Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

[Omary - Msamalia]

Sawa imezama,sio ndio vita ilivyo?

Ni vita au Operation?

 

[Oxlade-Chamberlain]

Hapana sio kwamba nabishana, Taarifa iliyotolewa na wao niliyoisoma inasema "Moskva flagship Cruiser sinks while Being Towed to Port ..."

Ilizama akati inavutwa sio kwamba imzama baada ya kupigwa.

Mfano itokee ajali gari liwake, lije tow lianze kuivuta, njiani wakati linavutwa lidondoke... Hii kauli ya kusema kua Gari limewaka lkapinduka kwako ni sahihi?

Mapenzi kitu kibaya sana.

Haya kulitokea itilafu ya umeme ikawaka moto na wakati wa kui tow bahati mbaya ikazama. Hii kweli Mv Mapinduzi.

Yamekwisha ilipita Nungwi ikazama.

 

[Oxlade-Chamberlain]

Amid poor condition 😀😀😀🏃🏃🏃

Ilikuwa inapita Nungwi hio ha ha ha

 

[triga]

Huitaji kuwa na miaka 800 kujua lengo la Russia kwenda Ukraine lilikuwa kubadili utawala, na lengo la Russia ilikuwa kuuteka mji wa Kiev ambao ni seat of power ya Serikali ya Ukraine.

Pia kupitia aina ya Mashambulizi ambayo Russia ilifanya 24-Feb.. Russia siku ya kwanza ilifanya mashambulizi Kutokea Angani, Majini, na nchi Kavu, Russia iliivamia Ukraine kutokea Russia, Beralus na Krimea, that was a full scale invasion na zaidi Putin alitoa wito kwa Askari wa Ukraine Wasipigane badala yake Wamtoe Rais wao madarakani, hili tu linatosha kuona kuwa Putin alishindwa kuwashawishi Waukraine

Ulichoandika ni maoni yako. Tunahitaji facts zaidi tuweze kuamini. Na Hata kama Russia aliishambulia Ukraine kutokea mbinguni haithibitishi lengo lilikuwa 'kuiteka' Ukraine.

Mtuambie nyie mnaosema lengo lilikuwa kuiteka ukraine ili iweje!? Ipi succession plan baada ya kuisalimisha Ukraine kwenye himaya ya Russia.

Nyingine ulizojaza hapa ni assumptions tu. neither here nor there. Lengo la Russia ni kuiteka kiev blah blah

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[Omary - Msamalia]

Ulichoandika ni maoni yako. Tunahitaji facts zaidi tuweze kuamini. Na Hata kama Russia aliishambulia Ukraine kutokea mbinguni haithibitishi lengo lilikuwa 'kuiteka' Ukraine.

Mtuambie nyie mnaosema lengo lilikuwa kuiteka ukraine ili iweje!? Ipi succession plan baada ya kuisalimisha Ukraine kwenye himaya ya Russia.

Nyingine ulizojaza hapa ni assumptions tu. neither here nor there. Lengo la Russia ni kuiteka kiev blah blah

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So Russia ilienda Ukraine ili watu wake wafe?

 

[Omary - Msamalia]

Mapenzi kitu kibaya sana.

Haya kulitokea itilafu ya umeme ikawaka moto na wakati wa kui tow bahati mbaya ikazama. Hii kweli Mv Mapinduzi.

Yamekwisha ilipita Nungwi ikazama.

🤣🤣 hawa watu wanahitaji ushauri

 

[wa kupuliza]

NATO=NO ACTION TALK ONLY.

 

[triga]

kujua km kashndwa au hajashindwa ni lazima tujue kwnz malengo yak ni yapi, as long as hatujui malengo haswa ya putin ni yapi ni ngumu kusema kachemka au vp, sema kila mtu anajaribu kuanalyze kadri ya upeo wake malengo ya urusi ni yapi then kulngana na current situation ameshindwa au lah, so ni mtazamo tu

Kwa mujibu wa Putin mwenyewe kwa mdomo wake malengo yalikuwa mtatu kam sio manne. Refer hotuba yake akitangaza kuanzisha operesheni y kijeshi Ukraine.

1. Demilitarize ukr
2. Denazify ukr
3. Russian speaking Ukrainians kwenye eneo la donbass

Kushindwa ni kupi mpaka sasa kama malengo yalikuwa hayo.

Watu (Pronato) hawataki kuanalyze achievement za urusi kwa kuzingatia malengo hayo bali wao wanasema lengo ilikuwa kuiteka ukr. Sijui wamepata wapi lengo hilo ukiwauliza hawakupi majibu makini. Kwa sababu hawana majibu. Na hawana majibu kwa sababu hilo sio lengo.





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[Tsh]

Ulichoandika ni maoni yako. Tunahitaji facts zaidi tuweze kuamini. Na Hata kama Russia aliishambulia Ukraine kutokea mbinguni haithibitishi lengo lilikuwa 'kuiteka' Ukraine.

Mtuambie nyie mnaosema lengo lilikuwa kuiteka ukraine ili iweje!? Ipi succession plan baada ya kuisalimisha Ukraine kwenye himaya ya Russia.

Nyingine ulizojaza hapa ni assumptions tu. neither here nor there. Lengo la Russia ni kuiteka kiev blah blah

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Hili swali umeliuliza ila halijibiwi kwa sababu unatumia neno kuteka.

Labda ili swali lijibike inabidi turudi mwanzo na ujibu swali moja jepesi, Puttin alipokuwa anatangaza OP yake mwanzoni, alitoa maagizo gani kwa askari wa Ukraine?

 

[Yoda]

Umedandia treni kwa mbele

Ni technolojia gani Urusi ananunua kutoka India!? Tena yenye mkonk wa marekani

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[Cash Generating Unit]

Waliowa Bucha na wanaouwa kwa makombora kutokea Russia na Belarus ni ngedere.

Hana uwezo wa kutumia ndege kwenye anga la Ukraine.

Bucha ni Photoshop sahiv unaona yanaongelewa?? Zile zilikua njama za US tu hakuna ukweli wa hilo, Russia sio wauaji kama hao mnaowaabudu.

Embu tukumbushie mauaji ya Iran, iraq, yugoslavia, syria, palestina. Acha kukaza fuvu hilo

 

[Mathanzua]

INTEL: U.S. Delta Forces and U.K. "SAS" Fighting inside Ukraine since February!​

A source in the French intelligence community reportedly informed a Le Figaro reporter last week that elite special forces from the UK and the US have been deployed in Ukraine since the start of hostilities with Russia in late February.
The claim was made public by the newspaper’s senior international journalist Georges Malbrunot on Saturday, the same day that British Prime Minister Boris Johnson paid an unexpected visit to Kiev. Although this information has not been officially confirmed, the British leader was reportedly accompanied by special SAS guards.
SAS units “have been present in Ukraine since the beginning of the war, as did [sic] the American Deltas,” Malbrunot tweeted, citing a French intelligence source. He went on to say that Russia was well aware of the “secret war” waged against its troops by foreign commandos, according to the source. His information was mentioned in Le Figaro’s Ukraine updates.
The French journalist who returned from Ukraine after arriving with volunteer fighters told broadcaster CNews that "Americans are directly “in charge” of the war on the ground."
The United Kingdom and the United States have been among Kiev’s most ardent military supports. Johnson is said to have personally urged his Ukrainian colleague, Volodymyr Zelensky, to continue fighting Russia until better terms are presented.

 

[Yoda]

Sasa mbona sasa hivi Ukraine ina silaha nyingi na wanajeshi wengi kuliko kabla vita havijaanza

Kwa mujibu wa Putin mwenyewe kwa mdomo wake malengo yalikuwa mtatu kam sio manne. Refer hotuba yake akitangaza kuanzisha operesheni y kijeshi Ukraine.

1. Demilitarize ukr
2. Denazify ukr
3. Russian speaking Ukrainians kwenye eneo la donbass

Kushindwa ni kupi mpaka sasa kama malengo yalikuwa hayo.

Watu (Pronato) hawataki kuanalyze achievement za urusi kwa kuzingatia malengo hayo bali wao wanasema lengo ilikuwa kuiteka ukr. Sijui wamepata wapi lengo hilo ukiwauliza hawakupi majibu makini. Kwa sababu hawana majibu. Na hawana majibu kwa sababu hilo sio lengo.





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[Yoda]

Huu uzi ni Waswahili, weka taarifa yako kwa lugha ya Kishwali. Uache copy and paste.

INTEL: U.S. Delta Forces and U.K. "SAS" Fighting inside Ukraine since February!​

A source in the French intelligence community reportedly informed a Le Figaro reporter last week that elite special forces from the UK and the US have been deployed in Ukraine since the start of hostilities with Russia in late February.
The claim was made public by the newspaper’s senior international journalist Georges Malbrunot on Saturday, the same day that British Prime Minister Boris Johnson paid an unexpected visit to Kiev. Although this information has not been officially confirmed, the British leader was reportedly accompanied by special SAS guards.
SAS units “have been present in Ukraine since the beginning of the war, as did [sic] the American Deltas,” Malbrunot tweeted, citing a French intelligence source. He went on to say that Russia was well aware of the “secret war” waged against its troops by foreign commandos, according to the source. His information was mentioned in Le Figaro’s Ukraine updates.
The French journalist who returned from Ukraine after arriving with volunteer fighters told broadcaster CNews that "Americans are directly “in charge” of the war on the ground."
The United Kingdom and the United States have been among Kiev’s most ardent military supports. Johnson is said to have personally urged his Ukrainian colleague, Volodymyr Zelensky, to continue fighting Russia until better terms are presented.

 

[Cash Generating Unit]

Vita ndio mpango halisi wa shetani. Ungekuwa unamchukia sana shetani ungeanza kwa kumlaani Putin.

Putin nampa heshima ya nguvu, ndo kiongozi pekee aliyebaki atakayetupeleka kwenye multipolar world. Ndo kiongozi pekee asiyetingishwa na west, ni kiongozi pekee anayeweza ongea maovu ya west bila woga.

Putin anaheshimika worldwide usimfananishe na babu yenu kabisa. Tulienu aendelee kuwa PUT IN.

 

[Mathanzua]

World​

FLASH: KIEV BEING BOMBED . . . NOW​

WORLD HAL TURNER 14 APRIL 2022 HITS: 17786
As of 7:13 PM eastern US time on Thursday, 14 April, the city of Kiev, capital of Ukraine, is being heavily bombed by the Russian Army. Video below.



No way to determine if this has anything to do with the missile strikes upon the Russian Guided Missile Frigate "Moskva" which suffered multiple fires and multiple explosions, then sank in the Black Sea last night.
UPDATE 7:21 PM EDT --
Explosions are heard near the government quarter, the Ministry of Defense and the SBU.
Powerful explosions and blackouts in Kiev.
Elsewhere now, Reports of explosions and shooting in Kharkov.
Nikolaev - explosions.
Ivano-Frankovsk (Western Ukraine) - The last oil refining plant in Ukraine is being destroyed.

 

[triga]

So Russia ilienda Ukraine ili watu wake wafe?

Kwa hiyo hiyo ndio namna (methodology) iliyokufikisha kwenye kuamua kwamba lengo lilikuwa kuiteka Ukr!?

Nakujibu swali lako
Russia haikwenda ukr ili watu wake wafe bali ilikwenda ukr kuivunja nguvu ya kijeshi ya ukr, kuwaondoa manazi waukraine na kuwasaidia wakreni wenye asili ya urusi kwenye maeneo ya donbass kwa mujibu wa raisi Putin aliyetangaza na kuifanya operation ya kijeshi huko ukr kwenye hotuba yake . Katika kufanya hayo ndio baadhi ya wrusi wameuawa kwenye hiyo mission. Ni kawaida.

Nimekujibu na kukupa na ushahidi. Wewe hujajibu swali uliloulizwa badala yake umeuliza swali (namna mbaya ya kujadiliana). Typical ProNato[emoji1787]

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[Cash Generating Unit]

Ni technolojia gani Urusi ananunua kutoka India!? Tena yenye mkonk wa marekani

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Hapo ndo nmeona jamaa ni kilaza sana.

 

[Cash Generating Unit]

NATO=NO ACTION TALK ONLY.

NO ACTION TALK ONLY[emoji28][emoji28][emoji28] wazee wa vikao

 

[babu na mjukuu]

Huyu kuna kitu katika maisha yake binafsi au familia yake hakipo sawa na pengine ana muathirika wa karibu sana wa hiyo tabia,matokeo yake ndiyo haya ya kila mahari kuongelea hilo swala.Asipojitambua na kupata msaada wa kisaikolojia atazidi kuharibikiwa zaidi.

Uelewa wako ni mdogo sana. Hebu chunguza wanaoshabikia wamagharibi,asilimia kubwa kama si mashoga basi watakuwa na homoni za kike

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