Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Utakuwa umepiga kitu cha gongo[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23].maana sio bure, hata kujua Wgner group uwajui.we si unaona kabisa wana mpaka nembo za Wagner group.

Usipende kutoa habari bila kuakikisha vizuri[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
Hii inaitwa friendly firing
 
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Utakuwa umepiga kitu cha gongo[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23].maana sio bure, hata kujua Wgner group uwajui.we si unaona kabisa wana mpaka nembo za Wagner group.

Usipende kutoa habari bila kuakikisha vizuri[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Haujamuelewa! Anamaanisha Ukraine wanatangaza wamepiga counterattack Soledar wakati huo huo wanajeshi wa Urusi/ Wagner wanazunguka mitaa ya Soledar kwa amani kabisa
 
Naval News: three Russian submarines carrying Kalibr missiles left the port of Novorossiysk

Also, according to the publication, Russia withdrew the landing ship "Pyotr Morgunov" from the port.

❗️The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine warns of the threat of rocket attack on the entire territory of Ukraine
 
Isn't it time to retreat from Artemovsk before it's too late?" - The Western press is rocking the zrada

The Wall Street Journal writes that Ukraine has suffered heavy losses in Artemovsk and Soledar, quickly draining the forces of several brigades. The publication noted that the capture of Artemovsk paved the way for the liberation of the part of the Donetsk people's republic occupied by the Kiev regime.

At the same time, the authors write: Western and some Ukrainian officials, soldiers, and analysts are increasingly concerned that Kiev has allowed itself to be drawn into the battle for Artemovsk on Russian terms, losing strength in a stubborn fight for a city of limited strategic importance. Some say it would make sense to retreat to a new defensive line on the heights west of Bakhmut. In contrast, such a retreat can still be organized in a coordinated way, preserving the combat power of the Ukrainian military.
 
Lithuania will give Ukraine antiaircraft guns from the 1950s

Lithuanian President Gitanas Nauseda has solemnly announced that Ukraine will get military support from Vilnius after all.

The Baltics decided to "go with trumps" and splurged on 50s Bofors L70 automatic anti-aircraft guns made in Sweden.
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By Sladkov

THE APPOINTMENT OF THE NEW SMO LEADERSHIP IS A GUESSING GAME.

Valeriy Gerasimov - now the highest-ranking professional military officer officially appointed to command the SMO. The minister remains the minister; the General Staff is in charge of the war, and all responsibility is now on Valery Gerasimov. And all the reins are in his competence.

Now I will guess at the functionality. Alexei Kim. He fought in Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Syria, and Chechnya. He was highly valued by General Shamanov as the Head of Operations (all combat planning) of the 58th Army. At the beginning of the Second Chechen campaign, Alexey Kim was wounded, then continued his service. A short characteristic from his comrades-in-arms - clever. Probably A.R.Kim will become one of the generators of combat initiatives of SMO

Sergey Surovikin. In my opinion, he will be given preference as an implementer of all combat action plans. In my opinion, the most suitable option is a strong-willed, experienced general, capable of leading those who believe in him and making those who do not to leave.

General Oleg Salyukov. In my opinion - this is a military commander who knows and can do everything by the Charter. I would suggest his position is related to bringing the whole SMO mechanism to absolute discipline.

I deliberately do not specify the names of the posts; it is the business of the country's leadership. All these appointments indicate that SVO is becoming the main thing for all law enforcement agencies in Russia. Not "one of," but the main one.

I wonder if, at this stage, the structures of special services, police, Rosgvardiya, EMERCOM, etc., will report to the commander of OGV(S) ASB? Along the lines of the OGV(S) counter-terrorist operation in the North Caucasus to combine efforts?
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In any case, now we know exactly who is responsible for the quality of the SMO.
 
Naam mpaka sasa ni Wagner na Chen Chen tu lakini NATO wanakimbizwa mrusi bado hajaingiza jeshi,

Kaweka jeshi stand by beralus maana alianza kuona kuna ujinga NATO wanataka kuleta Kwa kujikusanya karibu na Russia [emoji1][emoji1][emoji1][emoji1]
Nasikia Mission ya Luhansk alipewa chechen sijajua imeishia wapi.
na mission Donetsk ndo wamekabidhiwa Wagner.
 
Bakhmut Meat Grinder: The Chernigov Region is Left Without Troops

Apparently, for Zelensky and his western masters, the defence of Artemovsk (Bakhmut) really is the most important goal. Just the day before, Russian channels reported that Chernigov territorial defence units had begun to be relocated to Artemovsk. The first to arrive on Bakhmut was the 167th battalion, as confirmed by the announcements of volunteers.
However, judging by the obituaries, there are not only territorial defence fighters in Artemovsk but also police and National Guard fighters from Chernigov.

Moreover, Russian channels reported that 350 corpses were brought to the Chernigov mortuary just a few days ago (we willingly believe it, judging by the number of obituaries), and that the next day Chernigov policemen were taken off their posts and transferred to Artemovsk in Donbass.

Thus, the Russian troops in the case of a new offensive in the Chernihiv region and surrounding areas will meet no resistance: virtually all combat-ready units of the AFU (another 10 brigades in the Kharkiv and Donetsk regions) are located near Artemovsk (Bakhmut), and from the Russian side there are only fighters from the Wagner PMC...
 
The Viking group of the Russian Armed Forces hit the stationing point of foreign mercenaries in Krasnogorovka

In total, the point housed up to a company of personnel.

❗️According to intelligence, the loss of the enemy amounted to about 40 people.
 
General Salyukov, the commander of the ground forces, arrived in Belarus to check the combat readiness of Russian troops .
Yesterday, he was appointed deputy commander of the grouping of troops in the North Military District.
▪️The military units and subunits of the Russian component of the regional grouping of troops at the Belarusian training grounds were inspected.
▪️ The quality of their combat readiness training was checked, and their readiness to carry out tasks as intended in the interests of ensuring the military security of the Union State(Belarus+ Russia) , was assessed.
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Shake-up: Russia REPLACES Surovikin as Commander over Ukraine​

WORLD HAL TURNER 11 JANUARY 2023 HITS: 8419
Shake-up: Russia REPLACES Surovikin as Commander over Ukraine

In a very surprising move, Russia has replaced General Surovikin, Commander over Ukrainian operations, with the Chief of the General Staff, General Gerasimov. This is quite a shock.
Surovikin was widely viewed as "General Armageddon" and the fact that he is now replaced is a sign that Russia is not happy with how Ukraine is proceeding.
Whatever the reason for Surovikin being replaced, Russian naval forces from the Russian port city of Novorossiysk, made a mass exodus from port late today. ALL the warships and ALL the submarines, put to the Black Sea.

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# Remember Red Army WW2 — Pilgrim 2023-01-12 13:19
General Armaghedon is still în charge.
Red Army in WW2 have "Front" general who supervise "Army" general ". Remember, Nord Front with Army 8,Army 12,Ar.my 19 and Guard Army ( for exemple). Also more Front with more Army who attack in different direction.
Russia prepare to open New operation with fresh troups. You know, Polish front to secure lLvov and cut supply from Poland, Bielorusia front to siege Kiev and Crimeea front to cut Ucraina from black șea.

+1# Entire Ukrainian Battalions were eliminated in Soledar. — Nevada Swede 2023-01-12 11:29
11/01/2023 22:17

Unimaginable massacre of 25,000 Ukrainian soldiers lost in Soledar. Hard video of Ukrainian soldiers jumping from five-story building and the Russian raid in the trenches.

Source w/Videos:

https://warnews247-gr.translate.goog/asyllipti-sfagi-25-000-apoleies-oukranon-stratioton-sto-soledar-sklira-vinteo-oukranoi-epesan-apo-pentaorofo-ktirio-efodos-roson-sta-charakomata/?_x_tr_sl=el&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

-2# No, this means he was — la0508 2023-01-12 10:46
chastised for allowing the death of scores of Russian soldiers under his watch to be killed by a Ukrainia missile on New Year's eve. He probably isn't at fault and Putin knows this, but it happened and he must be replaced. He is still second in command, along with another general. That said, the Russians are preparing to meet nato and destroy this threat. If you look at his photo, sitting alongside Gerasimov, who is now in charge (and has been one of Putin's right hand men for a long time), Suroviki looks chastised. Very.

+1# RE: Shake-up: Russia REPLACES Surovikin as Commander over Ukraine — FewThereBe 2023-01-12 10:05
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This means Russia is going on a war footing.

The only shock should be to the US/EU/NATO.

They should be collectively shaking in their boots.

Russia hasn't even begun this war.

And, I believe for prophetic reasons, that the Lord is with Russia.

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+2# RE: Shake-up: Russia REPLACES Surovikin as Commander over Ukraine — Canis Major 2023-01-12 08:49
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General Surovikin will placed in charge of running special Ops (sabotage teams) behind enemy (NATO) lines.

Which lines in which locations?...inside enemy territory (Poland, Lithuania, Germany, Italy, France and lets not forget Britain.

+6# Just tells me Ops are going to get bigger and more complex — Jack Box 2023-01-12 00:43
So they need a theater commander before they open up multiple fronts. It is just more preparations for a widening of the conflict. It is likely getting close to direct fighting with NATO. This is especially true if the Uke losses are as bad as being reported (25,000+) in Soledar alone in the last 4-6 weeks. Now Poland and Lithuania are talking some sort of alliance with Ukraine is in the works.

+1# Exactly — ell 2023-01-12 06:42
Even WarNews is saying it wasn’t a demotion, it was a strategic reorganization for something much bigger. Ο πόλεμος στην Ουκρανία γενικεύεται: Νέος Διοικητής των ρωσικών δυνάμ

+5# RE: Just tells me Ops are going to get bigger and more complex — warreng5995 2023-01-12 01:17
Yep, thats what I was just telling someone. Putin is moving the top general up to focus on preparing for war against NATO.

Sending all the ships out from port may even be the first move. Wonder how many other subs are being sent out from other locations.

# And that is exactly where you would want someone with his “lethal” mindset. — Jessiebeaner 2023-01-12 09:07
Let us all hope he is very successful in his new position.

+1# RE: Shake-up: Russia REPLACES Surovikin as Commander over Ukraine — The Deplorable Renegade 2023-01-11 23:01
Putin is planning something big sending out that many ships. More targets for Ukrainian drones, etc.

+5# Russia's explanation — LauraL 2023-01-11 22:07
MOSCOW, January 11 - RIA Novosti.

Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu has appointed Valery Gerasimov, Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, commander of a group of forces in the zone of a special military operation.

"Army General Valery Gerasimov, Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, has been appointed Commander of the Joint Group of Troops (Forces)," the ministry said.

It is specified that his deputies were Commander-in-Chief of the Ground Forces Oleg Salyukov , Deputy Chief of the General Staff Alexei Kim and Commander-in-Chief of the Aerospace Forces Sergei Surovikin , who previously held the position of commander of the United Group.

The department emphasized that the increase in the level of command in the framework of the special operation is associated with the expansion of the scale of the tasks to be solved. In addition, we are talking about the need to organize closer interaction between the branches and branches of the troops, as well as to improve the quality of all types of support and the effectiveness of command and control of groupings of forces.



+5# The fixer — MANYROUNDS 2023-01-11 20:44
Perhaps he was only there to straighten things out prior to other actions, and will be doing something else now deemed a fit for his unique talents, there is the American problem for them to yet deal with, and they surely will.

+15# RE: Shake-up: Russia REPLACES Surovikin as Commander over Ukraine — thesloth 2023-01-11 20:26
Either Russia has intelligence which indicates a décapitation strike against their black sea fleet by NATO or they are preparing one of their own.

+14# Something Big? — Logan5 2023-01-11 20:15
Maybe Surovikin is being promoted to something Bigger.
If all the ships left port something big is about to happen.
For the enemies of Russia, the day STILL does not begin with coffee.

+27# Shake-up? — dewill 2023-01-11 19:37
Notice that Surovikin’s responsibilities were not reassigned to a subordinate (promotion) or even a peer (lateral) officer; his responsibilities were assigned to a superior officer in General Gerasimov. Gerasimov is Chief of the General Staff and second only to Defense Minister Shoigu. Look at it this way, Russian command of the European Theater was just given to our equivalent of a General Patton or General MacArthur. Surovikin is Gerasimov’s deputy and still in command of the aerospace forces in Theater.

With General Gerasimov taking command in the European Theater we are heading for a SHTF event between Russia and NATO very soon.

+2# Great point. — Gregg W 2023-01-11 23:35
I think you hit the nail on the head.

+17# Bang! — Mel 2023-01-11 20:40
Great point / observation!

The commander wasn't demoted.
The position was promoted.

Somebody in NATO had better think about their strategy long and hard before hitting any "go" button.

+2# shake-up — chikquita 2023-01-11 20:08
you are 'right on the money'


-14# 1 — chrisg 2023-01-11 19:37
Don't know how Putin's putting up with all this humiliation

+8# well — Greg5000 2023-01-11 19:11
probably gearing up for a larger world war

US UK Japan signing defense pacts today and tomorrow.

war can break out any day

+7# Russia at war with Japan — dewill 2023-01-11 19:48
Don't know how many people realize this but a "state of war" still exists between Russia and Japan from WWII.

-17# 1 — chrisg 2023-01-11 19:41
They caThey cant even handle the Ukrainians and you think they're gearing up for a bigger war?

+12# RE: 1 — Gunner 2023-01-11 20:11
This entire "situation" hasn't really seemed "right" to me from the damn start. I am positive there is much, much more than meets the eyes.

+6# RE: Shake-up: Russia REPLACES Surovikin as Commander over Ukraine — RockyMountainBeerMan 2023-01-11 19:06
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Maybe he was good at this type of conflict, but now that it's time for a major push, the other general is better at major pushes.
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-1# RE: Shake-up: Russia REPLACES Surovikin as Commander over Ukraine — selah 2023-01-11 19:02
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