palestinian issue", according to a report in The Atlantic.

Published on Wednesday, the report gave a picture of 11 months of Washington's negotiation efforts in the region after the outbreak of war in Gaza, citing "two dozen participants at the highest levels of government in America and across the Middle East".

It stated that during a visit to Saudi Arabia in January, Blinken and the crown prince met in the Saudi city of al-Ula to discuss the prospect of the Gulf kingdom normalising relations with Israel amid the ongoing Israeli war on Gaza.

Months earlier, Riyadh had appeared to be making progress in forming ties with Israel during US-led discussions, which were later derailed by the outbreak of war on 7 October.
If a normalisation deal were to occur, the crown prince expressed to Blinken a desire for calm in Gaza.

According to The Atlantic, Blinken enquired whether the Saudis could tolerate Israel periodically re-entering the territory to strike the besieged Gaza Strip.

“They can come back in six months, a year, but not on the back end of my signing something like this,” Mohammed bin Salman responded.

“Seventy percent of my population is younger than me,” the crown prince explained to Blinken.

“For most of them, they never really knew much about the Palestinian issue. And so they’re being introduced to it for the first time through this conflict. It’s a huge problem. Do I care personally about the Palestinian issue? I don’t, but my people do, so I need to make sure this is meaningful.”

No deal without a Palestinian state​

A Saudi official described this account of the conversation to The Atlantic as “incorrect”.

In public, Mohammed bin Salman has stated that Saudi Arabia will not normalise relations with Israel without the establishment of a Palestinian state with East Jerusalem as its capital.

"The Kingdom will not cease its diligent efforts to establish an independent Palestinian state with East Jerusalem as its capital," he said at a recent annual address before the Shura Council in Riyadh.

"We confirm that Saudi Arabia will not establish diplomatic relations with Israel until that goal is achieved."
According to The Atlantic, in return for a normalisation deal with Israel, Saudi Arabia would seek to enter into a mutual defence treaty with Washington.

That would require ratification from two-thirds of the US Senate, which the crown prince told Blinken was most likely under a Biden administration. That was partly due to a perception that US progressives may back it if a Palestinian state was built into the deal.

Mohammed bin Salman told Blinken that pursuing a normalisation deal with Israel would come at great personal cost to him. He pointed at the example of Egyptian President Anwar Sadat, who was assasinated in 1981, a few years after signing a peace accord with Israel.

“Half my advisers say that the deal is not worth the risk,” the de-facto Saudi leader said. “I could end up getting killed because of this deal.”

Polling during the early stages of the war showed that over 90 percent of Saudis believed that Arab states should cut ties with Israel.

Despite that, there has been a crackdown on acts of Palestinian solidarity in Saudi Arabia, with reports of people being detained for expressing opinions on the conflict on social media, as well as for wearing a Palestinian keffiyeh in the holy city of Mecca.

'Full support for Palestine'​

Earlier this month, Middle East Eye asked senior Saudi royal Prince Turki al-Faisal about the crackdown on Palestinian solidarity in the kingdom.

“I haven’t felt myself any restrictions on my expressions of support for Palestine in Saudi Arabia, nor have I seen any particular reporting on that,” he responded. “Except perhaps in some publications that are not friendly to Saudi Arabia.

“But what I see of the Saudi press, whether written or on television or in social media, is full support for Palestine and no restriction on expressing support for Palestinians.”

Prince Turki said that while he was not privy to official discussions, the chances of normalisation at present were slim due to Israel’s stance on Palestinian statehood.

“The whole [Israeli] government is saying no Palestinian state. So how can there be normalisation between us and them with those positions in place?”

Prince Turki also dismissed speculation that Hamas may have carried out its surprise attack on southern Israel - which killed around 1,140 people - in order to torpedo Saudi-Israel normalisation.

"For Hamas to have done what it did, it would have required [time] to prepare for it,” he said. “At least a couple of years to gather the human and material resources to launch a campaign like that.”

Noma sana

 

[PakiJinja]

Wafalme wa Saudia kwa asili ni Mayahudi sasa unatarajia atatetea Waislamu wa Palestina!

Kwa hiyo wewe ni Mwarabu kuliko wafame wa Saudia?

 

[Mdusi94]

Kuna siku hizo sentences zitamkosti.
Dunia iliyostarahabika na Nchi yake ambayo wenye Imani nadhifu ya Dini inayokataza mabaya anageuka kuwa ya wengine hayamuhusu.....
Hija zijazo yanaweza kujitokeza yaliyojificha yatakayo ushangaza ulimwengu kama yale ya P kiasi ya watu kuacha kwenda kuhiji...
Kuna wakati busara inaelekeza kukaa kimya hasa pale jibu litokalo kinywani laweza kuwa chukizo kwa wengine.

Mungu amewatuma muwaingize wapalestina kwenye vita kisa kung'ang'ania mateka? Hv wajibu wa Hamas ni kulinda ustawi wa wapalestina au kutunza mateka ?

 

[Mdusi94]

Mkuu yanayotokea kwa binadamu wenzetu wenye ndoto na matarajio kama yetu,wenye familia na wenye kuhitaji kuishi kama sisi omba yasikukute..

Huu migogoro ulikuwa unaisha Kwa kuachia mateka ila walijitapa kuwa idf iingie Gaza hawaogop , Leo Mnataka huo ujinga wehu uwacost wengine?

 

[Mdusi94]

Mkuu yanayotokea kwa binadamu wenzetu wenye ndoto na matarajio kama yetu,wenye familia na wenye kuhitaji kuishi kama sisi omba yasikukute..

Huu migogoro ulikuwa unaisha Kwa kuachia mateka ila walijitapa kuwa idf iingie Gaza hawaogop , Leo Mnataka huo ujinga wehu uwacost wengine?

 

[Mdusi94]

Kila jambo na nyakati zake,tuombe uzima lolote lawezekana chini ya Jua.
Hata ufalme was kale wa Nebuchadnezzar aliye waaminisha watu kuwa yeye ndiye Mungu leo umebaki History.

Hamas wataish milele?

 

[Adiosamigo]

Sawa hayamuhusu sa yanini anayaongelea kuna mtu alimuomba awasaidie 😄

 

[Manny de Bwoy]

Safi uanzishe ugomvi halafu usubiri wengine wakusaidie si upuuzi Siyo Saudia tu ukiacha Iran waliotengeneza makundi ya kigaidi yapambane na Israel nchi nyingine za kiarabu zipo kimya, Tena kama Misri anapakana na Gaza ila hatoi msaada wowote, huwezi kuwaingiza watu vitani kindezindezi hivyo

 

[imhotep]

Amani Amani Amani

 

[Mzee Kikowapi]

Hahaha nimecheka ukaona liwale kaka

Katukosea sana sisi wana liwale

 

[Pdidy]

HUYU PRINCE TUMTEENGENEZEE SANAMU GAZA ANAJUA KUSOMA NYAKATI

 

[Kimbukiko]

FaizaFoxy anadai watawala wa Saudia ni Mayahudi.

Ni " Crypto Jews " ,sijui kama unaelewa historia na hili neno
Ungeelewa alichomaanisha , kuna serikali zinaongozwa na vibaraka waliopachikwa ili kulinda maslahi ya wazayuni na Marekani hapo middle east na Saudi Family ni moja wapo , wale si waarabu wa asili ni mamluki waliopachikwa hapo kwa maslahi ya west alliance na makampuni yao ya mafuta , Jordan pia ni similar situation , vibaraka wasio na asili ya uarabu ila wanajiita wafalme wa kiarabu na wanatawala kwa mkono wa chuma na kulindwa na majeshi ya nchi za magharibi ili kuzima upinzani wa raia maana wanajijua hawakubaliki kwa raia na ni mamluki

 

[Kimbukiko]

Halafu hiyo Saudi ndio wenye dini, haya mazombi mengine yamedandia tu.

Acha upumbavu Nani kakwambia Saudia Ndio mmiliki wa dini ya kiislamu wewe mpuuzi ?
Mimi sio muislamu ila ninyi wapumbavu mnakera sana na mnaandika upuuzi humu kwa vitu msivyovijua ,
Unajua kuna madhehebu mangapi ya kiislamu we zoba ?
Ni sawa na leo hii useme Vatican Ndio mmiliki wa ukristo ,
Hao Anglicans , Lutheran,Moravians ,Pespeterians,Baptists ,Pentecoste , Orthodox ,Coptics ,seventh day Adventists ,Mormons nk na Christian denominations nyingine nyingi asili ni mali ya Vatican ? , how stupid are you ?
Fools

 

[Malaria 2]

Huyu ndiye mwanamfalme mwenye akili zaidi anayepatikana katika nchi za kiarabu. Hakuna kuwatetea magaidi.

Kweli anaakili. Lkn hajui kwamba makafiri wanahamu wainyakue Saudia.

 

[physician2023]

Hivi ukitaka short kati yakupata hao mabikira 72 unafanyaje? Au lazima niwe muislamu halafu niwe gaidi?

Mbona Yesu pia,hawa magaidi wa Israel walimsulubu na kumuua,na yeye yuko huko mbinguni,,mkono wa kuume wa Mungu,na anahukumu makabila 12,ya Israel,hapo si anajichagulia tu,anayemfaa katika hayo makabila 12.

 

[Kimbukiko]

Huu upuuzi wa kuponda dini na imani za watu ,ni ushenzi na ukosefu wa akili na maadili + busara .....


Mimi ni mkristo ila kuna wakristo feki humu wanaojiona wamekunywa maji ya msalaba kuliko wengine , mna guts za kutukana dini ya kiislamu kisa ushabiki wa hao mashoga zenu mnaowaabudu huko kwenye makanisa feki yenu kwa ujinga wenu wa kutoijua injili na Bible kiundani .
Wapumbavu wakubwa ,grow up !

 

[physician2023]

Kwa mujibu wa maandiko Yao lazima uwe muislamu na uwe unaua wenzako unaoamini si wa Imani Yako na hata wa Imani Yako unaotofautiana nao.

Kwa hoyo wataka kutuambia Yesu,aliuliwa ili na yeye akakaye mkono wa kuune wa Mungu ,ili ahukumu makabila 12 ya waisrael,?

 

[physician2023]

Huu upuuzi wa kuponda dini na imani za watu ,ni ushenzi na ukosefu wa akili na maadili + busara .....


Mimi ni mkristo ila kuna wakristo feki humu wanaojiona wamekunywa maji ya msalaba kuliko wengine , mna guts za kutukana dini ya kiislamu kisa ushabiki wa hao mashoga zenu mnaowaabudu huko kwenye makanisa feki yenu kwa ujinga wenu wa kutoijua injili na Bible kiundani .
Wapumbavu wakubwa ,grow up !

Umemaliza mjadala,kwanza Tanzania,utakuta familia moja,wapo wakristo na wapo waislamu,nimeshahudhuria shughuli nyingi tofauti,nikakuta mchanganyiko wa kifamilia wakristo na waislamu.

 

[Mbaga Jr]

Nchi imejengeka vzr kama Saudia na Qatar then unataka wakubali mambo ya vita? Mm mwnyw nngewakataa