Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Sijawahi fikiri kuwa wegner inaweza fanya hivi. Kama sio propaganda basi Putin amalize hii OP yake either kwa vita kamili iliyoshiba au kwa kuachana na Ukraine au kwa makubaliano. Si sawa kudharau akili za wazungu kutoka nchi za NATO wanaweza wakakusuprice.
Hawana surprise yeyote ile PMC na PUT IN wameupiga wakutosha
 
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Putin piga mbwa hao bila ya huruma, u atoka nyumbani kwenu kunako amani na utulivu, unakimbilia kwa jirani kuchochea vita
 

There were "hints" of prior knowledge in Russian establishment about mutiny, European intel official says​

From CNN’s Nick Paton Walsh

A European intelligence official told CNN there were “hints” the Russian security services or military might have had prior knowledge of the armed rebellion in Russia this weekend and might have wanted it to succeed.

A European intelligence official, who did not want to be named discussing sensitive information, said: “They might have known, and might have not told about it, and known and decided to help it succeed. There are some hints.

There might have been prior knowledge. What happened made Putin lose prestige. If that is what factions wanted, then that is what they got.”

“I would not speculate on whether a purge will follow, but there is definitely turmoil and it has added more fuel to that.”
Asked if General Sergey Surovikin had advanced knowledge of the plot, as reported by the New York Times, or if Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin intended to capture Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu or chief of staff Valery Gerasmiov, as reported by the WSJ, the official said: “There is a lot of fog still. That would be speculation. Time will tell what exactly [Prigozhin’s] reasons were.”

The official would not comment if Prigozhin is in Belarus. “We still do not know everything that was in the deal Lukashenko brokered,” the official added, saying this would determine how potent a force Prigozhin remained.

The official added that any impact on the front lines in Ukraine would likely not be felt in the next few days, but might take longer.
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Putin kweli amechokwa, ataendelea kuishi kwa wasiwasi sana.
 
Updates: Russia watuma ndege maalum Marekani kupeleka na kuwarudisha majasusi wake kadhaa.

Katika sintofahamu inoendelea baada ya jaribio la uasi wa jeshi, serikali ya Russia imetuma ndege maalum kwenda Marekani kuwachukua maofisa wa ujasusi walioko mjini Washington na kuwarudisha nyumbani Moscow.

Ndege hiyo iliondoka siku ya jumanne nchini Russia na yaelezwa kuwa tayari imewasili mjini Washington kuwabeba maofisa wote waloamriwa kurudi Moscow na raisi Putin.

Serikali ya Mareakni imesema imeiruhusu Russia kutuma ndege hiyo maalum kwa kubeba raisi na viongozi waandamizi wa Serikali kwenda kuwachukua maofisa hao wa ubalozi wa Russia nchini Marekani ambao wengi wao wamemaliza muda wao.

Maofisa hao watapowasili mjini Moscow watakwenda moja kwa moja kufanya mazungumzo na wakuu wa vyombo vya kijasusi vya Russia ili kupata taarifa rasmi hususan zinohusiana na tukio la jumamosi la uasi wa kikundi cha Wagner.

Mmoja wa maofisa ujausi wa zamani wa Marekani amesema huenda ndege hiyo iikiwa safarini kwenda Marekani imebeba maofisa wapya wa Russia watochukua nafasi za maofisa waloamriwa kurudi Moscow.

Maofisa hao wapya watapowasili mjini Washington DC yalipo makazi rasmi ya ubalozi wa Russia watabadilishana masuala kadhaa na wenzao wa Marekani. Ndege hiyo ya serikali ya Russia ilitarajiwa kuwasili katika uwanja wa ndege wa Dulles ulioko mjini Washington.

Mambo mengi yamekuwa yakitokea nchini Russia tangia jumamosi lilipotokea jaribio la uasi wa kikundi cha Wagner na leo hii imeelezwa kuwa mmoja wa majenerali waandamizi wa jesi la Russia jenerali Surovikin amewekwa chini ya ulinzi kwa mahojiano na maofisa wa idara ya ujasusi wa ndani ya FSB.

Habari zaidi kuendelea kuja.

Vyanzo: i, News 360 na SpyTalk.
 
Hivi humu kwenye uzi huu wamo Warusi pia, na pia wanaweza kuandika kiswahili?

Mimi sio Mrusi ni mtanzania ila naona kama wengi wenzangu humu ni warusi sasa sijui nitoke nitafute uzi wa wanongo au?

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Ungetoka tu. Humu washabiki wa upinde wanapata tabu sana. Nakuhurumia ukiendelea kubaki
 
Russian general 'missing' since Wagner Group rebellion

A top Russian general who reportedly had advanced knowledge of the Wagner rebellion has not been seen since the armed mutiny unfolded on Saturday.

Sergei "Armageddon" Surovikin is second-in-command of the Russian army and has known links to Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin.

He was replaced as the top commander earlier this year but retained influence in running war operations.

Russian Telegram channel Rybar has suggested he is being held under interrogation.

"Surovikin has not been seen since Saturday - it is not known for certain where General Armageddon is located. There is a version that he is under interrogation," it reported.

US intelligence had previously said Mr Surovikin knew about Prigozhin's plans to rebel against Russia's military leadership, according to the New York Times.

"We said yesterday keep an eye on him because he must be having a fairly difficult time," our defence and security analyst Michael Clarke said.

"What happens to this man will be very interesting. He hasn't appeared since he made a statement on Saturday urging the Wagner people to go back to the units and behave themselves."

Before launching the mutiny, Prigozhin had raged against both Sergei Shoigu, the Russian defence minister, and Valery Gerasimov, chief of the general staff, blaming them for failures in Ukraine and the army's lack of support for Wagner fighters.

Mr Gerasimov has also not been since Saturday, Clarke added, and neither has Russia's deputy security council chief Dmitry Medvedev.

Mr Medvedev's personal aircraft went to Oman over the weekend and hasn't come back, he said.
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Putin ameanza safisha safisha ?....

Vyovyote iwavyo Putin ataendelea kutawala kwa hofu ya kuzuka uasi mwingine, hatopata utulivu na kutawala kwa amani tena.

Russia is a mafia state....

Yoda HIMARS T14 Armata
 
Hivi humu kwenye uzi huu wamo Warusi pia, na pia wanaweza kuandika kiswahili?

Mimi sio Mrusi ni mtanzania ila naona kama wengi wenzangu humu ni warusi sasa sijui nitoke nitafute uzi wa wanongo au?

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Una uhakika wewe ni Mtanzania? Nchi ina wenyewe hii! Na wenyewe ndiyo wao! Wamesaini mikataba ya kuuza bandari wewe ulishirikishwa? Bado tuna safari ndefu sana, kwa sasa ngoja tujibanze hapo!
 
Kadryov Yuko 80km kuwafikia Wagner,Kuna vita vitatokea Urusi vikubwa haijapata kutokea
Yaani na wewe uliwaza kabisa kama kuna vita vitatokea RUSSIA [emoji635] mnakwamia wapi pro RUSSIA [emoji635] PMC wamepelekwa BELARUS [emoji1044] kimkakati tuu PMC na kolabo yote inayoongoza SMO pale UKRAINE [emoji1255] basi lao moja
Maneno maneno wanayotoleana yasiwatishe PMC hawawezi wakakaa wakaiasi KREMLIN sababu wanajua utakua ndio mwisho wao
 
Ndiyo, ni silaha dhaifu hadi sasa. Wapi silaha zu kupiga ndegevita kwa umbali wa wastani? Wapi roketi zinazofikia vituo ambako Putin anarusha roketi na ndege zake?
NATO inazuia kupatikana kwa silaha hizo upande wa Ukraine.
Hukujua bado
Kwa mtazamo wako ni nini kinawakwamisha kutoa silaha mathubuti kwa ukrane? Je tuamini wanaogopa majibu ya moto ya urusi?
 
Hivi humu kwenye uzi huu wamo Warusi pia, na pia wanaweza kuandika kiswahili?

Mimi sio Mrusi ni mtanzania ila naona kama wengi wenzangu humu ni warusi sasa sijui nitoke nitafute uzi wa wanongo au?

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Hivi humu kwenye uzi huu wamo Warusi pia, na pia wanaweza kuandika kiswahili?

Mimi sio Mrusi ni mtanzania ila naona kama wengi wenzangu humu ni warusi sasa sijui nitoke nitafute uzi wa wanongo au?

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wewe ni pro-NATO acha kuzunguka!!!

wasubir wenzako hapa hapa subr Russia wapigwe tukio utawaona wenzako wamefika
 
Unashangaa naitaja Poland?
Putin kapigana na mchekeshaji Joti wa Ukraine kijana Zelensky, mpaka sasa yamemshinda. Sasa kaanza kupigana babantilie Sele bonge mzee Prigozhin mmiliki wa kampuni [emoji23].

Sasa Putin ndio akapigane na Andrzej Duda?View attachment 2667653
Na cha ajabu nini sasa wakati Poland iliwahi itandika Urusi, na kwenye WW2 USSR ililazimika ishirikiane na Ujerumani kugawana Poland na bado walioanza kushambulia ni Ujerumani. Poland ndio wangekuwa vitani mbona wanamgambo wa Urusi wangeshapoteana muda sana.

Nchi yenyewe jeshi haliwezi zuia vibaka na wafungwa waliotolewa gerezani na kupigana miezi nane dhidi ya Ukraine na kuambulia kamji kamoja kenye chumvi, wakati huo Wagner haohao wametumia masaa tu hata siku haijafika kuteka mji muhimu kabisa kwenye ulinzi wa Magharibi mwa Urusi. Sasa hiyo nchi iweze Poland?
Kuzuia Wagner wanaitwa wale Tiktokers akina Kadyrov wanatokea Mashariki ya mbali uko na wako alfu kadhaa tu, wakati nchi ina wanajeshi zaidi ya milioni wanakunywa uji sijui. Yalaa! superpower uchwara kapigwa na kitu kizito kichwani[emoji23][emoji23].

"Russia ni taifa teule" by Bwana Utam
Kama uliamini kwamba kuna mgogoro baina ya PMC na RUSSIA [emoji635] pole sana MKUU
 
Nafikiri wafuatao Russia pale wanapaswa kujiudhuru kama sio kuunganishwa kwenye case ya uhaini.Putin akijifanya mwema..next time yatamtokea puani, ajifunze kwa Erdogan alichokifanya baada ya jeshi kujaribu kumpindua:
1.Shiogu:Huyu jamaa ameshindwa kabisa kiwa kiongozi.Ameahindwa kusolve ugomvi wake na Wagner kwa muda mrefu ..ugomvi wao unaekea kubaya..

2.Mkuu wa FSB: Haya yote yanafanyika: alikua wapi:Mpaka Wagner wanatembea km 200...yaani kama wameshindwa kujua mipango ya Wagner..watajua kinachoendelea Washington
3.Head of GRU
4.Head :SVR
5.National Guard
Shida nyie ndio hamjui yaani PMC wangekua wameeka nia kweli yakumgeuka PUT IN wangejulikana mapema sana
Hii ilikua igizo kama maigizo mengine yaendeleayo nayatakayo Kuja hakuna ugomvi wowote baina yahao uliowataja hapo juu
RUSSIA [emoji635] ipo kwenye mikono salama naona watu wametoka porini kisa PMC karibuni sana kina ARMATA
 
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