Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

[triga]

Ushahidi upi zaidi ya media tunazoziquote? Au ww untk ushahidi wa kutoka wapi zaidi ya media??? Au ww mwenzetu huwa unatuwekea ushahidi gani zaidi ya kuquote media au website mbalimbali?

Wewe umequote media gani!? Hebu onesha hapa kwenye hiyo taarifa ya mejenerali wa urusi kufa vitani ulivyoileta hapa uliileta kama quote kutoka media gani!?

Sioni nukuu ya media yeyote kwenye post zako za nyuma kuhusu hilo. Tafadhali nioneshe kama ipo. Nachokumbuka Baada ya kukuuliza ushahidi ukasema kama sikubali sawa na kama nakubali sawa. Au sio wewe uliosema hivyo!?

Lengo la mtu kuomba chanzo cha taarifa ni kutaka kujua ukweli, nothing more. Haina maana anabisha. Ungenipa source ningetulia wala usingeniona tena nalirudia jambo hilo hilo. Mambo mengi kuhusu vita hii mimi nayapatia hapa kutoka kwa wachangiaji. Mtu akileta taarifa nikiwa interested nayo nahitaji kufuatilia nijue asili yake so lzm niombe chanzo chake.

Nikiona hakuna chanzo cha maana basi naiterm hiyo habari kuwa uongo na propaganda. Kama habari uliyoileta wewe hapo

 

[D A E M U S H I N]

Alexander dvornikov amemaliza shughuli yake

 

[D A E M U S H I N]

Anaingia sergei surovikin, mwanadamu pekee aliyezaliwa bila ya nywele.

Alizaliwa akiwa ameshabatizwa kwa iskander missile, sasa amepewa jukumu la kuwasukumia wahuni kombora la poseidon na satan

 

[1954]

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Kama unaandika thesis au dissertation halafu sources zako zikawa ni Wikipedia hakuna supervisor anayeweza kuipitisha kazi yako

 

[HIMARS]

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Yatosha sasa,

 

[Sigonella Island]

Punguza kimbelembele cha kudandia mijadala usiyoilelewa pimbi wewe , ulitaka ni weke matacle yako ?

Acha kujaza utopolo wako lete habari kamili

 

[Narumu yetu]

Alexander dvornikov amemaliza shughuli yake
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Huyu kamanda ana dhambi sana syria wanamjua ,yeye anauwaga mende kwa eskalenda ,putin hana ham naye

 

[Narumu yetu]

Anaingia sergei surovikin, mwanadamu pekee aliyezaliwa bila ya nywele.

Alizaliwa akiwa ameshabatizwa kwa iskander missile, sasa amepewa jukumu la kuwasukumia wahuni kombora la poseidon na satan
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Huyu mchumba sana bora aliyemtangulia,huyu mweupe sana

 

[Omary - Msamalia]

Kama unaandika thesis au dissertation halafu sources zako zikawa ni Wikipedia hakuna supervisor anayeweza kuipitisha kazi yako

Hakuna source kwenye internet iliyosahihi kuliko wikipedia.

Kama si mtumiaji wa Wikipedia basi nikwambie chini ya kila page kuna chanzo cha hiyo habari, kuanzia source kinzani au zinazounga mkono, tena taarifa kutoka pande zote za taarifa

 

[Final Boss]

Huyo mjomba ndo bingwa wa kuzingira na kufunga njia zote za kimkakati za adui kuingia na kutoka eneo la mapambano. Lazima adui aombe usuruhishi maana hamna supply ya siraha, chakula wala madawa huyu jamaa akikuweka mtu kati. FSA na ISIS wanamjua vizuri.

😂
Kuna TG Channel ya Ukraine nimeshangaa nao wanashusha CV yake taratibu.

Wamepost hiki 👇
What you need to know about the identity of the new commander of the Russian group.

Graduated with honors from all military schools. Has a scientific degree.

Specializes in interagency cooperation, which is very important, because. it is the complete lack of coordination that is the main reason for the tactical failures of the Russian Federation. We wrote about it often.

As a captain, he went to break through the barricades in Moscow in 1991, as a result of which three protesters were killed. He served 7 months in a pre-trial detention center, but was personally acquitted by Yeltsin, and as a person who carried out the order, despite the fact that he went against Yeltsin, he received the rank of major.

He was convicted of arms trafficking, but acquitted.

A very tough leader. In 2004, his deputy shot himself in Surovikin's office because of criticism.

The first "land" commander of the VKS.

For the longest time he commanded a group of troops in Syria.

He led a successful operation in the Gorsky-Zolotoye area."

Alexander dvornikov amemaliza shughuli yake
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Huyu mzee amekaa "kilokole'" mno.

Anaingia sergei surovikin, mwanadamu pekee aliyezaliwa bila ya nywele.

Alizaliwa akiwa ameshabatizwa kwa iskander missile, sasa amepewa jukumu la kuwasukumia wahuni kombora la poseidon na satan
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😂😂😂

 

[Detective J]

Anaingia sergei surovikin, mwanadamu pekee aliyezaliwa bila ya nywele.

Alizaliwa akiwa ameshabatizwa kwa iskander missile, sasa amepewa jukumu la kuwasukumia wahuni kombora la poseidon na satan
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Sifa kama zote, akivurunda lawama

 

[Sigonella Island]

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"Let them count on Putin."

The US Treasury called the decision of OPEC+ to reduce oil production "useless and unreasonable".

And Democrats Tom Malinowski, Sean Kasten and Susan Wild, members of the House of Representatives, proposed withdrawing American troops from the UAE and Saudi Arabia, along with missile defense systems that ensure the safety of oil fields.

They believe that Middle Eastern countries have chosen Russia's side in the conflict, so the United States should stop helping them.

Subscribe to @Sputnik

 

[nankumene]

Zilijadiliwa hapa na watu waliumbuka sana nashangaa mmelileta tena. Baada ya mejenerali waliotangazwa kuuawa kuanza kuonekana wakiwa hai na wengine kujulikana walikufa muda kbl ya operesheni kuanzishwa na hata hawakufia vitani

Habari za kwamba urusi mpk sasa imepoteza wanapiganaji elf 60, unazikubali!? Tatizo sio source, tatizo ni credibility ya source.

Bottom line nilishasema na narudia kusema tena. Ushindi wa vita sio idadi ya majenerali waliobakia hai au waliokufa ni kutimia malengo ya vita husika. Ukraine mpk sasa hv amepoteza mia elf ya km za mraba kwenye nchi yake. Kama hii inafidiwa na mnaodai majenerali wa urusi waliofia vitani basi ya'll are more naive than i thought [emoji189]

yeah ndio maana sikutaka kuendelea na mjadala coz nilijua utaendea huko, ndio maana nkakwambia we amini unavyoamini sababu swala la credibility ya source ni mtazamo wa mtu, kuna wengine kwao CNN kwao ni credible RT takataka wakati wengine ni vice versa, ndio maana sikutk kwenda kwenye hoja ya sources, au basi mention hapa hizo credible sources bni zipi ili tukileta habari tuwe tunaziquote?.........

 

[nankumene]

Wewe umequote media gani!? Hebu onesha hapa kwenye hiyo taarifa ya mejenerali wa urusi kufa vitani ulivyoileta hapa uliileta kama quote kutoka media gani!?

Sioni nukuu ya media yeyote kwenye post zako za nyuma kuhusu hilo. Tafadhali nioneshe kama ipo. Nachokumbuka Baada ya kukuuliza ushahidi ukasema kama sikubali sawa na kama nakubali sawa. Au sio wewe uliosema hivyo!?

Lengo la mtu kuomba chanzo cha taarifa ni kutaka kujua ukweli, nothing more. Haina maana anabisha. Ungenipa source ningetulia wala usingeniona tena nalirudia jambo hilo hilo. Mambo mengi kuhusu vita hii mimi nayapatia hapa kutoka kwa wachangiaji. Mtu akileta taarifa nikiwa interested nayo nahitaji kufuatilia nijue asili yake so lzm niombe chanzo chake.

Nikiona hakuna chanzo cha maana basi naiterm hiyo habari kuwa uongo na propaganda. Kama habari uliyoileta wewe hapo

hata km ni ngequote still ungeleta issue ya credibility na mi sifahamu kwako wewe credible sources ni zipi,

 

[Final Boss]

Note kwa wachangiaji wote...!

Ndugu zangu kabla hamjafikia hatua ya kutukanana, mkumbuke kua kuna "Ignore' option mnaweza kuitumia kama aliye mbele yako taarifa zake zinakukera au hazja-fit matamanio yako.

Kutukana hasa matusi kwa wazazi wenu ambao hawajui hata mnabishania nini ni upumbavu wa hali ya juu. Kutukana hakuongezi busara wala maarifa.

You gah two options, either tujibu kistaarabu au kuacha kabisa inapobidi. We aren't forced, we aren't obliged by any kureply kwa kila anayequote vile venye umepost.

Hata kama tupo nyuma ya keyboard, Heshima ni kitu cha bure!

Ushauri wangu wa jana naurudia na leo, If you are too emotional achana na hizi mambo za Siasa. Politics is war, of course hata vita ni siasa pia. The less you know the easy for you to be manipulated.

So either tutulie au tuangalie mambo mengine ya kufanya ila si kutukanana matusi yanayohusu wazazi wetu.

Inakera!

 

[triga]

yeah ndio maana sikutaka kuendelea na mjadala coz nilijua utaendea huko, ndio maana nkakwambia we amini unavyoamini sababu swala la credibility ya source ni mtazamo wa mtu, kuna wengine kwao CNN kwao ni credible RT takataka wakati wengine ni vice versa, ndio maana sikutk kwenda kwenye hoja ya sources, au basi mention hapa hizo credible sources bni zipi ili tukileta habari tuwe tunaziquote?.........

Wewe unaniambia mimi niamini na mimi sitaki kuamini nataka kujua!

Umeleta habari ukaombwa chanzo kama unacho kiweke basi. Either ningekataa au kukubali chanzo ulichokiweka sio tatizo lako tena provided umefanya km nilivyokuomba. Unapokataa kutoa chanzo inafanya mtu ahitimishe pengine unaongopa na huna chanzo simply umejitungia tu.

Anyway hili tuliache mkuu

 

[nankumene]

Zilijadiliwa hapa na watu waliumbuka sana nashangaa mmelileta tena. Baada ya mejenerali waliotangazwa kuuawa kuanza kuonekana wakiwa hai na wengine kujulikana walikufa muda kbl ya operesheni kuanzishwa na hata hawakufia vitani

Habari za kwamba urusi mpk sasa imepoteza wanapiganaji elf 60, unazikubali!? Tatizo sio source, tatizo ni credibility ya source.

Bottom line nilishasema na narudia kusema tena. Ushindi wa vita sio idadi ya majenerali waliobakia hai au waliokufa ni kutimia malengo ya vita husika. Ukraine mpk sasa hv amepoteza mia elf ya km za mraba kwenye nchi yake. Kama hii inafidiwa na mnaodai majenerali wa urusi waliofia vitani basi ya'll are more naive than i thought [emoji189]

mimi kukubali au kutokubali haifanyi habari kuwa ya uongo au ya kweli coz huo utakuwa ni mtazamo wangu tu, nawewe kutokubali kuwa majenerali wa urusi wamekufa vitani hakufanyi taarifa hzio kuwa ni za uongo huo ni mtazamo wako kulingana na utashi wako wa namna unavyofuatilia mambo, huwezi kusema kila taarifa usioiamini kuwa ni uongo kisa tu sources unazoziamin hazisemi hvyo au labda kwakuwa haimamke sense kwako hizo akili za wapi?

 

[nankumene]

Note kwa wachangiaji wote...!

Ndugu zangu kabla hamjafikia hatua ya kutukanana, mkumbuke kua kuna "Ignore' option mnaweza kuitumia kama aliye mbele yako taarifa zake zinakukera au hazja-fit matamanio yako.

Kutukana hasa matusi kwa wazazi wenu ambao hawajui hata mnabishania nini ni upumbavu wa hali ya juu. Kutukana hakuongezi busara wala maarifa.

You gah two options, either tujibu kistaarabu au kuacha kabisa inapobidi. We aren't forced, we aren't obliged by any kureply kwa kila anayequote vile venye umepost.

Hata kama tupo nyuma ya keyboard, Heshima ni kitu cha bure!

Ushauri wangu wa jana naurudia na leo, If you are too emotional achana na hizi mambo za Siasa. Politics is war, of course hata vita ni siasa pia. The less you know the easy for you to be manipulated.

So either tutulie au tuangalie mambo mengine ya kufanya ila si kutukanana matusi yanayohusu wazazi wetu.

Inakera!

kuna watu walishauri hivyo ila wenyew wakawa wakwanza kuwaita wenzao mashoga

 

[Senior Bachelor ll]

mji wa kupyansk ambao urusi ilijiondoa umesharudiwa na urusi muda huu urus imebakiza umbali wa km 6 tu kuingia tena jiji la limany

upande wa kherson jesh la ukraine limeshindwa kusonga mbele kwa leo hii inaonesha urusi imeanza kujiimalisha vizur huko

Kwann sasa ?

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[Senior Bachelor ll]

Nimecheka sana, kwa hiyo Russia walipeleka mavifaa, wakatumia rasilimali fedha, watu, wakarisk maisha ya watu wao, uchumi wao, wakaua wenyeji wa huko Kharkiv, Kherson Lyman, ili waje waweke mtego wa kukimbia na kutelekeza vitu vya mabilioni ya dola miezi 8 mbeleni?

Sasa what is point ya kuivamia Ukraine sasa, yaani kama hivi ndio reasoning za Pro-Russia na Putin, aisee

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Inashangaza kwa kweli

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