passioner255
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Kwani wewe ni mchekeshaji?
Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?
Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?
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Bwana Utam
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Kuna watu sio hata wakuwajibu MKUU basi tuuu
Reborn Ktb
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Dead on arrival, alafu naona kuna watu wamelike huu ujinga. How can those countries cooperate in security when they have active territorial disputes which leads to arm conflicts
India Vs China( aksai chin and other regions )
Parkistan Vs India (Kashmir region)
China Vs Russia (damansky island)
CARDLESS
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Mmhh, lkn huu mgogoro kwann wasiumalize kwa mazungumzo? Ukraine akiwa NATO atapata nini na asipokuwepo huko atakosa nini?? Mbona nchi nyingi haziko NATO na zimeendelea sana?? Yann kutesa Raia kwa mgongo wa kutetea nchi?? Nchi inaweza kutetewa kwa mikataba na makubaliano maalum ili kuepusha maafa na vifo vinavyoepukika.
Galip Veryl
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Jamaa wanaoshinda silaha zao zimeisha [emoji847][emoji847][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] na ule mzigo wote western walioutuma sijui umepotelea wapi...
Ukiongeza na mavifaru wanayotwambia wameyakamata ya kirusi nayo sijui wameyauzia wapiiii...
[emoji1255] The Times: Ukraine is running out of weapons and ammunition
Journalists write that the West did not expect such an intense war, and did not prepare additional supplies to Ukraine.
Ukiongeza na mavifaru wanayotwambia wameyakamata ya kirusi nayo sijui wameyauzia wapiiii...
[emoji1255] The Times: Ukraine is running out of weapons and ammunition
Journalists write that the West did not expect such an intense war, and did not prepare additional supplies to Ukraine.
Reborn Ktb
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Zelensky to address NATO summit virtually
BlackPanther
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Urusi kamateni haraka huyu Zelensky, watu wake wanaangamia kwa ujinga wake....
Cash Generating Unit
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hao NATO wanajilinda zidi ya nani?? Si waingie front wanaogopa nini??
Galip Veryl
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[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] Sema hii thread ipo kishabiki kiasi kwamba mpaka ushike upande ndio utaeleweka...
Ila amini nakwambia Dunia ilivo iko tofauti kabisa na kile tunachokiona. Tuliyonayo katika fikra zetu ni "mitizamo" tu sio "ukweli" ama "uhalisia" wa jambo...
Kinachoendelea Ukraine ni zaidi ya Ukraine yenyewe... Ni zaidi ya huo mgogoro tunaouona nje... Mwanzo kuna kauli nilikua naitaja mara kwa mara kua "They don't care about us"... Na sasa naweza kurudia kuitamka tena "They don't care about us"... Je ni akina nani hao?
Wanasema the less you know the safer you are... Lichunguze sana hilo kundi linalojiita "International"... Hilo kundi linalojiita "World" kisha wanakuita wewe mweusi ujiunge na "World" kumpiga vita flan... [emoji848][emoji848][emoji848][emoji848]
Sounds like conspiracy [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] ila ha ha ha ha tuishie apo tu.
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The CSTO does not discuss the topic of involving units of other countries in the Russian special operation in Ukraine - Peskov.
The operation is being carried out in strict accordance with the plans and tasks, the press secretary of the Russian leader said. Key statements:
🔹The entry of NATO peacekeepers into Ukraine would be reckless and dangerous, contact can lead to difficult-to-repair consequences
🔹The United States is exerting undisguised and little diplomatic pressure on all countries, acting against Russia. They put pressure on the G20 on the topic of the Russian Federation, but a number of countries maintain an independent position.
🔹The Ministry of Defense will provide new information on losses in the special operation in Ukraine when it deems it necessary.
🔹 The President has not yet received information from the military prosecutor's office why the conscripts ended up in Ukraine, but little time has passed.
🔹About Putin's participation in the G20 and APEC summits: it's too early to talk about it, the situation in world affairs is dramatic and changing radically.
🔹About the departure of the stars: no need to dramatize, they "can't make the weather."
The operation is being carried out in strict accordance with the plans and tasks, the press secretary of the Russian leader said. Key statements:
🔹The entry of NATO peacekeepers into Ukraine would be reckless and dangerous, contact can lead to difficult-to-repair consequences
🔹The United States is exerting undisguised and little diplomatic pressure on all countries, acting against Russia. They put pressure on the G20 on the topic of the Russian Federation, but a number of countries maintain an independent position.
🔹The Ministry of Defense will provide new information on losses in the special operation in Ukraine when it deems it necessary.
🔹 The President has not yet received information from the military prosecutor's office why the conscripts ended up in Ukraine, but little time has passed.
🔹About Putin's participation in the G20 and APEC summits: it's too early to talk about it, the situation in world affairs is dramatic and changing radically.
🔹About the departure of the stars: no need to dramatize, they "can't make the weather."
mtwa mkulu
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Mimi ni msoviet lakini kwa Hili nashindwa kuwa pamoja na putin
BlackPanther
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Wewe utakua ni msovieti wa mchongo 🤣 kinachokufanya uwe Ukraine, marekani na NATO ni nini haswaa?
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pro- kremlin tabloid paper Komsomolskaya Pravda iliripoti kuwa idadi ya wanajeshi wa urusi waliofariki huko ukraine sasa imefikia 9861 na majeruhi 16,153 ikinukuu chanzo kutoka ndani ya wizara ya ulinzi ya urusi hata hivyo siku ya jana wameitoa habari hiyo kwe mtandao wao wakisema habari hiyo si sahihi ni hackers ndio waliiweka, taarifa rasmi ya idadi ya vifo baada ya wiki tatu za vita ni askari 498 kwa mujibu wa serikali ya urusi baada ya hapo haikuwahi kutoa tena taarifa ya casualities huko ukraine
eurasiantimes.com
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www.reuters.com
Russian Media Says ‘10,000 Soldiers’ Killed In Ukraine; Is Moscow Following The Chinese Model Of Downplaying Casualties?
The pro-Kremlin tabloid ‘Komsomolskaya Pravda’ revealed on March 21 that nearly 10,000 Russian troops had been killed in Ukraine’s war, before hastily removing the information from its news portal. Russia Deploys Its ‘Hunter’ BUK Missiles To Ukraine That Was Used To Shoot Down Malaysian Flight...
eurasiantimes.com
Pro-Kremlin Newspaper Blames 'Hackers' For Russian Military Death Toll Report
The Russian pro-Kremlin Komsomolskaya Pravda newspaper claims hackers attacked its system and briefly published a figure indicating a Russian death toll of nearly 10,000 soldiers from the fighting in Ukraine before editors deleted the information.
www.rferl.org
Russian news website blames hack for report of nearly 10,000 army deaths in Ukraine
A Russian newspaper has accused hackers of planting fake news on its website after a report appeared there for more than six hours saying nearly 10,000 Russian soldiers had been killed in Ukraine.
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@T14 Arnata
Kama mfuatiliaji wa hizi mambo za nishati ya RUSSIA na sekeseke la EU nadhani umemsikia kansela wa GERMAN alichokisema
Najua jana koment yangu uliiona ila ukaamua tu kutokuijibu
Ila olaf kashatangaza rasmi kwamba GERMAN na EU hazipo tayari tena kusapoti kikwazo chochote kinachohusiana na NISHATI dhidi ya RUSSIA kwamadai alosema kwamba kufanya hvyo kutahatarisha si tu UCHUMI wa GERMAN bali ni UCHUMI wote wa EU au mataifa ya ULAYA
tukiwa tunawaambieni yakwamba RUSSIA sio zimbabwe muwe munaelewa yaani hao walojidanganya ku freeze pesa za RUSSIA labda US pekee nae pengine ila wengine walobakia wooote watarejesha pesa zote nawataendelea kununu energy toka RUSSIA
Jana nilikuuliza swali naleo nakuuliza tena ndugu@T14 Armata kabla EU hawajatishia kugomea energy ya RUSSIA nakutaka kwenda ME hawakuwahi kujua yakwamba kuna mafuta huko?
Kwahili alilolisema huyu kenge wa GERMAN nisuala la muda tu kabla ya Nord Stream 2 kuendelea kufanya kazi kama kawaida yake
Kwahili sakata US anakua looser mkubwa sio RUSSIA kama tulivyoaminishwa maana atakua kaichapa UKRAINE mbele zamashinikizo ya NATO nabado wanamtegemea kwenye energy kama kawaida
RUSSIA sio ZIMBAWE
Kama mfuatiliaji wa hizi mambo za nishati ya RUSSIA na sekeseke la EU nadhani umemsikia kansela wa GERMAN alichokisema
Najua jana koment yangu uliiona ila ukaamua tu kutokuijibu
Ila olaf kashatangaza rasmi kwamba GERMAN na EU hazipo tayari tena kusapoti kikwazo chochote kinachohusiana na NISHATI dhidi ya RUSSIA kwamadai alosema kwamba kufanya hvyo kutahatarisha si tu UCHUMI wa GERMAN bali ni UCHUMI wote wa EU au mataifa ya ULAYA
tukiwa tunawaambieni yakwamba RUSSIA sio zimbabwe muwe munaelewa yaani hao walojidanganya ku freeze pesa za RUSSIA labda US pekee nae pengine ila wengine walobakia wooote watarejesha pesa zote nawataendelea kununu energy toka RUSSIA
Jana nilikuuliza swali naleo nakuuliza tena ndugu@T14 Armata kabla EU hawajatishia kugomea energy ya RUSSIA nakutaka kwenda ME hawakuwahi kujua yakwamba kuna mafuta huko?
Kwahili alilolisema huyu kenge wa GERMAN nisuala la muda tu kabla ya Nord Stream 2 kuendelea kufanya kazi kama kawaida yake
Kwahili sakata US anakua looser mkubwa sio RUSSIA kama tulivyoaminishwa maana atakua kaichapa UKRAINE mbele zamashinikizo ya NATO nabado wanamtegemea kwenye energy kama kawaida
RUSSIA sio ZIMBAWE
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The Russian Defense Ministry destroyed the S-300PS air defense system of the Ukrainian army in Kyiv.
It is noteworthy that the launcher of the complex was located in an industrial building in the north of the city.
It is noteworthy that the launcher of the complex was located in an industrial building in the north of the city.
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He addressed politicians and the people of Japan, emphasizing that they were the first in Asia to put real pressure on Russia to restore peace. Who supported the sanctions against Russia. Encouraged to continue to do so. He called for a concerted effort by Japan's Asian partner states to stabilize the situation so that Russia seeks peace and stops the tsunami of its brutal invasion of Ukraine.
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Usijekuwa TU ni ukurasa wa tweeter ya bbcbuza.
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Proposed draft Ceasefire Agreement between Russia and Ukraine.
English Translation
Draft
The diplomatic representatives of Russia and Ukraine, through repeated mediation, repeated negotiations and consultations among China, Germany and France, have reached the following agreement on the cessation of armed conflict, the restoration of peace and the normalization of relations between the Russian Federation and the Republic of Ukraine.
First, Ukraine promises never to join NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization) and never allow the deployment of foreign troops and foreign military equipment and weapons on its own territory;
Second, Ukraine promises never to regain possession of nuclear weapons, never to develop nuclear and biological weapons, and never to possess them; the International Atomic Energy Agency and the International Agency for the Prohibition of Biological and Chemical Weapons are responsible for verifying and supervising Ukraine's responsibility and obligation to never possess nuclear and biological weapons.
Third, restore the status of Russian as one of the two official languages in Ukraine. Residents of all ethnic groups in Ukraine can freely choose to speak and write Ukrainian or Russian without any discrimination.
Fourth, restore the legal status of the Kharkiv People's Republic, the Donetsk People's Republic and the Luhansk People's Republic established since 2014, and retain a high degree of autonomy. Ukraine does not have troops stationed in the three Russian republics. Their status is similar to that of China's Hong Kong and Macau, and Ukraine firmly disagrees with the Taiwan model of China.
Fifth, Ukraine will no longer carry out anti-Russian, anti-Russian, and slanderous propaganda and propaganda. Russia has also stopped anti-Ukraine propaganda.
Sixth, Ukraine can join the European Union (European Union) on its own. However, whether the three highly autonomous republics will join together will be resolved through negotiations between the EU, the Ukrainian government and the governments of the three highly autonomous republics.
Seventh, along the border between Russia and Ukraine, and along the border between Ukraine and the three highly autonomous republics, deploy international peacekeeping forces led by China. The peacekeepers are composed of the five permanent members of the United Nations (China, the United States, Russia, Britain and France), plus Germany, plus India, Brazil, and South Africa (that is, the other three BRICS countries), responsible for peacekeeping. The commander of the peacekeeping force is the Chinese general, and the deputy commander of the peacekeeping force is alternately served by colonel or colonel-level officers from France and Germany.
Eighth, the five permanent members of the United Nations, plus Germany, Italy, India, Brazil, South Africa, Ukraine, Pakistan, and Japan, form the Russia-Ukraine Restoration of Peace and Relations Normalization Committee, responsible for supervising and coordinating the aftermath work and proposals. Guiding Opinions.
Ninth, after Russia and Ukraine reached an agreement, Russia promised to withdraw its troops from Ukraine in stages and in batches, and withdraw all military equipment and weapons with them, and agreed that all Russian troops would withdraw from Ukraine within three months after the signing of the peace agreement;
Tenth, both sides release all the prisoners of war of the other side. While the prisoners of war were in custody, both sides were given normal treatment and the wounded were treated.
Eleventh, the two sides promised not to persecute their own prisoners of war and those who had assisted the other side. The two sides promised to return the weapons and equipment seized during the conflict. But what has been damaged will not be returned.
Twelfth, Russia promised to terminate diplomatic relations at the ambassadorial level with the three highly autonomous republics three months after Ukraine has effectively implemented the above-mentioned agreement. However, consulates can be established in these three republics.
Thirteenth, the above-mentioned three republics still belong to the administrative regions of Ukraine, but are demilitarized. The existing Russian militias were reorganized into armed police forces under the leadership of the Autonomous Republic. The Ukrainian army can only send individual liaison officers, observers, staff officers to enter.
Thirteenth, whether Russia has the right to deploy anti-missile weapons, medium-range, long-range, intercontinental missiles, nuclear weapons, etc. in the above-mentioned three republics, depends on whether the United States, NATO and other countries deploy similar weapons in Europe, Eastern Europe, and Russia. . If they are deployed, Russia also has the right to deploy similar weapons in the three countries mentioned above.
Fourteenth, the Crimean Peninsula was allocated from Russia to Ukraine by the central government of the Soviet Union in 1954 and returned to Russia peacefully in 2014. Ukraine no longer claims sovereignty over Crimea. But consulates can be established. Russia promises that residents in Crimea, regardless of their nationality, who are willing to become Russian nationals, will be accepted and granted citizenship; those who are willing to retain Ukrainian nationality will be granted permanent residence permits. Those who are willing to go back to Ukraine are allowed to bring their private property, including gold and silver, including stocks and other negotiable securities, back to Ukraine. At the same time, Russia guarantees that the sovereignty and governance of Crimea belongs to the local people. jointly owned by Russia and Ukraine.
Fifteenth, Ukraine resumes the supply of water (fresh water), electricity and gas to Crimea before 2014, and the relevant Russian companies will purchase them from the relevant Ukrainian companies at the usual international prices. After the disintegration of the Soviet Union in 1991 and before Ukraine returned to Russia in 2014, Russia paid Ukraine appropriate compensation for the public livelihood facilities invested and constructed by the Ukrainian government in Crimea and purchased them at a price. The specific amount shall be negotiated and negotiated by the relevant enterprises and companies of both parties.
Sixteenth, Russia promised not to be the first to deploy anti-missile weapons, medium-range, long-range, intercontinental missiles, nuclear weapons, etc. in Crimea. But if the United States, NATO and other countries deploy these weapons around Europe, Eastern Europe, and Russia, Russia also has the right to deploy similar weapons in Crimea.
Seventeenth, the UN Security Council and the Russian-Ukrainian Committee for the Restoration of Peace and Normalization of Relations are responsible for the interpretation and implementation of the terms of this agreement.
Eighteenth, this agreement is in seven copies, which are in Russian, Ukrainian, French, German, Chinese and English. The seven versions of the agreement are equally valid. published in the media. Among them, Germany, France, China, and the Quartet of the Security Council are the mediators as intermediary witnesses. Ukraine and Russia are both parties to the agreement.
Nineteenth, the agreement will be signed by the presidents of the two countries and will take effect immediately after it is passed by the parliament.
Signed by the Russian Foreign Minister
Signed by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine
German foreign minister signed
Signed by the French Foreign Minister
Chinese foreign minister signed
United Nations Representative: Signature
Signed by Russian President Vladimir Putin
Signed by Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky
March 17 , 2022 Ad
English Translation
Draft
The diplomatic representatives of Russia and Ukraine, through repeated mediation, repeated negotiations and consultations among China, Germany and France, have reached the following agreement on the cessation of armed conflict, the restoration of peace and the normalization of relations between the Russian Federation and the Republic of Ukraine.
First, Ukraine promises never to join NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization) and never allow the deployment of foreign troops and foreign military equipment and weapons on its own territory;
Second, Ukraine promises never to regain possession of nuclear weapons, never to develop nuclear and biological weapons, and never to possess them; the International Atomic Energy Agency and the International Agency for the Prohibition of Biological and Chemical Weapons are responsible for verifying and supervising Ukraine's responsibility and obligation to never possess nuclear and biological weapons.
Third, restore the status of Russian as one of the two official languages in Ukraine. Residents of all ethnic groups in Ukraine can freely choose to speak and write Ukrainian or Russian without any discrimination.
Fourth, restore the legal status of the Kharkiv People's Republic, the Donetsk People's Republic and the Luhansk People's Republic established since 2014, and retain a high degree of autonomy. Ukraine does not have troops stationed in the three Russian republics. Their status is similar to that of China's Hong Kong and Macau, and Ukraine firmly disagrees with the Taiwan model of China.
Fifth, Ukraine will no longer carry out anti-Russian, anti-Russian, and slanderous propaganda and propaganda. Russia has also stopped anti-Ukraine propaganda.
Sixth, Ukraine can join the European Union (European Union) on its own. However, whether the three highly autonomous republics will join together will be resolved through negotiations between the EU, the Ukrainian government and the governments of the three highly autonomous republics.
Seventh, along the border between Russia and Ukraine, and along the border between Ukraine and the three highly autonomous republics, deploy international peacekeeping forces led by China. The peacekeepers are composed of the five permanent members of the United Nations (China, the United States, Russia, Britain and France), plus Germany, plus India, Brazil, and South Africa (that is, the other three BRICS countries), responsible for peacekeeping. The commander of the peacekeeping force is the Chinese general, and the deputy commander of the peacekeeping force is alternately served by colonel or colonel-level officers from France and Germany.
Eighth, the five permanent members of the United Nations, plus Germany, Italy, India, Brazil, South Africa, Ukraine, Pakistan, and Japan, form the Russia-Ukraine Restoration of Peace and Relations Normalization Committee, responsible for supervising and coordinating the aftermath work and proposals. Guiding Opinions.
Ninth, after Russia and Ukraine reached an agreement, Russia promised to withdraw its troops from Ukraine in stages and in batches, and withdraw all military equipment and weapons with them, and agreed that all Russian troops would withdraw from Ukraine within three months after the signing of the peace agreement;
Tenth, both sides release all the prisoners of war of the other side. While the prisoners of war were in custody, both sides were given normal treatment and the wounded were treated.
Eleventh, the two sides promised not to persecute their own prisoners of war and those who had assisted the other side. The two sides promised to return the weapons and equipment seized during the conflict. But what has been damaged will not be returned.
Twelfth, Russia promised to terminate diplomatic relations at the ambassadorial level with the three highly autonomous republics three months after Ukraine has effectively implemented the above-mentioned agreement. However, consulates can be established in these three republics.
Thirteenth, the above-mentioned three republics still belong to the administrative regions of Ukraine, but are demilitarized. The existing Russian militias were reorganized into armed police forces under the leadership of the Autonomous Republic. The Ukrainian army can only send individual liaison officers, observers, staff officers to enter.
Thirteenth, whether Russia has the right to deploy anti-missile weapons, medium-range, long-range, intercontinental missiles, nuclear weapons, etc. in the above-mentioned three republics, depends on whether the United States, NATO and other countries deploy similar weapons in Europe, Eastern Europe, and Russia. . If they are deployed, Russia also has the right to deploy similar weapons in the three countries mentioned above.
Fourteenth, the Crimean Peninsula was allocated from Russia to Ukraine by the central government of the Soviet Union in 1954 and returned to Russia peacefully in 2014. Ukraine no longer claims sovereignty over Crimea. But consulates can be established. Russia promises that residents in Crimea, regardless of their nationality, who are willing to become Russian nationals, will be accepted and granted citizenship; those who are willing to retain Ukrainian nationality will be granted permanent residence permits. Those who are willing to go back to Ukraine are allowed to bring their private property, including gold and silver, including stocks and other negotiable securities, back to Ukraine. At the same time, Russia guarantees that the sovereignty and governance of Crimea belongs to the local people. jointly owned by Russia and Ukraine.
Fifteenth, Ukraine resumes the supply of water (fresh water), electricity and gas to Crimea before 2014, and the relevant Russian companies will purchase them from the relevant Ukrainian companies at the usual international prices. After the disintegration of the Soviet Union in 1991 and before Ukraine returned to Russia in 2014, Russia paid Ukraine appropriate compensation for the public livelihood facilities invested and constructed by the Ukrainian government in Crimea and purchased them at a price. The specific amount shall be negotiated and negotiated by the relevant enterprises and companies of both parties.
Sixteenth, Russia promised not to be the first to deploy anti-missile weapons, medium-range, long-range, intercontinental missiles, nuclear weapons, etc. in Crimea. But if the United States, NATO and other countries deploy these weapons around Europe, Eastern Europe, and Russia, Russia also has the right to deploy similar weapons in Crimea.
Seventeenth, the UN Security Council and the Russian-Ukrainian Committee for the Restoration of Peace and Normalization of Relations are responsible for the interpretation and implementation of the terms of this agreement.
Eighteenth, this agreement is in seven copies, which are in Russian, Ukrainian, French, German, Chinese and English. The seven versions of the agreement are equally valid. published in the media. Among them, Germany, France, China, and the Quartet of the Security Council are the mediators as intermediary witnesses. Ukraine and Russia are both parties to the agreement.
Nineteenth, the agreement will be signed by the presidents of the two countries and will take effect immediately after it is passed by the parliament.
Signed by the Russian Foreign Minister
Signed by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine
German foreign minister signed
Signed by the French Foreign Minister
Chinese foreign minister signed
United Nations Representative: Signature
Signed by Russian President Vladimir Putin
Signed by Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky
March 17 , 2022 Ad