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Hili wengi hawalijui!Wafalme wa Saudia kwa asili ni Mayahudi sasa unatarajia atatetea Waislamu wa Palestina!
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Hili wengi hawalijui!Wafalme wa Saudia kwa asili ni Mayahudi sasa unatarajia atatetea Waislamu wa Palestina!
Kuwasaidia palestina siyo lazima kukaribisha na kusaidia ughaidi. Jordan inawasidia sana wapalestina kisiasa na kibinadamu lakini hairuhusu ughaidi wa Hamas uingie nchi mwao. Vile vile Misri nayo inawasidia sana wapalestina lakini haikaribisha ughaidi wa hamas kwenye ardhi yake.Misri iliachana na upuuzi huo zamani sana ikifuatiwa na Jordan; baadaye ikawa hivyo kwa UAE, na sasa Saudi Arabia.
Imani huzaa Imani,pasipo kweli Imani ni ubatili na kufukuru.Kwenda kuhiji ni upuuzi na kupoteza mda tuu
Zinajitambuaaa misri ilikuwa inapotezwa na yule gamerMisri iliachana na upuuzi huo zamani sana ikifuatiwa na Jordan; baadaye ikawa hivyo kwa UAE, na sasa Saudi Arabia.
Sasa kuna na Wana Wa Mfalme wa Bongo akonaPrince wa Salman wa Saudi Arabia amesema kuwa hataki kujihusisha na mgogoro wa Palestine. Ana nchi yake na anapaswa aangalie mambo yanayohusu nchi yake.
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Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman told US Secretary of State Antony Blinken that he does not personally care about what he referred to as the "Palestinian issue", according to a report in The Atlantic.
Published on Wednesday, the report gave a picture of 11 months of Washington's negotiation efforts in the region after the outbreak of war in Gaza, citing "two dozen participants at the highest levels of government in America and across the Middle East".
It stated that during a visit to Saudi Arabia in January, Blinken and the crown prince met in the Saudi city of al-Ula to discuss the prospect of the Gulf kingdom normalising relations with Israel amid the ongoing Israeli war on Gaza.
Months earlier, Riyadh had appeared to be making progress in forming ties with Israel during US-led discussions, which were later derailed by the outbreak of war on 7 October.
If a normalisation deal were to occur, the crown prince expressed to Blinken a desire for calm in Gaza.
According to The Atlantic, Blinken enquired whether the Saudis could tolerate Israel periodically re-entering the territory to strike the besieged Gaza Strip.
“They can come back in six months, a year, but not on the back end of my signing something like this,” Mohammed bin Salman responded.
“Seventy percent of my population is younger than me,” the crown prince explained to Blinken.
“For most of them, they never really knew much about the Palestinian issue. And so they’re being introduced to it for the first time through this conflict. It’s a huge problem. Do I care personally about the Palestinian issue? I don’t, but my people do, so I need to make sure this is meaningful.”
No deal without a Palestinian state
A Saudi official described this account of the conversation to The Atlantic as “incorrect”.
In public, Mohammed bin Salman has stated that Saudi Arabia will not normalise relations with Israel without the establishment of a Palestinian state with East Jerusalem as its capital.
"The Kingdom will not cease its diligent efforts to establish an independent Palestinian state with East Jerusalem as its capital," he said at a recent annual address before the Shura Council in Riyadh.
"We confirm that Saudi Arabia will not establish diplomatic relations with Israel until that goal is achieved."
According to The Atlantic, in return for a normalisation deal with Israel, Saudi Arabia would seek to enter into a mutual defence treaty with Washington.
That would require ratification from two-thirds of the US Senate, which the crown prince told Blinken was most likely under a Biden administration. That was partly due to a perception that US progressives may back it if a Palestinian state was built into the deal.
Mohammed bin Salman told Blinken that pursuing a normalisation deal with Israel would come at great personal cost to him. He pointed at the example of Egyptian President Anwar Sadat, who was assasinated in 1981, a few years after signing a peace accord with Israel.
“Half my advisers say that the deal is not worth the risk,” the de-facto Saudi leader said. “I could end up getting killed because of this deal.”
Polling during the early stages of the war showed that over 90 percent of Saudis believed that Arab states should cut ties with Israel.
Despite that, there has been a crackdown on acts of Palestinian solidarity in Saudi Arabia, with reports of people being detained for expressing opinions on the conflict on social media, as well as for wearing a Palestinian keffiyeh in the holy city of Mecca.
'Full support for Palestine'
Earlier this month, Middle East Eye asked senior Saudi royal Prince Turki al-Faisal about the crackdown on Palestinian solidarity in the kingdom.
“I haven’t felt myself any restrictions on my expressions of support for Palestine in Saudi Arabia, nor have I seen any particular reporting on that,” he responded. “Except perhaps in some publications that are not friendly to Saudi Arabia.
“But what I see of the Saudi press, whether written or on television or in social media, is full support for Palestine and no restriction on expressing support for Palestinians.”
Prince Turki said that while he was not privy to official discussions, the chances of normalisation at present were slim due to Israel’s stance on Palestinian statehood.
“The whole [Israeli] government is saying no Palestinian state. So how can there be normalisation between us and them with those positions in place?”
Prince Turki also dismissed speculation that Hamas may have carried out its surprise attack on southern Israel - which killed around 1,140 people - in order to torpedo Saudi-Israel normalisation.
"For Hamas to have done what it did, it would have required [time] to prepare for it,” he said. “At least a couple of years to gather the human and material resources to launch a campaign like that.”
Aisee kumbe umeliona hilo halafu kuna wanaojua lugha pia ila kwa mahaba nao wanajifanya mazuzuNaona wengi wamesoma tu hayo maneno ya kiswahili basi
Ujinga sasa nan kakwambia mungu yupo maccaImani huzaa Imani,pasipo kweli Imani ni ubatili na kufukuru.
Au ningesema wp kaka? 😃😃😃Hahaha nimecheka ukaona liwale kaka
Waparesta sasa kwann watetewe wapambane na hali zaoHili wengi hawalijui!
Mtoto wa Al-Kaaba kazaliwa ndani ya msikiti lakini anawakana Waislam wenzake.Kwenda kuhiji ni upuuzi na kupoteza mda tuu
Jileusi tii linaloshindia mihogo na maandazi hata kinywa halikisafishi. Kanzu inanusha shombo la jasho lkn liko bize kuwatetea HamasHalafu jitu jingine jeusi tiiii kutoka liwale linakosa usingizi sababu ya Hamas na Hezbollah. Jinga kabsa
Na haoo wamakonde wanajidai waislamu haoo wafia din hawana akiliAu ningesema wp kaka? 😃😃😃
Waparesta ndiyo akina nani?Waparesta sasa kwann watetewe wapambane na hali zao
Hizo ni story ety moto pepo ujinga tuuu na upuuziiiMtoto wa Al-Kaaba kazaliwa ndani ya msikiti lakini anawakana Waislam wenzake.
Hizi Dini tunadanganywa sana.
Ndio maana Wasiojulikana utakuta ni Waislam na Wakristo. Ukijiuliza kwanini wanafanya haya wakati wanajua kuna Hukumu na Jehanamu? Jibu ni kwamba hizo jehanam na huku za siki ya mwisho ni Bosheni tu na wao wanajua ndio maana wanateka, wanatesa na wanaua. Wala hawana wasi wasi.
Sisi tu ndio wanatutia hofu ili tusiwabughudhi.
Haoo wanaojitaaa watoto wa ishumael aka waparestinaWaparesta ndiyo akina nani?
Dini ni uongòo mtupuu na upuuziiHalafu hiyo Saudi ndio wenye dini, haya mazombi mengine yamedandia tu.
Mtoto wa mtume anaogopa kufa? Sasa mbinguni atafikaje bila kufa kwanza?Mohammed bin Salman told Blinken that pursuing a normalisation deal with Israel would come at great personal cost to him. He pointed at the example of Egyptian President Anwar Sadat, who was assasinated in 1981, a few years after signing a peace accord with Israel.
Hahahaha na ndevuu nyingiii qumqmqkeJileusi tii linaloshindia mihogo na maandazi hata kinywa halikisafishi. Kanzu inanusha shombo la jasho lkn liko bize kuwatetea Hamas