Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

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Mambo mengine ya hovyo sana, sasa haya kama wangekubaliana toka awali Ukraine ingeharibiwa kiasi hicho? Kiko wapi sasa kile walichokuwa wanakisimamia na kujifanya "Hawataki kupangiwa"... Sasa hivi wametulua tuliii ka kuku alonyeshewa mvua.

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kama wasingepigana isingekuwa simple hiv kma russia wangekuwa wamekamata kiev na kharkiv mamb yangekuwa tofauti, wangeandka na upya mustakabali wa ukraine na kuweka watu wao km walivyofny east, ukraine isingejinasua kwe hio situation, atleast now kwa masharti hayo na ht km watakubal kuachia kule east na crimea ni sawa coz walishapotza hayo maeneo na hawakuwa na control nayo

 

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😀😀 Comedian ni Mpuuzi mmoja,alishindwa kulitambua hilo aliwategemea NATO+USA, akashindwa kujua kwamba endapo NATO na USA wangejiingiza kwenye hii vita directly basi huenda hata hizi comment za hapa jamii forum tungekua tunaandikiana kwa barua😀😀,#Viva PUTIN, pro russia wa vingunguti oyeeeee💪

km wasingepigana kutetea kiev na kharkiv saiv wangekuwa wananegotiate nn km urusi ingekuwa ina control maeneo hayo?? saiv ungesikia tu ukraine inaandika katiba mpya na kuandaa uchaguzi moscow wangekuwa wanacontrol everything....

 

[lee Vladimir cleef]

Russia’s announcement of a de-escalation in the Kiev direction is also due to the fact that there are people in Kyiv who need to make decisions, Medinsky said.

He added that the de-escalation in the Kiev and Chernigov directions does not mean a ceasefire.
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Hii ni nzuri sana

 

[lee Vladimir cleef]

Wasichopenda kusikia pro Russians ni kwamba warussia wamegwaya kuingia kyv

Soma hii utaelewa.

Russia’s announcement of a de-
escalation in the Kiev direction is also due to the fact that there are people in Kyiv who need to make decisions, Medinsky said.

He added that the de-escalation in the Kiev and Chernigov directions does not mean a ceasefire.
Galip SV Liwagu

 

[lee Vladimir cleef]

The United States will be ready to support possible agreements between Moscow and Kyiv in terms of ensuring the security of Ukraine - Blinken.
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Hovyo,
USA ni Wachawi TU.

 

[lee Vladimir cleef]

kama wasingepigana isingekuwa simple hiv kma russia wangekuwa wamekamata kiev na kharkiv mamb yangekuwa tofauti, wangeandka na upya mustakabali wa ukraine na kuweka watu wao km walivyofny east, ukraine isingejinasua kwe hio situation, atleast now kwa masharti hayo na ht km watakubal kuachia kule east na crimea ni sawa coz walishapotza hayo maeneo na hawakuwa na control nayo

Kwa hiyo wewe Mkuu unaamini kua Urusi kashimdwakukamta Kyiev?

 

[Omary - Msamalia]

Russia Lost the war, baada ya mazungumzo

Ukraine wamekubali kutokuwa na Upande na kutjiunga NATO kwa Makubaliano ya Kusaidiwa ulinzi na Mataifa ya NATO, pia Russia wamekubali Ukraine wajiunge na EU, This means ikitokea Russia anavunja Mkataba wake kwa Ukraine basi Itabidi apigane na Turkey, UK, US na Germany.

Hili ni somo kwetu ambao Marais wetu wananguvu ya kufanya hata wanayoambiwa na wenza wao

 

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ukraine itaenda kuwa km sweden, pia russia atakua ameipoteza rasmi ukraine, hawatajiunga nato but ni wazi wataimarisha maradufu ,mahusano yao na EU kuchumi na kisiasa

 

[MR MAJANGA]

Hapa mtaani kwangu tushaanza kutumia hiyo ruble ya urusi kama huna ruble hata maandazi hupati

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

[Gunst]

Wa-ukrain wanastahili kupongezwa kwa kupambana kulinda taifa lao.
Russia pamoja na mikwara yote na kujidai wababe lkn wametolewa kamasi.

Sasa hakuna tena kuteka nchi ila ni kukaa kwenye meza ya majadiliano.

 

[lee Vladimir cleef]

Wa-ukrain wanastahili kupongezwa kwa kupambana kulinda taifa lao.
Russia pamoja na mikwara yote na kujidai wababe lkn wametolewa kamasi.

Sasa hakuna tena kuteka nchi ila ni kukaa kwenye meza ya majadiliano.

Pole sana ndugu.

 

[Mwanamkiwi]

Kwa ramani hii ni wazi Ukraine yote itazungukwa.

Ramani inaonyesha tu kamba jeshi la Urusi lilifaulu kuvamia sehemu za kando - hakuna kuzunguka Ukraine yote??

 

[kagoshima]

Soma hii utaelewa.

Russia’s announcement of a de-
escalation in the Kiev direction is also due to the fact that there are people in Kyiv who need to make decisions, Medinsky said.

He added that the de-escalation in the Kiev and Chernigov directions does not mean a ceasefire.
Galip SV Liwagu

Ili uteke kyv inatakiwa uingize ground boots. Hapo ndipo mizoga ya Russians ingezagaa mitaani

 

[Yamungu Athumani]

ukraine itaenda kuwa km sweden, pia russia atakua ameipoteza rasmi ukraine, hawatajiunga nato but ni wazi wataimarisha maradufu ,mahusano yao na EU kuchumi na kisiasa

Mmarekani wa Machame

 

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Kwa hiyo wewe Mkuu unaamini kua Urusi kashimdwakukamta Kyiev?

, kiuchumi na kisiasa na jinsi vita ilivyokuwa inazidi kuwa bloody kila kukicha haikuwa ktk interest ya urusi kuendelea, shida unaangalia ktk angle ya kijeshi pekee. kuhusu swal lako km vita ikiendelea mda mrefu kiev itaanguka maana russia ina uwezo mkubwa kuliko ukraine

 

[Imeloa]

Marekani imekuwa ikiiomba na kuibembeleza Turkey ipeleke S-400 air-defense system yake huko Ukraine ili Ukraine iweze kujikinga na mashambulizi ya anga ya Russia.

Ktk kubembeleza huko, Marekani akamwambia Erdoğan kuwa akiipeleka S-400 Ukraine, Marekani itaondoa vikwazo ilivyoiwekea Turkey wakati iliponunua S-400. Pia Marekani ikamwambia Erdoğan akifanya hivyo, Marekani itamrejeshea Turkey program yake ya kununua pisi 100 za ndege za F-35 (ikumbukwe Turkey alikuwa ni mbia 'partner' ktk project ya kutengeneza ndege hizo za F-35, ali-fund hiyo project na alihusika ktk utengenezaji, ingawa aliondolewa ubia baada ya kununua S-400 ya Russia)

Pamoja na ahadi zote ikiwemo kuuziwa hiyo midoli 100 ya F-35, Turkey amekataa kuitoa S-400, mfumo makini na bora zaidi wa Ulinzi wa anga.

Mwambieni Marekani apeleke ma-vyuma vyuma yake chakavu (THAAD, Patriot PAC-3 n.k) Ukraine ikalipuliwe yote na Russia, watu hawataki ku-sucrifice S-400 ya Russia (USD milioni 300) kwa kupewa midoli 100 ya F-35 (jumla: USD triloni 7.8 ! ,midoli ambayo imeweka rekodi nzuri sana ya ku-crush hovyo hovyo kila mwaka).

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Russia wameshindwa kuipindua serikali halali ya Ukraine pamoja na uwepo wa hizo S-400 air defence systems na matokeo yake wamepoteza maaskari wengi na silaha kibau.

 

[for life]

Ila Marekani inatia huruma Sasa hivi,angekua ni mtu tungesema kachanganyikiwa.
Halafu Haina uso wa aibu.
Hapo mwanzo waliikataza Uturuki isinunue S400,Leo inaitaka iipeleke Ukraine.
Aisee si Huwa tunaambiwa USA ni super power?
Sasa kwa Nini asipeleke vifaa alivyotengeneza yeye?.
Mbona St Juvelin kapeleka?
Kwa mawazo yangu,anaogopa kuwa hizo Thaad zake zitakua overcomed naakombora ya Urusi halafu atapata aibu sana na nchi nyingi zitaacha kununua silaha zake na kwenda kununua silaha za Urusi.
Yaani anaogopa kuonekana silaha ngao zake zinazidiwa na za Urusi.

Asee this is not America itz ameruka

 

[Bwana Utam]

Russian special forces captured two Ukrainian soldiers who were torturing Russian servicemen.

This was announced by the deputy head of the State Duma Committee on the development of civil society, issues of public and religious associations Vladimir Shamanov:

“Those who mocked our servicemen, they did not rejoice for long, after three days our special forces captured these bastards. Today they roll at their feet, begging for mercy.

We are talking about Ukrainian citizens from the fan group of the local Metalist football club - Sergey Velichko and Konstantin Nemichev. “They themselves told this during the first interrogations,” Shamanov added.
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Kila baada ya dakika moja wawe wanakata kipande cha nyama kwenye miili yahao wapuuzi nakuwatupia UMBWA
Wasiwape KULA mpaka waagane na nyongo bila ya kusahau na virungu vya UGOGO
MBWA hao

 

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mwezi february lavrov alifny ziara central asia aliwahakikishia majiran wake eneo hilo kuwa urusi haina nia ovu dhidi ya ardhi zao, hiz ni nchi rafiki but still urusi ikaona izihakikishie usalama wao, hivi ndio vitu muhim sn hasa kpnd hiki ambacho west wanaipaint urusi km nchi aggressive kwa jiran zake, central asians wamekua kimya kabisa kuhusu vita vya ukraine

 

[Bwana Utam]

Ukraine imeamua kusalimu amri, imesema haitaki tena ndoa yake na NATO...ila imeomba kupewa hakikisho la usalama wake kwa Russia.

Russia nayo imeamua kusitisha mashambulio yake kwenye miji ya Kyiv na Chernihiv, ili kujenga uaminifu juu ya majadiliano yatakayoendelea

Ukraine pia imekubali kutatua mzozo wa Crimea kupitia majadiliano ya pande mbili na Russia

Kichapo kinalipa!

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Haya waanze kujenga hayo mamagofu yao UMBWA hao
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