Kama vile Ujerumani wanataka kukwepa huu mtanangeNATO "contact group" (War Council) meeting at Ramstein air base Germany over Ukraine
20 JANUARY 2023
At least thirty-two (32) military Generals have convened for a meeting at Ramstein Air Base in Germany, to discuss future "aid" and "tactics" for the ongoing Ukraine-Russia conflict. Today, the world will find out if Germany will approve the sending of German tanks to Ukraine - a "Red Line" for Russia.
Germany manufactures the Leopard-2 main battle tank. Several other countries in Europe have purchased a number of these tanks over the years, and want to ive them to Ukraine, so as to fight Russia, but there's a problem.
When a country manufactures weapons, and then sells those weapons to another country, the sale is contingent on the receiving country agreeing NOT to re-sell (or give) those weapons to anyone else without permission of the originating country.
In this case, Poland want to give the Leopard-2 tanks they bought, to Ukraine. Germany has not given permission, so the tanks cannot go.
Last week, the German Defense Minister, Lebrecht, resigned There is now a new Defense Minister, and he is attending today's meeting at Ramstein Air Base.
Leaked information coming out of Germany indicates the new minister will approve the transfer of Leopard-2 tanks, but right now, that is only RUMOR.
Yet, there are additional problems.
Through political back-channels, Russia has informed Germany that if German tanks attack Russian soil, it will be a violation of the Potsdam Treaty that ended World War Two. That Treaty makes clear Germany is only allowed to have a "Defense Force" which can be used "for nothing else." Manufacturing tanks which are then sent to Ukraine to fight Russia, would be using the German military for "something else" and Russia's position is that will violate the Demilitarization" provisions of the Potsdam Treaty. Russia allegedly told Germany that if German tanks attack Russian soil "World War 3 will begin immediately.
The rub here is that the former oblasts of Luhansk, Donetsk, Kherson, and Zaporozyhe, have now joined Russia and been accepted by the Russian legislature, called the Duma. So those territories are now "Russian soil."
Ukraine does not recognize this, nor does the collective West. They refer to those oblasts as having been "illegally annexed."
So Russia views the territories as Russian soil, the West does not. If Ukraine is given German tanks and use those tanks to attack "Russian Soil" it will re-start World War 2, or be known as "World War 3."That is how close the entire world is to horrifying war on a vast scale, and we all get to hear the decision about the German tanks, today.
UPDATE 11:50 AM EST --
The new German Defense Minister, Boris Pistorius has just publicly announced "NATO countries failed to reach a unified position regarding the supply of Leopard 2 tanks to Kyiv." He went on to say ""Statements by the media that Germany is on the way to creating a coalition to send heavy tanks to Ukraine are lies. There are good reasons to send equipment, but there are also reasons not to." All pros and cons must be weighed. Many allies share our point of view, Pistorius added.
Awataki vifaru vyao vije kuchekwa [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]Kama vile Ujerumani wanataka kukwepa huu mtanange
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣Kama ile ishu ya mig za poland.
US akamwambia Poland apeleke hizo ndege (mig 29) Ukraine ili ampe F16,
US considers sending F-16s to Poland if Warsaw gives its MIG-29 to Ukraine
Poland akaona anawekwa 'frontline' kijanja akamuambia US, yeye (Poland) hapeleki ndge yoyote Ukraine bali atazipeleka hizo ndege kwenye kambi ya US iliyoko ulaya (Ujerumani) Alafu wao US ndio wazipeleke Ukraine.
The Polish scheme proposed that the Russian made MiG-29 fighter jets be delivered to a US base in Ramstein, Germany, and then be deployed to Ukraine.
Kwani walikubali [emoji16]
The United States has rejected Poland’s offer to send its MiG-29 fighter jets to Ukraine via a US airbase in Germany, saying the proposal raised “serious concerns” for the entire NATO alliance.
🇷🇺💪🇷🇺💪🇷🇺💪🇷🇺💪🇷🇺💪🇷🇺💪🇷🇺💪🇷🇺NATO "contact group" (War Council) meeting at Ramstein air base Germany over Ukraine
20 JANUARY 2023
At least thirty-two (32) military Generals have convened for a meeting at Ramstein Air Base in Germany, to discuss future "aid" and "tactics" for the ongoing Ukraine-Russia conflict. Today, the world will find out if Germany will approve the sending of German tanks to Ukraine - a "Red Line" for Russia.
Germany manufactures the Leopard-2 main battle tank. Several other countries in Europe have purchased a number of these tanks over the years, and want to ive them to Ukraine, so as to fight Russia, but there's a problem.
When a country manufactures weapons, and then sells those weapons to another country, the sale is contingent on the receiving country agreeing NOT to re-sell (or give) those weapons to anyone else without permission of the originating country.
In this case, Poland want to give the Leopard-2 tanks they bought, to Ukraine. Germany has not given permission, so the tanks cannot go.
Last week, the German Defense Minister, Lebrecht, resigned There is now a new Defense Minister, and he is attending today's meeting at Ramstein Air Base.
Leaked information coming out of Germany indicates the new minister will approve the transfer of Leopard-2 tanks, but right now, that is only RUMOR.
Yet, there are additional problems.
Through political back-channels, Russia has informed Germany that if German tanks attack Russian soil, it will be a violation of the Potsdam Treaty that ended World War Two. That Treaty makes clear Germany is only allowed to have a "Defense Force" which can be used "for nothing else." Manufacturing tanks which are then sent to Ukraine to fight Russia, would be using the German military for "something else" and Russia's position is that will violate the Demilitarization" provisions of the Potsdam Treaty. Russia allegedly told Germany that if German tanks attack Russian soil "World War 3 will begin immediately.
The rub here is that the former oblasts of Luhansk, Donetsk, Kherson, and Zaporozyhe, have now joined Russia and been accepted by the Russian legislature, called the Duma. So those territories are now "Russian soil."
Ukraine does not recognize this, nor does the collective West. They refer to those oblasts as having been "illegally annexed."
So Russia views the territories as Russian soil, the West does not. If Ukraine is given German tanks and use those tanks to attack "Russian Soil" it will re-start World War 2, or be known as "World War 3."That is how close the entire world is to horrifying war on a vast scale, and we all get to hear the decision about the German tanks, today.
UPDATE 11:50 AM EST --
The new German Defense Minister, Boris Pistorius has just publicly announced "NATO countries failed to reach a unified position regarding the supply of Leopard 2 tanks to Kyiv." He went on to say ""Statements by the media that Germany is on the way to creating a coalition to send heavy tanks to Ukraine are lies. There are good reasons to send equipment, but there are also reasons not to." All pros and cons must be weighed. Many allies share our point of view, Pistorius added.
Wamekufa sana huko Bakhmut,, hii inapelekea line of defense zao kuanza ku collapse kuanzia bakhmut hadi zaporidhdhia,West wamemcost Ukraine, naona hata kupigana nikamavile wanajeshi wa Ukraine wameishajikatia tamaa....wanasubiri order ya kusurrender tu....kwa upande mwingine Russia ndo kama wanaanza vita...
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Labda alimaanisha jenerali ulimwengu[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] unajua maana ya jenelali au unalopoka tu.ndo maana nasema hauna unachokijua ila unapenda kuongea kama vile kuna vitu unavijua.yani ujiunge jeshini mwezi wa 7 mpaka ifike mwezi wa 10 uwe jenelali.yani ukae jeshini miezi mitatu upewe cheo cha jenelali[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23].
Kuna watu wapo zaidi ya miaka, alafu uje wewe ndani za miezi mitatu upewe cheo cha jenelali.ebu kuwa serious kijana
Germany wamesoma mchezo wa kijinga wa USA wanajua dhahiri hii vita itaumiza uchumi wao vibaya sana.You can't even read between the lines kujua kwamba Ujerumani inachezea akili USA kwa mbinu za hali ya juu kabisa - unapo ambiwa kwamba kumetokea heated debate halafu wanajifanya suala hilo litapelekwa mbele kujadiriwa zaidi - FYI, that alone speaks volumes about Germans hawataki kujiingiza kwenye mgogoro wa Ukraine kichwa kichwa ie hawa-support modus operandi za Joe Biden katika vita hii inayo vuruga uchumi wa Ulaya kutokana na chuki binafsi za Biden na Putin - hata wakishinikizwa na US kupeleka vifaru hivyo Ukraine havitafanya kazi iliyo kusudiwa vyote vitakuwa not battle worthy no spare parts and make believe shells - wajerumani wajanja sana.
Hakuna cha nzigo sasa hivi Ulaya wanalazimisha Ujerumani kupeleka mzigo na mjerumani anasema mpaka Amerika apeleke Kwanza ndio nae afikilieMimi nimekuletea taharifa tu mkuu, jinsi mzigo unavyozidi kumwagwa.., mengine yote utakuwa umeongezea mwenyewe [emoji28]
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Sio tu kukata tamaa, according to my sources pia Kuna wanajeshi wa Ukraine wanajisalimisha kwa jeshi la Urusi wakigoma kupigana na Urusi na wengine wanajiunga na jeshi la Urusi wakimrudishia Zelensky kichapo. Yani huyu Zerozensk asipokuwa makini atakuja kutolewa na jeshi lake madarakani Kama si kukimbia nchi.West wamemcost Ukraine, naona hata kupigana nikamavile wanajeshi wa Ukraine wameishajikatia tamaa....wanasubiri order ya kusurrender tu....kwa upande mwingine Russia ndo kama wanaanza vita...
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Mbona sasa wanaogopa kupeleka midoli yaoSababu ya kutopeleka hii hapa
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Ila hata hizo Challenger na Leopold zitakuwa msumari wa moto kwa huyu Supa-pawa wa kuchora.