Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Umeamua kukubaliana na Russia waliosema meli imezama kwa dhoruba, sasa unabishana na mimi nini. Wewe meli yenu imeungua moto na kuzama kwa dhoruba. Mimi nasema meli ya Russia imepigwa na makombora ya Ukraine, wakafanya evacuation, ikawa tugged, ikazama. Hakuna haja ya kubishana vitu waziwazi
 
Ile ilianzishwa na majasusi kutoka west, kataa?

Maidan square ilianzishwa ili kuiondoa serikari iliyopo madarakani ambayo ilikuwa na mrengo wa Mashariki iliyokuwa ikiongozwa na victor yanukovch.

Unafikiri walioingia madarakani ni kina nani?
Manationalist na watu walio kwenye vikundi vya Azov.

Chaguzi zilizofanyika baada ya hapo ni lazima watu wao washinde.

Kumbuka mzozo huu ndio ulizaa watu wa mashariki mwa Ukraine kutaka kujitenga.

Hawakuwa wananchi kama unavyosema wewe? Acha propaganda

 
Hii Meli warusi imewauma Sana inaonekana hawakutegemea Kama ingezamishwa. Na hii itakua fundisho kwao maana kuanzia sasa wataanza kuogopa pwani ya Ukraine.
 
Wachambuzi wa nato hebu tuelezeeni.

Hio meli ilipigwa saa ngapi? na ilipigwa na kombora ngapi?

Kombora lipi lilitumika na linafanya vipi kazi? gharama? uwezo wake n.k

Je meli ilipigwa sehemu gani? chini, juu.....

Ilichukua muda gani kuzama baada ya shambulio?

Je hilo kombora lilitokea sehemu ipi? baharini, ardhini au angani?

Hakuna hayo maelezo hizo ni ngonjera, hata F35 huwa zinaanguka zenyewe tu pasipo kuguswa...
 



The fact is that the height of the Tu-22M3 is so high that all kinds of stingers and other NATO gifts simply cannot get them
 
Hakuna Meli ya Marekani iliyowahi kupigwa Makombora na magaidi wa Yemen ikaharibiwa vibaya,kuna incident ilitokea hao magaidi walirusha Makombora yakaishia kudondoka majini kabla ya kuifikia Meli ya USN haikueleweka kama Marekani walijam hayo Makombora au la.

Hiyo habari hii hapa Yemen conflict: Missiles fired at US warship in Red Sea
 
📌 The latest on the Ukraine operation from the Russian Defence Ministry:

▪️ Russian military, DPR forces have liberated the "Mariupol Metallurgical Plant named after Illich" from Ukrainian nationalists;

▪️ The Russian Army destroyed the Zhulyansk machine-building plant using Kalibr missiles;

▪️ Russian Forces have killed up to 30 Polish mercenaries in Izyumskoe, Kharkov Region;

▪️ Russian air defences have shot down a Ukrainian Mi-8 helicopter using an S-400 anti-aircraft missile system;

▪️ High-precision air-based missiles destroyed a Tochka-U, up to 20 Ukrainian armoured vehicles, and as many as 50 nationalists near Yasenovoe, Ukraine
 
Na bila Meli za Uturuki kuwaokea wote wangeenda na maji. Ila Vita mbaya Sana,kifo cha maji kibaya Sana unakufa huku unajiona
 
India Targets Russian Coal after Cheap Oil Deals


India’s imports of Russian coal have rocketed to the highest levels in two years, as New Delhi apparently plans to ignore Western warnings over sanctions against Russia's energy sector.


Negotiations on a local currency mechanism might help “bypass some of the financing challenges in the market”, according to trade consultant Samir N. Kapadia.


India is the world’s second-largest user and importer of coal (behind China), and is around 70% reliant on it for electricity.
 
Kwa hiyo ant ship za magaidi huwa hazionekani kwenye rada sio?

Mkuu utafananishaje drone na sataraiti kwani satalaiti na yenyewe ina tambuliwa na rada au ina dunguliwa?
Kitendo cha rada kushindwa kuona drone mpaka inakaa zaidi ya dakika 5 juu ya meli zako hizo rada ndio zitaweza kuona kombora linalo tembea kasi?

Mkuu kubali ukatae haya mameli yanatisha tu kwa kuyaangalia lakini uwezo wa kuyalinda huwa ni mdogo mno.

Hata Urusi tangu kumalizika kwa vita ya dunia haijawahi kupoteza meli vitani tofauti na kwenye hii vita na hii meli iliyo zamishwa imesha shiriki vita nyingi na ilikuwa inapewa sifa kama unavyo zipa sifa meli za kimarekani na haikuzamishwa imekuja kuzamiswa juzi, kwa maana hiyo ilikuwa haijakutana na nchi yenye makombora mazuri tu .
Kwa hiyo hata kwa Marekani ni bado tu haijakutana na nchi nyenye uwezo wa kuzishambulia hizo meli utashangaa.

Hata mifumo Ulinzi ya kiMarekani mlikuwaga mnaipamba hivi hivi lakini imekuja kujulikakana ya kwamba ni takataka kama takataka nyingine baada ya waasi wa kiuthi kuiumbua ya kwamba ni machujio.
 
Hivi hawa jamaa wanapotoa updates za kila siku kuhusu vita hii kwa nini huwa wanatoa taarifa za kuwapiga maadui tu . mbona hawatoi taarifa kuwa katka mapigano ya Leo tumepoteza askari kadhaa na vifaa vyetu kadhaa?
 
Mkuu nimesha fafanua kinacho ifanya vita kuwa ngumu lakini unakwepa. Nimekwambia vita inakuwa ngumu kuimaliza kwa sababu Ukraine inapata silaha kutoka nchi za magharibi sidhani kama Ukraine ingeweza kuhimili vita kwa muda mlefu bila msaada.
Ili uweze kumshinda adui ni kuharibu silaha zake ili ashindwe kupigana asalimu amri au aikimbie akuachie mji, lakini sasa ni tofauti kidogo maana kila wanapo haribu silaha jioni zinaingia nyingine so ni razima vita iwe ngumu.

Nime kwambia uache kuishusha Urusi kwa ajili ya vita ya Ukraine kwa sababu vita haijaisha mshindi atajulikana baada ya vita kuisha ,na pili huko nyuma amepigana vita na kushinda kama angekuwa dhaifu kama unavyo taka kusema basi angeshindwa hata huko nyuma.
 
Mkuu hiyo habari ni nyingine ni tofauti na ninayo izungumzia.
 
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