Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

[T14 Armata]

Ushahidi wa Hilo uko wapi?Russia anasema ni ajali ya moto na akatoa na video inayoonesha hakuna missile strike yoyote kabla ya meli kulipuka!
Ukraine anasema yeye ndiye kaishambulia,Sasa wewe umeamua kuchagua kuamini kinachosemwa na Ukraine!
Mpaka Sasa vyombo vyote,BBC,Aljazeera,France 24 vinareport habari bila kusema kuwa meli imelipuliwa au ilipata ajali ya moto na kulipuka!
Sasa wewe ni nani mpaka uwe na uhakika na unachokisema?Umeverify habari Yako kupitia wapi?Tupe na sisi link ya Ili nasi tuwe na uthibitisho wa Hilo usemalo!

Umeamua kukubaliana na Russia waliosema meli imezama kwa dhoruba, sasa unabishana na mimi nini. Wewe meli yenu imeungua moto na kuzama kwa dhoruba. Mimi nasema meli ya Russia imepigwa na makombora ya Ukraine, wakafanya evacuation, ikawa tugged, ikazama. Hakuna haja ya kubishana vitu waziwazi

 

[Post M-alone]

Mrusi wa Mchambawima huyo

Hongera kwa Ukraine kushinda hii vita😂😂😂..

 

[MWANAHARAMU]

Mapinduzi ya MAidan walifanya wananchi. Baadaye walikuwa na uchaguzi huru mara mbili.
Unajua matokeo?? Hapana hujui. Nikusaidie: Chama cha Svoboda (penye wafuasi wa itikadi wa Bandera) ilishuka nchini na chini hadi kufikia 2% pekee na mbunge 1 (mmoja). Wapi neonazi nje ya propaganda ya Urusi - na labda kati ya hizi asilimia 2??)
Onyesha mfano jinsi gani chama chenye asilimia 2 inakamata serikali??? Imekataliwa.
Tukijadili sehemu ya 2%: kwenye msingi gani unadai ni wengi au muhimu???
Eleza Bwana!

Ile ilianzishwa na majasusi kutoka west, kataa?

Maidan square ilianzishwa ili kuiondoa serikari iliyopo madarakani ambayo ilikuwa na mrengo wa Mashariki iliyokuwa ikiongozwa na victor yanukovch.

Unafikiri walioingia madarakani ni kina nani?
Manationalist na watu walio kwenye vikundi vya Azov.

Chaguzi zilizofanyika baada ya hapo ni lazima watu wao washinde.

Kumbuka mzozo huu ndio ulizaa watu wa mashariki mwa Ukraine kutaka kujitenga.

Hawakuwa wananchi kama unavyosema wewe? Acha propaganda

 

[sundoka]

Ukisusa wenzio wala[emoji2][emoji2]

 

[Axel Lloyd]

Calls Inside Russia for "Formal Declaration of War"​

The destruction of Russia's Guided Missile Cruiser "Moskva" is prompting calls in Russia for the "special military operation" to be upgraded into a formal declaration of war with Ukraine.
Developing, check back.

Hii Meli warusi imewauma Sana inaonekana hawakutegemea Kama ingezamishwa. Na hii itakua fundisho kwao maana kuanzia sasa wataanza kuogopa pwani ya Ukraine.

 

[bibingi]

Da aisee hata Mimi najiuliza hizo dumu kubwa ni za Nini?
Tuombe Mungu,huko mbele titasikia makubwa na ya kutishia.
Maana Urusi kwa siku ya Jana kaionya USA iache kupeleka silaha Ukraine,kufanya hivyo ni kumwaga mafuta kwenye moto.

Duhh ok

 

[Post M-alone]

Wachambuzi wa nato hebu tuelezeeni.

Hio meli ilipigwa saa ngapi? na ilipigwa na kombora ngapi?

Kombora lipi lilitumika na linafanya vipi kazi? gharama? uwezo wake n.k

Je meli ilipigwa sehemu gani? chini, juu.....

Ilichukua muda gani kuzama baada ya shambulio?

Je hilo kombora lilitokea sehemu ipi? baharini, ardhini au angani?

Hakuna hayo maelezo hizo ni ngonjera, hata F35 huwa zinaanguka zenyewe tu pasipo kuguswa...

 

[Neter]

Russian Long-Range Bombers Strike Ukraine For 1st Time In War​

For the first time since the Feb.24 invasion, it's being widely reported that the Russian military has struck Ukrainian targets using long-range bombers. Ukrainian defense ministry spokesman Oleksandr Motuzyanyk said Friday that bombs were dropped by Tu-22M3 aircraft over positions in the port city of Mariupol.
"On April 14, two Russian strategic heavy bombers Tu-95/-160 have launched cruise missiles hitting the territory of Ukraine from Krasnodar Krai of Russian Federation airspace," he said. "Also for the first time from the start of the armed aggression bombs were dropped by a long-range bombers Tu-22M3. This airstrike took place, hitting Mariupol."
Tupolev Tu-22M Strategic Bomber Aircraft, file image

It's believed Russian forces are attempting to secure a corridor that stretches from Mariupol to the Crimean Peninsula as the war for the Donbas region heats up. Motuzyanyk described that there are still major street battles happening in and near Mariupol, which before the war had nearly 500,000 people.
The use of long-range bombers could signal the start of a new Russian strategy. The Kremlin has recently admitted it's suffered bigger than expected casualties, with many analysts pointing out that so far Russia has been restrained when it comes to major bombing raids on Ukrainian cities.
It also became evident early on that Russia's military appeared to be restraining its use of airpower, resulting in many instances of unprotected tank convoys being ambushed with often foreign-supplied anti-tank missiles, such as the Javelin.
The timing of this latest development is interesting also given the Thursday sinking of the Moskva cruiser off Odessa's coast, which was considered the Russian Navy's flagship in the Black Sea. It was reportedly hit by a pair of Neptune anti-ship missiles, and Ukraine is celebrating it as a major victory. This as Russia claimed the ship was destroyed by accidental fire which ignited munitions.

The warship's sinking is likely to mark a significant shift for the Kremlin. After suffering such major losses, Russia has more incentive to practice less restraint - which is perhaps why long-rage bombers are apparently now in use.
This week CIA Director William Burns testified that he sees that a lengthy conflict will play out. And it goes without saying that none of this will be good for global food and energy security.


Additionally, Moscow has freshly warned Washington this week to stop supplying arms to Kiev, warning of "unpredictable consequences" to come by continuing down this path. Indeed given Russia is now losing entire warships, and with a crew of over 500 having to be evacuated, the war has just entered a new unpredictable phase.

The fact is that the height of the Tu-22M3 is so high that all kinds of stingers and other NATO gifts simply cannot get them

 

[Axel Lloyd]

Mkuu kuna meli ya Marekani ilisha wahi kupingwa kombora na magaidi ikiwa pwani ya Yemen sema wao haikuwazama waliwahi kuzima moto ila iliharibiwa vibaya sana unazungumziaje hilo?

Haya mameli ya Marekani unayo yasifu kila siku drone za Iran huwa zinapaa juu ya hayo mameli na hayaoni chochote wana shutuka video inasambaa kwenye mitandao ya kijamii ikiyaonesha hayo mameli yananyo fanya kazi mpaka Marekani ilirazimika kuipiga mkwara Iran ili iache hiyo tabia.

Hakuna Meli ya Marekani iliyowahi kupigwa Makombora na magaidi wa Yemen ikaharibiwa vibaya,kuna incident ilitokea hao magaidi walirusha Makombora yakaishia kudondoka majini kabla ya kuifikia Meli ya USN haikueleweka kama Marekani walijam hayo Makombora au la.

Hiyo habari hii hapa Yemen conflict: Missiles fired at US warship in Red Sea

 

[President of China]

📌 The latest on the Ukraine operation from the Russian Defence Ministry:

▪️ Russian military, DPR forces have liberated the "Mariupol Metallurgical Plant named after Illich" from Ukrainian nationalists;

▪️ The Russian Army destroyed the Zhulyansk machine-building plant using Kalibr missiles;

▪️ Russian Forces have killed up to 30 Polish mercenaries in Izyumskoe, Kharkov Region;

▪️ Russian air defences have shot down a Ukrainian Mi-8 helicopter using an S-400 anti-aircraft missile system;

▪️ High-precision air-based missiles destroyed a Tochka-U, up to 20 Ukrainian armoured vehicles, and as many as 50 nationalists near Yasenovoe, Ukraine

 

[Axel Lloyd]

[emoji779]️Only 14 members of the Moskva crew returned to Sevastopol. The fate of almost 500 sailors is unknown, media reported.
Meanwhile, Forbes considered that "Moscow" is the most expensive trophy in the history of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Approximate cost - 750 million dollars.
Equally important, the Moskva is the largest military ship that has been sunk in the world since 1982. Then, during the Falklands War, the Argentine cruiser General Belgrano was torpedoed by the British submarine HMS Conqueror.
Russia lost a cruiser for the first time since German planes sank the Chervona Ukraine cruiser in Sevastopol in 1941.

Na bila Meli za Uturuki kuwaokea wote wangeenda na maji. Ila Vita mbaya Sana,kifo cha maji kibaya Sana unakufa huku unajiona

 

[Axel Lloyd]

Historia fupi ya marehemu. Marehemu alizaliwa Mwaka 1983 na kufariki 13April2022,kilichomuua marehemu ni kiherehere chake cha kujifanya yeye ni supapawa wa mchongo.View attachment 2188929

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[President of China]

India Targets Russian Coal after Cheap Oil Deals


India’s imports of Russian coal have rocketed to the highest levels in two years, as New Delhi apparently plans to ignore Western warnings over sanctions against Russia's energy sector.


Negotiations on a local currency mechanism might help “bypass some of the financing challenges in the market”, according to trade consultant Samir N. Kapadia.


India is the world’s second-largest user and importer of coal (behind China), and is around 70% reliant on it for electricity.

 

[Neter]

Russia's Most Deadly Tu-160 Bomber That Can Destroy Entire Countries. Capable of ranging far across the globe and unleashing a dozen nuclear weapons from standoff range

Russian President Vladimir Putin inside the cabin of a Tu-160

 

[RTI]

Kwahiyo video ya meli kuonekana kwenye mitandao ndio meli inaweza kupigwa. Ungejaribu kuhusisha rules of engagement usingeandika hiki. Mara kibao meli zinakuwa illuminated na hakuna issue inatokea. Kurekodi picha mbona Marekani wanafanya kwa satellites zao wanaonesha hata gari lako lililopaki sembuse meli, tena hapo wanatumia civilian satellites hizo za military hatuna access nazo.

Meli ya Marekani iliyopigwa na Yemens ilikuwa flagship? Hata Israel iliwahi shambuliwa meli yao na Hezbollah na haikuzama. Tofauti inakuja kwamba wale hawakujulikana kama wana anti ship missiles ila Ukraine ni taifa sio the so called magaidi. Na hizi Neptune AShM zilipozinduliwa mwaka jana Warusi walifanya analysis wakasema hamna kitu. There must be preparedness maana capabilities za adui zinajulikana fika, sasa kama preparation ndio ilikuwa hivi basi kuna tatizo

Kwa hiyo ant ship za magaidi huwa hazionekani kwenye rada sio?

Mkuu utafananishaje drone na sataraiti kwani satalaiti na yenyewe ina tambuliwa na rada au ina dunguliwa?
Kitendo cha rada kushindwa kuona drone mpaka inakaa zaidi ya dakika 5 juu ya meli zako hizo rada ndio zitaweza kuona kombora linalo tembea kasi?

Mkuu kubali ukatae haya mameli yanatisha tu kwa kuyaangalia lakini uwezo wa kuyalinda huwa ni mdogo mno.

Hata Urusi tangu kumalizika kwa vita ya dunia haijawahi kupoteza meli vitani tofauti na kwenye hii vita na hii meli iliyo zamishwa imesha shiriki vita nyingi na ilikuwa inapewa sifa kama unavyo zipa sifa meli za kimarekani na haikuzamishwa imekuja kuzamiswa juzi, kwa maana hiyo ilikuwa haijakutana na nchi yenye makombora mazuri tu .
Kwa hiyo hata kwa Marekani ni bado tu haijakutana na nchi nyenye uwezo wa kuzishambulia hizo meli utashangaa.

Hata mifumo Ulinzi ya kiMarekani mlikuwaga mnaipamba hivi hivi lakini imekuja kujulikakana ya kwamba ni takataka kama takataka nyingine baada ya waasi wa kiuthi kuiumbua ya kwamba ni machujio.

 

[F9T]

📌 The latest on the Ukraine operation from the Russian Defence Ministry:

▪️ Russian military, DPR forces have liberated the "Mariupol Metallurgical Plant named after Illich" from Ukrainian nationalists;

▪️ The Russian Army destroyed the Zhulyansk machine-building plant using Kalibr missiles;

▪️ Russian Forces have killed up to 30 Polish mercenaries in Izyumskoe, Kharkov Region;

▪️ Russian air defences have shot down a Ukrainian Mi-8 helicopter using an S-400 anti-aircraft missile system;

▪️ High-precision air-based missiles destroyed a Tochka-U, up to 20 Ukrainian armoured vehicles, and as many as 50 nationalists near Yasenovoe, Ukraine

Hivi hawa jamaa wanapotoa updates za kila siku kuhusu vita hii kwa nini huwa wanatoa taarifa za kuwapiga maadui tu . mbona hawatoi taarifa kuwa katka mapigano ya Leo tumepoteza askari kadhaa na vifaa vyetu kadhaa?

 

[President of China]

Russian Railways from April 29 resume trains to Mongolia - between Irkutsk and Ulaanbaatar

 

[RTI]

Urusi tunaishangaa kwa vile inapigana kutokea nyumbani inavuka mpaka wa ardhini, bado inatokea Donbass ambako ina umiliki na bado inatokea Belarus na misafara ya silaha.

Marekani ilienda Vietnam kwa kuandaa logistics kali za gharama, kuvuka majini na kupiga air drops za masafa marefu kwenye terrain wasiyo familiar nayo, weather tofauti na mazingira tofauti ambayo hata silaha zilikuwa zinafeli nyingine. Na huu uzi hatuzungumzii Marekani nyuzi zipo ambazo tulishasema udhaifu wa Marekani ilipoenda Vietnam.
Afghanistan Marekani haijatoka kwa kupigwa, imetoka kwa kukaa miaka 20 na hakuna hatma ya operation yao kwahiyo wakaona hakuna economic benefit wanapata na hakuna security threat watakuwa nayo endapo Taliban itarudi madarakani. Ukisoma objectives zao zilikuwa ni nini, ni kubadilisha regime, kuweka mpya na kuipa training. Yote wamefanya kwa miaka 20, kama walitoka ikabadilika hilo ni jambo lingine ambalo halikuwa kwenye objectives zao.

Marekani haijawahi pigana na jirani tangu karne ya 19. Russia sasa ndio analazimika kupigana nao. Russia yuko anapigana na jirani ambaye siri za jeshi karibia zote anajua, silaha nyingi anajua walitengeneza wote, ramani anazo, kambi na strategies baadhi wanajuana. Makamanda wa Russia na wa Ukraine wote kabla ya 1991 walikuwa wanatumikia jeshi moja, wengine walienda vyuo vilevile na wengine Russians waliwahi kuwa stationed Ukraine, na Ukrainians waliwahi kuwa stationed Russia. Yet, superpower hajapata gain ya maana. Hatushangai sana kutoipiga Ukraine, tunashangaa zaidi mpaka leo hakuna kilomita za mraba kadhaa za kuonyesha kwamba wameteka. Yani hata Mariupol uliopo mpakani ambao Ukraine inasuasua kupeleka reserve na supplies, wanajeshi hawajawa relieved ila bado superpower hajauteka completely

Mkuu nimesha fafanua kinacho ifanya vita kuwa ngumu lakini unakwepa. Nimekwambia vita inakuwa ngumu kuimaliza kwa sababu Ukraine inapata silaha kutoka nchi za magharibi sidhani kama Ukraine ingeweza kuhimili vita kwa muda mlefu bila msaada.
Ili uweze kumshinda adui ni kuharibu silaha zake ili ashindwe kupigana asalimu amri au aikimbie akuachie mji, lakini sasa ni tofauti kidogo maana kila wanapo haribu silaha jioni zinaingia nyingine so ni razima vita iwe ngumu.

Nime kwambia uache kuishusha Urusi kwa ajili ya vita ya Ukraine kwa sababu vita haijaisha mshindi atajulikana baada ya vita kuisha ,na pili huko nyuma amepigana vita na kushinda kama angekuwa dhaifu kama unavyo taka kusema basi angeshindwa hata huko nyuma.

 

[RTI]

Hakuna Meli ya Marekani iliyowahi kupigwa Makombora na magaidi wa Yemen ikaharibiwa vibaya,kuna incident ilitokea hao magaidi walirusha Makombora yakaishia kudondoka majini kabla ya kuifikia Meli ya USN haikueleweka kama Marekani walijam hayo Makombora au la.

Hiyo habari hii hapa Yemen conflict: Missiles fired at US warship in Red Sea

Mkuu hiyo habari ni nyingine ni tofauti na ninayo izungumzia.

 

[Joannah]

Historia fupi ya marehemu. Marehemu alizaliwa Mwaka 1983 na kufariki 13April2022,kilichomuua marehemu ni kiherehere chake cha kujifanya yeye ni supapawa wa mchongo.View attachment 2188929

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