Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

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Ujerumani imedumazwa na US. Ujerumani, Japan Wala so mataifa ya kununua silaha kws Marekani.

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Hayajadumazwa hata.....ila yananunua kilicho bora kutoka USA.

Hata wao wana makampuni yao ya kutengeneza silaha ila teknolojia zimezidiana.

 

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F-35 ni stealth ila hiyo Yak-141 sio stealth....wamecopya kitu gani ?

In late 80s stealthy wasnt an issue. Na yet stealthy sio issue mpaka sasa kwa military doctrine ya baadhi ya nchi.
US amejikita kwenye stealthy technology ili aweze kuattack deep into enemy territory bila kuwa detected. Military doctrine yake inamtaka awe More offensive na kuproject power nje ya mipaka yake


Mrusi yeye mikitary doctrine yake iko tofauti. Imejikita kwenye defensive warfare, and attack enemy territory from a distance. Hii doctrine imemfanya awe mzuri sana kwenye kudevelop mifumo ya kulinda anga ambayo inauwezo wa kuona hata Kitenesi kikiwa kwenye anga lake 400km away. Hii inafanya stealthy aircrafts za mmarekani kuwa obsolete kwa mrusi.

Baada ya hapo akawekeza kwenye missiles ambazo zinaweza kuntungua mmarekani na aircraft carrier zake muda wowote anaotaka. In missile technology, mrusi yuko 10 years ahead ya Mmarekani.

Kwa iyo stealthy bado kwa mrusi sio a big deal, ameunda Su-57 kuonesha kwamba technology ya stealthy anayo. Na afterall..hata iyo stealthy technology mmarekani ameitoa Urusi.

For your reference.....pitia hii link toka kwenye vyanzo vyenu wenyewe vya kibeberu.

'Legally Copied' By Lockheed Martin - Was US Navy's F-35B, China's J-20 Derived From Soviet-Russian Aircraft?

As the F-35 stealth jets could confront Russian fighters at some point in Europe, the plane and its design were a direct derivative of a former Soviet Union project that could not be completed when the Communist superpower collapsed – the Yakovlev Yak-141. War In Ukraine Has ‘Dramatically...

eurasiantimes.com

 

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Kwa iyo stealthy bado kwa mrusi sio a big deal, ameunda Su-57 kuonesha kwamba technology ya stealthy anayo. Na afterall..hata iyo stealthy technology mmarekani ameitoa Urusi.

Scam...

 

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The Patriot battery won't help Ukraine against Russian cruise missiles," Kirby, a White House spokesman, told CNN. The system is designed to intercept ballistic missiles, and Russian forces use winged and drones in Ukraine, against which the Patriot is not at all effective, Kirb

 

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"Mauzo ya silaha za China kwa Urusi yatakuwa sawa na mauzo ya silaha ya Marekani kwa Taiwan."- Wizara ya mambo ya nje ya China.

 

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Ni kweli kwamba maarifa kutoka Yak 141 yaliingia katika vyanzo vya F35. Urusi ina mainjinia wazuri, changamoto yao mara nyingi ni uzalishaji. Hata Yak 141 ilijengwa ndege chache sana mpaka mradi kufilisika - na kwa miaka 1991-93 Lockheed ya Marekani ilisaidia milioni mia kadhaa kutengeneza ndege za jaribio za ziada.
Ila Lockheed wakati ule walifanyia kazi X-35 iliyokuwa mtangulizi mmojawapo wa F35. Nadhani walikopi vitu kadhaa kutoka maarifa ya Yak 141. Ila kudai F35 ni kopi ya Yak141 - sidhani si sahihi. Ukiamini vile, tafadhali utaje yale yaliyonakiliwa.
Maana tekinolojia ya VTOL ilipatikana tayari kwenye Harrier ya Uingereza (iliyotangulia, nisipokosei Warusi walianzisha Yak141 wakilenga kuiga na kuwa bora kuliko Harrier), lakini pia Boeing walishughulika tayari X32 yenye VTOL. Lockheed iliamua kushirikiana na Yak141 kwa sababu ilitafuta usaidizi kushindana na Boeing.

Very true, harrier ya mwingereza was the pioneer kwenye VTOL technology na technology yake ilikuwa poor in a sense that iliicost hii ndege kwenye range na manuverbility.

Kumbuka kipindi icho muingereza anaresearch kuja na harrier, mrusi alikuwa anaunda Yak 38. Hizi jets zinatofautiana miaka 3 tu. Na zinatumia technology tofauti. So hakuna aliemcopy mwenzie

Mrusi akaja na Yak-38 miaka ya 70. Ambazo 231 units zilitengenezwa, na kuja na improved version ya Yak-41 in 90s.

Kumbuka, hii technology za VTOL mpaka sasa mmarekani hana, hata iyo F35 alioazima technology ya msoviet bado alishindwa kuja VTOL inayoeleweka miaka 30 baadae.

F35 ni STOVL na sio VTOL. F35 inahitaji runway kutake off...its VTOL capability its only when is not loaded na mzigo/silaha Of which its obsolete.

Pitia picha hapa toka kwenye vyanzo vya kibeberu kuonesha utofauti ya hizi technologis ya mrusi, muamerica na mwingereza

 

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Scam...

Jitahidi kujifunza tajiri..... For your reference,msome mrusi Pyotr Ufimtesev, taarifa zake zinanapatikana sana kwenye vyanzo vingi tu vya kibeberu.

Pyotr Ufimtsev - Wikipedia

Aliruhusiwa kupublish paper yake kwa mabeberu maana stealthy haikuwa na any military or economic value kwa mrusi,na haina value mpaka sasa as we speak.

 

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Jitahidi kujifunza tajiri..... For your reference,msome mrusi Pyotr Ufimtesev, taarifa zake zinanapatikana sana kwenye vyanzo vingi tu vya kibeberu.

Pyotr Ufimtsev - Wikipedia

Aliruhusiwa kupublish paper yake kwa mabeberu maana stealthy haikuwa na any military or economic value kwa mrusi,na haina value mpaka sasa as we speak.

Mrusi lazima avutie upande wao.

 

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Mrusi lazima avutie upande wao.

Tafuta source unayoiamini umsome uyo msoviet na profile yake afsa. .....ikibidi tafuta hata jarida la toka pentagon, labda utaliamini ilo.

 

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Tafuta source unayoiamini umsome uyo msoviet na profile yake afsa. .....ikibidi tafuta hata jarida la toka pentagon, labda utaliamini ilo.

Huyo Mrusi lazima aegemee upande mmoja vivyo hivyo hata Pentagon pia, muhimu uchague upande unaouona ni sahihi kwa mtazamo wako.

Stealth isingekuwa muhimu tusingeona SU-57, japo zipo chache tu sababu ya gharama kubwa ya uzalishaji.

 

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"Mauzo ya silaha za China kwa Urusi yatakuwa sawa na mauzo ya silaha ya Marekani kwa Taiwan."- Wizara ya mambo ya nje ya China.

Ni kweli kama Marekani ana haki ya kuwauzia silaha Taiwan kwanini China isiwe na haki kuuza silaha kwa Urusi.

 

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Unaleta sehemu ndogo ya makala nzuri. Taarifa hiyo inaendelea ikisema: akiba ya Urusi imepungua sana, hasa akiba ya roketi makini. Hivyo tumeona matumizi ya roketi za zamani ambazo si makini.
Katika mashambulio ya juzi roketi makini zilikuwa sehemu ndogo tu ya roketi zote. Hii inachukuliwa kama dalili kwamba Urusi ina matatizo kujaza akiba yake tena.
Taarifa hiyo inasema pia kwamba Urusi inaendelea kuzalisha idadi fulani ya roketi. Kwa hiyo itaweza kurusha tena na tena kundi la roketi, kila baada ya wiki kadhaa hadi roketi mpya zinapatikana tena.
Lakini haina uwezo kurusha makundi ya roketi mfululizo, na haina uwezo wa kurusha idadi kubwa ya roketi makini. Hivyo tutaendelea kuona yale mashambulio ya hovyo yanayoharibu mara nyumba za watu, mara miti kwenye bustani, mara shule, mara kituo cha umeme...
Ukitaka kusoma yote: How many missiles does Russia have left?

Kwani taarifa ya kuishiwa hayo makombora kaitoa Urusi mwenyewe? Yakiungurumishwa tunaanza kulialia Mrusi sio binadamu

 

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Kwani taarifa ya kuishiwa hayo makombora kaitoa Urusi mwenyewe? Yakiungurumishwa tunaanza kulialia Mrusi sio binadamu

Wewe unaanza kulialia vile? Kwa nini?
Kila kitabu cha historia itakuonyesha kwamba ukali wa kinyama ni tabia ya kibinadamu inayoweza kujionyesha kila wakati.

 

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Tatizo pro west wengi wanaamini taarifa zinazotolewa na media zao bila kushirikisha hata akili zao,
Waliaminishwa Russia yuko weak kiuchumi hawezi kuhimili vita vya muda mrefu, kwa sasa wameona mambo ni tofauti.

Wakaaminishwa Russia hana silaha na man power hivyo ndani ya siku 10 SMO ita cease, bila kushirikisha akili zao kwamba Russia ni mojawapo ya nchi zenye jeshi kubwa by number na ni producer mkubwa wa silaha, wenyewe wakaamini taarifa hiyo kwamba hana man power na ana changamoto ya silaha
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Waliaminishwa kwamba vikwazo ambavyo Russia aliwekewa na "international community" vitasabanisha uchumi wa Russia kuyumba na vitafanya Russia akose hela kugharamikia vita hivyo angerudisha majeshi ila wakawa surprised vikwazo havikufanya yaliyotarajiwa na west wakaanza kuulizanaView attachment 2543637View attachment 2543638
Wakaaminishwa pia
"Russia is resorting to putting computer chips from dishwashers and refrigerators in tanks due to US sanctions"

Russia's two major tank plants — Uralvagonzavod Corporation and Chelyabinsk Tractor Plant — have "halted" work due to lack of foreign components
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Ila medvedev alienda kiwandani na mzigo ulikua unaendelea kuwa produced kama kawaida na akasisitiza waboost production.

Wajuvi wa mambo watueleze bado Russia anatumia semiconductors kutoka kwenye friji na dishwasher kwenye kufix tanks zake?
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Hao Nexta kwa hiyo taarifa yao ya mchongo ilibidi wapigwe ban kbs ni ajabu bado wapo wanaendelea kudanganya watu.

 

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Alaf utarudi kudai hoja. Wewe unaweka vihoja alafu sisi unademand tukupe hoja. Hebu muite T14 Armata aje akusaidie. Su57 ina speed zaidi, payload kubwa zaidi, range na maneuverability zaidi. Tushaachana na hizo mambo nyuma huko

 

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"Mauzo ya silaha za China kwa Urusi yatakuwa sawa na mauzo ya silaha ya Marekani kwa Taiwan."- Wizara ya mambo ya nje ya China.

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Wachina na mantiki za mkuki kwa nguruwe...

 

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Alaf utarudi kudai hoja. Wewe unaweka vihoja alafu sisi unademand tukupe hoja. Hebu muite T14 Armata aje akusaidie. Su57 ina speed zaidi, payload kubwa zaidi, range na maneuverability zaidi. Tushaachana na hizo mambo nyuma huko

Uzuri Proved ameelewa. Hapo ndo advantage yake ya kuwa mjinga ilipo. Kwamba hakuwa na maarifa , ila baada ya kueleweshwa mambo asioyajua, amekuwa mwerevu. Which is good.🤣🤣

Changamoto iko ukikutana na wapumbavu ...kipanya na wenzake

 

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Ni kweli kwamba maarifa kutoka Yak 141 yaliingia katika vyanzo vya F35. Urusi ina mainjinia wazuri, changamoto yao mara nyingi ni uzalishaji. Hata Yak 141 ilijengwa ndege chache sana mpaka mradi kufilisika - na kwa miaka 1991-93 Lockheed ya Marekani ilisaidia milioni mia kadhaa kutengeneza ndege za jaribio za ziada.
Ila Lockheed wakati ule walifanyia kazi X-35 iliyokuwa mtangulizi mmojawapo wa F35. Nadhani walikopi vitu kadhaa kutoka maarifa ya Yak 141. Ila kudai F35 ni kopi ya Yak141 - sidhani si sahihi. Ukiamini vile, tafadhali utaje yale yaliyonakiliwa.
Maana tekinolojia ya VTOL ilipatikana tayari kwenye Harrier ya Uingereza (iliyotangulia, nisipokosei Warusi walianzisha Yak141 wakilenga kuiga na kuwa bora kuliko Harrier), lakini pia Boeing walishughulika tayari X32 yenye VTOL. Lockheed iliamua kushirikiana na Yak141 kwa sababu ilitafuta usaidizi kushindana na Boeing.

ww mfuasi kindakindaki wa 'Collective West'...usitafute pakutokea...., tunakubaliana in principal kuwa F35 ni COPPY... ya Yak 141....period!.... kwa kiwango kipi...mimi na wewe kung'amua ni issue..!!!...naomba tuishi humo kwenye neno 'coppy'..

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