Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Unataka niwe kama wale waliosema Operation ya masaa 72 tu na leo tunakwenda mwezi wa pili.Hapana siwezi kuweka time frame lakini uhakika nilionao ni muda ni Mwalimu mzuri sana.
Shoga angu mwenye kishundu mjini... sasa lini uchumi wa Russia utashuka? Maana kusema utashuka bila hata kuweka facts au muda unakua ni umbea shoga angu. Hata mie naweza kusema dollar itapoteza dominance duniani.. maana kuropoka ni easy shoga... hehehee...
 
Akiongea anaeleweka... [emoji635] Putin [emoji298]"I often hear questions about is it possible to be quicker? It is possible. It depends on the intensity of the hostilities, and the intensity of the hostilities, unfortunately, has to do with casualties in one way or another."

"Our objective is to achieve all our goals while minimizing these casualties. And we will act rhythmically, calmly, according to the plan that was originally proposed by the General Staff"

Kisha linganisheni na maelezo ya huyu mzee anaejisifu kutoa ya Order ya kulipua Yugoslaviia... Sasa ile Gut ya kumuita mwenzie War Criminal.. mara Butcher, anaitoa wapi
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Ukraine Marines Post "Farewell" Message from Mariupol​

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This morning the 36th Separate Marine Brigade of the Ukrainian military defending Mariupol released a "farewell" message on their Facebook page saying they are running out of ammunition and asking Ukrainians to remember them. [translated]

FULL TEXT (Translated)
“Dear Ukrainian people. We, the 36th Marine Brigade named after Rear Admiral Mikhail Belinsky, left the Crimea without changing the oath of 2014 and continued to adequately fulfill the tasks of defending Ukraine.

Since the beginning of the war, we have been defending Mariupol for 47 days. We were bombed from planes, we were fired upon from artillery, tanks and other weapons. We defended with dignity, doing the impossible. But any resources that have a property run out.

During the hostilities, we were once given 50,122 shells, 20 mines and a few “enlaves” and Elon Musk’s Starlink - thanks, Elon, he withstood a lot of air strikes and is still working. Nothing more was given to us.

Without B / C, not being able to defend ourselves, the enemy gradually pushed us back to the Azovmash plant, surrounded us, bound us with fire, and now is trying to destroy us. There was an option to bring reserves to us in order to strengthen and continue the defense. There were options for the brigade to make a breakthrough and go out to their troops. We reported this to OTU "Vostok" and they began to plan the operation. Sodol, Delyatitsky tried to do something, but their senior staffs turned away. We reported this to the OOS, they said "hold on, we are working," they promised a helicopter, which never arrived. We talked with the commander in chief, who promised to deblockade.

We spoke with the Guarantor, who guaranteed us either a political or military solution to the situation. For more than a month, the Marines fought without replenishment of ammunition, without food, without water, almost slurping from a puddle, and dying in packs. The mountain of the wounded makes up almost half of the brigade. Those who have not been torn off limbs and can walk are returned to duty. The infantry was all killed, and artillerymen, anti-aircraft gunners, signalmen, drivers and cooks are conducting rifle battles. Even the orchestra. We are slowly ending.

Wise generals advise taking ammunition from the enemy. Probably, these soviet SUVs have not died out, so a lot of people will die for them in vain. There were chances. There were opportunities, but because of the cowardice of reporting vertically, they were not realized. No one wants to communicate with us anymore, because we are decommissioned. Today there will probably be an extreme fight, since there is no BC left. Next, hand to hand. Further, for some, death, and for some, captivity."


Hal Turner Remark:
Perhaps if the government they're trying to defend didn't spend eight years bombing civilians in Luhansk and Donetsk, or sign the Minsk Agreement then utterly fail to abide by it for five years, or absorb NAZIS into its government, police, and military, none of them would be in the position they're in now.
It's hard to feel sorry for men who are trying to defend the indefensible (ideologically.) They are CHOOSING death.
They still can surrender. If they don't, then they made the choice to die when they also had a clear choice to live.
 
Ni kweli. Mabavu hayajawahi kuwa na hitimisho sahihi la muda mrefu. Mwisho wa siku lazima uweke silaha chini mzungumze kama binadamu.
Saa nyingine mabavu huwa yana saidia hasa kwa mtu mkaidi.
Sasa hivi Ukraine imesharegeza kamba kwa baadhi ya mambo ambapo bila ya mtutu wa bunduki isinge yalegeza hata wange zungumza miaka 100.
 
Na ukiangalia kampuni zote kwa sasa hakuna anayeagiza ndege kutoka boeing au Airbus.wameagiza kutoka sukhoiView attachment 2185086
Asante, uliona kama Irkut MC-21 imefika sokoni? Yaani wameuza lakini walipanga kuitoa kuanzia 2022. Halafu naona injini yake ni Pratt+Whitley, yaani Kiingereza. Haviathiriwi na vikwazo??? Wanatumia pia injini za Aviadvigatel ambazo ni kirusi. Ila hata kampuni hiyo inatumia vipuli kutoka Marekani (hiv yo hawakuweza kuuza hadi sasa kwa Iran),
Irkut MC-21 ingelingana na Airbus A320 na Boeing 737. Hii ingesaidia kwa sehemu kubwa ya soko la ndani ya Urusi (si kwa yote - haifikii umbali)
Lakini kama inaathiriwa na vikwazo kuhusu vipuli - sijui kama itakuja.
 
Duhhh
 
Putin amesema mazungumzo ya amani na Ukraine yamefeli...aapa kuendeleza kugawa kipigo...

Asante sana Putin, uzuri wako hukuyahitaji hayo mazungumzo...ni yule muigizaji ndiye aliyekuwa akilialia akutane nawe na pia ukakacha kukutana nae hadi maofisa wa ngazi za chini wamalize michakato yao...

 
Walishafanya muda maana vikwazo vilianza toka 2014 wala sio leo
 
Kweli ulisema nikajibu ujielimishe kwa bahati mbaya hujafanya. Hakuna jeshi linalogoma??? Unachekesha, kwanza fungua macho yako Afrika, eti serikali hizo zote za kijeshi zimetokea kwa kumtii amiri jeshi mkuu?? Unachekesha! Walimpindua na kujiweka mahali pake.

Amiri jeshi mkuu kabisa katika historia (angalau mmojawapo) alikuwa Aleksander Mashuhuri. Jeshi lake liligoma mw. 326 KK alipotaka kuvamia Uhindi (hujasikia bado? Basi jisomee!).
Mgomo mashuhuri wa wanamaji wa Urusi kwenye manowari Potemkin mwaka 1905
Mgomo wa jeshi la Urusi kwenye mwaka 2017 uliompindua Tsar (mfalme) wa Urusi
Vilevile 1917 mgomo mashuhuri wa jeshi la Ufaransa, ulikandamizwa kwa kupeleka maelfu mbele ya mahakama ya kijeshi na kuua wengi
Mfalme wa Ujerumani (kisheria wakati ule hata mfalme wa Tanganyika) alipinduliwa baada ya mgomo wa jeshi la wanamaji mjini Wilhelmshaven mwaka 1918
Jeshi la Pakistan iliona mgomo wa vikosi vyake katika Pakistan-MAshariki walioamua kupigania upande wa uhuru wa Bangla Desh
2014 wanajeshi 54 wa jeshi la Nigeria walipewa adhabu ya mauti kwa sababu walikataa kushambulia mji uliovamiwa na Boko Haram (sijui kama ilitekelezwa)
2022 uvamizi wa Odessa ilisimamishwa kwa sababu kundi la wanamaji Warudi waligoma ghafla walipoambiwa washambulie kutoka meli zao (ona Российские морпехи-срочники устроили бунт, когда им приказали высадиться «прямо в Одессу» | Новости Одессы)
Na huyu dikteta wa Belarus yuko to kwa sababu Putim alisaidia baada yeye kugushi uchaguzi. Wafanya kazi wa reli ya Belarus waliharibu njia za reli mara kadhaa ili Warusi wasipeleke vifaa Ukraine. Wengi walishangaa kwa nini jeshi la Belarus haikushiriki hadi sasa. BAsi kuna habari mara kwa mara kwamba wanaogopa mgomo.

Kama wewe, mtaalamu wa historia ya mgomo wa kijeshi, unaona haiwezekani, labda ninapaswa kusalimu amri mbele ya ubora wa elimu yako???
 
Wanataka kuwaua kinyama sana

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Watu wengi wanaichukulia poa sana Urusi awajui kuwa asilimia 80 ya viwanda vya Umoja wa soviety vilikuwa Urusi.na ndo ivi wanaviendeleza mpaka leo hii.stalin alijitahidi sana kuijenga Urusi na Ukraine.
 
Mkuu nadhani nia ya Urusi undeclared ni kui-annex Ukraine kabisa.This has been done before,na nahisi hata sasa ndio nia yao.Ngoja tusubiri.
Hilo limeshashindikana, labda wayapore hayo majimbo ya mashariki.
 
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