Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Sasa wewe na huyu rais wa UKRAINE tumuamini nani MKUU

Ikiwa RAIS wa UKRAINE anasema hivi unatka nimuamini nani kati yake nawewe!!!??

Basi itakua UFO ndio wamepiga POLAND maana UKRAINE umemsikia Elensky hapo na RUSSIA wamekanusha

Basi itakua limetokra kusikojulikana

[emoji1255][emoji1782] I have no doubt that the rocket that caused the explosion in Poland was not Ukrainian - Zelensky

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Mkuu huoni mazungumzo hayo ni kitoto kabisa?
A) Kila mtu anayetaka kujua anajua ilikuwa S300;
B) uwezekano ni mkubwa ilikuwa S300 ya Ukraine - kwa sababu S300 za Kirusi haziwezi kufika umbali huu kutoka pale ambako Warusi walirusha roketi - ni tabia ya S300. (ambayo kimsingi ni roketi ya kutetea anga lakini Warusi wameanza kuzitumia kutoka ndege kwa kulenga ardhini kwa sababu hawana vifaa vya kutosha kama Kalibr n.k. - ila haziendi umbali huu)
C) kila mtu anayejua mambo kidogo anajua kwamba vitani kila upande unajitahidi kupiga propaganda iwezekanavyo
D) kila mtu anajua kwamba tukio hili linaonekana kama ajali na sasa hakuna mwenye nia ya kuingia katika vita NATO-Urusi (pande zote mbili - labda isipokuwa Zelenski mwenye upande wake);
Tushukuru kwamba upande wa Urusi kuna akili ya kutosha kwamba hawakujaribu uchokozi mpumbavu na hatari - na upande wa NATO kuna akili ya kutosha ya kutotafuta sababu ya kupiga Urusi.
 
Umeongea kwa Mihemko na kwa 'hearsay' bila facts na proof.

What i said ndo reality Zele angelijua hili asingeingia vitani. Alitegemwa NATO wangeaet foot kupigana ardhini kwake.

Anachofanya Russia ni kumuwahi asijiunge na kuhakikisha hatohiunga at any cost
ww huwa ni kichaa siku za nyuma mliita SMO sasa hv mmeanza kukiri kuwa ni vita , Na kibaya bado hamtak kukumbuka kuwa Feb 2022 Urusi ndio aliivamia Ukraine na sio Ukraine kuivamia Urusi , kwahiyi Ukraine alilazimishwa kupigana hata kama hakuwa tyr
 
Mbona umekuwa Mtabiri..

Kutafuta ukubwa na ushawishi ndo tabia za hizi nchi kubwa.

Ukiwa tishio kwa nchi zao wanakuahughulikia.

Si US si EU na wala Si Russia almost wote wako hivyo.

Nachomaanisha Ukraine kaingia chaka akiamini hao wakubwa watapigana kwa ajili yake. Hiyo mikopo anayopewa atalipaje na atalipa lini???
pumbav moja lisilo na akili , tumia hizo nguv kukemea ukosef wa maji , unaandika utumbo sana
 
Wewe unaharibu mada ya jamaa...hatutaki mipasho humu...tunataka tuone wachangiaji huru wenye data na maoni kwa ajili ya kujifunza
ww pia kilaza , Jamaa kaandika hoja zake ww unaita mipasho kisa kaizungumzia Urusi in negative way
 
Na silaha anazopewa nyingi zinaishia kuharibiwa na high precision russia's missiles....
Anatamani ku-quit lakini ameshavuka mstari wa no return sababu kala sana hela za NATO na hajadeliver matokeo.
na Urusi hajapigww popote bali anaachia maeneo kwa utashi wake tu [emoji23][emoji23]
 
Nje ya mada mbona..

Pro Russia nani?

Labda uniite Pro Superpowers. Sababu sipiganishi US, NatoEu wala Russia sababu nawajua ndo mighty powers duniani.

Mada haiongelei hilo lako mzee
akil yako haijakomaa bado., utoto mwing
 
Hii ingekuwa sahihi bila mashaka iwapo Urusi angeishambulia Ukraine bila kuchukua ardhi kwa sababu ya kutaka kujiunga NATO.

Kitendo cha kuchukua ardhi kinaleta mashaka kuwa Urusi ilikuwa na sababu ya uvamizi tofauti na ilizozisema.

Binafsi naona Ukraine hakupaswa kumuhofia Russia, alipaswa kuihofia USA na washirika wake. Russia ilipaswa kuwa rafiki na kumlinda kutokana na ukaribu wao kiasili.
Urusi kaanza tangu 2013 , Urusi amekuwa anaingilia siasa za majiran zake na kupandikiza viongoz kama Rwanda anachofanya DRC kwann jiran wa hivyo usiwe na hofu nae ?
 
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Kuchukua Ardhi ni kutengeneza mgogoro wa muda mrefu na kuzuga kuhusu malengo hasa ya uvamizi.

In the end ni kugeuza dishi kutoka suala la kujoin Nato. Lets see sababu wengi wetu huku Chamazi tunabunibuni tu
pointless sijui hata operator umeokota wapa , empy brain
 
na Urusi hajapigww popote bali anaachia maeneo kwa utashi wake tu [emoji23][emoji23]
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Umeongea kwa Mihemko na kwa 'hearsay' bila facts na proof.

What i said ndo reality Zele angelijua hili asingeingia vitani. Alitegemwa NATO wangeaet foot kupigana ardhini kwake.

Anachofanya Russia ni kumuwahi asijiunge na kuhakikisha hatohiunga at any cost
unazungumza Kama vile unatembea na FILe la ukaine
 

Top US general: Russia has lost strategically, operationally and tactically​

From CNN's Michael Conte

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Mark Milley speaks at a press conference at the Pentagon in Washington, DC, on November 16.
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Mark Milley speaks at a press conference at the Pentagon in Washington, DC, on November 16. (Mandel Ngan/AFP/Getty Image)

Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Mark Milley says Russia has failed "every single" objective in its war against Ukraine.
“Russians have failed every single time. They’ve lost strategically, they’ve lost operationally and, I repeat, they lost tactically. What they’ve tried to do, they failed at,” Milley said Wednesday at a press conference with Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin after a meeting of the Ukraine Defense Contact Group. “The strategic reframing of their objectives, of their illegal invasion, have all failed, every single one of them.”
Milley listed Russia’s failure to “overrun all of Ukraine” at the start of the war as well as after their refocus on the Donbas region and the capture of Zaporizhzhia and Kherson.
“Across the entire frontline trace of some 900 or so kilometers, the Ukrainians have achieved success after success after success, and the Russians have failed every single time,” said Milley.
 
Kumbe componets za makombora ya iskander zinatoka US
The Iskander missiles wouldn’t be accurate if the Navis Design Bureau didn’t use the intellectual and technological resources of U.S. companies. Deliveries from Analog Devices and Texas Instruments were carried out through intermediary companies based in Switzerland, Israel, China, and Malaysia.

In nine out of ten cases, the logistics supply chain from the United States to Russia passed through Swiss company NVS Technologies AG. It has a very close relationship with Russia, as its CEO, Vasily Engeltsberg, is also a co-founder of DB Navis and owns more than 8% of its shares. Another co-founder of the Russian company, Valery Babakov (owns more than 29% of the company), worked as the chief designer of consumer navigation equipment at Almaz-Antey, a company that is being supplied with equipment from U.S. firms Nvidia, Indium, Zoller, Walter, and Techlub, Swiss Blaser Swisslube, and UK GARANT.
 
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Pentagon chief: NASAMS intercept all Russian missiles in Ukraine.
The U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said that the NASAMS air defense systems provided to Ukraine have a "100% success rate," Sky News reported.
Hiyo habari ya kubumba iliyoandikwa Kyiv Independent. Nimefuatilia link waliyoweka kutoka Sky news wanaposema wamepata habari hiyo, nimekuta huko Sky news Kuna habari za Bush kumuita Zelensiky ni 'Dude'!

Tafuteni ukweli vinginevyo mtaaibika.
 
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