Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Zelensky Admitting Defeat?​

“Our society will feel tired” if the Russians win in Bakhmut, Zelensky said. “Our society will push me to have compromise with them.”

April 1, 2023

Zelensky Says if He Loses Bakhmut, He Will Be Pushed to ‘Compromise’ With Russia​

President Volodymyr Zelensky told The Associated Press on Wednesday that if the Donbas city of Bakhmut falls to Russia, he would be pressured to “compromise” with Moscow.
“Our society will feel tired” if the Russians win in Bakhmut, Zelensky said. “Our society will push me to have compromise with them.”
He said if Bakhmut falls, Russian President Vladimir Putin could “sell this victory to the West, to his society, to China, to Iran” as leverage to seek a ceasefire deal that would involve Kyiv ceding territory to Moscow. “If he will feel some blood — smell that we are weak — he will push, push, push,” Zelensky said.
Russian forces are close to encircling the city of Bakhmut, but the battle is still raging as Ukraine continues to send soldiers into what has become known as the “meat grinder.” Ukrainians fighting on the front lines have told the media that soldiers are being sent into battle with very little training, support, and ammunition.
Military situation in Bakhmut on March 28, 2023
Earlier this month, the head of the Russian mercenary outfit Wagner Group, Yevgeny Prigozhin, said the fighting in Bakhmut was getting “fiercer” and said Ukraine was “supplying endless reserves” for the battle.
Zelensky’s comments about Bakhmut come after he said Kyiv could not launch a counteroffensive unless its Western backers supply even more weapons. He told AP on Wednesday that “the United States really understands that if they stop helping us, we will not win.”
The US and its allies want Ukraine to give up on Bakhmut and to launch a counteroffensive against Russia this spring, but the prospect seems increasingly unlikely. A senior Ukrainian government official told The Washington Post earlier this month that Ukraine doesn’t have enough people or weapons to launch an offensive.

Mambo mengine unaweza kudhani ni kichekesho kumbe ni kweli. Kwa Sasa Ukraine wameishiwa wanaume wapiganaji kufikia kumsajiri mlemavu asiye na mikono yote miwili na kusema Yuko fiti kabisa Kwa kazi ya jeshi.
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In the Western media, the story of the delivery of the summons to 27-year-old resident of Drogobych (Lviv region) Ruslan Kubai, a disabled child of the 1st group, who is missing both hands, received a great response. This case, in particular, was written by The Wall Street Journal and The Economist .

Kubay received a summons demanding to appear for a medical examination at the military registration and enlistment office in January. And instead of admitting their mistake, local officials declared him fit for service. So, at the military medical commission, he was marked "74-v", meaning that a person is unfit for military service in peacetime, but limitedly suitable in wartime.

It is noteworthy in this whole story that the disabled child was removed from the military register only after the scandal in the media and social networks : “I turned to lawyers, to the authorities to finally prove what is already so obvious” that I am disabled. After the scandal in social networks, they finally wrote to me that I was removed from the military register, " Kubay himself notes.

Kwa wanaojua kirusi iangalie hapa

В западных СМИ получила большой резонанс история о вручении повестки 27-летнему жителю Дрогобыча (Львовская обл.) Руслану Кубаю — инвалиду детства 1-й группы, у которого отсутствуют обе кисти рук. Об этом случае, в частности, писали The Wall Street Journal и The Economist.

Кубай получил повестку с требованием явиться на медкомиссию в военкомат еще в январе. И вместо того, чтобы признать свою ошибку, местные чиновники объявили его годным к службе. Так, на военно-врачебной комиссии ему поставили отметку "74-в", означающую, что человек непригоден к военной службе в мирное время, но ограниченно пригоден в военное время.

Примечательно во всей этой истории то, что сняли инвалида детства с воинского учета только лишь после скандала в СМИ и соцсетях: "Я обратился к юристам, к властям, чтобы наконец доказать то, что и так очевидно " что я инвалид. После скандала в соцсетях мне наконец-то написали, что я снят с воинского учета", — отмечает сам Кубай.

Safari hii warusi wamejipanga ukraine kila ikifanya counter attack huko zaporozinye wanaishia kupewa kichapo huku warusi wakijazana huko belarusi kwa maandalizi ya kurudi tena kiev ndo maana tangu wiki iliyopita urusi ilikiwa inaziteketeza military post za ukraine huko ktk mji wa sumy

Bome-e said:

Kauli ya Putin sio ya bure!Hapo Finland wanaenda kuongezwa kwenye mataifa hatari dhidi ya Russia ikitokea vita between Russia na US au member wa NATO!
Nukes za kwanza zitatua Kwa majirani wa Urusi member wa NATO kwanza kabla US hajafikiwa!
Yaani Kwa jirani wa Russia ambaye hana mgogoro na Russia,ni hatari zaidi kuwa member wa NATO kuliko kuwa neutral!
Sweden na Finland wamekurupuka au kudanganywa na US!

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Kwani hizo nukes Urusi anazo yeye tu.
Jirani wa Russia ni hatari kutokuwa NATO, Ukraine hakuwepo kavamiwa tena yeye ni former member wa Soviet block na alikuwa wa pili kwa umuhimu baada ya Russia. Georgia naye former member kavamiwa na Urusi na katengwa maeneo yake.

Putin amefanikiwa kuongeza wanachama wa NATO. Hilo la denazification amelisahau

manning said:

Mambo mengine unaweza kudhani ni kichekesho kumbe ni kweli. Kwa Sasa Ukraine wameishiwa wanaume wapiganaji kufikia kumsajiri mlemavu asiye na mikono yote miwili na kusema Yuko fiti kabisa Kwa kazi ya jeshi.
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In the Western media, the story of the delivery of the summons to 27-year-old resident of Drogobych (Lviv region) Ruslan Kubai, a disabled child of the 1st group, who is missing both hands, received a great response. This case, in particular, was written by The Wall Street Journal and The Economist .

Kubay received a summons demanding to appear for a medical examination at the military registration and enlistment office in January. And instead of admitting their mistake, local officials declared him fit for service. So, at the military medical commission, he was marked "74-v", meaning that a person is unfit for military service in peacetime, but limitedly suitable in wartime.

It is noteworthy in this whole story that the disabled child was removed from the military register only after the scandal in the media and social networks : “I turned to lawyers, to the authorities to finally prove what is already so obvious” that I am disabled. After the scandal in social networks, they finally wrote to me that I was removed from the military register, " Kubay himself notes.

Kwa wanaojua kirusi iangalie hapa

В западных СМИ получила большой резонанс история о вручении повестки 27-летнему жителю Дрогобыча (Львовская обл.) Руслану Кубаю — инвалиду детства 1-й группы, у которого отсутствуют обе кисти рук. Об этом случае, в частности, писали The Wall Street Journal и The Economist.

Кубай получил повестку с требованием явиться на медкомиссию в военкомат еще в январе. И вместо того, чтобы признать свою ошибку, местные чиновники объявили его годным к службе. Так, на военно-врачебной комиссии ему поставили отметку "74-в", означающую, что человек непригоден к военной службе в мирное время, но ограниченно пригоден в военное время.

Примечательно во всей этой истории то, что сняли инвалида детства с воинского учета только лишь после скандала в СМИ и соцсетях: "Я обратился к юристам, к властям, чтобы наконец доказать то, что и так очевидно " что я инвалид. После скандала в соцсетях мне наконец-то написали, что я снят с воинского учета", — отмечает сам Кубай.

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Hoja yako haina ushahidi, ni porojo tu kutoka Urusi dhidi ya Ukraine tena imeandikwa kwa Kirusi kabisa.

Hilo la kukimbia mobilization, hawa ni Warusi mpakani wanakimbilia Georgia nchi ileile waliyovamia mwaka 2008. Wanakwepa mobilization na huo ni mpaka mmoja na siku moja hapo. Kuna mipaka mingine na kuna walioenda kwa ndege
Na kumbe Waukraine wameishiwa. Sasa supapawa mbona anashindwa watu walioishiwa

T14 Armata said:

Kwani hizo nukes Urusi anazo yeye tu.
Jirani wa Russia ni hatari kutokuwa NATO, Ukraine hakuwepo kavamiwa tena yeye ni former member wa Soviet block na alikuwa wa pili kwa umuhimu baada ya Russia. Georgia naye former member kavamiwa na Urusi na katengwa maeneo yake.

Putin amefanikiwa kuongeza wanachama wa NATO. Hilo la denazification amelisahau

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Hukunisoma niliposema jirani ambaye hana mgogoro na Russia!Hiyo line ungeielewa nadhani usingecomment hivyo!
Finland na Sweden hawana conflict na Russia!
Nukes hana Russia pekee,ila ikitokea nuclear war,majirani wa Russia ambao ni member wa NATO watashughulikiwa kwanza!
Kwenye nuclear war,hakuna mshindi,kila upande utaumia!
Fikiri kama inatokea nuclear war kati ya Russia na US,huyo Finland atatamani awe upande upi wa shilingi kati ya kuwa member wa NATO au a neutral state?

IFAC said:

Unafahamu hata Mongolia republic waliwahi Omba kuingia kwenye Shirikisho la Urusi?
Je, Wangekuwa wanatawaliwa kikoloni wangeomba?

Tuva republic waliombwa kwa hiari Yao kujiunga na Shirikisho la Urusi?
Je, hawa nnao wanatawaliwa?

Buryat ilishawahi kuwa nchi?

Ngoja turudi kwenye historia
Unafahamu Himaya ya Kimongoli ikitawala eneo kubwa zaidi yaani kutoka Ulaya mpaka Asia?
Sasa Mrithi baada ya Himaya yaa Kimongoli kuanguka ni nani?
Kule Mashariki Mrithi ni China, je huku Magharibi Mrithi ni nani?

Urusi ilijitanua kwa kumpiga Mmongoli na kuangusha himaya yake zilizogawanyika.
Battle of KULIKOVO ndio iliyoamu khatima ya Urusi.

Hivyo kurithi maeneo yote yaliyokuwa chini ya Mongolia pamoja na states zake?

Je, Chechnya ishawahi kuwa nchi?
Ingushetia ishawahi kujitawala yenyewe?
Tuva hawa waliomba?
Dagestani ulishawahi kuwa nchi?
Crimea tatars ambao Wana asili ya Kimongoli walipigwa na Catherine the great na kuwa sehemu ya Urusi?

Sasa hii unaweza ifananisha na mauaji ya kimbari ya Wamarekani dhidi ya Wahindu wekundu?

Halafu hii mada tulishawahi inadili na nikakupiga za uso ila huwa unaorudia kwa namna tofauti.

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Mkuu unapenda kufundisha lakini hujielimishi.
Wachechen wanakumbuka wafalme wao tangu miaka 700 na zaidi (hali halisi kwa muda mrefu kuliko kumbukumbu ya Urusi na utemi wa Moscow!). Tafuta habari za wafalme wa Chechnya walioitwa Khour, Khasi, Chakh na kadhalika, walikuwa wengi tu. Wakoloni Warusi walivamia eneo lao kuanzia karne ya 18 lakini Wachechen walijitetea chini ya viongozi kama Mansur Ushurma na Imam Shamil aliyeshindwa mnamo 1859 pekee.

Tuva kuomba kujiunga na Urusi? Kichekesho hicho. Tuva na pia Mongolia zilikuwa nchi ambako jeshi la Urusi ya Kikomunisti iliwahi kupeleka wakala zake waliotawala chini ya usimamizi wa Warusi (kama Sultani wa Zanzibar chini ya Waingereza - kisheria Zanzibar ilikuwa nchi "huru" iliyokubali mwongozo wa "washauri" Waingereza).
Katika miaka ile tangu 1928 hadi 1953 hakuna kiongozi aliyeweza kufanya chochote bila amri na idhini wa dikteta Stalin. Pamoja na hayo, wakala wa Urusi alikuwa kiongozi wa wakomunisti Salchak Toka; aliwahi kulazimisha watu wake kuficha imani yao katik dini ya Ubuddha akafunga mahekalu na monasteri za watawa. Alijisikia salama zaidi kama nchi yake iliingia ndani ya Urusi....
Sababu za viongozi wa Mongolia (waliopewa nafasi zao pia na jeshi la Urusi) zilikuwa vilevile ila Stalin hakutaka ugomvi na China (maana Mongolia iliwahi kuwa sehemu ya China hadi 1911 - iliweza kujitenga tu baada ya kuingilia kwa Urusi). Hivyo Stalin hakupokea Mongolia wakati ule.

T14 Armata said:

Hakuna General hata mmoja wa NATO kauwawa na Urusi, Urusi ni kubwa jinga haina uwezo huo. Na wala NATO haiwezi weka command yake nchini Ukraine wakati sio mwanachama. Kwanza NATO sio washamba kama nyinyi mnapigana vita kienyeji na sasa mnajiliza mwaka umeisha.

Huo uongo kaambizane kijiweni kwenu. Unaweza taja hata jina moja la General wa NATO aliyeuawa pale Ukraine? Achana na watu 400 uliodai, taja mmoja tu. Na ukitaka kujua ulivyo na uongo wa kitoto, command ya watu 400 inafanya nini, watu 400 wanacommand solar system nzima ama namna gani.

Na Marekani haina mpango wa kupigana na Russia, kwa lipi hasa ililonalo? Kama unataka vita yao si uwaambie Russia ndio waanze. Shamba la gesi na mafuta hilo halimtishi hata South Korea kiuchumi, kijeshi ndio hilo mwaka sasa limeshindwa Ukraine. Na kwa taarifa yako kesho Finland inajiunga NATO sasa jinyongeni kama inakuuma.

Chechens si ni Warusi. Mapigano ya Warusi wenyewe kwa wenyewe ila lawama kwa Marekani? Marekani ina nguvu kumbe hadi ndani ya Urusi inasababisha vita sasa si muipige maana sababu tiyari ipo.

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Na lilivyo pigwa kombora poland hao watu wako wa vikoba walifanya nini zaidi ya kumsema zele asiwachonganishe

T14 Armata said:

Hajaishiwa ndio maisha yake yalivyo kwake, ila kwa mtazamo wa kimagharibi kaishiwa. Niliwahi andika tatizo la rushwa, kutojali na wizi wa mali za umma kwa Urusi ni kubwa na lipo sana jeshini. Unategemea nini kwa nchi ambayo matajiri wake wakubwa karibia wote ni oligarchies, nchi zingine kubwa utasikia huyu kakusanya mitaji kuanzisha kampuni ya magari ya umeme, huyu kaanzisha kampuni ya kuuza vitu online, huyu ana kampuni ya teknolojia ndio matajiri hao. Urusi matajiri wake ni huyu alibinafsishwa kampuni ya mafuta USSR ilipoanguka, huyu alibinafsishwa machimbo ya makaa ya mawe, huyu aluminium.

Urusi on paper ina vifaru vingi sana, doctrine yao ni kuwa na namba kubwa haijalishi performance na serviceability ikoje. Wana vifaru kama T-54 vimetengenezwa miaka ya 1950s kabla Stalin hajafariki na walifanya upgrade unakuta miaka ya 1960s ndio navyo wanahesabu. Wakati Ujerumani ina Marder IFV ambayo ya kwanza ilianza tumika 1971 (vifaru vya T-72 vimeitangulia Marder kutumika). Ujerumani imeshastaafisha Marder inaziona outdated ila ilizihifadhi kwenye maghala ya ndani. Wakati Urusi kwa T-72 ni vifaru havitarajiwi kuondoka, T-64 yenyewe bado inatumika. Au Ujerumani jinsi imeziondoa Gepard SPAAG jeshini inaziona za kizamani ila Ukraine imepewa na zimesaidia. Urusi yeye ndio wale watu wanatumia iPhone 7 hadi leo.

Maghala ya silaha ya Urusi mengine hayatunzwi kama haya na hivi vifaru kwenye makaratasi wanavihesabu, hapa wakienda ni kuongeza explosive reactive armour, electronics na marekebisho kadhaa kisha kuwapa wapiganajiView attachment 2574014View attachment 2574015

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Mr. Machuma Chuma umerudi na maelezo Yako ya mavifaa... Haya Urusi wanavifaa vya Stalin huko.... Waambue manyato walete vya kisasa tuvichome na tknolojia ya zamani ya enzi za Stalin

Lesedi2020 said:

Na lilivyo pigwa kombora poland hao watu wako wa vikoba walifanya nini zaidi ya kumsema zele asiwachonganishe

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Poland ilipigwa kombora na nani?

Champagnee said:

Kuna mtu kapaniki huku kazi ipo.

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Siku zote mtu akishakuwa shoga na akili zinatoka na marinda 🤣🤣🤣

Tuwaangalie tu alafu tuseme hi!

Mtoto wa nzi said:

Mr. Machuma Chuma umerudi na maelezo Yako ya mavifaa... Haya Urusi wanavifaa vya Stalin huko.... Waambue manyato walete vya kisasa tuvichome na tknolojia ya zamani ya enzi za Stalin

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Kama haya mavyuma chakavu yenu mliyoacha mji mkuu

Ha ha haa,
Urusi bana,ni kama imepiga jiwe moja lakini imeua ndege wengi vile!
Ni kitendo cha kujilinda,yaani dimilitalization,de nazidication na de natosification of Ukraine,lakini matokeo yake Sasa kimetokea kua kama kitendo Cha kulipiza kisasi dhidi ya marekani.nitaeleza.
Nayo Finlanda na Sweden ni kama wahalifu wawili waliokua wameketi sehemu pamoja na watu wema bila kujulikana kama hao wawili ni wahalifu.
Polisi walikua katika shughuli zao za kawaida wala hawakua wakiwa jua hao jamaa wawili ni wahalifu,lakini walipopita mbele Yao TU wahalifu wale wakakurupuka na kutoka nduki,ndipo polisi kwa kuona hivyo wakajua Hawa Wana jambo la kujibu,nao wakaanza kuwafatilia.
Iko hivi,Urusi wala haikua na mawazo,shida wala mgogoro wowote na Sweden na Finland.
Kwa mtazamo wangu,mara TU baada ya Urusi kuivamia Ukraine,Ni kama walipangwa hivi nao waombe uanachama wa NATO ili kuichanganya Urusi na kuitoa ktk malengo yake ya SMO.Lakini kwa bahati mbaya waliwakuta wacheza Chess walishausoma mchezo,Putin mara moja akasema Hana tatizo na akina Finland kujiunga na NATO.yeye tatizo lake ni Ukraine.Hapa nadhani mtego ulirukwa kikamilifu.
Sasa basi kosa la sweden na Finland kama wakijiunga na NATO ni moja nalo ni kubwa sana ni kwamba wwshaingizwa kwenye orodha ya nchi ambazo zitashambuliwa kwa nguvu zote na Urusi iwapo vita baina ya NATO na Urusi itatokea.jamani hili sio jambo dogo.Kabla ya kujiunga kama vita baina ya NATO kama ingetokea Urusi wala asingizifanya chochote Finland na nduguye.
Nakumbuka wakati wa mzozo wa Marekani kutaka kuweka mfumo wa rada nchini Romania na mfumo wa kutungua makombora nchini Checks, eti kwa ajili ya kujilinda ulaya na nchi korofi kama Korea Kaskazini na Iran.
Urusi ilizionya nchi m ili hizo kua zimekubali kuwa malengo ya silaha za maangamizi za Urusi kwa kukubali kuwekewa mifumo hiyo?
Maana Urusi ilisema kwa sababu silaha hizo ni kwa ajili ya Urusi,nayo Urusi itaelekeza silaha zake za maangamizi kwa nchi hizo.
Kwa kauli hiyo TU,wananchi wa n chi hizo wakaandamana kuwataka watawala wao waachane kabisa na mpango huo,nao ukasitishwa.

Tuachane na akina Finland.
Kwa Nini nasema alietaka kulinda mipaka yake (Urusi)Sasa ni kama analipiza kisasi.
Lengo la hii SMO ni kulinda mipaka yake,lakini Sasa,ama kwa kujipanga yaani kujua,ama kwa kutokujua huenda Urusi imepata nafasi ya kulipiza kisasi kwa kuanguka kwa USSR.
Kisasi ni kisasi TU,kisasi sio lazima kifanane na ulivyomfanyia mtu.hata kumuaibisha TU ni kisasi wakati yeye alikudhurumu.huu ni mfano TU.

Kila nikiangalian OP hii inavyoenda nawaza pengini ni kitendo Cha kulipiza kisasi,ni kama muvie Fulani hivi la akili kubwa sana.
Nasema hivi kwa sababu.
Nchi nyingi zimeona double standard za west,hata raia wa west wenyewe wameona hivyo.
Kwamba akipigwa Palestine ni sawa lkn akipigwa Ukraine ni haramu.Hapa Urusi kafanikiwa kuichonganisha jumuiya ya west na jumuiya ya kiarabu Dunia nzima.

West kutaka afrika ijitenge na Urusi,waafrika wamegoma ,wamekumbuka visa vya west wakati wa ukoloni.
Hapa Urusi kacheza vizuri.

Marekani alizoea kutumia Dola kama silaha ,Urusi kafanikiwa kuifanya sehemu kubwa ya Dunia kuanza kuiepuka dola.matokea yake Dola inaenda kua Hela ya kawaida TU.

Uwezo wa NATO kijeshi.
Aisee hapa ndio penye utamu.
Unajua hesabu Huwa hazidanganyi.
Na hapa ndio Kuna swali ambalo Pro NATO hua hawataki kabisa kulisikia achilia mbali kulijibu.
iko hivi.
Ukraine imepewa na inaendelea kupewa misaada ya Hali ya juu sana ya silaha,ujasusi wa kivita,fedha,uungwaji mikono,ushauri na Kila aina ya michango kutoka wataalamu wabobevu wa fani zote kutoka nchi zinazoaminika sana hapa duniani kuanzia Wataalamu kutoka NATO,G7,EU,west Europe na Kila aina ya uchwara

Namba zinahoji hivi kama USA na NATO walienda kumpiga Saddam Hussein wa Iraq kwa kuivamia Kuwait,Kama NATO walienda kumpiga Slobodan Milosevc wa Serbia/Yugoslavia kwa kuwapiga Bosnia and Herzegovina na Kosovo,kama walienda kumpiga Muamar Gadafi alipowapiga wapinzani wake Libya.Bahati nzuri au mbaya zote hizo hazikua wanachama wa NATO lkn NATO walienda.
Leo hii matukio yote hayo yanafanana kabisa na tukio la Ukraine.
sasa NATO wanasubiri Nini kuingia vitani dhidi ya Urusi kwa staili ileile waliyotumia kwa nchi nilizozitaja?

Mfano wa kizembe kabisa katika smo hii.
Unaweza kuilinganisha halii hii hivi:

Uwezo wa kufikiri wa raisi wa Urusi peke yake,amewazidi Marais zaidi ya 30 wa west ktk smo hii.

Uwezo wa kufikiri wa Mkuu wa majeshi wa Urusi peke yake, amewazidi wakuu wa majeshi wa nchi zaidi ya 30 za west ktk smo hii.

Uwezo wa kufikiri wa Mkuu wa ujasusi wa Urusi peke yake,amewazidi wakuu wa ujasusi wa nchi za NATO ktk smo hii.

Waziri wa fedha na uchumi wa Urusi peke yake uwezo wa kufikiri,amewazidi mawaziri wa fedha na uchumi wa west ktk smo hii.

Huuni mfano mwepesi TU lkn ukweli ni kwamba. USA na west wake walitaka
Putin atikiswe,
hajatikiaika.

Jeshi lishundwe halijashindwa,

Mambo yavurugike,
majasusi wa Urusi wamedhibiti.

Uchumi wa Urusi uvurugike,umevurugika wao.

Fedha ya Urusi ianguke,lkn imepanda thamani na Dola imeanza kupuuzwa..

Matokeo yake.
NATO kuonekana Haina faida.
USA ushawishi kuisha,
Dola kupoteza umaarufu,
Uchumi wa west kuanguka,
Na west kua nchi zisikokua na maana.
Balance of power kuja
Na kuibuka kwa Brics kidunia yaani nchi nyingi kujiunga.
Uonevu kuisha.

Nchi kuheshimiana,hakuna kulazimishana mambo yasiyofaa.

Marekani hatakaa avamie nchi yoyote tena kwani ataonekana alichokipinga kwa Urusi ni kipi na anachokifanya ni kipi.

Urusi kutaka kulinda mipaka yake imejikuta inaikomboa Dunia.

Bome-e said:

Hukunisoma niliposema jirani ambaye hana mgogoro na Russia!Hiyo line ungeielewa nadhani usingecomment hivyo!
Finland na Sweden hawana conflict na Russia!
Nukes hana Russia pekee,ila ikitokea nuclear war,majirani wa Russia ambao ni member wa NATO watashughulikiwa kwanza!
Kwenye nuclear war,hakuna mshindi,kila upande utaumia!
Fikiri kama inatokea nuclear war kati ya Russia na US,huyo Finland atatamani awe upande upi wa shilingi kati ya kuwa member wa NATO au a neutral state?

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Basi nitajie nchi gani jirani ya Russia iliyo mwanachama wa NATO imevamiwa. Nakutajia Georgia na Ukraine ambazo ni majirani wa Russia tena wanachama wa zamani wa Soviet block waliovamiwa na Russia.

Finland anatamani awe upande salama na ndiyo anajiunga kesho. Urusi kama inataka itumie nuclear itumie tuone kama itabaki. Vitisho vya nukes ndio vinafanya Finland yenye nguvu in conventional warfare iongeze guarantee ya ulinzi kwa kujiunga kwa wenye nukes. Otherwise, Finland single handedly inaimudu Urusi ukitoa nyuklia

Leo Huko Ujerumani Migahawa Inatoa Risiti Mwishoni Kukiwa na Ujumbe Unaosema
Ushirikiano Na Urusi upo Imara
Wamarekani Nendeni Mkafagie milango ya nyumbazenu Kisha Muondoke Mrudi Kwenu
NATO IONDOKE


The message at the bottom of the receipt from the German restaurant: "The bond with Russia is strong! Americans, go sweep your doorstep, take your country back and leave! NATO GONE!"

T14 Armata said:

Basi nitajie nchi gani jirani ya Russia iliyo mwanachama wa NATO imevamiwa. Nakutajia Georgia na Ukraine ambazo ni majirani wa Russia tena wanachama wa zamani wa Soviet block waliovamiwa na Russia.

Finland anatamani awe upande salama na ndiyo anajiunga kesho. Urusi kama inataka itumie nuclear itumie tuone kama itabaki. Vitisho vya nukes ndio vinafanya Finland yenye nguvu in conventional warfare iongeze guarantee ya ulinzi kwa kujiunga kwa wenye nukes. Otherwise, Finland single handedly inaimudu Urusi ukitoa nyuklia

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Umetumia vigezo gani kusema Finland anaimudu Urusi kivita bila nukes?
Finland unasema Yuko salama akiwa member wa NATO!Lakini Urusi hana mpango na Finland kwasababu hawana mgogoro!Hoja hapa ikitokea escalation ya hii SMO let's say,Unadhani Russia atakubali majirani wawe ground ya NATO forces kumshambulia?Si ataanza na Nukes Kwa majirani kwanza?
Finland anajiunga NATO muda mbaya sana!Unadhani kwanini katika sheria za NATO,huwezi kupewa uanachama ukiwa vitani au ukiwa na migogoro inayoweza kupelekea vita?Kuna sababu ya msingi hapo!Kwanini Huo mchakato wa Finland asingefanyiwa Ukraine kama Zele alivyoomba na kukataliwa?
Russia hawezi vamia nchi ya NATO,ndivyo ambavyo NATO hawawezi kumvamia Russia au kuweka no fly zone huko Ukraine!
Lakini hapa nasema Incase of escalation,Unadhani Finland Yuko Salama zaidi?
Kwanini Finland na Sweden hawakujiunga NATO pale Urusi alipovamia Georgia na Crimea?Why now?They are being played by US!

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Mkuu bado hujapata mpya au hujui kama tuko kuzazi kipya

Bakhmut bado pagumu Sana kwa wavamizi...

lee van cliff said:

Pole bro.

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As Wagner chief claims "legal" control of Bakhmut - what can we determine from night-time video?​

Jack Taylor, Sky News forensic journalist

Earlier we reported that Russia's paramilitary Wagner Group has claimed to hold "legal" control over the city of Bakhmut.

The claims were made in videos posted by Yevgeny Prigozhin, the group's leader, one of which shows soldiers raising Russian flags on the ruins of a building.

Ukraine has reacted by dismissing the claims and a spokesperson for the military said that Wagner fighters had "raised the flag over some kind of toilet".

Sky News has verified that part of the video was filmed by the Bakhmut City Council building. Distinctive markings on the building seen can be matched to other verified videos filmed by soldiers in the area.


Other surrounding buildings, rubble and trees can be matched to existing verified videos and satellite imagery.


This is a screenshot from part of the video that shows fighters raising flags on rubble that is claimed to be the ruins of the city council building.

This video, posted today and filmed in the day time, shows what is left of the building and the flags themselves.

This location is currently on the assessed frontline in Bakhmut, according to data from the Institute for the Study of War.

Ukrainian forces still control a large portion of the embattled city and fighting has continued for months.


This isn't the first time that the Wagner Group has claimed successes in Bakhmut.
On 3 March, Yevgeny Prigozhin claimed that they had "practically encircled" the city and has continually made similar claims.

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lee van cliff said:

Ha ha haa,
Urusi bana,ni kama imepiga jiwe moja lakini imeua ndege wengi vile!
Ni kitendo cha kujilinda,yaani dimilitalization,de nazidication na de natosification of Ukraine,lakini matokeo yake Sasa kimetokea kua kama kitendo Cha kulipiza kisasi dhidi ya marekani.nitaeleza.
Nayo Finlanda na Sweden ni kama wahalifu wawili waliokua wameketi sehemu pamoja na watu wema bila kujulikana kama hao wawili ni wahalifu.
Polisi walikua katika shughuli zao za kawaida wala hawakua wakiwa jua hao jamaa wawili ni wahalifu,lakini walipopita mbele Yao TU wahalifu wale wakakurupuka na kutoka nduki,ndipo polisi kwa kuona hivyo wakajua Hawa Wana jambo la kujibu,nao wakaanza kuwafatilia.
Iko hivi,Urusi wala haikua na mawazo,shida wala mgogoro wowote na Sweden na Finland.
Kwa mtazamo wangu,mara TU baada ya Urusi kuivamia Ukraine,Ni kama walipangwa hivi nao waombe uanachama wa NATO ili kuichanganya Urusi na kuitoa ktk malengo yake ya SMO.Lakini kwa bahati mbaya waliwakuta wacheza Chess walishausoma mchezo,Putin mara moja akasema Hana tatizo na akina Finland kujiunga na NATO.yeye tatizo lake ni Ukraine.Hapa nadhani mtego ulirukwa kikamilifu.
Sasa basi kosa la sweden na Finland kama wakijiunga na NATO ni moja nalo ni kubwa sana ni kwamba wwshaingizwa kwenye orodha ya nchi ambazo zitashambuliwa kwa nguvu zote na Urusi iwapo vita baina ya NATO na Urusi itatokea.jamani hili sio jambo dogo.Kabla ya kujiunga kama vita baina ya NATO kama ingetokea Urusi wala asingizifanya chochote Finland na nduguye.
Nakumbuka wakati wa mzozo wa Marekani kutaka kuweka mfumo wa rada nchini Romania na mfumo wa kutungua makombora nchini Checks, eti kwa ajili ya kujilinda ulaya na nchi korofi kama Korea Kaskazini na Iran.
Urusi ilizionya nchi m ili hizo kua zimekubali kuwa malengo ya silaha za maangamizi za Urusi kwa kukubali kuwekewa mifumo hiyo?
Maana Urusi ilisema kwa sababu silaha hizo ni kwa ajili ya Urusi,nayo Urusi itaelekeza silaha zake za maangamizi kwa nchi hizo.
Kwa kauli hiyo TU,wananchi wa n chi hizo wakaandamana kuwataka watawala wao waachane kabisa na mpango huo,nao ukasitishwa.

Tuachane na akina Finland.
Kwa Nini nasema alietaka kulinda mupaka yake (Urusi)Sasa ni kama analipiza kisasi.
Lengo la hii SMO ni kulinda mupaka yake,lakini Sasa,ama kwa kujipanga yaani kujua,ama kwa kutikujua huenda Urusi imepata nafasi ya kulipiza kisasi kwa kuanguka kwa USSR.
Kiksasi ni kisasi TU,kisasi sio lazima kifanane na ulivyomfanyia mtu.hata kumuaibisha TU ni kisasi wakati yeye alikudhurumu.huu ni mfano TU.

Kila nukiangalian OP hii inavyoenda nawaza pengini ni kitendo Cha kulipiza kisasi,ni kama muvie Fulani hivi la akili kubwa sana.
Nasa hivi kwa sababu.
Nchi nyingi zimeona double standard za west,hata raia wa west wenyewe wameona hivyo.
Kwamba akipigwa Palestine ni sawa lkn akipigwa Ukraine ni haramu.Hapa Urusi kafanukiwa kuichonganisha jumuiya ya west na jumuiya ya kiarabu Dunia nzima.

West kutaka afrika iitenge Urusi,waafrika wamegoma ,wamekumbuka visa vya west wakati wa ukoloni.
Hapa Urusi kacheza vizuri.

Marekani alizoea kutumia Dola kama silaha ,Urusi kafanikiwa kuifanya sehemu kubwa ya Dunia kuanza kuiepuka dola.matokea yake Dola inaenda kua Hela ya kawaida TU.

Uwezo wa NATO kijeshi.
Aisee hapa ndio penye utamu.
Unajua hesabu Huwa hazidanganyi.
Na hapa ndio Kuna swali ambalo Pro NATO hua hawataki kabisa kulisikia achilia mbali kulijibu.iko hivi.
Ukraine imepewa na inaendelea kupewa misaada ya Hali ya juu sana ya silaha,ujasusi wa kivita,fedha,uungwaji mikono,ushauri na Kila aina ya michango kutoka wataalqmu wabobevu wa fani zote kutoka nchi zinazoaminika sana hapa duniani kuanzia Wataalamu kutoka NATO,G7,EU,west Europe na Kila aina ya uchwara

Namba zinahoji hivi kama USA na NATO walienda kumpiga Saddam Hussein wa Iraq kwa kuivamia Kuwait,Kama NATO walienda kumpiga Sloboda wa Serbia Yugoslavia kwa kuwapiga Bosnia and Herzegovina na Kosovo,kama walienda kumpiga Muamar Gadafi alipowapiga wapinzani wake Libya.Bahati nzuri au mbaya zote hizo hazikua wanachama wa NATO lkn NATO walienda.Leo hii matukio yote hayo yanafanana kabisa na tukio la Ukraine.sasa NATO wanasubiri Nini kuingia vitani dhidi ya Urusi kwa staili ileile waliyotumia kwa nchi nilizozitaja?

Mfano wa kizembe kabisa katika smo hii.
Unaweza kuilinganisha halii hii hivi:

Uwezo wa kufikiri wa raisi wa Urusi,amewazidi Marais zaidi ya 30 wa west ktk smo hii.

Uwezo wa kufikiri wa Mkuu wa majeshi wa Urusi amewazidi wakuu wa majeshi wa nchi zaidi ya 30 ktk smo hii.

Uwezo wa kufikiri wa Mkuu wa ujasusi wa Urusi,amewazidi wakuu wa ujasusi wa nchi za NATO ktk smo hii.

Waziri wa fedha na uchumi wa Urusi wa kufikiri,amewazidi mawaziri wa fedha na uchumi wa west ktk smo hii.

Huuni mfano mwepesi TU lkn ukweli ni kwamba. USA na west wake walitaka
Putin atikiswe,hajatikiaika.
Jeshi lishundwe halijashindwa,
Mambo yavurugike,majasusi wa Urusi wamedhibiti.
Uchumi wa Urusi uvurugike,umevurugika wao.
Fedha ya Urusi ianguke,lkn imepanda thamani na Dola imeanza kupuuzwa..

Matokeo yake.
NATO kuonekana Haina faida.
USA ushawishi kuisha,
Dola kupoteza umaarufu,
Uchumi wa west kuanguka,
Na west kua nchi zisikokua na maana.
Balance of power kuja
Na kuibuka kwa Brics kidunia yaani nchi nyingi kujiunga.
Uonevu kuisha.
Marekani hatakaa avamie nchi yoyote tena kwani ataonekana alichokipongavkaa Urusi ni kipi na anachokifanya ni kipi.

Urusi kutaka kulinda mupaka yake imejikuta inaikimboa Dunia.

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Proved said:

Bakhmut bado pagumu Sana kwa wavamizi...

As Wagner chief claims "legal" control of Bakhmut - what can we determine from night-time video?​

Jack Taylor, Sky News forensic journalist

Earlier we reported that Russia's paramilitary Wagner Group has claimed to hold "legal" control over the city of Bakhmut.

The claims were made in videos posted by Yevgeny Prigozhin, the group's leader, one of which shows soldiers raising Russian flags on the ruins of a building.

Ukraine has reacted by dismissing the claims and a spokesperson for the military said that Wagner fighters had "raised the flag over some kind of toilet".

Sky News has verified that part of the video was filmed by the Bakhmut City Council building. Distinctive markings on the building seen can be matched to other verified videos filmed by soldiers in the area.


Other surrounding buildings, rubble and trees can be matched to existing verified videos and satellite imagery.


This is a screenshot from part of the video that shows fighters raising flags on rubble that is claimed to be the ruins of the city council building.

This video, posted today and filmed in the day time, shows what is left of the building and the flags themselves.

This location is currently on the assessed frontline in Bakhmut, according to data from the Institute for the Study of War.

Ukrainian forces still control a large portion of the embattled city and fighting has continued for months.


This isn't the first time that the Wagner Group has claimed successes in Bakhmut.
On 3 March, Yevgeny Prigozhin claimed that they had "practically encircled" the city and has continually made similar claims.

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