Stephen Hawking's Final Book Says There's 'No Possibility' of God in Our Universe

[rajabkisauti]

Mungu angekuwepo,(mjuzi wa yote, mwenye uwezo wote na upendo wote) tusingekunya wala kufa.

Tunakunya na kufa kwa sababu Mungu hayupo.

Unaelewa hilo?

Kufa Na kunya ni ishara Safi ya kuwepo kwa muumba

 

[schlumberger]

In response to Stephen Hawkings on assertion that there is no possibility of God in the Universe, I just want to tell him that the "Big Bang" that was triggered to cause the universe to exist today as he himself affirms was triggered by the Almighty God.

where do we get this proof?

QUR'AN SURAT AL-AMBIYAA 21:30 EXPLAINS:

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Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, and We separated them (asunder)? and We made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe? (Qur'an 21:30)

We see from above verse which existed 1,400 yrs back and before even scientists started to explore the vastness of our Universe as we see it now, God described to us the whole universe (Earths, stars, skies, black holes, galaxies and all the like) were joined together in a single entity. Then God the Almighty, with all His Majestic power cause it to explode (triggered the bullet) (fafataqnahumaa).
Let us ponder upon the truth that God the Almighty is Himself the "time"! He cause the time to happen. Everything we count now means had the beginning. Seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, years, decades etc must have the beginning. And who is there to cause the begining? Certainly is Him!
Unfortunately scientists and their explorations is not mainly aimed to cause things to happen but rather to explain what has happened based on hypothesis and investigation based on some tests! And their findings keeps changing based on time. That's it!
God, the Almighty cause things to happen and He knows the ultimate fate of everything.

And He made from water every living things!!! Who is there to deny these facts??? Hawking??? You??? Absolutely Not!
He caused the Big Bang to happen and GUIDED its aftermath after that. That's why Galaxies crosses each others without distorting the shapes. Moons, planets and stars and other heavenly Satellites in the skies keeps revolving each others in their same elliptical paths (orbits).
God says
(Qur'an 21:33)
And it is He who created the night and the day and the Sun and the Moon; all [heavenly bodies] in an orbit are swimming.

So it is illogical to deny the presence of God unless your are obsessed by your own inferiority complex.

 

[schlumberger]

THE OPPOSITE OF "BIG BANG " IS "BIG CRUNCH"

Big Crunch
In physical cosmology, the Big Crunch is one possible scenario for the ultimate fate of the universe, in which the metric expansion of space eventually reverses and the universe recollapses, ultimately ending as a black hole singularity or causing a reformation of the universe starting with another big bang.

Again this is the fact from scientific point of view as well as Qur'anic point of view. The Qur'an tells us that the Universes is constantly expanding as the result of the BIG BANG that happen billions of billions years ago. Anything that keeps expanding has Its "Elastic Limit" where the force that keeps the elements towards the origin tends to cease and you know what happen? That objects will certainly break!
This is what is going to happen to our own Universe. The cosmic forces that keeps the celestial bodies in the sky will ultimately cease since the universe is still expanding (Proved by American scientists - Edwin Hubble, Hubble space Telescope). Also try to Google: Expansion of the universe .

Almighty God says in the Holy Book - Qur'an Karim (Al- Ambiyaa 21:104)

The Day when We will fold the heavens like the folding of a [written] sheet for the records. As We began the first creation, We will repeat it. [That is] a promise binding upon Us. Indeed, We will do it.

This is the Big Crunch!. End of everything!

And this will not happen as the cause of nature or by law of nature as Stephen Hawking is asserting. Nature have neither created anything and will never do. But the one who caused the first creation will cause the ultimatum of his creation. The question is, will He again cause another Big Bang?? who knows??. If He will but you and me will never be there!!!! Be alerted and embrace Islam as it is ahead of science!

 

[Kiranga]

This issue will continue to be an endless merry-go-round of the same 'ol same 'ol until it is conclusively settled, once and for all.

It is the world's greatest mystery, as far as I'm concerned.

If you want to nitpick anything to death, you can equally go on an endless merry-go-round.

Because there is nothing that can be decided conclusively 100%, because any proof will have assumptions.

So, the question becomes, where do you draw the line?

If you want to build a bridge, and you need to know the value of Pi in decimal notation, there is no conclusion to that value, it does not terminate.

So essentially, you will not know the complete value of Pi in decimal notation.

But, what is sufficient to satisfy you that the bridge will not collapse? Four to five significant figures is probably sufficient.

So what do you do? Do you build a bridge using a Pi value with five significant figures?

Or do you say that the exact value of Pi in decimal is unknowable and a bridge cannot be built?

 

[Kiranga]

na tungekuwa hatunyi/hatufi
Bila Shaka ungekuja na hoja kuwa mbona hatunyi/hatufi
Ndugu yangu
nyie wote non believers hamnaga hoja zaidi ya kusema
ooh mbona hakuna perfection
mara mbona hajitokezi
tatizo lako unataka hoja zako ndizo zionekane
"MUNGU ni mwema na anapenda wampendao,na wote wamtafutao kwa bidii HAKIKA watamwona"
sasa kama wewe hutaki kumatafuta MUNGU unadhani utamwona wapi??!
lakini ndugu shetani amekamata ufahamu wako
Na mbaya ZAIDI unadhani huo ni Utashi na Akili yako.

Ulimwengu wowote ambao mtu anaweza kuhoji chochote cha Mungu, hauna Mungu mjuzi wa yote, mwenye uwezo wote na upendo wote.

Mungu huyo anatakiwa awe so cool kiasi kwamba, anakupa majibu ya maswali yote unayoweza kuyafikiria na kupaswa kuyafahamu kabla hujahoji, na usiyopaswa kuyafahamu anakuficha usiweze hata kuyahoji.

Mungu huyo kukupa maswali ambayo huna majibu yake ni emotional abuse.

Mungu wenu mjuzi wa yote, mwenye uwezo wote na upendo wote anafanya emotional abuse?

Unaweza kuthibitisha Mungu yupo?

 

[Kiranga]

Hahaha mzeee excuse accepted. Mkwanja ni muhimu sana. Hongera kwa kufanikisha.

Majibu yako;

1. Kunya ni tendo la kutoa waste product. Sahihi kabisa. Hapo maana yake ni kwamba mwili unafanya tendo la kujisafisha baada ya kuchakata nutrients na kubakisha zile muhimu and needed for the body. Isn't that glorious?! Kuhusu maradhi yatokanayo na kinyesi - hiyo ni kulingana na mazingira. Kinyesi ni product nzuri sana, endapo kitazagaa ovyo huenda kikaleta usumbufu (soma maradhi), lakini umeshafikiria faida yake endapo kitawekwa kwenye matumizi sahihi mfano kuzalishia biogas, mbolea n.k.? Mungu fundi sana boss.

Hata hujaelwa point yangu.

Hujaelewa hujaelewa hujaelewa.

Thermodinamically, in engineering, systemic waste ni failure in efficiency. Unaelewa hili?

100% efficient system haina waste product, unaelewa hili?

Mungu alishindwa kutengeneza mwili ulio 100% efficient?

2. Tendo la kufa huleta huzuni na kutenganisha wapendanao. Naam, nalo umenena vyema kabisa. Lakini kwa kuwa tunazungumzia mambo ya kiroho, tendo hilo kwa waaminio linaleta huzuni ya muda ila faraja yake ni ya milele. Na hiyo ni kwa sababu, kufa ni njia ya kwenda kwa Muumba ambako huko kuna makazi na makutano ya kudumu. Kwa kuwa hiyo ni njia ya wote, basi tumaini la kweli ni kwamba wapendanao wote watakutana huko na Mola wao kuishi na kufurahia. Kisayansi, mwili wa kiumbe hai uliokufa una faida nyingi sana kwenye ardhi. Mambo ya natural recycling, Zisome baadhi hapa Why burying loved ones in unmarked graves could save wildlife

Halafu, uamuzi wa Mungu kuumba kifo na ufufuo ni alama tosha ya kuonesha UWEZO NA UKUU alionao Bwana Mkubwa.

Yupo kweli. Sio hadithi tu!

Unaweza kuthibitisha roho, pepo, Mungu vipo?

Unahalalisha uongo mmoja kwa uongo mwingine.

Mungu alishindwa kutupa bata hapa duniani? Kwa nini unahamisha mjadala uende kwenye habari za makazi ya kudumu ambayo huwezi kuthibitisha wakati swali langu si la makazi ya kudumu, ni la hapa duniani. Mimi sikubali kwamba kuna pepo. Habari za pepo ni uongo.

Unaweza kuthibitisha pepo ipo?

 

[Hussein Massanza]

Hata hujaelwa point yangu.

Hujaelewa hujaelewa hujaelewa.

Thermodinamically, in engineering, systemic waste ni failure in efficiency. Unaelewa hili?

100% efficient system haina waste product, unaelewa hili?

Mungu alishindwa kutengeneza mwili ulio 100% efficient?



Unaweza kuthibitisha roho, pepo, Mungu vipo?

Unahalalisha uongo mmoja kwa uongo mwingine.

Mungu alishindwa kutupa bata hapa duniani? Kwa nini unahamisha mjadala uende kwenye habari za makazi ya kudumu ambayo huwezi kuthibitisha wakati swali langu si la makazi ya kudumu, ni la hapa duniani. Mimi sikubali kwamba kuna pepo. Habari za pepo ni uongo.

Unaweza kuthibitisha pepo ipo?

1. Engineering ya Mungu imefanyika kwa mahesabu ya interdependence kati ya creatures na nature.. Ndio maana hata ukitazama ecosystem unaona chain ilivyo kimkakati - au huo nao utauita udhaifu?

2. Labda useme tu unahitaji uthibitisho gani. Mungu yupo kupitia ishara zake. Kwa mfano, tazama yale madhara yanayoshindikana tiba hospitalini lakini yanaponyeka kwa kutumia neno la Mungu.

Hujawahi kushuhudia miracles zozote ambazo hata kisayansi ni ngumu kuthibitika? Mfano, hujawahi kuona Mtu anapandisha mashetani na kumudu kuongea kwa ufasaha lugha ambayo hana hata ujuzi nayo?

Kama bado, Mungu akujaalie Siku ukutane na miracle yoyote maybe it will change your way of thinking mzee baba..

 

[Kiranga]

another theory like " the big bang " , Hawking was angry at God for not healing him, for letting his wife be taken, for ruining his family that's why he endlessly argued there is no God. And he knew some gullible earthians will play along. He was an angry crippled Englishman. He knew by confusing you with physics mumbo jumbo you'll end up denying God's existence. That's another theory, since we can't prove there was actually the big bang.

Mazee.

Ingekuwa sababu ni hiyo tu, kungekuwa hakuna mabilionea, wenye afya nzuri na maisha bomba wasioamini Mungu.

Hicho ulichofanya ni cheap shot. Kinaitwa "ad hominem attack".

Umeshindwa kupinga hoja ya mtu, unamshambulia mtu mwenyewe.

Thibitisha Mungu yupo, ukithibitisha, hutahitaji theories.

Mimi naishi vizuri,nina afya nzuri, sina matatizo yasiyo ya kawaida, na simkubali Mungu. Kuna mabilionea wana afya na maisha mazuri hawamkubali Mungu.

Ingekuwa sababu ni ugonjwa tu, basi wazima wote wangeamini Mungu.

Check your faulty logic.

 

[Kiranga]

1. Engineering ya Mungu imefanyika kwa mahesabu ya interdependence kati ya creatures na nature.. Ndio maana hata ukitazama ecosystem unaona chain ilivyo kimkakati - au huo nao utauita udhaifu?.

Mungu angekuwepo, kungekuwa hakuna entropic increase in the world, global warming, pandemics, earthquakes, tsunamis, desertification visingekuwepo.

Mungu angekuwepo, ecosystem isingekuwa na food chain ya mwenye nguvu kumla asiye na nguvu, hiyo ni injustice kwa asiye na Mungu, inakuwaje Mungu mwenye uwezo wote, ujuzi wote na upendo wote aweke ecosystem isiyo na justice kwa asiye na nguvu?

2. Labda useme tu unahitaji uthibitisho gani. Mungu yupo kupitia ishara zake. Kwa mfano, tazama yale madhara yanayoshindikana tiba hospitalini lakini yanaponyeka kwa kutumia neno la Mungu.

Hospitali kuwepo ni ushahidi Mungu hayupo. Mungu angekuwepo, kungekuwa hakuna hospitali, kwa sababu kungekuwa hakuna ugonjwa.

Unamsifia Mungu kwa kutibu ugonjwa wakati alikuwa na uwezo wa kuumba ulimwengu ambao ugonjwa hauwezekani kuwepo?

Unamsifia mwizi kaiba mabilioni, unasema ni mtakatifu sana, eti kwa sababu karudisha mia aliyoiba (ambayo ataiiba tena).

Yale mabilioni ambayo hajarudisha vipi?Wwale mabilioni waliokufa vipi? Na huyo aliyepona hatakufa?

Huyo Mungu yupo au hadithi tu?

Hujawahi kushuhudia miracles zozote ambazo hata kisayansi ni ngumu kuthibitika? Mfano, hujawahi kuona Mtu anapandisha mashetani na kumudu kuongea kwa ufasaha lugha ambayo hana hata ujuzi nayo?

Miracle ni nini? Vitu vingi tusivyovielewa tunaviita miracles, maana yake hatuvielewi, hilo halithibitishi Mungu yupo.

Mababu zetu waliamini Wazungu ni miungu, kwa sababu wanatabiri jua kupatwa, wana gramophone zinatoa muziki bila mtu kupiga ala.

Wwaliona muujiza. Sasa hilo lilimaanisha kutabiri kupatwa kwa jua na gramophone kupiga muziki ni muujiza? Hayo yalithibitisha Mungu yupo?

Kama bado, Mungu akujaalie Siku ukutane na miracle yoyote maybe it will change your way of thinking mzee baba..

Thibitisha Mungu yupo kwanza.

 

[Hussein Massanza]

Labda tu nikutakie wakati mwema.

Mungu angekuwepo, kungekuwa hakuna entropic increase in the world, global warming, pandemics, earthquakes, tsunamis, desertification visingekuwepo.

Mungu angekuwepo, ecosystem isingekuwa na food chain ya mwenye nguvu kumla asiye na nguvu, hiyo ni injustice kwa asiye na Mungu, inakuwaje Mungu mwenye uwezo wote, ujuzi wote na upendo wote aweke ecosystem isiyo na justice kwa asiye na nguvu?



Hospitali kuwepo ni ushahidi Mungu hayupo. Mungu angekuwepo, kungekuwa hakuna hospitali, kwa sababu kungekuwa hakuna ugonjwa.

Unamsifia Mungu kwa kutibu ugonjwa wakati alikuwa na uwezo wa kuumba ulimwengu ambao ugonjwa hauwezekani kuwepo?

Unamsifia mwizi kaiba mabilioni, unasema ni mtakatifu sana, eti kwa sababu karudisha mia aliyoiba (ambayo ataiiba tena).

Yale mabilioni ambayo hajarudisha vipi?Wwale mabilioni waliokufa vipi? Na huyo aliyepona hatakufa?

Huyo Mungu yupo au hadithi tu?



Miracle ni nini? Vitu vingi tusivyovielewa tunaviita miracles, maana yake hatuvielewi, hilo halithibitishi Mungu yupo.

Mababu zetu waliamini Wazungu ni miungu, kwa sababu wanatabiri jua kupatwa, wana gramophone zinatoa muziki bila mtu kupiga ala.

Wwaliona muujiza. Sasa hilo lilimaanisha kutabiri kupatwa kwa jua na gramophone kupiga muziki ni muujiza? Hayo yalithibitisha Mungu yupo?


Thibitisha Mungu yupo kwanza.

 

[Inferior Complex]

Ulimwengu wowote ambao mtu anaweza kuhoji chochote cha Mungu, hauna Mungu mjuzi wa yote, mwenye uwezo wote na upendo wote.

Mungu huyo anatakiwa awe so cool kiasi kwamba, anakupa majibu ya maswali yote unayoweza kuyafikiria na kupaswa kuyafahamu kabla hujahoji, na usiyopaswa kuyafahamu anakuficha usiweze hata kuyahoji.

Mungu huyo kukupa maswali ambayo huna majibu yake ni emotional abuse.

Mungu wenu mjuzi wa yote, mwenye uwezo wote na upendo wote anafanya emotional abuse?

Unaweza kuthibitisha Mungu yupo?

Mungu mbona anajidhibitisha kwa yote yale?!
ndiyo naweza kudhibitisha kuwa Mungu.yupo na anatenda kazi
swali.unataka nikudhibitishie kwa LIPI/Kwa njia ipi?

 

[Alvin A.]

Warumi 1:18-25

18 Ghadhabu ya Mungu imedhihirishwa kutoka mbinguni dhidi ya uasi na uovu wa wanadamu ambao kwa uovu wao wanauficha ukweli usijulikane.
19 Kwa maana yote yanayoweza kujulikana kumhusu Mungu ni dhahiri kwao kwa sababu Mungu mwenyewe ameyaweka wazi.
20 Tangu Mungu alipoumba ulimwengu, asili ya Mungu asiyeonekana kwa macho, yaani uwezo wake wa milele na Uungu wake, umedhihirika wazi wazi kutokana na vitu alivyoviumba. Kwa hiyo watu hawana kisingizio.
21 Ingawa walimjua Mungu, hawakumpa heshima na utukufu anaostahili wala kumshukuru. Badala yake, fikira zao zimekuwa batili na akili zao zilizopumbaa zikatiwa giza.
22 Wakijidai kuwa ni werevu, wakawa wajinga.
23 Wakauacha utukufu wa Mungu aishiye milele wakageukia sanamu zinazofanana na mwanadamu ambaye hufa, na ndege na wanyama na viumbe vitambaavyo.
24 Kwa hiyo, Mungu aliwaacha waendelee kufuata tamaa mbaya za mioyo yao na kutenda matendo ya unajisi nakufanyiana mambo ya aibu katika miili yao.
25 Hii ni kwa sababu walikataa ukweli ku husu Mungu wakaamua kuamini uongo; wakaabudu na kutumikia kiumbe badala ya Muumba ahimidiwaye milele! Amina.

 

[Kiranga]

kama hujanielewa usinge ni quote
kama ume quote na kunijibu it's seems umeelewa namzungumzia nani

Logical fallacy of wrong oversimplification. Unalazimisha.

Si kweli kwamba kila unacho quote umeelewa.

Si kweli kwamba kila usicho quote hujakielewa.

Pengine unacho quote hujakielewa unataka kukielewa

Na pengine ulichokielewa huna haja ya kuki quote.

 

[Kiranga]

Mungu mbona anajidhibitisha kwa yote yale?!
ndiyo naweza kudhibitisha kuwa Mungu.yupo na anatenda kazi
swali.unataka nikudhibitishie kwa LIPI/Kwa njia ipi?

Wewe hujui hata tofauti ya kuthibitisha na kudhibitisha.

 

[Kiranga]

na tungekuwa hatunyi/hatufi
Bila Shaka ungekuja na hoja kuwa mbona hatunyi/hatufi
Ndugu yangu
nyie wote non believers hamnaga hoja zaidi ya kusema
ooh mbona hakuna perfection
mara mbona hajitokezi
tatizo lako unataka hoja zako ndizo zionekane
"MUNGU ni mwema na anapenda wampendao,na wote wamtafutao kwa bidii HAKIKA watamwona"
sasa kama wewe hutaki kumatafuta MUNGU unadhani utamwona wapi??!
lakini ndugu shetani amekamata ufahamu wako
Na mbaya ZAIDI unadhani huo ni Utashi na Akili yako.

Hujathibitisha Mungu hayupo.

Na hujaelewa sehemu yoyote ambayo yeyote anaweza kuwa na swali lolote kuhusu Mungu mjuzi wa yote, mwenye uwezo wote na upendo wote, Mungu huyo hayupo.

 

[Kiranga]

Kiranga,yours is the old tool of a defensive idealist,What I see here is not a competent opponent,I rather see a humble believer who is somewhat skeptical.Here me when I tell you this,Nature of Reality is subjective but the truth as much as we may all wish can never be subjective it will always be objective.The existence of God can not be refuted by an inability to prove his existence for we the enquirers exist within the same realm of Gods Existence and we are therefore a part of His being.If by affirming our existence and attributing it to some scientific explanation which only fits our current reality we believe we can challenge the proponents of Gods existence then we are surviving on a weak logic as intellectuals.We must acknowledge our limitation in comprehending his existence and from there seek not to prove his existence but to acknowledge his existence.

Unasema mimi ni defensive idealist.

Unaelewa kwamba anayeamini na kutetea kuwepo kwa Mungu mjuzi wa yote, mwenye uwezo wote na upendo wote, asiyeonekana, asiyepimika, asiye na logical consistency ni idealist kuliko anayepinga kuwepo Mungu huyo?

 

[General Mangi]

Mungu angekuwepo, Magu asingekalia kiti cha Urais hata dakika 3

 

[Kiranga]

Ndo mana muhubiri alisema kila jambo na wakati wake. Sasa wewe katika umri wa miaka 19 ukaanza kusoma mavitu ya juu kabisa kuzidi uwezo wako wa kufikiri, ona sasa madhara yake yanavyokusumbua na kukutesa nafsi yako huku ukubwani.

Ulikuwa hujakomaa kiroho ndo mana ukawa mwepesi kupigwa zongo na ibirisi uamini anachotaka yeye uamini na kweli ukaamini, Pole sana mzee.

Thibitisha Mungu yupo.

Thibitisha roho ipo.

Thibitisha pepo ipo.

Nijue unasema kweli, na si uongo.

 

[Kiranga]

Mungu angekuwepo, Magu asingekalia kiti cha Urais hata dakika 3

Na hata Magu mwenyewe anajua hilo, ndiyo maana anaendesha mambo kigangwe.

 

[Behaviourist]

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