Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Bugucha said:
lnaonekana ww3 inaangukia

#BREAKING ⚡️🇷🇺 THERE WILL BE NO WORLD CUP THIS YEAR
SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN IN THE COMING WEEKS.

—SECRETARY OF THE RUSSIAN SECURITY COUNCIL
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Lakini hili Putin alisema toka mwanzo wa operation kuwa kitendo cha kuifungia timu ya taifa urusi basi hakutakuwa na kombe la dunia
 
Kumekucha Urusi, Vijana na wanaume wamkimbia Putin.....baada ya order kuwataka waende vitani

Drone footage shows long queues of vehicles on the way out of Russia on its border with Georgia
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⚡⚡⚡Russia has the right to use nuclear weapons if necessary, Russian Security Council Vice President Dmitry Medvedev said.
«In established cases. In strict accordance with the Fundamentals of state policy in the field of nuclear deterrence. If we or our allies are attacked using this type of weapon. Or if aggression with the use of conventional weapons threatens the very existence of our state, "Medvedev said⚡⚡⚡
 
Pietro said:
Lini USA alimwambia Ukraine kwamba watairudisha Ukraine?!

Hizo nchi jirani na Russia haziwezi kuona Sawa ufedhuli anaufanya Urusi sababu wanajua na wao kitawapata kilichompata Ukraine Kwa kisingizio kilekile kwamba Urusi anaenda kulinda raia wanaoiunga mkono Urusi kwenye ardhi ya hizo nchi. Resources sio kigezo cha kufanya eti nchi ikijisogeze Kwa Russia,Russia ni Taifa kubwa lakini kwasasa halina ushawishi hata Kwa jirani zake kuizidi China ambayo haina resources kuizidi Urusi mfano mzuri ni Kazakhstan hivi sasa inajitoa kwenye kivuli cha Urusi na kuegemea Kwa Marekani & Europe na China. Wanajenga bomba jipya la mafuta ambalo litakwepa kupita kwenye ardhi ya Urusi na Rais wao alimwambia Putin live kwamba hawatatambua Donbass wala Luhansk matokeo wanasiasa wa Urusi wakaanza kusema Kazakhstan sio Taifa linatakiwa liungwe Kwa Urusi Yani sababu zilezile zilizotumika kuivamia Ukraine ndo wakaanza kuzisema sema dhidi ya Kazakhstan kisa tu haifuati matakwa ya Moscow. Russia ni Taifa kubwa lenye resources nyingi lakini wananchi wake hawali matunda ya hizo resources Ila Putin na Cycle yake ya maoligarchs,sasa hivi baada ya Mali zao kushikwa Putin anawaua kila kukicha sababu anajua siku watamgeuka.

Shekhe unazungumzia Ulaya ipi?! Juzi UK imesema itaongeza bajeti ya kusaidia silaha Ukraine kufikia $2.3 bilioni, Ursula kiongozi wa European Union alisema Kuna ela zimetengwa na zitaongezwa ili kununua silaha Kwa ajili ya Ukraine. Putin alidhani akiwablack mail Kwa kukata gas watampigia magoti matokeo yake imekua tofauti,Ulaya wanatafuta alternative za Gas ya Urusi,Qatar na Ujerumani wapo mbioni kukamilisha mkataba mkubwa wa kuuziana LNG. Alternative energy sources km Hydrogen zimeanza kuangalia Kwa jicho la tatu, Ujerumani imefungua tena coal plants,kuna vinu vya nyuklia ilitakiwa vistaafishwe wameamua kuviongezea muda ili kuziba gap lilioachwa na gas ambayo Putin amekata. Putin hakupiga hesabu vizuri kuingia kwenye vita ya kijinga kama hii maana kwenye kila kitu amepata matokeo tofauti,alikua anataka kudhibiti upanuzi wa Nato- matokeo yake NATO itapanuka zaidi Finland na Sweden soon watakua wanachama. Alitaka kuua cooperation Kati ya USA na Europe kupitia Nord stream 2 matokeo yake imefungwa,Putin mwenyewe juzijuzi hapa anakuja na demand eti Ulaya wakitaka gas bhas wafungue Nord Stream 2
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Ungekua karibu ningekupa grant kubwa bwashee umeongea madini tupu
 
triga said:
Lini utajifunza kujenga hoja zenye akili!?

Facts
1. Russian assets/fedha zilizokuwa seized west haziwezi kutumika kirahisi kama unavyofikiria. Nimekupa chapisho la kitaaluma kuhusu hili jambo wewe unaniletea taarifa/habari uchwara za nani kasema nini. Maneno ya borell ni ya kisiasa tu na kwenye hiyo unayoiita 'article' wala hakuna analysis ya alichokisema wao wamemquote tu basi.

"EU's Borrell Says Russian Reserves Should Be Seized, Used To Rebuild Ukraine"

A merely suggestion from a politician. Lol [emoji38]

About Blinken's statement unayajua majibu aliyopewa baada ya kusema wamewauliza wanasheria wao kama wanaweza kutumia mali za serikali ya urusi. Tatizo hata 'article' ulizozileta hapa mwenyewe hukuzisoma.

2. Hizo frozen assets (hata wakiweza kuzitumia) haziwezi kutosha hata kuijenga Ukraine kurudi ilivyokuwa zamani. According to Kiev shool of economics itahitajika zaidi ya 600b usd wakati frozen assets za urusi kwenye nchi za magharibi hazizidi 400b usd. Na haiwezekani kutumika zote.

3. Hakuna kiwango cha assets kinachoweza kulipia donbas, kherson na zaporozhie. Unazungumzia eneo kubwa la nchi lenye utajiri wa viwanda na rasilimali. That is priceless [emoji108]
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mpe darasa uyo team upinde
 
Medvedev spoke about the use of nuclear weapons by the Russian Federation:

Russia has the right to do this - if the threat exceeds the established danger limit, Moscow will have to respond without asking anyone for permission, without long consultations.

But the West is unlikely to apply it:

Overseas and European demagogues are not going to die in a nuclear apocalypse, and therefore they will swallow the use of any weapon in the current conflict.

But in Kyiv they will not understand this:

This is unrealistic - they are in a constant war frenzy with short pauses for bizarre drug dreams.
 
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⚡️In Russia, they can create a new federal district - Crimean, it will include the peninsula itself, and the LPR, DPR, as well as the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions attached as a result of referendums. The former general director of Roskosmos, Dmitry Rogozin, may head the new embassy, Vedomosti reports. @kedmi
 
Mathanzua said:
Tunaaminije kwamba hao ni Warusi na sio story za kupikwa?Please confirm kwamba hao kweli ni Warusi wanaokimbia nchi yao,vinginevyo this is fake news.
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Hiyo ipo cnn na aljazeera jiongeze ufahamu meng Russia kwisha habar yake
Mathanzua said:
Naomba utambue yafuatayo.
1.Hakuna uhasama wowote kati ya Kenya na Tanzania.
2.Tanzania haitumiwi na any entities kuidhuru Kenya,Ukraine is.
3.Tanzania haidhuru wananchi wowote ambao ni ethnic Kenyans.On the other hand Ukraine ina-uwa Warusi waishio Ukraine.
4.Ukraine ina maabara za siri za kibayolojia za Marekani ambazo zinazalisha silaha za kibayolojia za kuidhuru Russia.Tanzania haizalishi silaha za kibayolojia za kuidhuru Kenya.
5.Nchi za Magharibi zinaitumia Ukraine kama proxy ya kuisambaratisha Urusi.On the other hand Tanzania haitumiwi na nchi za Magharibi kuisambaratisha Kenya.

So your comment and comparison is null and void,haina mashiko kabisa.Urusi Ina sababu zote za kuisambaratisha Ukraine kwa kuwa it is a threat to the Russia Nation,while Tanzania is not in any way a threat to the Kenyan Nation.Nenda kajifunze,hujui what the Ukraine-Russian conflict is all about,usipotoshe watu.
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Siyo wanaitumia Ukraine kama base ya kuisambaratisha Russia bali tayar walishaanza kuisambaratisha Russia we endelea na past tense. RUSSIA IMESHAANZA KUFUTWA
 
political monger senior said:
mpe darasa uyo team upinde
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Muache aendelee kuota Ukraine kujengwa na mali za Urusi [emoji1787][emoji16]

Sijaona mtu ana hona zaifu km huyo jamaa. Alaf ni mbishi. Hata kama kitu hajui anakomaza shingo heri ipasuke.

Tunajitahidi kuonesha udhaifu na uongo, uzushi uliojaa kwenye 'hoja' zake mambo ya kufikirika ambayo anatamani yawe kweli. Ubishi wake sisi tunamuachia. Abishane mpk asubuhi. hoja ya asset za urusi tushaifunga. Tusubirie tangazo la matokeo ya kura 27th Sept...
 
triga said:
Muache aendelee kuota Ukraine kujengwa na mali za Urusi [emoji1787][emoji16]

Sijaona mtu ana hona zaifu km huyo jamaa. Alaf ni mbishi. Hata kama kitu hajui anakomaza shingo heri ipasuke.

Tunajitahidi kuonesha udhaifu na uongo, uzushi uliojaa kwenye 'hoja' zake mambo ya kufikirika ambayo anatamani yawe kweli. Ubishi wake sisi tunamuachia. Abishane mpk asubuhi. hoja ya asset za urusi tushaifunga. Tusubirie tangazo la matokeo ya kura 27th Sept...
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[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]wewe uliyesema Burundi na Zimbabwe wanaitambua Crimea kama sehemu ya Urusi ni wa kuniambia Mimi nina hoja dhaifu kweli[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Ulivyoombwa source ukaleta tu jina la source bila ya kutoa link tukasome kilichoandikwa humo ndani[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]. Daaah

Halafu eti unambishia mpaka Blinken,sasa sijui Kati yako ww keyboard warrior na Blinken Nani ana akili[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
 
Nkuba25 said:
Huo mfano wako ulipaswa kuwa wa namna hii:

Chukulia mfano, hapo kwenye mpaka wa TZ na Kenya, huku upande wa Tanzania, Tanzania ikaamua kufuga magaidi ya Al Shabaab na magaidi wengine wengi tu wanaotokea Somalia.

Halafu hao magaidi wakawa wanatishia mustakabari wa Kenya.

Sasa, ndio uje kuuliza, Kenya wakianzisha Vita, tutakuwa upande gani.
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Alooo hii si sawaa kuna mahali switch zimezimwa, sijui nianzie wapi kukujibu.... Anyway umenifurahisha
 
mtarimbo said:
Hiyo ipo cnn na aljazeera jiongeze ufahamu meng Russia kwisha habar yake

Siyo wanaitumia Ukraine kama base ya kuisambaratisha Russia bali tayar walishaanza kuisambaratisha Russia we endelea na past tense. RUSSIA IMESHAANZA KUFUTWA
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CNN na Aljazeera to me is fake News,huaga siangalii!Angalieni ninyi wadanganyika.

Halafu eti Russia inasambaratika, ndivyo mnavyodanganywa na fake news outlets zenu ee.Wenzenu wanajitwalia majimbo,halafu mnasema inasambaratika,kama sio uzuzu huo ni nini.The West ndiyo inayo-sambaratika as sanctions backfire!Sawa,endeleeni kudanganywa na Fake Mainstream Media of the likes of CNN,CBS,Fox,Aljazeera,Sky etc.

Hebu cheki a Former Retired CIA Director akikiri udanganyifu huo.Sasa wewe ni nani hata uamini kwamba Mainstream News sio fake News?Acheni umbumbumbu.
 

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Pietro said:
[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]wewe uliyesema Burundi na Zimbabwe wanaitambua Crimea kama sehemu ya Urusi ni wa kuniambia Mimi nina hoja dhaifu kweli[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Ulivyoombwa source ukaleta tu jina la source bila ya kutoa link tukasome kilichoandikwa humo ndani[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]. Daaah

Halafu eti unambishia mpaka Blinken,sasa sijui Kati yako ww keyboard warrior na Blinken Nani ana akili[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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Usijichekeshe ili uonekane mcheshi.

Hiyo suala ya burundi na zimbabwe mbn nilishaimaliza!? Kama wewe unabisha endelea kubisha mpk kesho hakuna atayehangaika na wewe.

Uliomba source ukapewa (jina la) source hukuridhika, kumbe wewe ulikuwa unataka link[emoji16] sasa si ungesema 'leta link ya chanzo chako'. Ulichokiomba ndicho ulichopewa!

Cha ajabu sasa wewe uliyekuwa unalibishia hilo swala hata chanzo cha mchongo hukukitoa. Ni maneno matupu tu alaf kwa kuomba upewe source hujambo. Nilipoona unacounter chapisho the economist kwa taarifa inayomquote borell kisha unaiita article nikashtuka. 'Article' how!? Yaani mimi kwenye website yangu nikatoa taarifa kuwa mbunge fulani kasema hivi na vile tayari hiyo inakuwa ni article!? Duh!
 
Mathanzua said:
CNN na Aljazeera to me is fake News,huaga siangalii!Angalieni ninyi wadanganyika.

Halafu eti Russia inasambaratika, ndivyo mnavyodanganywa na fake news outlets zenu ee.The West inasambaratika as sanctions backfire!Sawa,endeleeni kudanganywa na fake Mainstream Media of the likes of CNN,CBS,Fox,Aljazeera,Sky etc.

Hebu cheki a Former Retired CIA Director akikiri udanganyifu huo.Sasa wewe ni nani hata uamini kwamba Mainstream News sio fake News?Acheni umbumbumbu.
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Kwa hiyo unategemea niamini hii habar yako kama wewe huamini ya kwangu ,bwashee unachekesha
 
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