Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Viongozi wa mataifa zaidi ya 30 waliungana kumuangusha kiongozi wa taifa moja badala yake wao ndo wanaanguka mmoja baada ya mwingine.
Subiri msimu wa baridi ufike, ndo watajua Urusi siyo Lesotho [emoji1147].

Lithuania [emoji1151] baada ya kuona putin Amepiga Saini ya kuruhusu vikosi vya special force vya Russia kutembeza kichapo hata nje ya urusi akaona isiwe tabu, akaondoa vikwazo haraka sana kabla high trained Russian troops kuingia mzigoni, maana wote wanajua kabisa putin na Urusi yake wakishaaga anza jambo mpaka liishe, hawanaga kurudi nyuma.

Niliwahi kusema kipindi cha nyuma kuwa, Vikosi vya Urusi vinavyo endesha operation huko Ukraine nivile vya askari wa kawaida na service men (Ukiondoa makamanda wake ambao ndo maPro)
Sasa jana kama siyo Juzi Rais Putin katia saini ya Kuruhusu high trained millitary Russian troops kufanya operation zake hata nje ya Urusi.

Note: Hawa wajeda aliowasainia Putin siyo level ya Kupigana na jeshi la Ukraine, Hawa wapo kwajili ya NATO na kwavile Lithuania ni mNATO ndo maana putin akawaruhusu hao wajomba kukiwasha hata nje ya Urusi maana kwasasa bado wapo Moscow wanakula upepo wakisubiri NATO watikise makalio kazi ianze. huku vijana wao chipukizi jeshini wakiendelea kuangusha mji mmoja baada ya mwingine huko Ukraine chini ya makamanda wachache wabobezi. Hata NATO hilo wanalijua kabisa kuwa Jeshi la Urusi lililopo Ukraine ni asilimia ndogo sana ya jeshi la Urus, ndo maana wakamuonya mwenzao Lithuania [emoji1151] Aache kiburi na aondoe vikwazo haraka sana kabla ya kikosi cha wanaume wa kazi kutoka Kremlin hakija chafua hali ya hewa kwenye anga la NATO kuelekea msimu huu wa baridi.

Opponents: One Man against 30+ Men
Results : [emoji635]30 Vs 1 [emoji1099]& [emoji631] [emoji636] [emoji1063]
Kuna wakati ukisoma uchambuzi uliopangiliwa namna hii unahis unawaona Kabisa special troops wa Russia walivona molarity ya kuipa NATo kipondo Cha uhakika
 
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Wakajiuliza karibu nishati ya dunia nzima tunaimiliki sisi kwa nini hii itushinde???Nishati ya Mashariki ya kati,Afrika,Amerika kwa asilimia kubwa tunaimiliki na kuitawala sisi huyu ni nani mpaka atubabaishe na kutupora sauti na nguvu yetu kwenye nishati??Zikafanyika tafiti na tafiti kuhusu nishati huko huko Ulaya.
Mjomba unafaham kama Venezuela na Iran, hizi nchi 2 tu kwa pamoja wana miliki world share ya zaidi ya 27% ya Oil reserves duniani? Ukilinganisha vs Russia mwenye reserves ya share ya below 5% au United state mwenye 2.1%?

Vile vile upande wa Natural Gas, Top three countries. Russia 24% Share, Iran again 17.3% na Qatar 12.5%. Ondoa Qatar baki na hizo mbili Russia na Iran nchi mbili ambazo hazina influences ya west pa1 ni over 41%

Sasa unaposema almost zote una maana ipi? Point yako hapo imejikita wapi? Uzalishaji au reserves? Na kama ni uzalishaji vipi kuhusu vinavyotakiwa kuzalishwa? Yes am asking kuhusu reserves?

Tafiti zikaonyesha kuwa upande wa Mashariki wa Ukraine kuna hazina kubwa sana ya rasilimali za asili ambazo kwa asilimia kubwa zinahusiana na nishati!!Wamagharibi wakafurahi sana !! Tukiibeba Ukraine yote basi Urusi atapoteza sauti na nguvu (soko) kwenye nishati kwao Wamagharibi na dunia nzima kwa ujumla.!!!
Kwenye hizo tafiti uliangalia kiasi kilichogunduliwa? Let me help you with some data. Kiasi kilichopo kilichopo Ukraine Upande wa natural gas ni 39 millions MMcf, ambazo ni 0.6% ya world share. Na upande wa Oil reserves ni 395 millions barrels ambazo pia ni kama 0.024%

In comparison, Russia ana Natural gas reserve mara 40 zaidi ya zile zilizopo Ukraine, Russia ana Oil reserves mara 195 zaidi ya zile zilizogunduliwa hapo Ukraine.

Kwa hizo data vipi unahisi hayo madai unayo yaita ukweli ni sahihi? Kama tu kiasi kwamba kile kilichogunduliwa hakikidhi mahitaji ya Ukraine yenyewe vipi for that case unafikiri wanaweza kukidhi mahitaji ya nchi zingine?

Vikundi vya kirusi vikaonekana kuzidiwa na Ukraine ikafanikiwa kuyarudisha majimbo yaliyogunduliwa hizo rasilimali!!!!
Unaweza kutusaidia majina ya hayo majimbo yaliyo rudishwa na Ukraine yenye hizo rasilimali mjomba?

Tulitumia vikundi vikafeli sasa ni lazima jeshi liingie!!!Sababu ipi zipi zitakuwa na mashiko???
  1. Tunajilinda dhidi ya Nato.
  2. Tunalinda maisha ya jamii za Kirusi zilizo hatarini huko Ukraine.
  3. Kuna Wanazi huko Ukraine.
  4. Kuna maabara ya silaha za kikemikali huko Ukraine.
So hapa unajaribu kutuambia kwamba hayo madai yote si ya ukweli bali ni visingizio vya Urusi tu kwenda kuiba Ukraine mali zao?

Kwamba hakuna Nazi, Hakuna wa Ukraine waliokua wanauwawa hapo Donbass, wala hakuna maabara za US hapo Ukraine. Kwamba vyote ni visingizio. Na kitendo cha Pentagon kukiri uwepo wa hizo Labs nao waliteleza, ni Uongo wa Urusi kutaka kuiteka mali ya Ukraine au sio?

Unafikiri kwanini Russia asiende kuibeba Qatar, Saudia Arabia au Iran UAE au kwa Venezuela mbali kutoka kwake. Nchi zote hizo aziweke mikononi ziwe chini yake abaki kujisumbua na Ukraine ambae resorces zilizopo hapo upande wa nishati zote zinasoma figure chini ya 1% ya world share?

Unaweza kuona na kuhisi vita ni siasa au dini ndiyo inasababisha lakini ukweli ni rasilimali asili kwa kiasi kikubwa sana ndiyo msingi mkuu na siasa au dini ndiyo hutumika kama kichocheo.
Kwenye hii kauli yako hapa nusu nakubali na nusu nakupinga, Vita vina sababishwa na siasa pia nakubaliana na wewe kua vita havisababishwi na dini n.k

Unapozungumzia siasa, haziishii kwenye kampeni kushinda uchaguzi. Unapozungumzia siasa unazungumzia power, na ili uwe na power lazima uwe na nyenzo za hizo power.

Hizo nyenzo za power kubwa kabisa ni Pesa na nyingine ni rasilimali. Kwenye uchumi hizi Raw materials ni Primary sector. Hupati Secondary sectors bila kua na Primary sectors. Nina maana ya kua hupati uzalishaji kama hauna malighafi/rasilimali.

Lakini world power system imebase kwenye pesa pekee as a nyenzo of power kuliko rasilimali. Angalia nchi kama Iran, ina resources nyingi mara dufu kuliko bara lolote ulaya. Je Iran ina nguvu kuliko Germany? Kuliko Italy? Kuliko Spain au France au UK?

Mwenye pesa anahitaji rasilimali na mwenye rasilimali anahitaji pesa. Rasilimali ngumu kupatikana but pesa printer zipo na wino wa kutosha. Prrrrr ni mlio mwepesi kusikika kwenye masikio zinapohitajika.

Russia rasilimali anazo lakini anaendelea kuziuza kwa mataifa yanayo mpa vikwazo kwasababu anahitaji pesa. Why pesa? Coz hizo pesa ndio nyenzo kuu ya power katika mfumo mzima wa dunia tulio nayo hivi leo.

Hapa Tz si tuna gesi? Bila pesa tunawezs kuitoa ardhini? Na tukiitoa ardhini kutafuta nini?

Any way kuhusu huo upande wa mashariki mwa Ukraine ndipo kumejaa vile vinavyomtambulisha Ukraine duniani. Issue nzima ya chakula kama ngano shairi n.k ambazo west wamekua wakipiga kelele kila siku kua wanazihitaji. Wala sio issue ya nishati.

Ni mtazamo wangu binafsi!!!!
Yah ni mtazamo wako binafs, upendezeshe uulishe nyama usogelee karibu uhalisia.

Mitazamo ipo mingi kuhusu kile kinacho endelea Ukraine. Hapa a hata mmoja bali nimejikita katika katika "faults" za mtizamo huo ulio nao.

Kesho mwanao amekuwa wa 7 darasani, muulize kwanza kapata wastan upi ulinganishe na top wao uone kama anastahili pongezi au achapwe aongeze juhudi. Kwani anaweza kua kapata wastani wa 10 out of 100 ila kawa wa 7 ihali wa kwanza ana wastani wa 94.

Mimi ni mmoja katika watu tunao amini sana katika number, Huh Numbers never lies na zilizo DATA ndio msingi wa ukweli na silaha ya kutokomeza uongo.
 
Mimi ninachofahamu kuhusu ukweli wa hii vita (operesheni ya kijeshi ) ni uchumi. Karibu vita vyote duniani vimehusika kwa namna moja au nyingine kuhusiana na uchumi.Siku zote shughuli za kiuchumi hufanyika katika ardhini kwa sehemu kubwa.

Shughuli nyingi za kiuchumi hutumia nishati kwa sehemu kubwa sana kama siyo zote
.Kwa maana hiyo msingi mkuu wa shughuli za kiuchumi ni nishati ambayo kwa sehemu kubwa inapatikana kwenye ardhi.

Vita kubwa kwa sehemu kubwa zimehusiana na umilikaji na utawaliwaji wa nishati.Ukimiliki na kuitawala nishati utakuwa na sauti na nguvu kubwa kwenye uchumi ambayo itakupa vilevile nguvu ya kisiasa.

Russia (Urusi) ni nchi iliyojaaliwa na kubarikiwa kwa kumiliki na kutawala rasilimali za asili zenye kuhusisha nishati.Hali hii imeifanya kuwa na sauti na nguvu kwenye bara la ulaya kama siyo duniani kwa ujumla.Wewe mwenyewe utakuwa shahidi kwa kinachoendelea sasa hivi duniani kuhusu nishati.

Hali hii iliwakera na kuwauma watu wa Magharibi wakiongozwa na kiranja mkuu Marekani.Wamagharibi kwa miaka mingi walitamani huu utajiri wa rasilimali waumiliki na kuutawala wao peke yao.Mikakati ilipangwa na kupangwa lakini ikashindikana!!!

Wakajiuliza karibu nishati ya dunia nzima tunaimiliki sisi kwa nini hii itushinde???Nishati ya Mashariki ya kati,Afrika,Amerika kwa asilimia kubwa tunaimiliki na kuitawala sisi huyu ni nani mpaka atubabaishe na kutupora sauti na nguvu yetu kwenye nishati??Zikafanyika tafiti na tafiti kuhusu nishati huko huko Ulaya.

Tafiti zikaonyesha kuwa upande wa Mashariki wa Ukraine kuna hazina kubwa sana ya rasilimali za asili ambazo kwa asilimia kubwa zinahusiana na nishati!!Wamagharibi wakafurahi sana !! Tukiibeba Ukraine yote basi Urusi atapoteza sauti na nguvu (soko) kwenye nishati kwao Wamagharibi na dunia nzima kwa ujumla.!!!

Warusi wakapata taarifa (ujasusi) kuwa nguvu yao kuhusu nishati inaenda kupotea kutokana na ugunduzi huu!!! Wakati wanatafakari kibaraka wao waliomuweka hapo Ukraine akaondolewa kwa maandamano ya wanaotaka demokrasia!!

Baada ya Wamagharibi kupeleka kete ya kwanza, warusi nao wakapeleka kete yao ambayo ni kulibeba jimbo mojawapo ndani ya Ukraine.!!!Wamagharibi wakajua kuwa ngoma imeanza na inabidi waicheze!!Tunaichezaje?? Piga vikwazo na tulitengeneze na kuliboresha jeshi la Ukraine liwe la kisasa halafu tujiandae na kinachofuata!!!

Warusi wakaunda vikundi vya kijeshi kisha wakapeleka kete nyingine ambayo ni kuyabeba majimbo yote yanayohusiana na huu ugunduzi wa rasilimali!!! Hahah!!! Zikaanza kupigwa baina ya vikundi vya Kirusi dhidi ya vikundi vya Kimagharibi.Vikundi vya kirusi vikaonekana kuzidiwa na Ukraine ikafanikiwa kuyarudisha majimbo yaliyogunduliwa hizo rasilimali!!!!

Warusi wakajiuliza na kutafakari itakuaje kuhusu hatima yao mara baada ya haya majimbo kuchukuliwa!!! Wakaja na jibu moja 'kuwa tutakuwa hatuna tena nguvu na sauti'.!!!! Nini kifanyike?? Tulitumia vikundi vikafeli sasa ni lazima jeshi liingie!!!Sababu ipi zipi zitakuwa na mashiko???
  1. Tunajilinda dhidi ya Nato.
  2. Tunalinda maisha ya jamii za Kirusi zilizo hatarini huko Ukraine.
  3. Kuna Wanazi huko Ukraine.
  4. Kuna maabara ya silaha za kikemikali huko Ukraine.
Wakati huhuo vyombo vya kijasusi vya Kimagharibi vikapata harufu ya nini kinachofuata!!!

Ikatangazwa operesheni(vita??) ya kuipunguza nguvu za kijeshi ukraine pamoja na kuwaondoa Wanazi (Demilitarization and Denazification)!!!!!Hahaha!!!!

Swali: Nani ataibuka mshindi kati ya anayetetea sauti na nguvu ya nishati (Urusi) na wanaotaka kuipora hiyo sauti na nguvu(Wamagharibi)??? Muda utaamua!!!!

Nb: Unaweza kuona na kuhisi vita ni siasa au dini ndiyo inasababisha lakini ukweli ni rasilimali asili kwa kiasi kikubwa sana ndiyo msingi mkuu na siasa au dini ndiyo hutumika kama kichocheo.

Ni mtazamo wangu binafsi!!!!
Na mimi Msomaji wa Bandiko hili Nahitimisha Kwa Kusema
MUNGU IBARIKI URUSI
 
Wanajeshi 1000 wa Russia waekwenda na maji cheki video hapo chuni Pro Russia mkuje huku

 
Kama Vita toka ianze figure ipo Sawa, mrusi anaangamiza silaha nyingi za west na Ukraine zilizo kwenye maghala au zilizofichwa kwenye makazi ya raia, kama inafika kipindi mpaka marekani mwenyewe analalamika kuwa anapeleka silaha nyingi lakini haoni zinapokwenda maana yake silaha nyingi zinaharibiwa kabla hazijafikia eneo ambalo zinatakiwa zikatumike

The fact that a learned individual like him doesn’t understand this simple, blatant truth explains clearly and unequivocally how much the US and her propaganda machines have succeeded in deluding almost all their blind subjects.
 
Silaha tunazo wapa Ukraine mnaziweka kwenye kundi lipi? Je idadi yake mnayo? Je mnajua kama silaha tunazompa Zelensky zikiwafikia zinahesabika ni zao? That means zikiharibiwa ni Casualties ya Ukraine and not us. Are you aware of that?

If yes, So what's your point there?

To me figure walizotoa Urusi, I can say hazipo sawa since ni chache. That's si nyingi as the way we expected. Something I noted from our enemy(Russia) is that, Russia don't prefer to give full data of Ukraine casualties. They keep saying less, all because I think they do want to maintain an image of "Military operation" to the world.

Few of us, I admit on this, we knows exactly the situation in Ukraine is Hell in Earth. Our armies are massively destroyed but enemy side keep posting loss of our military equipment surprising they usually don't post much about death of our soldiers like the way we do.

We had between 600k to 800k infantry, Experts said we loose more than 70% of our army yet Russia keeping figure low as much as possible to 45k. Je ni kweli 70% of 600k to 800k is 45k?

To people who reasoning well, its hard to find fault on Russian's data unless you are driven with either too much huba or too much chuki.

I conclude by saying that, data of our enemy (Russia) zipo below reality.
Hivi anajua silaha za $40 ni silaha ngapi wanapata?????, Halafu akumbuke Ukraine inaviwanda vya silaha anajua kuna ngapi zimezalishwa kipindi hiki cha vita????
 
Hivi anajua silaha za $40 ni silaha ngapi wanapata?????, Halafu akumbuke Ukraine inaviwanda vya silaha anajua kuna ngapi zimezalishwa kipindi hiki cha vita????
Tumetuma zaidi ya hizo mkuu, kumbuka hizo ni za United States peke yake. Also kuna fund tunazopeleka bila official statement to the public, there hundreds od companies too, don't forget kuna silaha tunawapa Ukraine behind doors because what we desperately want is a defeat for Russian side. All of these when reaching Ukraine are officially weapons of Ukraine not us any more. So casualties concerning those weapons are to be counted as Ukrainian's casualties.

Previously, I said, the figure Russian Side gives to the public is too low, its below our expectations. Probably as I said, I think the Invaders want to keep the image of "Millitary Operation" to the world while few of us we know exactly the situation in the field is hell.

Since February we have been constantly pouring weapons to Ukraine, the Ukraine is running out of armor and ammunition to defend itself. Where do those weapons goes? It's Russian destructions and few of them managed to inter black markets.

So all in all what I can say, figure provided by Russia are too low compared to the real situation in the field.
 
Tushabikie sana... lkn nukes Haina mbabe na mahasimu wote wanazo... Ikitokea imefikia huko hapa wote hatutakua na wakati wa TEAM A wala B.... Utakua n wakat wako na nafsi yako... Maombi yangu wachapane ivo ivo mbabe atapatikana tu wala wasiwe na haraka
Nuke wapigane ulaya Mimi Huku nitaathirika na nini, Wacha wazitwange wawe wakimbizi
 
Tumetuma zaidi ya hizo mkuu, kumbuka hizo ni za United States peke yake. Also kuna fund tunazopeleka bila official statement to the public, there hundreds od companies too, don't forget kuna silaha tunawapa Ukraine behind doors because what we desperately want is a defeat for Russian side. All of these when reaching Ukraine are officially weapons of Ukraine not us any more. So casualties concerning those weapons are to be counted as Ukrainian's casualties.

Previously, I said, the figure Russian Side gives to the public is too low, its below our expectations. Probably as I said, I think the Invaders want to keep the image of "Millitary Operation" to the world while few of us we know exactly the situation in the field is hell.

Since February we have been constantly pouring weapons to Ukraine, the Ukraine is running out of armor and ammunition to defend itself. Where do those weapons goes? It's Russian destructions and few of them managed to inter black markets.

So all in all what I can say, figure provided by Russia are too low compared to the real situation in the field.
Argument yako ya "too low" naikubali, na hilo lipo wazi. Nchi zinazopeleka silaha wala hazipigani wanadai stock zao zina hali mbaya kwasababu ya Ukraine. Na nchi ambazo ni kubwa kiuchumi, na wana budget kubwa tu kila mwaka.

US kama mfano, ni B53 zimemtoka ndani ya siku hizi 140, ukiangalia silaha zipi kwenye hiyo fedha lazima uthubutu kusema kua figure za Urusi wanazotoa ziko chini mno. Na huenda kama unavyodhania, kwamba kutunza ile image ya Special Military Operation kwa dunia.

Ila kusema hizo figure ni kubwa duh 😏

Nikikumbuka ile picha ya Helmet ya yule mwamba aliyeandika kwenye Helmet kua wapo like in Hell. Unapata majibu ya hali mbaya ilivyo.
 
Argument yako ya "too low" naikubali, na hilo lipo wazi. Nchi zinazopeleka silaha wala hazipigani wanadai stock zao zina hali mbaya kwasababu ya Ukraine. Na nchi ambazo ni kubwa kiuchumi, na wana budget kubwa tu kila mwaka.

US kama mfano, ni B53 zimemtoka ndani ya siku hizi 140, ukiangalia silaha zipi kwenye hiyo fedha lazima uthubutu kusema kua figure za Urusi wanazotoa ziko chini mno. Na huenda kama unavyodhania, kwamba kutunza ile image ya Special Military Operation kwa dunia.

Ila kusema hizo figure ni kubwa duh [emoji57]

Nikikumbuka ile picha ya Helmet ya yule mwamba aliyeandika kwenye Helmet kua wapo like in Hell. Unapata majibu ya hali mbaya ilivyo.
Urusi anamstir mpinzan wake
 
Unamfahamu America??.
Yaani amwache tu Russia anayemtibulia kule Syria awndelee kutamba?
Labda ujifanye hujui vita baridi na ni mtoto wa 2000.s
Unamfahamu Alexander the Great mzee Roman empire?

Alikuwa anatisha lakini wajuba wenzie wakamtoa.

Ikiwapi sasa ile Roma iliyokuwa na nguvu kubwa sana?

Kwahiyo hata huyo USA 🇺🇸 nguvu itamuishia tu.

Au Mkuu umesahau dunia inaenda zake?
 
Urusi anamstir mpinzan wake
Sure! Nahisi ana sababu zake za kufanya hivyo. Ukiachilia mbali ile hoja ya Grand Master kuhusu image Russia anayo ihifadhi hapo Ukraine. Mie naweza kujikita zaidi kuangalia mahusiano ya raia wa kawaida wa Urusi na Ukraine.

Hao ni ndugu, Ugonvi baina ya ndugu hupiganwa na wastaarab wakiwa macho yao wameya elekeza katika maisha baada ya ugonvi. Russia anafanya kila analo weza kushow humanity kwa raia wa kawaida wa Ukraine.

Tumeona wanawapa maradhi, wanawapa vyakula, wanakomboa kwenye mikono ya jeshi la Ukraine wakichukuliwa mateka n.k, Yote kuonesha kua Russia sio adui yao bali ndugu yao na rafiki yao mkubwa zaidi ya vile wanavyo tangaziwa.

Ukitembelea Official page za Russia hukuti mapicha ya ajab ajabu kuonesha wapiganaji wa Ukraine walivyokufa au kusulubiwa. Na ni kweli kama alivyosema huyo jamaa hapo juu. Russia kajikita kutoa taarifa za vifaa tu sio jeshi la wapiganaji hao.
 
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