Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Mkuu, angalau watu hao (ambao hali halisi walikuwa Warusi wapinzani wa Putin waliojiandaa ndani ya Ukraine) waliweza kuingia Urusi na kufanya mambo yao kwa saa 24 hivi; ambayo ni dalili kwamba ulinzi wa mpakani ulikuwa mdhaifu.
Je Putin anakosa watu?
ww umejuaje kama wale ni Russian Oppositions...na sio Ukrenians??...aisee kuna watu sijui mko vp...hz si ni mbinu za CIA duniani kote huwa anafanya hv...???...tatizo hapo Russia..hawataweza ...Russia ni kisiki kwa WEST....watadhalilika sana mwaka huu..!!

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ww umejuaje kama wale ni Russian Oppositions...na sio Ukrenians??...aisee kuna watu sijui mko vp...hz si ni mbinu za CIA duniani kote huwa anafanya hv...???...tatizo hapo Russia..hawataweza ...Russia ni kisiki kwa WEST....watadhalilika sana mwaka huu..!!

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we nae unashindana na hawa wabwia unga we wakaushie sisi pro russia hatuongei ni kuwa nyonga kimya kimya huku yunabeba ardhi mdogo mdogo mpaka kiev yote wala usibishane nae hawa jamaa huwawezi kwa uongo wamekubuhu aissee
 
Hapo lazima wajambe

Hasa wakikumbuka kilicho wahi kulikumba jeshi la Merikani wakati wa vita ya 1951-53/nchini Korea kaskazini - walinyukwa vilivyo China ilipo ingilia kati kuiokoa Korea Kaskazini - baadae General McCathy kwa kuona aibu kushindwa na Uchina akamuomba Rais Truman apige miji ya Uchina kwa mabomu ya Nuclear lakini Truman kamkatalia na kumtimua kazi maaa alimuona hana busara uhamuzi wake wa kipumbavu ungeweza kusababisha WW3.
 
ww umejuaje kama wale ni Russian Oppositions...na sio Ukrenians??...aisee kuna watu sijui mko vp...hz si ni mbinu za CIA duniani kote huwa anafanya hv...???...tatizo hapo Russia..hawataweza ...Russia ni kisiki kwa WEST....watadhalilika sana mwaka huu..!!

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Mkuu hakuna cha Russian opposition wala nini sijui hicho ni kikundi cha kigaidi kilicho undwa na CIA na Ukraine Intel agency kwa lengo la kutaka kuhadaa Dunia kwamba kumbe ndani ya Urusi wapo Warusi walo radhi kushika silaha na kupambana na utawala wa Putin ambaye anakuwa supported karibu na asili mia 98% ya Warusi, Biden,je, anaye fadhili vikundi hivi vya kigaidi nchini Ukraine ni raia wangapi wana support Urais/Uongozi wake wa masula ya foreign policy zake na Domestic, hardly 30% - badala ya ku- deal na masuala yenye msingi ndani ya Taifa lake badala yake anakwenda kuunda na ku-support financially naku-arms vikundi vya kigaidi kwa lengo la kuvipenyeza nchini Urusi anataka ya Syria yajirudie nchi Russia, baada ya kuona mipango yao ya kuitumia Ukraine kupigana a proxy war on USA behalf, sasa mpango huo unaelekea kushindwa ndio maana hivi sasa wamekuja na plan "B" ya ku-recruit magaidi wamesahau kabisa jinsi Urusi Ilivyo yafyekelea mbali magaidi nchini Syria(ISIS na Daesh) kama Urusi hisingeiingilia kati Assad angeangushwa na kuuwawa kama Ghadaffi.

Tatizo kubwa hapa kuna baadhi ya wana JF members ambao ni wabishi huwa na jaribu mara kwa mara kuwapatia somo kila siku lakini wanaweka pamba masikioni.

Ndio maana awakumbusheni tena kwamba US/NATO hawana ubavu wa kumu- confront Putin ana kwa ana na USA and like mind wenzake hilo wanalijua sana, lakini basi tu wakale walisema "sikio la kufa halisikii DAWA".
 
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‘We’ve Militarized Ukraine!’ - Furious Wagner Chief on How Putin’s ‘Special Operation’ Has Backfired

Yevgeny Prigozhin covered a lot of topics in his most recent interview including how he believes ‘Russia needs to live in the image of North Korea for a certain number of years.’

Read more on our website.



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Kwahyo na wewe umekuwa chizi?
 
Mbona hujajibu kwanza swali langu kuhusu leferendum inayotarajiwa kufanyika huko Belgorod.., maana jamaa wanataka kuwa sehemu ya ukraine

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Hamna nchi inayoitwa Ukraine
Hujaona ramani ya jana
Hiyo ndio mipango mipya kaa kwa kutulia tukimaliza hapa tunaenda Alaska
 
Russian naval ship repels Ukrainian drone attack in Bosporus Strait waters — top brass.

"All of the enemy’s boats were destroyed from the Russian naval ship’s standard armaments 140 km northeast of the Bosporus Strait," Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov said, The crew of the Russian naval ship Ivan Khurs repelled an attack by Ukrainian surface drones in the Bosporus Strait waters within Turkey’s exclusive economic zone, Defense Ministry Spokesman Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov reported on Wednesday.

"After the terror attack on the Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 gas pipelines on September 26, 2022, the Russian Armed Forces are carrying out measures to protect such facilities. And it is not without reason. At 5:30 today, Ukrainian armed formations made an unsuccessful attempt with three fast-speed unmanned boats to attack the Black Sea Fleet’s ship Ivan Khurs fulfilling the objectives of providing for the safe operation of the Turkish Steam and Blue Stream gas pipelines in the exclusive economic zone of the Turkish Republic," the spokesman said.

"All of the enemy’s boats were destroyed from the Russian naval ship’s standard armaments 140 km northeast of the Bosporus Strait," the general said, adding that the Ivan Khurs continued accomplishing assigned missions
 
Kichwa cha habari ya ajabu:

Prigozhin says war in Ukraine has backfired, warns of Russian revolution​

RIGA, Latvia — Fresh off his claim of victory in capturing the Ukrainian city of Bakhmut, Russian mercenary boss Yevgeniy Prigozhin warned that Moscow’s brutal war could plunge Russia into turmoil similar to the 1917 revolution unless its detached, wealthy elite become more directly committed to the conflict.

In a lengthy interview with Konstantin Dolgov, a political operative and pro-war blogger, Prigozhin, the founder and leader of the Wagner mercenary group, also asserted that the war had backfired spectacularly by failing to “demilitarize” Ukraine, one of President Vladimir Putin’s stated aims of the invasion. He also called for totalitarian policies going forward.

“We are in a situation where we can simply lose Russia,” Prigozhin said, using an expletive to hammer his point. “We must introduce martial law. We unfortunately … must announce new waves of mobilization; we must put everyone who is capable to work on increasing the production of ammunition,” he said. “Russia needs to live like North Korea for a few years, so to say, close the borders … and work hard.”

Citing public anger at the lavish lifestyles of Russia’s rich and powerful, Prigozhin warned their homes could be stormed by people with “pitchforks.” He singled out Ksenia Shoigu, the daughter of Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, who was spotted vacationing in Dubai with her fiancé, Alexei Stolyarov, a fitness blogger.

“The children of the elite shut their traps at best, and some allow themselves a public, fat, carefree life,” Prigozhin said in the interview, which was recorded on video and published Wednesday. “This division might end as in 1917, with a revolution — when first the soldiers rise up, and then their loved ones follow.”

Prigozhin, who earned a fortune and the nickname “Putin’s chef” off government catering contracts, seized a central role in the war in Ukraine, first by deploying his mercenaries on the front lines and later by recruiting heavily from prisons to bolster Moscow’s depleted forces with convicts desperate for pardons. In the interview, Prigozhin said that he was never a chef and doesn’t know how to cook, suggesting that journalists should’ve called him “Putin’s butcher” instead.

Wagner fighters led the bloody, months-long onslaught in Bakhmut, which culminated this week in Putin declaring the city to be fully under Russian control. It was Putin’s first significant territorial victory since last summer. Ukraine’s military insists it is still fighting for the city but admits being pushed to its outskirts.

But while Prigozhin’s role in Bakhmut has given him a major platform, he has been engaged in a nasty running feud with Shoigu and other commanders of the Russia’s regular military, repeatedly accusing them of denying Wagner forces needed ammunition. He also repeatedly threatened to withdraw from Bakhmut.

Despite war, Ukraine allows Russian oil and gas to cross its territory

In the interview with Dolgov, Prigozhin professed to be guided by love for the Russian motherland and loyalty to Putin. But he also delivered blistering criticism of the war, which the Kremlin refers to as a “special military operation,” describing it as having abjectly failed both militarily and politically.

Instead of demilitarization, he said, the invasion turned “Ukraine’s army into one of the most powerful in the world” and Ukrainians into “a nation known to the entire world.”

“If they, figuratively speaking, had 500 tanks at the beginning of the special operation, now they have 5,000,” he said. “If they had 20,000 fighters who knew how to fight, now they have 400,000. How did we ‘demilitarize’ it? Now it turns out that we militarized it — hell knows how.”

Prigozhin this week once again said that his fighters would leave Bakhmut, potentially in an effort to leave Shoigu and the Russian military responsible for holding the city, which Kyiv insists it will retake.

In the interview, he had special venom for the children of the elite and for the many wealthy Russians who have tried to avoid letting their lives be disrupted by the war. Prigozhin, however, did not comment on the fact that this effort to shield Russians has been a central strategy of Putin’s since the invasion started.

Prigozhin said that down the line, the individual grief of “tens of thousands of relatives” of killed soldiers might reach a boiling point, and the Russian government will have to contend with a broader outburst of anger and discontent, exacerbated by the economic disparity.
Prigozhin in Moscow in April. (AP)

“My advice to the Russian elites — get your lads, send them to war, and when you go to the funeral, when you start burying them, people will say that now everything is fair,” Prigozhin said in the interview.

Prigozhin’s rants in many ways undermine the official Moscow line and almost certainly would result in harsh punishment for anyone else. The country has effectively outlawed any criticism of the military, the war and its leaders, and many ordinary citizens have been prosecuted and sentenced to prison for such remarks.

Anti-Putin militias mount cross-border incursion in western Russia

While regular Russian military officials keep a lid on the number of casualties in Ukraine, Prigozhin said that 20,000 Wagner fighters had died in the battle for Bakhmut. Even if an undercount, the figure eclipses the last official number given by Moscow in September, when Shoigu claimed that 5,937 soldiers had died.

Military experts attribute such a high death toll among Wagner fighters to its commanders’ brutal tactics of sending waves of poorly trained convicts to exhaust Ukrainians, at times threatening the prisoners with death if they retreat.

Private military companies are technically illegal in Russia, but Prigozhin has been allowed to operate with impunity, deploying his fighters to countries in the Middle East and Africa, and then last year to Ukraine, where some have been accused of atrocities. The group is especially active in Africa, where Wagner mercenaries often leave a bloody trail. The United Nations called for an independent investigation into Wagner’s activities in Mali, where its soldiers are suspected of war crimes and crimes against humanity, following a slew of reports about horrific executions, torture, rape and abductions.

Prigozhin’s public attacks against Shoigu and the chief of the General Staff, Valery Gerasimov, and the Wagner chief’s evident desire to become the face of the war have poisoned his relationship with the military brass and the Kremlin administration. Prigozhin has complained that he is now rarely mentioned on state-controlled television.

Putin, who is known for pitting one fief against another to ensure a tighter grip on power, even set up a meeting in hopes of defusing the tension, but a serious rift remains between the factions of Russia’s forces, with both the Defense Ministry and Prigozhin disgruntled over sharing the spotlight for Bakhmut.

While Prigozhin has sought to cultivate an image of himself as a fighter, appearing in full battle gear on the front lines in countless videos, he falls squarely among the Putin cronies who have become billionaires off their government connections and contracts. Like his fighters, however, Prigozhin is also an ex-convict: He was sentenced to 13 years in prison for robbery and other crimes, and spent most of the 1980s in jail.

So far, Prigozhin remains unmatched in publicity, succeeding where some regular commanders have stumbled, in some cases in humiliating fashion.

Military experts, for example, pointed to a staged clip of Gen. Col. Alexander Lapin that emerged Tuesday, showing him commanding a small group of troops to fight off a mysterious two-day incursion in the Belgorod region, a staging area for Russian forces that borders Ukraine.

The clip, in which Lapin is seen walking alongside a convoy of armored vehicles shouting, “Go forward, guys! For the motherland,” was ridiculed by some Russian pro-war bloggers as “embarrassing” and “laughable.” Local officials, meanwhile, fought off questions from civilians alarmed about a breach in the border.

“I have even more questions for the Defense Ministry than you have,” Belgorod Gov. Vyacheslav Gladkov said in a live question-and-answer session with local residents after militias made up of Russians fighting on Ukraine’s side in the war stormed a checkpoint in Grayvoron district and infiltrated nearby villages.

Gladkov said Tuesday that one woman died while being evacuated during the attack, and eight others were injured. Russian officials claimed to repel the attacks, while the militias responsible said they were still actively fighting inside Russian territory.

“We are living in a very difficult period,” Gladkov said in a separate statement. “But I am proud that the residents of the Belgorod region are courageous people; they didn’t just get used to it but learned to act quickly.”

Russia controls Bakhmut, for now, but holding it will be difficult

The disruptions in Belgorod continued Wednesday, with multiple drones targeting a gas pipeline and residential buildings, Gladkov said.

Meanwhile, the Russian-built Crimean Bridge, Putin’s prized project connecting mainland Russia with the illegally annexed Crimean peninsula, was temporarily shut Wednesday due to what local officials called “exercises.” It was unclear what exercise took place around the bridge, which carries heavy civilian traffic. Local media outlets posted videos showing plumes of white smoke over the span.

The bridge was hit by an explosion last year in an attack Moscow said was orchestrated by Ukrainian forces. Ukraine has never officially claimed responsibility.

Incidents such as the incursion in Belgorod dominate the news in border regions, undermining Putin’s goal of trying to lead the war while making it invisible to the general public.

In his interview, Prigozhin said there was an “optimistic scenario” for Russia’s war: Western support for Ukraine wears out, and China brokers a peace deal, allowing Russia to keep occupied Ukrainian lands.

“I don’t have much faith in the optimistic scenario,” he said, adding that instead Ukraine could partially succeed in a highly anticipated counteroffensive, pushing Russian troops closer to the borders that existed before hostilities began in 2014. They could also attack Crimea and continue pressing on in the east, armed with more Western weapons, he said.

“Most likely this scenario will not be good for us,” Prigozhin said. “So we need to prepare for a difficult war.”
Na wewe una amini maigizo ya Prigozhin anaye tumiwa na jeshi la Urusi kuwachota akili US/NATO na jeshi la Ukraine ili waingie kumi na nane za jeshi la Russia - mwisho mwa siku watajikuta wanafyekelewa mbali kama jeshi la Hitler.
 
Na wewe una amini maigizo ya Prigozhin anaye tumiwa na jeshi la Urusi kuwachota akili US/NATO na jeshi la Ukraine ili waingie kumi na nane za jeshi la Russia - mwisho mwa siku watajikuta wanafyekelewa mbali kama jeshi la Hitler.
Mkuu ushauri wangu ni: Usiamini habari, umwamini Mungu. Hanari si jambo la kuamini, ni jambo la kutafakari.
Naona ni vema kuelewa kwa nini mtu kama Prigo (mwenye uhuru mkubwa wa kusema hadi sasa) anatoa maonyo makali kuhusu hali ya Urusi.
 
Mkuu ushauri wangu ni: Usiamini habari, umwamini Mungu. Hanari si jambo la kuamini, ni jambo la kutafakari.
Naona ni vema kuelewa kwa nini mtu kama Prigo (mwenye uhuru mkubwa wa kusema hadi sasa) anatoa maonyo makali kuhusu hali ya Urusi.
Sasa mpaka hizi habari za kuseme sijui Waziri wa Ulinzi wa Urusi aliaonekana Dubai ana vijari na Girl friend wake - who can take such highly questionable source seriously, after all the whole stuff is totally incoherent.
 
Russian naval ship repels Ukrainian drone attack in Bosporus Strait waters — top brass.

"All of the enemy’s boats were destroyed from the Russian naval ship’s standard armaments 140 km northeast of the Bosporus Strait," Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov said, The crew of the Russian naval ship Ivan Khurs repelled an attack by Ukrainian surface drones in the Bosporus Strait waters within Turkey’s exclusive economic zone, Defense Ministry Spokesman Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov reported on Wednesday.

"After the terror attack on the Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 gas pipelines on September 26, 2022, the Russian Armed Forces are carrying out measures to protect such facilities. And it is not without reason. At 5:30 today, Ukrainian armed formations made an unsuccessful attempt with three fast-speed unmanned boats to attack the Black Sea Fleet’s ship Ivan Khurs fulfilling the objectives of providing for the safe operation of the Turkish Steam and Blue Stream gas pipelines in the exclusive economic zone of the Turkish Republic," the spokesman said.

"All of the enemy’s boats were destroyed from the Russian naval ship’s standard armaments 140 km northeast of the Bosporus Strait," the general said, adding that the Ivan Khurs continued accomplishing assigned missions
Lengo hasa la Ukraine ni kuja kujaribu kutumia storm shadow kushambulia Navy ya Urusi hapo baadae au hata anti ship missiles za US kama jeshi la Ukraine wanazo - hilo ndilo lengo kuu la mabeberu waki shirikiana na Ukraine, wanataka kuzamisha Navy yote ya Urusi ikiwezekana wana akili za ajabu sana!!

Mambo yanavyo onekana mgogoro huu unaweza kusababisha WW3 by accident or by design.

Zelensky is so naïve doesn't seem to realise that nuclear war is mostly likely.
 
Check drones zilivyoshushwa[emoji1787]



[emoji779]️On the night of May 25, the Russians attacked Ukraine from the north and south with Iranian-made Shahed-136/131 drones – 36 of them were shot down by Ukrainian Air Defence.

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Kuna jamaa anaitwa umshana tabia zake zinafanana na MK254
Ngoja niendelee kuunganisha vitu nitawaeleza zaidi.
Si unajua tabia za wakenya......

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Sasa mpaka hizi habari za kuseme sijui Waziri wa Ulinzi wa Urusi aliaonekana Dubai ana vijari na Girl friend wake - who can take such highly questionable source seriously, after all the whole stuff is totally incoherent.
waziri wa Urusi - nimeleta hapa habari kwamba mtu kama Prigo anajadili waziwazi hofu ya mapinduzi nchini Urusi. Na sababu zake. Naelewa kabisa kwamba marafiki wa Putin hawapendi kusikia maoni hayo wala hawapendi kuyajadili
 
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