Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

[Mtoto wa nzi]

Vita sio sanaa, vita ni uharibifu na mauaji. Hakuna kingine cha zaidi ya hayo.

Sun Tsu(Tzu) ..unamjua !?? Unajua umuhimu wake katika strategy za kivita!!?? Unakifahamu kitabu chake Cha The Art of War kinavyotumika majeshini !!? ...

 

[Mtoto wa nzi]

Chukua hii video ya kukazia maelezo yako... Msikilize huyu mama anavojing'ata [emoji1787] Anadai eti Putin anawekea "trap" wao kuingia Ukraine, hivo hawataenda kwasabab itahatarisha usalama wa dunia [emoji847] View attachment 2188406

SI wampe maji huyo mama .....

 

[permanides]

Uwe unasoma na kuelewa,Mimi Sina meli wala ukoo wetu haumiliki meli!Nilichosema umeingia mkenge,Russia anasema hili na Ukraine anasema lile!Nimekwambia hata media kubwa kwenye kureport tukio Hilo Bado wameliacha wazi bila kuegemea stroy za upande wowote!Sasa who are you uconclude kuwa Ilikuwa striked na missiles?
Acha upunguani!

Ukijiongeza kidogo utapata majibu, jiulize kwa nini Russia amerudisha nyuma meli vita zake kwenye hilo eneo.

 

[Sigonella Island]

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[Mtoto wa nzi]

Mkuu na ww punguza mihemko Urusi ana umuhimu mkubwa kwenye maisha yako ya kila siku.
Na ushahidi tosha ni namna ya maisha yalivyo panda na kuwa magumu duniani kote baada ya Urusi kuingia vitani.

Ww hapo ulipo na nchi yako mnalindwa na silaha za kirusi maana asilimia 90 ya silaha zinazo kulinda wewe na taifa lako zinatoka nchini Urusi.
Ngano asilimia 56 inayo tumika nchi kwako inatoka ndani ya Urusi.
Mbolea inayo tumika ndani ya nchi yako kwa kiasi kikubwa inatoka Urusi.
Na mengine mengi kwa hiyo usiibeze.

Wanamtekenya anaye wabeba .....

 

[Jackal]

Wakati Urusi inaua raia Ukraine imeendelea kufanya yake:
⚡️ The marines are in action: in Donbas, the Ukrainian military seized 16 infantry fighting vehicles and 5 armored personnel carriers-82A. Also managed to take 6 prisoners.

Major
Ogoltsov Artyom
helicopter pilot
Syzran
born 1988
perished

 

[Jackal]

Putin analo....
❗️A new front could be opened very soon: the United States is ready to respond to Ukraine's request for anti-ship missiles and other coastal defense weapons.
The requested weapons could be added to the previously announced $800 million aid package, the New York Times reported.

 

[Mtoto wa nzi]

Ukute wala hana bali ilikuwa mikwala tu ili aogopwe. Yaani uwezo aliouonyesha Russia kwenye hii Operation ni wa kawaida sana, hata nchi kama South Africa angeonyesha uwezo kuliko hivi. Tactics za Russia hadi unawaza hivi hili ni lile Taifa tunalopewa Sifa zake au wengine. Imagine ile Convoy ndeeeeefu tena imesongana karibu sana yaani ni rahisi sana Kuteketezwa. Meli inazamishwa kirahisirahisi tu utadhani ni jeshi la Congo .POOR TACTICS, POOR INTELLIGENCE, POOR PLANNING & TOO LOCAL.

Binafsi nimeshaishitukia Russia. Ilikwezwa sana kumbe ni viwango vya Iraqi, Iran, Korea nk. Yaani hata tu Uingereza, France, German WANAMZIDI

Bravo Military Analyst wa Bunyokwa...

 

[babu na mjukuu]

Nafikiri kwa vile wengi wetu ni vijana na wengi wetu ndiyo tunashuhudia kwa kuona military operation ama vita vinakuwaje kwa nukta ya kuwa zao la manufaa ya mitandao ya kijamii inatusaidia kuona kile ambacho mara nyingi kilikuwa cha kufichwa.

Historia ama movie ama kwa kile ambacho tunakishuhudia upande mmoja unapofanya mashambulizi dhidi ya upande mwengine ama kile tunachoonyeshwa baada ya mashambulizi kimetuathiri na tumekuwa na matawi mengi ya fikra kwa kutoa mawazo yetu kwa kuona hapa ni alama A hapa ni F.

Tukubali vita ni sanaa kama sanaa nyengine. Kama sanaa inavyokuwa na ubunifu zaidi vita nazo zina mbinu. Sanaa ya maigizo ipo wazi sanaa ya vita kwa asilimia kubwa ni yenye kufichwa. Muda mwengine nyote mnaweza msielewe, muda mwengine wahusika wenyewe ndiyo wanajua wanachokifanya ni kipi!

Tunaweza tukawa tunajua mwisho wa hiki kinachoendelea baina ya Russia na Ukraine lakini isiwezekane kujua ni njia ipi itakayotumiwa. Pentagon imesema kinachoendelea Ukraine wenyewe hawajui Russia anatumia mbinu gani. Waliyobahatika kufafanua walielezea hivi unachokizungumzia: Russia ilionyesha msafara ule kuelekea makao makuu ya nchi ya Ukraine. Lakini ifahamike makao makuu ya nchi yanalindwa kwa gharama ya namna yoyote.

Kitendo kile sehemu kubwa ya jeshi la Ukraine likatumika kuulinda Kieve. Russia alichokifanya ni kuuzunguka ule mji. Matokeo yake miji mingine ilibakiwa na idadi kiasi cha wanajeshi. Ukumbuke pia lengo ni demilitarize na lengo jengine ni kuondoa Nazi. Demilitarize ikafanyika lakini kukabakiwa na vikundi vidogo vidogo vya jeshi la Ukraine ndivyo hivyo vilivyoleta upinzani wa hapa na pale. Kwa kuwa idadi kubwa ya jeshi la Ukraine lilizungukwa Kieve hawa wanajeshi wa mitaani kupata msaada wa moja kwa moja ikawa ni ngumu. Kuondoa Nazi inahitajika upite mtaa kwa mtaa kwani wahusika hawa walijifícha kwenye makazi ya raia. Hapa utarajie operation itachukua muda mrefu ikiwa utahitaji kupunguza vifo vya raia. Ikiwa haujali unalipua tu!

Ila hakuna mpaka sasa anayejua Russia anatumia mbinu gani! Itakujakufahamika zaidi mchezo utakapo kwisha. Russia siwageni kwenye haya mambo ya kivita. Tujijengee utamaduni wa kuona kwa pande mbili: Ikiwa kitu tukikiangalia kina sintofahamu basi ujue aidha kina makosa mengi au kina mambo ambayoufahamu wetu haujafikia kiwango cha kukielewa kwa wakati huo.

Maneno mazuri sana. Yanafaa kuandikwa kwa wino wa dhahabu

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[Jackal]

Mpaka siku ya Leo hasara ya vifaru/tanks kati ya Ukraine vs Russia 🤔
As of today, per oryxspioenkop, Russian-Ukraine 2022 war losses

Russia - 2899, of which: destroyed: 1548, damaged: 44, abandoned: 237, captured: 1070
Ukraine - 790, of which: destroyed: 365, damaged: 23, abandoned: 35, captured: 367

 

[babu na mjukuu]

Na kufa huo mfumo ushakufa hata tukisema Vita ikome leo. Haitakuwa kama awali.

Tukiweka mahaba kando.

All the financial aid zinazotolewa kwa wa-Ukraine kutoka west is in the form of loans. Kiev is never going to be able to pay those back. So post war the west will likely seek to asset strip Ukraine. Na tatizo kuu being most of the assets reside in the South and East of the country. Na ni kwenye hizi sehem ndipo Russia alipokaa.

Ukiangalia kwa umakini, unaona kama sio West tu wanaorefusha hii vita iwe ndefu bali na Russia wenyewe. Kwasabab uwezo wa kuharibu njia za kuingizia hizo Weapons ndani ya Ukraine wanao kwanini wanaendelea kuuacha wazi?

Utaona ni nchi za west zinazidi kuingizwa mkenge huku nao wakihisi wanazidi kumdhoofisha Russia. West wanaingizwa mkenge gharama za ku-sponsor vita kiasi unasikia uko nje kua kuna nchi zinadai kufikia ukomo wa kupelekka silaha zao Ukraine.

Wakati hali ndani ya Russia wakiendelea kujiimarisha taratib uko Europe na US hali inazidi kua mbaya kwa Raia wa kawaida...nakumbuka ka sikosei 2017 wakati wa Trump kuna taarifa niliisoma kutoka kwao ikisema kua more than 45Millions people wanaishi kwa Food Stamp. Hii ni takriban 14% of US Citizens.

US na Western allies naweza kusema wameover react kiassi cha kuonesha makucha yao. Kitendo cha ku-weaponize currencies zao kunaondoa Trust kutoka kwenye mataifa mengine yaliyohifadh pesa assets zao kuanza kuz'exchange kiasi ambacho itapelekea Hyper Inflation kwenye nchi hizo. Ukizangatia kila taarifa inayokua hivi sasa tunaambiwa Inflations zilizopo ni kubwa kuwah kutokea ndani ya miaka mingi nyuma.

Wakati wao wana'over react, uku Russia anajifanya mjinga, anapigwa sanctions na hayo hayo mataifa ila ha-fight back in rush mfano labda kwa kuzima Gas n.k, kwa wenye akili ndogo wataona ni udhaifu ila wenye macho mapana wanaona namna gan Russia anavojarib kuwin Trust kutoka kwa Rafiki zake, kua no matter how we can argue politically siwezi kufight back kuuharib uchumi wako makusudi.

Hii inamwonesha na kumpamba as reliable partner, that's why tunaeza ona rafiki zake wakubwa wameendelea kushikana nae, Irani nae aliyekuw akifatwa nyuma na US huyo hapo na Russia, Gulf regions hao vibaraka wa US nao wamegomea kushiriki kumlaani na kumwekea vikwazo Russia

Dah issue za kuongea ni nyingi sema mahaba yametamalaki kwenye huu uzi.. So twendeleeni na mapambio ya kubishana kila mtu na upande wake [emoji847][emoji847][emoji847]

Please...
Wapo wengi wanaopenda kuelimika. Kupata mapya wasiyoyajua. Kuongeza ufahamu wao. Achana na hao washabiki na wapenzi wa upinde wa mvua. Wasitunyime wengine faida.
Endelea kumwaga vitu

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[Nyamizi]

Kuna new level ya Vita kwa Sasa....Russians are calling for a conventional war...muda siyo mrefu Ukraine itakuwa historia...watch out...

[emoji3][emoji3]

 

[KIDUNUNDU]

Yani brother unawaza kidogo sana Russian hawezi ku sustain even for 10 years kupigana na ukrain
Na Putin must go

Je hii ni spirit ya Russian au Putin. Umejaribu kutafakari Levrov kawa madarakani kwa muda gani? Na Medved ambaye ni just 56. Unadhani Soviet ilivyodondoka walikubali.?. Ukraine wangekuwa smart wangekubali yaishe mapema wajipange shida ni hao wanazi waliona wapambane tu.

 

[1954]

Hivi hawa jamaa wanapotoa updates za kila siku kuhusu vita hii kwa nini huwa wanatoa taarifa za kuwapiga maadui tu . mbona hawatoi taarifa kuwa katka mapigano ya Leo tumepoteza askari kadhaa na vifaa vyetu kadhaa?

Sawa..ok..uko sahihi...😁😁 Kwai Ukraine, BBC, Aljazeera, Fox news, Skynews, Zelensky huwa wanatoa taarifa za maafa waliyopata wao Ukraine 😂😂🤣🤣na maafa waliyopata warusi

 

[Mtoto wa nzi]

Habari mpya za Mariupol. Zinasikitisha, mapigano yanaendelea.
Marafiki wa Putin walitangaza mara ngapi Mariupol imetekwa?

abcnews.go.com
Ukraine's port of Mariupol holds out against all odds
YURAS KARMANAU Associated Press
Unbroken by a Russian blockade and relentless bombardment, the key port of Mariupol is still holding out, a symbol of staunch Ukrainian resistance that has thwarted the Kremlin’s invasion plans

LVIV, Ukraine -- Unbroken by a Russian blockade and relentless bombardment, the key port of Mariupol is still holding out, a symbol of staunch Ukrainian resistance that has thwarted the Kremlin's invasion plans.
More than six weeks after the Russian siege began, Ukrainian troops are continuing to fight the vastly superior Russian forces in ferocious battles amid the ruins of what once was a bustling city on the Sea of Azov coast.
The city's mayor says that an estimated 120,000 people remain in the city, of Mariupol’s pre-war population of about 450,000.
The Ukrainians' fight against all odds has scuttled Moscow's designs, tying up significant Russian forces and delaying the start of a planned Russian offensive in eastern Ukraine's industrial heartland, Donbas. The Kremlin hopes that an attack in the east could reverse the battlefield fortunes for Russia after a humiliating failure of its attempt to quickly storm the Ukrainian capital, Kyiv.
Mariupol has been a key objective for Russia since the start of its invasion on Feb. 24. Capturing the city would allow Moscow to establish a land corridor to Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula that Russia annexed in 2014 and deprive Ukraine of a major port and prized industrial assets.
The giant Azovstal steel mill and other industrial plants have been heavily damaged by the ferocious Russian bombardment that has flattened much of Mariupol, indiscriminately hitting homes, hospitals and other public buildings and killing thousands.
The victims include about 300 people killed in last month's Russian airstrike on the Mariupol Drama Theater that was being used as a shelter and had the word “CHILDREN” printed in Russian in huge white letters on the pavement outside to ward off aerial attack.
Mariupol Mayor Vadym Boychenko told The Associated Press that at least 21,000 people were killed in Mariupol with bodies “carpeted through the streets.” He said that the Russians deployed mobile cremation equipment to Mariupol to methodically dispose of the victims' bodies in order to hide the evidence of the massacre and prevent international organizations from documenting "the horror the Russian army is responsible for.”
The discovery of hundreds of bodies of civilians apparently executed by Russian forces in Kyiv's suburbs after the Russian retreat from the area has fueled global outrage and accusations from Ukrainians and the West that Russia is committing war crimes in Ukraine.
Moscow has deployed fighters from Chechnya, known for their ferocity, to wage street battles in Mariupol. Chechnya’s Moscow-backed leader, Ramzan Kadyrov, has repeatedly boasted on his messaging app channel about defeating Ukrainians in Mariupol, but the fight has continued.
Boychenko said that several Ukrainian units are still fighting the Russians in Mariupol, including the 36th Marine Brigade, the Azov Regiment, some Interior Ministry troops and border guards.
The Azov Regiment, a seasoned volunteer force that is widely considered one of the country’s most capable units, is defending the mammoth Azovstal steel plant that covers an area of nearly 11 square kilometers (over 4.2 square miles). It has taken advantage of the plant's sprawling network of concrete buildings and underground facilities to repel continuous Russian attacks.
The 36th Marine Brigade was maintaining defensive positions at the Azovmash and Zavod Ilyicha factories until it ran out of supplies and ammunition and made a desperate attempt to break through the Russian blockade earlier this week.
In a post on the brigade's Facebook page, one of its officers described the unit's heroic resistance, saying that “for more than a month, the marines have been fighting without replenishing amunition, food and water supplies.” “The wounded accounted for nearly a half of the brigade's strength, but those who still had their limbs and were capable of walking reported back to duty," the post said.
Boychenko said that some of the marines managed to join the Azov regiment, while others were captured by the Russians. He didn't give any numbers.
The Russian military said Thursday that a total of 1,160 Ukrainian marines surrendered this week, a claim that couldn't be independently verified.
As the Ukrainian troops continue to offer fierce resistance in Mariupol, fears have grown that the exasperated Russians could resort to chemical weapons to deal with the remaining pockets of resistance at the Azovstal plant and other areas of the city.
Eduard Basurin, a Russia-allied separatist official in eastern Ukraine, appeared to call for that Monday, telling Russian state TV that the Russia-backed forces should block all the exits out of the factory and then "use chemical troops to smoke them out of there.” He later said that no chemical weapons were used.
The Azov Regiment claimed Monday, without providing evidence, that a drone had dropped a poisonous substance on its positions but inflicted no serious injuries. A Ukrainian defense official said the attack possibly involved phosphorus munitions.
Ukrainian authorities have said that the Russians have blocked humanitarian convoys from reaching Mariupol, keeping it without food, water and power since the siege started. The Russian troops have turned back buses sent to evacuate residents, but about 150,000 have been able to flee the city in their own vehicles.
Boychenko said that at least 33,500, and, possibly, up to 50,000 Mariupol residents have been taken to “filtration camps” in the separatist-controlled east before being forcibly sent to distant, economically depressed areas in Russia.
Mariupol has seen communications cut since the start of the siege, and as the Russians moved to capture sections of the city they launched radio broadcasts to brainwash the population.
“They unleashed propaganda, telling people that Kyiv and other cities have been captured and they have been abandoned,” Boychenko said.
The continuing fighting in Mariupol has forced the Russian military to keep a significant number of troops in the city, delaying the start of the planned new offensive in eastern Ukraine.
“As long as the street fighting is going on, Russia can't remove troops from Mariupol and deploy them to other areas, including Donbas,” Oleh Zhdanov, an independent military expert, told the AP.
“The Ukrainian troops in Mariupol are still fulfilling their main task by diverting the Russian forces from other areas. Mariupol remains a major symbol of the Ukrainian resistance."
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Mwenzako Yoda ndio alikuwa hataki haya ya kucopy na kupaste bila kutoa maoni yako .... Alikataa anachofanya NYUNDO YA MOTO .... LAKINI ukiisoma hiyo habari yako hauoni kama "imebaki eneo la bandari tu" maana kiwandani wameshambombiwa ..kama wamebaki na eneo la bandari hayo maeneo mengine yameshikiliwa na wanyaturu eti !!??

 

[F9T]

Nyie huwa mnatoa data? wazee wa kupika data. Shenzi kabisa

Mkuu , kwanini unatoa matusi ? Kitu usichopenda kufanyiwa kwa nini wewe unapenda kumfanyia mwingine ?

 

[Keyboard_Warrior]

Mpaka siku ya Leo hasara ya vifaru/tanks kati ya Ukraine vs Russia 🤔
As of today, per oryxspioenkop, Russian-Ukraine 2022 war losses

Russia - 2899, of which: destroyed: 1548, damaged: 44, abandoned: 237, captured: 1070
Ukraine - 790, of which: destroyed: 365, damaged: 23, abandoned: 35, captured: 367View attachment 2189114

Samahani mkongwe, kama hautojali. Unaweza kuweka hapa na hasara alizozipata Ukraine mpaka sasa kutokana na hii operesheni ya Mrusi?

 

[Axel Lloyd]

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Haikupigwa na Makombora Mkuu,ilikua ni suicide attack ya magaidi waliivizia wakati iko port inajaza mafuta

At 12:15 p.m. local time, a motorized rubber dinghy loaded with explosives blows a 40-by-40-foot hole in the port side of the USS Cole, a U.S. Navy destroyer that was refueling at Aden, Yemen. Seventeen sailors were killed and 38 wounded in the attack, which was carried out by two suicide terrorists alleged to be members of Saudi exile Osama bin Laden’s al Qaeda terrorist network.

The Cole had come to Aden at the southern tip of the Arabian peninsula to refuel on its way to join U.S. warships that were enforcing the trade sanctions against Iraq. It was scheduled to remain in the port for just four hours, indicating that the terrorists had precise information about the destroyer’s unannounced visit to the Aden fueling station. The terrorists’ small boat joined a group of harbor ships aiding the Cole moor while it was refueling, and they succeeded in reaching the U.S. warship unchallenged. Their dinghy then exploded in a massive blast that ripped through the Cole’s port side, badly damaging the engine room and adjoining mess and living quarters. Witnesses on the Cole said both terrorists stood up in the moment before the blast.

USS Cole attacked by terrorists

 

[Omary - Msamalia]

The SAS, Britain's famed special forces corps, has been training Ukrainian soldiers on the ground in the Kyiv region, Ukrainian military sources have told The Times of London.

Officers from two battalions told the newspaper on Friday that SAS troops led training sessions last week and the week before.

Hawa Instructors wachache wa Britain wameweza kuyafanya Maelfu ya Askari wa Russia wageuze Njia, what about the UK Army...

Russia can fight NATO this is hard truth to Pro Putin, pia hata vita ya Donbass itakuwa ngumu kwa Russia pengine kuliko Kiev, unajua ni Vita iliyokuwepo Tangu 2014, Ukraine wameweka Defenses nyingi sana, hata ukiangalia hii vita Tangu ianze Russia alishindwa kabisa kuyateka haya maeneo na Hadi Sasa Ukraine amekomboa Maeneo kwenye huu mkoa

 

[KIDUNUNDU]

The SAS, Britain's famed special forces corps, has been training Ukrainian soldiers on the ground in the Kyiv region, Ukrainian military sources have told The Times of London.

Officers from two battalions told the newspaper on Friday that SAS troops led training sessions last week and the week before.

Hawa Instructors wachache wa Britain wameweza kuyafanya Maelfu ya Askari wa Russia wageuze Njia, what about the UK Army...

Russia can fight NATO this is hard truth to Pro Putin, pia hata vita ya Donbass itakuwa ngumu kwa Russia pengine kuliko Kiev, unajua ni Vita iliyokuwepo Tangu 2014, Ukraine wameweka Defenses nyingi sana, hata ukiangalia hii vita Tangu ianze Russia alishindwa kabisa kuyateka haya maeneo na Hadi Sasa Ukraine amekomboa Maeneo kwenye huu mkoa

Kifupi SAS , Navy Seal na Muisrael wapo Ground. Na hii vita inapigwa kutoka Pentagon Telaviv na UK. Russia anachokipata hakutegemea. Chen chen wana casualties sasa. Inakoelekea Ukraine itabaki Magofu tu na madeni kibao why russia kajitoa mhanga