Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

[Bukyanagandi]

Leo viongozi wa Africa wapo Kiev kwenye peace mission.

Lakini wanazungushwa kuonana na Zelensky

Zelensky anataka kufanya nao kikao kupitia video conference...

Tangu Uganda nafikiri na Kenya wamtolee nje hana hamu tena na Continet la Afrika, au anaogopa kuambukizwa na ugonjwa wa COVID.

 

[matunduizi]

Mkuu najua kwamba wengi wanaamini unachosema - ila hakuna msingi. tafadhali nionyeshe mapatano au mkataba unaodai ulikuwepo. hakuna.
Unachoweza kuonyesha ni mawazo ya wanasiasa kadhaa walioona NATO isipokee nchi ambazo zilikuwa nusu koloni za Urusi kama vile Poland, Baltiki na kadhalika.
Lakini hakuna mapatano wala mkataba.
Kinyume kuna mkataba rasmi wa Helsiniki ambako USSR ilikubali kila nchi ya Ulaya ina haki ya kushirikiana na nchi nyingine.
Kuna pia mkataba wa Minsk ambako Urusi ilitambua mipaka ya Ukraine (pamoja na Donbass na Krimea) na kuahidi itatetea mipaka hiyo.
Ni nani sasa aliyevunja mkataba?

Halafu unaamini kuna sababu gani kwamba nchi za Ulaya zimeacha kushirikiana na Urusi kiuchumi tangu uvamizi za 2014 na 2022???? Ingawa Urusi ilikuwa chanzo cha nishati nafuu na soko kwa makampuni yao??

Kwa nini nchi za Baltiki, Poland, Chek na Slovakia waliombaomba wapokelewe NATO baada ya kuwa chini ya Urusi kwa miaka mingi?? (na hakuna aliyewalazimisha hata kidogo kuleta maombi ya kujiunga na NATO!)

Kwa ufupi unamaanisha ukraine ni shamba darasa.😁😁

 

[jameshyela]

"Marekani badala ya kuzungumza na Urusi, imechagua kusambaza vifaa vya kijeshi kwa Ukraine, tutaviteketeza vyote - tuone kitakachofuata," - Putin.

 

[Kalicho]

Mkuu mbona hili liko wazi na sehem ya mkataba iliwekwa hapa, Kati ya State department na Russian nahis ilikua 1992, term moja wapo ilikua there will be no expernsion of NATO kwenda East of German. .sema nimesahau nilihifadh wapi ile sehem ya document lakin kuna wadau waliiweka humu.

There you are brother!!

 

[Kalicho]

A very good question - lengo la USA hata kufikia hatua ya kuonga former Soviet Union Republics ni kutaka kutishia Urusi kwamba hivi sasa imezungukwa kila upande wa mipaka yake na NATO members hivyo itakuwa rahisi kuishambulia Urusi kwa kuishitukiza au kutumia airbase za Eastern Europe ku launch a massive air attack au hata kujenga infrastructure za kuhifadhi short range tactical nuclear missiles - bottom line is/was: to design ways and means of destroying Russia in totality - sasa matokeo ya vita ya Ukraine kutawafanya NATO/USA wa think again kwamba Russia ni mti wa mpingo na si lelemama.

Nashukuru Sana kwa kujazia nyama jibu nililompa Ndugu yetu Pro NATO..!!

Unajua hakuna anaeshabikia vita pale Ukraine,but Russia hakuwa na options kabisa was no way ilikuwa lazima apgane dhidi ya NATO kulinda usalama wake

 

[Google chrome]

Jeshi la anga la Ukraine ladungua makombora 12;makombora 6 chapa khizhals na mengine 6 chapa kalibr ya Kirusi!
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Missile strike on 16 June: air defence shot down 6 Kinzhals and 6 Kalibr missiles

According to preliminary information, Ukraine's air defence destroyed 12 missiles during the Russian attack in Ukraine on 16 June.

www.pravda.com.ua

Tatizo sio kudungua Kinzhal, tatizo linakuja kwenye wreckages ambazo tunaambiwa ni za Kinzhal.

 

[1954]

Kwa hiyo wewe unasemaje?!?!

 

[GwaB]

"Marekani badala ya kuzungumza na Urusi, imechagua kusambaza vifaa vya kijeshi kwa Ukraine, tutaviteketeza vyote - tuone kitakachofuata," - Putin.

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Vifaa vingi vinaibiwa Poland.... Kama hili tukio la hivi karibuni Wegliniec-Poland. Wapolo walivunja mabehewa yenye silaha na kwenda kuficha kwenye kidimbwi cha maji...https://twitter.com/i/status/1667694712377974785

 

[MakinikiA]

Igweeee

 

[D A E M U S H I N]

Ukraine's Zelenskiy says he does not understand logic of decision by African leaders to visit Russia after talks in Kyiv

 

[Cash Generating Unit]

Mzee leo kaunguruma sana. Ni vile anawaonea huruma Ukraine

 

[jooohs]

Putin: If F-16s are stationed at air bases outside Ukraine but used in combat, we will have to see how to hit them.

Poland akisikia hivi anatamani kujikojolea

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[ndomyana]

Masaa 72 mwaka wa pili huu

 

[Upepo wa Pesa]

Kwa ufupi kabisa nisijetia neno nikaharibu.

NB: Ndio maana counteroffencive imefeli, NATO wanaaibika.

 

[K11]

Hakuna anayependa kufa wakati viongozi na ndg zao wako wanakula viyoyozi makwao

 

[ngajapo]

Mzee wa kazi PUTIN leo alikuwa na hotuba nzito kaongea kwa uthabiti sana kuhusiana na madui zake wa magharibi

 

[kp kipanya44]

General Oleksandr Syrskyi, commander of the Ukrainian Ground Forces, made a new visit to Ukrainian military units near the city of Bakhmut in Donetsk Oblast.

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[BUSH BIN LADEN]

mixx naona hii ni Minsk sio Helsinki niliyoiomba kwa mnato umshana

 

[kp kipanya44]

Denmark is ready to train Ukrainian pilots on F-16 fighters by providing access to its airbase, acting Danish Defense Minister Troels Lund Poulsen told TV2.

Denmark, together with the Netherlands, developed a plan to train Ukrainian soldiers on F-16 fighter jets. Poulsen said he hopes for support from other countries to help present a more concrete exercise plan.

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[mixx]

mixx naona hii ni Minsk sio Helsinki niliyoiomba kwa mnato umshana

oops!... my bad