Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Alipaswa kumfukuza Shoigu ila sio sasa...
Hawezi mfukuza,Sababu ukiachia jeshi la Wagner lizidi kukua hapo Ukraine/Russia ni hatari kwa Putin.Ndo maana wameamua wagner wajiunge na jeshi la serikali au waende huko kwa Lukasheko.Ila Wagner Africa wataendelea na mission huku Africa.
 
BELARUS [emoji1044] mambo yanazidi kuwa matamu::

Belarusian media:

A new camp for the Russian Wagner units is being built in Belarus, specifically in the forests of the Mogilev region. The first camp was planned in Osipovichi, 200 km from the border with Ukraine. It is said that its area is 24,000 square meters, and it will accommodate 8,000 soldiers.
Ipo siku watakuja kumpindua Lukashenko .Naona kaingia mkenge wa Putin huyu Lukashenko kuruhusu Wagner kuwa na camp nchini mwake.
 
Ipo siku watakuja kumpindua Lukashenko .Naona kaingia mkenge wa Putin huyu Lukashenko kuruhusu Wagner kuwa na camp nchini mwake.

Lukashenko mpaka pale unavyomwona ni kwasababu ya Putin, bila mzee asingekuwepo pale. Ishu ni kwamba Wagner wanakwenda kwaajili ya special mission, Russia wamepeleka nukes pale Belarus.
 
Baada ya hotuba ya putin tukubaliane kwamba swala la wagner halikuwa igizo?
TUJITEGEMEE
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HIMARS
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Igizo kivipi ili iweje na kwa faida ya nani, yaani upo katikati ya vita halafu uanze maigizo nyumbani ambayo yanaliteteresha taifa na kutishia kulipasua vipande, kwanza uliona namna hao Wagner walilakiwa na wananchi wakati wanafanya huo uasi, ni dhihirisho tosha kwamba Putin hatakiwi na watu, wengi wanatafuta pakulianzia Putin ana la kujifunza kwa jinsi Warusi walikua wanamshangilia kiongozi wa Wagner
 
Tunasonga mbele pande zote - Zelenskyy

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President Volodymyr Zelenskyy speaks to a Ukrainian soldier at a petrol station after visiting positions near the front line in Donetsk region, Ukraine, on June 26, 2023 [Ukrainian Presidential Press Service via Reuters]

“I have the honour to be here today, talk to the commander and first of all thank you, thank you for protecting our country, sovereignty, our families, children, Ukraine,” Zelenskyy said in the video.
 
Unless wagawanyike kitu ambacho Putin anakiomba usiku na mchana ili mambo yake yawe mapesi, vinginevyo ndugu hawa watu kwa umoja wao aisee hawashindwi jambo.

Nani alitegemea humu kwamba Urusi eti atapigana na Ukraine kwa mwaka na ushee na bado mambo magumu? wote tulijua ni wiki mbili tatu kwisha, sasa jiulize kumetokea nini.

Wakati mwingine tuongee reality na si ushabiki - yaani ni hivi option aliyonayo Putin ni moja kukaa mezani wayamalize vinginevyo ajiandae kupigana vita vya zaidi ya miaka 10.
Mkuu unavyo unashirikish akili zako[emoji336]
[emoji1] Ukraine kivit kimapambo hujui kuw wao walishamalzwa?!
[emoji717]vfaa vta wanavyotumia Ukraine kwa 1000000% wanachangia ata mia
[emoji613]je wamekodish wanajesh wa nje au wanajesh wao Kwa sasa wapo kias gan?!
[emoji419]HUoni impact ya Russia [emoji635][emoji635] kufanya OP yake taratbu kiuchimu hasa upande wa NATO



Kam kuna binadamu anaongea kuw ukrain ndie anapgan na NaTo kwishaaaaa kbsa lazm awe [emoji52][emoji58][emoji41] upinde haswaa
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Kipigo kwa NATO kinaendelea vizuri Kama kilivyopangwa
MILITARY OPERATION IN UKRAINE

26 JUN, 20:02

Ukraine loses no less than 17 US armored vehicles Bradley — NYT

The Ukrainian army has lost at least 17 Bradley armored vehicles handed over to Kiev by the United States, The New York Times reported on Monday, citing a US official.

The daily notes that the United States has provided 113 armored vehicles to Kiev, of which at least 17, or more than 15%, have been damaged or destroyed.

Earlier, CNN reported that 16 of the 109 US armored vehicles were destroyed, damaged or abandoned recently. Analysts say that given the scale of the war and the length of the frontline, such losses were well expected. According to the Dutch portal Oryx, the Ukrainian military has lost at least 3,600 pieces of military equipment since February 2022.

According to the Russian Defense Ministry, the Ukrainian army has been making unsuccessful offensive attempts since June 4. On June 22, the secretary of Russia’s Security Council, Nikolay Patrushev, said that Ukraine’s losses in manpower since the start of the counteroffensive campaign had exceeded 13,000. Russian President Vladimir Putin stressed that the Ukrainian army had no success in any direction.

According to Bloomberg, the West admits that Ukraine has sustained significant losses. At the same time, the Politico newspaper quoted Washington administration officials as saying that further assistance to Kiev would depend on the success of the counterattack.
 
Over 35 military clashes have occurred in the Lyman, Bakhmut and Marinka directions in the past 24 hours, according to the latest update from the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.


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Saizi idadi inapungua inapelekea zero kutoka kwenye 800 mwisho wa kuita maji mma unakuja.
 
Dear Friends, I am once again addressing Russian citizens.
Thank you for solidarity, for unity, for patriotism.
Any attempts at internal discord are fated to failure.
Everyone united against the insurrection.
The entire Russian society acted for the Fatherland.
From the beginning, everything was done to neutralize the threat.
In any event, the mutiny would have been put down.
They had to have understood this.
They understood everything.
They understood that they went against the state, which meant that Russia was threatened, which meant that this could affect the front.
They betrayed those whom they drew into their crime. They wanted to get them to shoot at Russians.
The West, the Ukraine, the "pseudo-patriots" in Russia—they all wanted Russians to shoot at each other.
But they failed and made a mistake.
I thank all the Russian soldiers, all those who maintained fealty to Russia.
Their heroism prevented Russia from falling apart.
At the same time, the main bulk of Wagner are patriots of Russia. They were drawn into this blind.
From the beginning, on my orders, we made this bloodless.
To allow those who made a mistake to change their minds.
So they would understand their mistake.
I thank those Wagner soldiers and commanders who did not make a mistake.
You have a chance to continue fighting for Russia. To go back to your loved ones. To go to Belarus.
My word will remain firm.
The choice is yours.
The consolidation of the nation made all the difference. It is that which allowed us to remain united and firm.
Kwa mujibu wa Putin yey ndio alitoa amr jeshi lilipaswa kutowashambulia Wagner na ndio maana waliichukua kambi fasta tu tena bila mapambano na hata msafara wao kuelekea Moscow haukupata vigingi vyovyote vile lengo ni kudhibit mzozo usiwe mkubwa


Lkn Braza Prigozhin alipewa ofa gani kutoka kwa Putin mpaka kuamua kusitisha uas
 
Shetani Putin anaongea usiku huu,sijui atasema nini kuhusu best wake Prigozhin.
Ule uasi wa genge la Prigozhin (japo umedumu muda mfupi tu) umemdhalilisha sana Putin, umeonyesha huyu Mzee hana udhibiti wa kila kitu hapo Moscow.

Waliodhani Russia ni Supa-pawa walinyewea wote.
 
Baada ya hotuba ya putin tukubaliane kwamba swala la wagner halikuwa igizo?
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Siyo igizo.Sababu Wagner walikuwa wanapambania maslahi yao. Na Putin hawataki tena Wagner hapo Ukraine,sababu anaogopa wakikua zaidi ni hatari sana kwake.Ndo maana anataka wawe waajiriwa wa jeshi la ulinzi serikalini. Prigo alikasirika maana hakutakuwa na hela tena.
 

Wagner uprising "was almost hiding in plain sight," US Sen. Mark Warner says​

From CNN's Natasha Bertrand, Alex Marquardt, Kylie Atwood and Kevin Liptak


Democratic Sen. Mark Warner speaks during a Senate Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs Committee hearing in Washington, DC, on May 16.
Democratic Sen. Mark Warner speaks during a Senate Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs Committee hearing in Washington, DC, on May 16. Al Drago/Bloomberg/Getty Images/FILE

Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin's uprising did not come out of nowhere. US officials had been tracking his ongoing growing feud with Russia's Ministry of Defense for months and took note when threats were traded back and forth between them.

There were also signs that Wagner was stockpiling weapons and ammunition leading up to the rebellion, CNN has reported.

Democratic Sen. Mark Warner, the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee and a member of the Gang of Eight, told CNN that Prigozhin's rebellion "was almost hiding in plain sight."

Still, it was surprising to US intelligence officials how little resistance Wagner faced.

"Putin of 10 years ago would have never allowed this to play out the way it did," Warner said, adding that Putin is "clearly weakened."

"The fact that you have a mercenary group, that I don't think had a full 25,000 troops the way Prigozhin claimed, but was able to literally march into Rostov, a city of a million people which was the command and control for the whole Ukrainian war and take it over with barely a shot fired — that is unprecedented, to say the least," Warner said.

Multiple sources told CNN that US and Western officials believe that Putin was simply caught off guard by Prigozhin's actions and did not have time to array his forces against the mercenaries before they managed to seize control of the military headquarters in Rostov. Putin also likely did not want to divert significant resources away from Ukraine, officials said.

Officials do believe, however, that had Prigozhin tried to seize Moscow or the Kremlin, he would have lost — decisively. That is likely why Prigozhin agreed to strike a deal with Belarus and ultimately turned his troops around, the officials said.

Once Prigozhin launched his rebellion, senior US officials began scrambling to connect with allies and partners and reiterate a key message: The West should remain silent and not give Putin any opening to lay the blame on the US or NATO for the insurrection.

Privately, US officials were reinforcing to the Russian government that the US had nothing to do with the uprising — and urging them to maintain the safety and security of their nuclear arsenal, officials said.


US gathered detailed intelligence on Wagner chief's rebellion plans but kept it secret, sources say​

From CNN's Natasha Bertrand, Alex Marquardt, Kylie Atwood and Kevin Liptak

US intelligence officials were able to gather an extremely detailed and accurate picture of Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin's plans leading up to his short-lived rebellion, including where and how Wagner was planning to advance, sources familiar with the matter told CNN.

But the intelligence was so closely held that it was shared only with select allies, including senior British officials, and not at the broader NATO level, sources familiar with the matter told CNN.

It was not clear exactly when Prigozhin would act, the sources said. But he appears to have decided to move forward with his plan following a June 10 declaration by Russia's Ministry of Defense that all private military companies, including Wagner, would be forced to sign contracts with Russia's military beginning in July and essentially be absorbed by the Russian Ministry of Defense.

The intelligence was so secret that within the US, it was briefed only to the most senior administration officials as well as the Gang of Eight members of Congress who have access to the most sensitive intelligence matters.

The secrecy surrounding the intelligence was why some senior European officials and even senior officials across the US government were caught off guard by Prigozhin's attack on Friday, and the speed with which Wagner forces marched into Rostov-on-Don and up toward Moscow into Saturday morning, the sources said.

Some NATO officials expressed frustration that the intelligence was not shared. But doing so would have risked compromising extremely sensitive sources and methods, sources explained.

Ukrainian officials were not told about the intelligence in advance, either, officials said, due primarily to fears that conversations between US and Ukrainian officials might be intercepted by adversaries.

Biden spent the days after the rebellion fizzled out speaking with allies, including the leaders of France, Germany, the United Kingdom and Canada, as well as Ukrainian President Volodomyr Zelensky.

During those conversations, he shared what information the US had about the rebellion, according to officials, in order to ensure the leaders had a better understanding of what was known to US intelligence.
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Putin amekuwa dhaifu Sana, alishawahi kusema hasamehi wasaliti ila Wagner wamepata msamaha tena watachagua pa kwenda..........ingekuwa ni Putin wa kabla ya hivi Vita hawa jamaa wangepata tabu Sana.

Hivi Vita vimeiyumbisha sana Urusi na Putin, mpaka viishe hii nchi itakumbwa na anguko lingine kama lile la mwaka 1991.
 
Siyo igizo.Sababu Wagner walikuwa wanapambania maslahi yao. Na Putin hawataki tena Wagner hapo Ukraine,sababu anaogopa wakikua zaidi ni hatari sana kwake.Ndo maana anataka wawe waajiriwa wa jeshi la ulinzi serikalini. Prigo alikasirika maana hakutakuwa na hela tena.
So baada ya hekaheka za juzi putin kaamua kuachana na hilo swala au wagner wameamua kutii tu?
 
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