Uthibitisho wa uwepo wa Mungu kisayansi

[Muccigang]

Weak points mungu wa design gan unae msemea huyu wa hizi dini za mchongo au labda nguvu ya asili ndo ipo na kwan lazima iwe mungu jamani lazma na yeye awe na chanzo kama kila kitu dunian kinachanzo.

 

[Venus Star]

Yaani ulimwengu mzima bila energy hauwezi kuexist.

Kumbuka even in Universe there is dark energy inayo hold universe.

Nilikuwa namsikiluza professor Michio Kaku akisema Everything ni Energy.

So what is your point?

Yes. Michio huwa anaongelea sana string theory.

My point is siku tukijua what is energy we will know everything about existence.
But now tuendelee kusema energy is super existence. Some beliefs wanaweza wakaita Allah, God etc.

 

[Infropreneur]

Yes. Michio huwa anaongelea sana string theory.

My point is siku tukijua what is energy we will know everything about existence.
But now tuendelee kusema energy is super existence. Some beliefs wanaweza wakaita Allah, God etc.

How can Energy be the cause of itself?

If Energy cannot be created or destroyed, ilitokea tu from no where?

How can Nothing from No where, Be the cause of itself and its own existence to Somewhere???

 

[MWANAHARAMU]

Yes. Michio huwa anaongelea sana string theory.

My point is siku tukijua what is energy we will know everything about existence.
But now tuendelee kusema energy is super existence. Some beliefs wanaweza wakaita Allah, God etc.

Hivi unajua energy huwa inaloose kiasi Fulani ikiwa Converted?
Au ikiwa inasafiri au ikiwa inatumika?

So kwa mujibu wa mtazamo wako na sifa za Mungu mnazompa haiwezekani ukaequate Mungu= Energy.

Unless awe insane person pekee

 

[Venus Star]

How can Energy be the cause of itself?

If Energy cannot be created or destroyed, ilitokea tu from no where?

How can Nothing from No where, Be the cause of itself and its own existence to Somewhere???

Sasa hii ndiyo sayansi mzee. Ndiyo mambo yalivyo.

Na everyday tunaitumia hiyo energy. And without energy nothing will exist.

So we can say the issue about energy, is beyond of our understanding at this moment.

 

[Infropreneur]

Sasa hii ndiyo sayansi mzee. Ndiyo mambo yalivyo.

Na everyday tunaitumia hiyo energy. And without energy nothing will exist.

So we can say the issue about energy, is beyond of our understanding at this moment.

Mimi huwa nasema haya mambo ya Energy na Mungu ni kama illusions na dhana za kufikirika tu,Hazipo.

Binadamu mpaka saa hatujui tuli kujaje duniani, Sio kisayansi Sio Kimungu bado hatuna uhakika na uthibitisho kamili wa kipi kinatuweka hapa duniani..

Bado tuna ji shangaa shangaa tu....[emoji23][emoji23]

 

[hateeb10]

Nimeshaelezea cell imetokea wapi?
Ila Dunia unavyoiona Sasa sio ilivyokuwa 3.5 billion years a go.

Kutoka kwenye evolution perspective
Kulikuwa na pool of amino acid na ndiyo condition iliyofanya first cell to appear.

Naomba nikuuluze swali: kwa nini maisha ya Dunia ni carbon based badala ya silicon based?

Kuhusu Cell, kiakili tu ya kawaida Cell Ili iweze kuunda kitu inabidi iwe kwenye conditions zinazosupport Uundaji.
Mfano, chukulia mfano wa Shahawa uliotoa mwanzo.... Shahawa ukizimwaga kwenye shuka lako/kwenye mchanga atatokea mtoto?

Maisha ya Dunia ni Carbon based kwa sababu, Carbon inaweza kuunda molekuli mbalimbali zikiwemo amino asidi, ambazo ni muhimu katika ujenzi wa protini za seli, na asidi ya nucleic kama DNA na RNA ambazo ni muhimu katika kubeba information za maumbile.

Kwa upande wa Silicon ni kwamba haiwezi Kuunda molekuli muhimu kwa ajili ya uhai.

Ndiyo maana wanasayansi wao wanaamini kuwa maisha ya duniani yamekuwa carbon-based kwa sababu ya uwezo wa carbon wa kuunda molecules mbalimbali zenye utata wa kikemia zinazohitajika kwa uhai.

 

[Venus Star]

Hivi unajua energy huwa inaloose kiasi Fulani ikiwa Converted?
Au ikiwa inasafiri au ikiwa inatumika?

So kwa mujibu wa mtazamo wako na sifa za Mungu mnazompa haiwezekani ukaequate Mungu= Energy.

Unless awe insane person pekee

Dah!! Unless hujui physics mzee. Energy haipotei kama unachange from one state to another let say
Energy A = 200J

Change from A to B
A = B + heat Energy.
Soma vizuri The laws of thermodynamics.



Thermodynamics Laws Explained.



The laws of thermodynamics are a set of principles that govern the behavior of energy and matter in the universe. There are four laws of thermodynamics, with the first three being the most well-known and important.

First Law of Thermodynamics: Conservation of Energy
The first law of thermodynamics states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, only converted from one form to another. In other words, the total energy of a closed system (such as the universe) remains constant. This law is also known as the law of conservation of energy.

Second Law of Thermodynamics: Entropy
The second law of thermodynamics states that the entropy of an isolated system (one that does not exchange matter or energy with its surroundings) tends to increase over time, meaning that the system becomes more disordered and less useful. This law is also known as the law of entropy.

Third Law of Thermodynamics: Absolute Zero
The third law of thermodynamics states that as the temperature of a system approaches absolute zero (0 Kelvin or -273.15 degrees Celsius), the entropy of the system approaches a minimum value. This law is also known as the law of unattainability.

Fourth Law of Thermodynamics: Zeroth Law
The fourth law of thermodynamics is the zeroth law, which states that if two systems are in thermal equilibrium with a third system, they are in thermal equilibrium with each other.

Together, the laws of thermodynamics provide a framework for understanding the behavior of energy and matter in the universe. They are fundamental to many fields of science and engineering, including chemistry, physics, and mechanical engineering.

 

[hateeb10]

Hao wachache aliowapa kina nani?
Mimi ninacho jua hakuna Mungu/ mungu nje ya mawazo ya binadamu.

Hivyo hakuna chochote, yoyote wa kumpa elimu mtu kuhusu ulimwengu nje ya delusional ya Wanadamu.

Hujaelewa Mkuu,... Nimesema kwa watu wote tumepewa uchache wa elimu(ujuzi) na sio kwamba watu wachache ndiyo wamepewa elimu.

 

[holy spirit]

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Mkuu, Human being is a work of art& engineering.... Yani Mtu alivyo tu inaonyesha kuna ufundi ambao umefanya mpaka ukaona mifumo yote kwenye mwili wa binadamu kuanzia:-
1. Respiratory system
2. Digestive system,
3. Circulatory System
4. Nervous System
5. Endocrine system
6. Muscular system
7. Skeletal system
8. Immune system
9. Urinary system
10. Reproductive system.


Yani, Ingetosha kabisa kuangalia mwili wako na jinsi unavyofanya kazi kujua kwamba kuna DESIGNER aliyeweka mifumo yote hiyo., Au kama unahisi mwili wa binadamu na jinsi unavyofanya kazi umejitokeza tu from nowhere, let's conclude that hata robots tunazoziona zimejitokeza tu from nowhere..... Does it make sense?

Kama complexity ya binadamu inakufanya ukubali kuwa aliumbwa kwanini unamtoa mungu kwenye hii equation? Mungu pia atahitaji designer kwasababu, in order to design something you must have a mind that is functionally complex than whatever you want to design (uwezo wako wa akili lazima uwe mkubwa kuliko unachotaka ku design)

Something cannot come from nothing ndo unachojaribu kusema

If God is something basi na yeye pia anahitaji designer tutajikuta kwenye endless chain ya mamiungu yanayoumba mamiungu mengine

If God is nothing, then he cannot exist

 

[Venus Star]

Mimi huwa nasema haya mambo ya Energy na Mungu ni kama illusions na dhana za kufikirika tu,Hazipo.

Binadamu mpaka saa hatujui tuli kujaje duniani, Sio kisayansi Sio Kimungu bado hatuna uhakika na uthibitisho kamili wa kipi kinatuweka hapa duniani..

Bado tuna ji shangaa shangaa tu....[emoji23][emoji23]

Issue ya energy is not illusion mzee. Energy inatumika uendesha magari. Au mzee unapochoma mafuta kwenye gari na kuendesha unatumia nini?

Energy exists and we use it everyday but we don't know it.

Energy ipo mzee wangu na tunaitumia kila siku. Lakini hatuijui.
Kila siku tunajifunza namna ya kuitumia. Na maendeleo tunayoyaona ni matokeo ya kujua namna ya kuitumia energy.

 

[hateeb10]

Huyo Originator alikuwepo wapi kabla ya ku design vitu?

Au Hakuwepo halafu Akawepo from No Where?

How can Nothing from No where be the cause of itself to Somewhere???

Originator hayupo limited na time, space and matter..

Yeye ni Omnipresent (being present in all places at all times),.... Hivyo basi alikuepo na yupo kila mahala!


Hivyo maswali yako yamejifia.

 

[Venus Star]

Thermodynamics is the branch of physics that studies the relationship between heat, energy, and work. One of the key principles of thermodynamics is the law of conservation of energy, which states that energy cannot be created or destroyed but can only be converted from one form to another.

When we apply this principle to the universe as a whole, we can see that the total energy of the universe is a constant. This is often referred to as the first law of thermodynamics, and it has important implications for our understanding of the evolution and behavior of the universe.

The universe is a vast system of matter and energy that has been expanding since the Big Bang. As the universe expands, its energy is distributed across an ever-increasing volume, resulting in a gradual decrease in the overall density of energy. However, while the density of energy may decrease, the total amount of energy in the universe remains constant.

In addition to the conservation of energy, thermodynamics also provides insights into the behavior of the universe through the second law of thermodynamics, which states that the entropy of a closed system tends to increase over time. Entropy is a measure of the disorder or randomness of a system, and it is closely related to the concept of energy dissipation. When energy is dissipated in a closed system, it tends to become more disordered and less useful, resulting in an increase in entropy.

In the context of the universe, this means that as the universe expands and energy is distributed across a larger volume, the overall entropy of the universe tends to increase over time. This has important implications for the ultimate fate of the universe, as it suggests that the universe will eventually reach a state of maximum entropy, where all energy is evenly distributed and there is no further possibility for work or energy transfer.

Overall, thermodynamics provides a powerful framework for understanding the behavior of energy in the universe, from the conservation of energy to the gradual increase in entropy over time. By studying these principles, scientists can gain a deeper understanding of the evolution and fate of the universe, as well as develop new technologies and processes that harness the power of energy in efficient and sustainable ways.

 

[hateeb10]

Kama complexity ya binadamu inakufanya ukubali kuwa aliumbwa kwanini unamtoa mungu kwenye hii equation? Mungu pia atahitaji designer kwasababu, in order to design something you must have a mind that is functionally complex than whatever you want to design (uwezo wako wa akili lazima uwe mkubwa kuliko unachotaka ku design)

Something cannot come from nothing ndo unachojaribu kusema

If God is something basi na yeye pia anahitaji designer tutajikuta kwenye endless chain ya mamiungu yanayoumba mamiungu mengine

If God is nothing, then he cannot exist

Unajua kwanini Mungu anatoka kwenye hiyo Equation ya kuumbwa?

Jibu ni hili :- Kwasababu Yeye ndiyo Ameumba kila kitu.. (Ukisema ameumbwa basi huyo Sio Mungu tena)


Hivyo hakuna chochote wala yoyote aliyemuumba Mungu, Maana Ili chochote au yoyote amuumbe Mungu inabidi aumbwe na Mungu kwanza... So kwenye hiyo Equation Mungu kwa Sifa zake hawezi kuingia labda tuzitoe hizo Sifa.

 

[MWANAHARAMU]

Mimi huwa nasema haya mambo ya Energy na Mungu ni kama illusions na dhana za kufikirika tu,Hazipo.

Binadamu mpaka saa hatujui tuli kujaje duniani, Sio kisayansi Sio Kimungu bado hatuna uhakika na uthibitisho kamili wa kipi kinatuweka hapa duniani..

Bado tuna ji shangaa shangaa tu....[emoji23][emoji23]

Lakini Kuna Moja ni kweli kwamba maisha hayapo duniani tu.

 

[Captain 666]

Mlichoshindwa ni kuelezea Kiswahili tu

 

[hateeb10]

Mimi huwa nasema haya mambo ya Energy na Mungu ni kama illusions na dhana za kufikirika tu,Hazipo.

Binadamu mpaka saa hatujui tuli kujaje duniani, Sio kisayansi Sio Kimungu bado hatuna uhakika na uthibitisho kamili wa kipi kinatuweka hapa duniani..

Bado tuna ji shangaa shangaa tu....[emoji23][emoji23]

Hahhhh kumbe upo kwenye dillema.... Tafuta sehemu ya Kushika tu Mkuu🙌🏼

 

[Ziroseventytwo]

Nawasalimia wana JF wote.

Leo nitaongelea uthibitisho wa kisayansi uwepo wa Mungu. Na ninapenda tujadili hapa kisayansi zaidi. Pamoja na kuunganisha imani mbalimbali zilizopo.

Sipendi niseme kwamba jina Mungu au neno Mungu ndio sahihi katika kitu ninachotaka kuongelea. Lakini nitaongelea kwamba kuna nguvu ipo ambayo hatuwezi kuielezea kwa namna ya mambo yanayoonekana.

Bila kupoteza muda naanza kama ifuatavyo.

LAW OF CONSERVATION OF ENERGY

states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed - only converted from one form of energy to another.

Kabla ya kuendelea kuongelea Law kwanza tunatakiwa tujiulize energy ni nini?
Energy is the ability to do work - Nishati ni uwezo wa kufanya kazi.

Kaitka vitu vyote vilivyopo ndani yake kunakuwa na Energy. Hata kama kiwe kimetulia.

Mpaka sasa wanasayansi wanajua namna ya kuitumia energy. Lakini kupata kujua energy ni kitu gani bado utafiti unaendelea.

Mwiliunahitaji chakula na ndani ya chakula kuna chemical energy ambayo hutumiwa ndani ya mwili na cells ilikuufanya mwili uweze kufanya kazi. Kazi zote zinazofanyika kwenye mwili energy ndiyo inayafanya zifanyike.

Pasipo energy hata existence ya kitu chochote kisingekuwepo.

Source of Energy

Wale waliosoma Quantum Physics au waliosoma Particle Physics
Hapa utasoma Fundamental particles and force inayohusu matter and radiation.

utakuja kuona ndani ya Atom kuna particle zipo ambazo ndani yake kuna energy.

Lakini utakapoenda ndani zaidi utakutana na vibration (Frequencies) ya very small particles.
Sasa ukienda zaidi kufanya utafiti hizo simall particles zimeundwa na nini. Jibu utapata void

WHAT IS VOID

: opening, gap. : empty space : emptiness, vacuum. : the quality or state of being without something .

Hiyo ndiyo tafsiri ya neno Void.

Je Void inaweza ikatengeneza haya maajabu yote tunayoyaona?

Nuclear Energy, Fossil Energy, Solar Energy, Electric Energy etc? Au kuna The very Powerful Existence iliyo juu ya uwezo wetu?

Basi kwa tafsiri hii naweza nikasema The Powerful Existence Beyond of our thinking which is the source of Energy is so called God or Allah in our understanding.

Hiyo ni Introduction ya thread yangu hii. Nitaendelea kuenda ndani zaidi kwa evidences za kisayansi.....

Venus Star watu wengi hawapingi kutokuwepo kwa Mungu. Ni kwamba, hii dunia ina chanzo. Na hiko chanzo ndio watu wanaita Mungu na majina mengi. The force behind all power is energy.
Shida hapo ni dini. Haswa hizi dini zilizokuja kwa majahazi. Ukristu na Uislam. Hapo nsio kwenye shida.
Sisi wachagga kabla ya kuja kwa ukristu tulikuwa tuna Mungu wetu. Anaitwa RUWA. Huyu alikuwa akiombwa wakati wa shida tu. Wakati wa magonjwa, njaa,nk.
Ila huyu Mungu wa sasa anaombwa kila siku. Wengine five times a day. Kwa hiyo nachokiona mimi ni kwamba huyu Mungu wa kwenye Quruan na Bibilia watu wanamchezea sana.

 

[Ziroseventytwo]

Nawasalimia wana JF wote.

Leo nitaongelea uthibitisho wa kisayansi uwepo wa Mungu. Na ninapenda tujadili hapa kisayansi zaidi. Pamoja na kuunganisha imani mbalimbali zilizopo.

Sipendi niseme kwamba jina Mungu au neno Mungu ndio sahihi katika kitu ninachotaka kuongelea. Lakini nitaongelea kwamba kuna nguvu ipo ambayo hatuwezi kuielezea kwa namna ya mambo yanayoonekana.

Bila kupoteza muda naanza kama ifuatavyo.

LAW OF CONSERVATION OF ENERGY

states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed - only converted from one form of energy to another.

Kabla ya kuendelea kuongelea Law kwanza tunatakiwa tujiulize energy ni nini?
Energy is the ability to do work - Nishati ni uwezo wa kufanya kazi.

Kaitka vitu vyote vilivyopo ndani yake kunakuwa na Energy. Hata kama kiwe kimetulia.

Mpaka sasa wanasayansi wanajua namna ya kuitumia energy. Lakini kupata kujua energy ni kitu gani bado utafiti unaendelea.

Mwiliunahitaji chakula na ndani ya chakula kuna chemical energy ambayo hutumiwa ndani ya mwili na cells ilikuufanya mwili uweze kufanya kazi. Kazi zote zinazofanyika kwenye mwili energy ndiyo inayafanya zifanyike.

Pasipo energy hata existence ya kitu chochote kisingekuwepo.

Source of Energy

Wale waliosoma Quantum Physics au waliosoma Particle Physics
Hapa utasoma Fundamental particles and force inayohusu matter and radiation.

utakuja kuona ndani ya Atom kuna particle zipo ambazo ndani yake kuna energy.

Lakini utakapoenda ndani zaidi utakutana na vibration (Frequencies) ya very small particles.
Sasa ukienda zaidi kufanya utafiti hizo simall particles zimeundwa na nini. Jibu utapata void

WHAT IS VOID

: opening, gap. : empty space : emptiness, vacuum. : the quality or state of being without something .

Hiyo ndiyo tafsiri ya neno Void.

Je Void inaweza ikatengeneza haya maajabu yote tunayoyaona?

Nuclear Energy, Fossil Energy, Solar Energy, Electric Energy etc? Au kuna The very Powerful Existence iliyo juu ya uwezo wetu?

Basi kwa tafsiri hii naweza nikasema The Powerful Existence Beyond of our thinking which is the source of Energy is so called God or Allah in our understanding.

Hiyo ni Introduction ya thread yangu hii. Nitaendelea kuenda ndani zaidi kwa evidences za kisayansi.....

Venus Star watu wengi hawapingi uwepo wa Mungu. Ni kwamba, hii dunia ina chanzo. Na hiko chanzo ndio watu wanaita Mungu na majina mengi. The force behind all power is energy.
Shida hapo ni dini. Haswa hizi dini zilizokuja kwa majahazi. Ukristu na Uislam. Hapo nsio kwenye shida.
Sisi wachagga kabla ya kuja kwa ukristu tulikuwa tuna Mungu wetu. Anaitwa RUWA. Huyu alikuwa akiombwa wakati wa shida tu. Wakati wa magonjwa, njaa,nk.
Ila huyu Mungu wa sasa anaombwa kila siku. Wengine five times a day. Kwa hiyo nachokiona mimi ni kwamba huyu Mungu wa kwenye Quruan na Bibilia watu wanamchezea sana.

 

[holy spirit]

Unajua kwanini Mungu anatoka kwenye hiyo Equation ya kuumbwa?

Jibu ni hili :- Kwasababu Yeye ndiyo Ameumba kila kitu.. (Ukisema ameumbwa basi huyo Sio Mungu tena)


Hivyo hakuna chochote wala yoyote aliyemuumba Mungu, Maana Ili chochote au yoyote amuumbe Mungu inabidi aumbwe na Mungu kwanza... So kwenye hiyo Equation Mungu kwa Sifa zake hawezi kuingia labda tuzitoe hizo Sifa.

Sifa ambazo sisi binadamu wenyewe tumetengeneza tukampa si ndio??