Uwanja wa Entebe kuchukuliwa na China kwa ajili ya Mkopo, Mashabiki wa Bagamoyo kaeni mkao wa kula

Uwanja wa Entebe kuchukuliwa na China kwa ajili ya Mkopo, Mashabiki wa Bagamoyo kaeni mkao wa kula

Jisomeeni wenyewe


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Faced with the need to expand the transport sector in tandem with regional infrastructural development, Uganda launched an aggressive and ambitious 20-year civil aviation masterplan which included the upgrade of its only international airport in Entebbe along the shores of Lake Victoria, 43km south of the capital Kampala.

The refurbished airport would handle about 150,000 operations a year, as the landlocked country looked at making its main gateway a regional hub.

On March 24, 2015, Finance minister Matia Kasaija asked Parliament to approve a $325 million (Ush1.1 trillion) loan from Exim Bank of China for the expansion works on the airport. The money was approved, and the works started in January the following year. Addressing the MPs, Mr Kasaija said it was the best offer available and that they had to take it very quickly.

The upgrade would see the modification and modernisation of the main terminal building to handle an expected increase in traffic, a new cargo centre, and multi-storey parking.
Red flags

However, as construction was ongoing, the Uganda Civil Aviation Authority (UCAA) managers feeling uncomfortable with some clauses of the loan agreement raised red flags.
Related

Some 13 clauses were deemed unfriendly and as good as mortgaging the airport and eroding the country’s sovereignty. The most troubling for the aviation bosses was a clause that gave Exim Bank the sole authority to approve withdraws of funds from the UCAA accounts.

The bank also had the power to approve annual and monthly operating budgets, which it could reject, and the rights to inspect the government and UCCA books of accounts. The China International Economic and Trade Arbitration Commission (CIETAC) in Beijing also had the mandate to resolve disputes.

First to raise the alarm was the former UCAA managing director David Kakuba who warned that failure to amend the clauses could expose government assets to attachment and take over by China.

A team led by former envoy to China Dr Crispus Kiyonga in 2019 was told outrightly that there would not be any amendment to the loan agreement.
Stringent measures

Planning Minister Amos Lugoloobi admitted that the loan was poorly negotiated and signed but that the ministry has put in place stringent measures, including setting up an entire department to ensure loans are closely monitored so that the country does not slip into debt distress.

“We have restricted borrowing to only critical projects, and we ensure our loan ratio does not go beyond 50 percent of the GDP,” he said. Uganda’s current debt ratio to GDP is about 45.7 percent.

Read: Uganda joins neighbours in seeking $750m in new loans

Mr Lugoloobi ruled out any kickbacks during the negotiations, although President Yoweri Museveni has previously castigated technocrats seeking bribes, inflating projects’ costs, and influencing negotiations.
‘No cause for alarm’

Attorney General Kiwanuka Kiryowa playing down the fears of the airport takeover says there is no cause for alarm because no property of Uganda has been mortgaged. He added that the loan was a commercial contract with an obligation to both parties.

“When you borrow money, your obligation is to pay. If you do not pay, the other party can take you to court, in which case this would be CIETAC,” he said.

“Let everyone do their part. The airport makes money and will meet its obligations.”

The AG says the agreement is not unusual and requires no amendment.

Finance minister Kasaija said in case of a loan default, the government would intervene. “In the unlikely event that UCAA were to fail to generate sufficient revenue to service the loan, the central government will step in,” he said.
BAGAMOYOOOOOOOOOOOOO
mama ihurumie Tanzania yetu!!
 
Unaonekana haujui kitu, Bandari ya Bagamoyo ni mradi ambao sio wa mkopo na unajengwa kwa kutumia joint venture (JV) kati ya kampuni ya Bandari ya China (China Harbors) na Kampuni itakayoundwa na Mamlaka ya Bandari Tanzania (TPA).

Mkopo anachukua China Harbors kutoka Saudi Arabia nasi tutatoa pesa kuchangia kwenye project kama sehemu ya share so hapo hakuna mkopo kutoka China pekee Bali nasi tutahitajika kukopa pesa ya kutumbukiza kama mchango wa capital ya project.

So muwe Makini kupitia hii miradi sio kuja kuropoka mitandaoni bila kujua ukweli ulivyo, hakuna mkopo hata shilingi moja kutoka China zaidi ya kwamba tunaweka shares zetu kwenye huo mradi. Huu sio mradi wa serikali ya TZ pekee, ni JV kila upande unatakiwa kutoa a certain amount ili kuwekeza kwa pamoja.

Just get your facts right.
Wanasiasa wa Tanzania hawajawahi kuwa wakweli na hawaaminiki. Umazikumbuka ngonjera za gas ya Mtwara? leo hii kunamwanasiasa anayezungumzia Mtwara?
 
Nalijua hilo na ndio maaana nimesisitiza kwamba hakuna sababu ya kutupa imani yako kwa mtu yeyote

Chombo kama bunge ndio wajibu wake

Wapeleke bungeni lijadiliwe likipita sawa likishindikana sawa

Ila sisi watanzani tutabaki na ushahidi kwamba serikali ikiongozwa na wabunge wa chama fulani walipitisha hili na lile ndio tunachokitaka

Ili siku ikifika ya kunyooshana ushahidi uwepo
tatizo nawe unaropoka sana, aliongea issues nyingi ikiwa na pamoja na kutoendeleza bandari yoyite katika ukanda huu wa pwani(dar,tanga,mtwara n.k) baada ya huo mkataba kusainiwa na bandati kujengwa, pia mapato yote yatakuwa juu yao kwa kipindi flani n.k na wao wawe na mamlaka ya kila kitu kwenye operesheni za bandari, sasa yanini kutengeneza bandari ambayo huwezi kuendeleza bandari zingine??
 
Hizo pesa nyingi sis kama taifa hatuna uwezo wa kuzipata?
Na hiyo bandari ina umuhimu gan wakati tulizo nazo bado hatujazitumia ipasavyo?
Sembe litapikwa hapo... Na kitoweo pia kitapitia hapo..hapo..

Wachena wanajua wanachokifanya ...na ..waliobariki Hilo hapa Tz wanafahamu vyema wanacho tenda.... .... ...

Lakini ndio hivyo ...

Tutayaona miaka michache tu ijayo... ...
 
Jisomeeni wenyewe


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Faced with the need to expand the transport sector in tandem with regional infrastructural development, Uganda launched an aggressive and ambitious 20-year civil aviation masterplan which included the upgrade of its only international airport in Entebbe along the shores of Lake Victoria, 43km south of the capital Kampala.

The refurbished airport would handle about 150,000 operations a year, as the landlocked country looked at making its main gateway a regional hub.

On March 24, 2015, Finance minister Matia Kasaija asked Parliament to approve a $325 million (Ush1.1 trillion) loan from Exim Bank of China for the expansion works on the airport. The money was approved, and the works started in January the following year. Addressing the MPs, Mr Kasaija said it was the best offer available and that they had to take it very quickly.

The upgrade would see the modification and modernisation of the main terminal building to handle an expected increase in traffic, a new cargo centre, and multi-storey parking.
Red flags

However, as construction was ongoing, the Uganda Civil Aviation Authority (UCAA) managers feeling uncomfortable with some clauses of the loan agreement raised red flags.
Related

Some 13 clauses were deemed unfriendly and as good as mortgaging the airport and eroding the country’s sovereignty. The most troubling for the aviation bosses was a clause that gave Exim Bank the sole authority to approve withdraws of funds from the UCAA accounts.

The bank also had the power to approve annual and monthly operating budgets, which it could reject, and the rights to inspect the government and UCCA books of accounts. The China International Economic and Trade Arbitration Commission (CIETAC) in Beijing also had the mandate to resolve disputes.

First to raise the alarm was the former UCAA managing director David Kakuba who warned that failure to amend the clauses could expose government assets to attachment and take over by China.

A team led by former envoy to China Dr Crispus Kiyonga in 2019 was told outrightly that there would not be any amendment to the loan agreement.
Stringent measures

Planning Minister Amos Lugoloobi admitted that the loan was poorly negotiated and signed but that the ministry has put in place stringent measures, including setting up an entire department to ensure loans are closely monitored so that the country does not slip into debt distress.

“We have restricted borrowing to only critical projects, and we ensure our loan ratio does not go beyond 50 percent of the GDP,” he said. Uganda’s current debt ratio to GDP is about 45.7 percent.

Read: Uganda joins neighbours in seeking $750m in new loans

Mr Lugoloobi ruled out any kickbacks during the negotiations, although President Yoweri Museveni has previously castigated technocrats seeking bribes, inflating projects’ costs, and influencing negotiations.
‘No cause for alarm’

Attorney General Kiwanuka Kiryowa playing down the fears of the airport takeover says there is no cause for alarm because no property of Uganda has been mortgaged. He added that the loan was a commercial contract with an obligation to both parties.

“When you borrow money, your obligation is to pay. If you do not pay, the other party can take you to court, in which case this would be CIETAC,” he said.

“Let everyone do their part. The airport makes money and will meet its obligations.”

The AG says the agreement is not unusual and requires no amendment.

Finance minister Kasaija said in case of a loan default, the government would intervene. “In the unlikely event that UCAA were to fail to generate sufficient revenue to service the loan, the central government will step in,” he said.
Mbona mkataba wajawaida huo.
Watu wana mentality kuwa baada ya kukopa ni wakati wa kula kuku tu na hela yamkopeshaji.
Wanafikiri hata udipolipa mkopeshaji atakusamehe tu.
A poor mans thinking.
 
Kwanini huo mkopo tusikope wenyewe tujijengee hiyo bandari wenyewe na hilo deni tulipe wenyewe.
Ile ni free port ambayo uwekezaji wake ni more than 10trillion s
Where are the facts. Unless you download the agreement for us to read and understand we can not agree with what you are talking about. We are already confused. CCM ni janga maana Marehemu ni wa CCM mama ni wa CCM. Kwa nini wanatuchanganya. Ingekuwa Mama ni wa chama kingine tungeelewa lakini ninyi kwa ninyi kwa nini kuwe na kujichanganya. Sisi wananchi tumwami nani. Marehemu au Mama. Haya maamuzi yenu huko mbele will cost us dearly. Ninawahurumia sana wajukuu zetu maana watakuja kusema baba zetu walikuwa watu wa jinsi gani. If we can not have visionary leaders one day we may find our self stuck as a nation but I am not praying for that.
Hakuna mkataba uliowahi kuingiwa, serikali ipo kwenye negotiation, sasa ukitaka kuamini maneno ya Magufuli haya, ukitaka kuamini ya Waziri wa uwekezaji haya, ukitaka kuamini unayoami I haya. JF ipo tutakuja kujadili tena
Ufafanuzi mzuri. Pia naomba kuuliza! Kwani kama nchi, hatuwezi kukopa peke yetu tukaijenga hiyo bandari?

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Kwanza kukopa tunaweza Ila ni vema kufahamu kwamba ujenzi wa Bandari ni gharama kubwa sana na pesa kurudi inachukua muda sio chini ya miaka 30 sasa ni Bora kuingia concession au JV unaingiza pesa kiasi na nyingine inaemda kwenye mambo mengine.

Pia Ile Bandari ya Bagamoyo ni ya kuchimba (dredging) hiyo ni gharama kubwa na inahitaji utaalamu zaidi.

Kumbuka ujenzi wa berth kadhaa za pale Dar port imebidi World Bank ndio watusaidie kwa kutupatia Grant maana gharama take sio mchezo Sasa ndio itakuwa hiyo ya kuchimba kuongezea kina? Wanachimba sababu kina kofupi kulingana na meli ambazo wanatarajia kutia nanga kwenye gati za hapo pindi itakapokamilika maana watakuwa wanaleta meli kubwa sio hizi ndogo.
 
Unaonekana haujui kitu, Bandari ya Bagamoyo ni mradi ambao sio wa mkopo na unajengwa kwa kutumia joint venture (JV) kati ya kampuni ya Bandari ya China (China Harbors) na Kampuni itakayoundwa na Mamlaka ya Bandari Tanzania (TPA).

Mkopo anachukua China Harbors kutoka Saudi Arabia nasi tutatoa pesa kuchangia kwenye project kama sehemu ya share so hapo hakuna mkopo kutoka China pekee Bali nasi tutahitajika kukopa pesa ya kutumbukiza kama mchango wa capital ya project.

So muwe Makini kupitia hii miradi sio kuja kuropoka mitandaoni bila kujua ukweli ulivyo, hakuna mkopo hata shilingi moja kutoka China zaidi ya kwamba tunaweka shares zetu kwenye huo mradi. Huu sio mradi wa serikali ya TZ pekee, ni JV kila upande unatakiwa kutoa a certain amount ili kuwekeza kwa pamoja.

Just get your facts right.
Umeuona huo mkataba mkuu?
 
Unaonekana haujui kitu, Bandari ya Bagamoyo ni mradi ambao sio wa mkopo na unajengwa kwa kutumia joint venture (JV) kati ya kampuni ya Bandari ya China (China Harbors) na Kampuni itakayoundwa na Mamlaka ya Bandari Tanzania (TPA).

Mkopo anachukua China Harbors kutoka Saudi Arabia nasi tutatoa pesa kuchangia kwenye project kama sehemu ya share so hapo hakuna mkopo kutoka China pekee Bali nasi tutahitajika kukopa pesa ya kutumbukiza kama mchango wa capital ya project.

So muwe Makini kupitia hii miradi sio kuja kuropoka mitandaoni bila kujua ukweli ulivyo, hakuna mkopo hata shilingi moja kutoka China zaidi ya kwamba tunaweka shares zetu kwenye huo mradi. Huu sio mradi wa serikali ya TZ pekee, ni JV kila upande unatakiwa kutoa a certain amount ili kuwekeza kwa pamoja.

Just get your facts right.
Unaweza kuweka hapa mkataba wa mradi huo??.
 
Unawezaje kusema watu wanaropoka..! Au una lako jambo

Watanzani wa kawaida tunakumbuka maneno ya hayati raisi wa awamu ya 5 mh Magufuri

Kwamba vigezo na masharti vya mkataba wa ujenzi wa bandari hiyo ni vya kihuni, na aliongea peupe na kujaribu kudodosa baadhi ya vifungu..(ningeambatanisha hiyo video hapa ila device ninayotumia hairuhusu)

Na ni Kweli ni vya kihuni ikiwa alichokisema kilikuwa ni sahihi

Halafu kwanini tuhangaike kote huko kuchukua neno la huyu mala yule.! Kwani chombo kama bunge kazi yake nini.?

Lijadiliwe kweupe tu watanzani hatuna shida sisi tutaridhika tu hata kama tunapelekwa chaka
Umemjibu vizuri sana
 
Ile ni free port ambayo uwekezaji wake ni more than 10trillion s

Hakuna mkataba uliowahi kuingiwa, serikali ipo kwenye negotiation, sasa ukitaka kuamini maneno ya Magufuli haya, ukitaka kuamini ya Waziri wa uwekezaji haya, ukitaka kuamini unayoami I haya. JF ipo tutakuja kujadili tena

Kwanza kukopa tunaweza Ila ni vema kufahamu kwamba ujenzi wa Bandari ni gharama kubwa sana na pesa kurudi inachukua muda sio chini ya miaka 30 sasa ni Bora kuingia concession au JV unaingiza pesa kiasi na nyingine inaemda kwenye mambo mengine.

Pia Ile Bandari ya Bagamoyo ni ya kuchimba (dredging) hiyo ni gharama kubwa na inahitaji utaalamu zaidi.

Kumbuka ujenzi wa berth kadhaa za pale Dar port imebidi World Bank ndio watusaidie kwa kutupatia Grant maana gharama take sio mchezo Sasa ndio itakuwa hiyo ya kuchimba kuongezea kina? Wanachimba sababu kina kofupi kulingana na meli ambazo wanatarajia kutia nanga kwenye gati za hapo pindi itakapokamilika maana watakuwa wanaleta meli kubwa sio hizi ndogo.
Mkuu hujui kitu tulia na tafuta habari sahihi achana na taarifa za vijiweni.
 
Unaonekana haujui kitu, Bandari ya Bagamoyo ni mradi ambao sio wa mkopo na unajengwa kwa kutumia joint venture (JV) kati ya kampuni ya Bandari ya China (China Harbors) na Kampuni itakayoundwa na Mamlaka ya Bandari Tanzania (TPA).

Mkopo anachukua China Harbors kutoka Saudi Arabia nasi tutatoa pesa kuchangia kwenye project kama sehemu ya share so hapo hakuna mkopo kutoka China pekee Bali nasi tutahitajika kukopa pesa ya kutumbukiza kama mchango wa capital ya project.

So muwe Makini kupitia hii miradi sio kuja kuropoka mitandaoni bila kujua ukweli ulivyo, hakuna mkopo hata shilingi moja kutoka China zaidi ya kwamba tunaweka shares zetu kwenye huo mradi. Huu sio mradi wa serikali ya TZ pekee, ni JV kila upande unatakiwa kutoa a certain amount ili kuwekeza kwa pamoja.

Just get your facts right.
Weka mktaba wote hapa uwe wazi.Vinginevyo tumashtuka.Huo mradi usubiri,kwani kuna haraka gani
 
Unaonekana haujui kitu, Bandari ya Bagamoyo ni mradi ambao sio wa mkopo na unajengwa kwa kutumia joint venture (JV) kati ya kampuni ya Bandari ya China (China Harbors) na Kampuni itakayoundwa na Mamlaka ya Bandari Tanzania (TPA).

Mkopo anachukua China Harbors kutoka Saudi Arabia nasi tutatoa pesa kuchangia kwenye project kama sehemu ya share so hapo hakuna mkopo kutoka China pekee Bali nasi tutahitajika kukopa pesa ya kutumbukiza kama mchango wa capital ya project.

So muwe Makini kupitia hii miradi sio kuja kuropoka mitandaoni bila kujua ukweli ulivyo, hakuna mkopo hata shilingi moja kutoka China zaidi ya kwamba tunaweka shares zetu kwenye huo mradi. Huu sio mradi wa serikali ya TZ pekee, ni JV kila upande unatakiwa kutoa a certain amount ili kuwekeza kwa pamoja.

Just get your facts right.

Ivi ungekua wa hivo tz ingekataa kwa kigezo gan??????

Unachotakiwa uelewe mkopo uko hivi


-full funded
-partial funded ( hapa n percentage inategemea)

- huku kwetu n funded n constructed by chinese yaan unakopwa ela na wanaojenga n hao wanokukopesha!!!....
Vyovyote vile we unadhan kuna biashara ya hivo ya hovyo kama hyo et mchina awke ushirika bila hela yake kurud na riba???
- 99yrs

Ebu jielimishe afu rud !! Na usisahau kurud na mkataba
 
Unaonekana haujui kitu, Bandari ya Bagamoyo ni mradi ambao sio wa mkopo na unajengwa kwa kutumia joint venture (JV) kati ya kampuni ya Bandari ya China (China Harbors) na Kampuni itakayoundwa na Mamlaka ya Bandari Tanzania (TPA).

Mkopo anachukua China Harbors kutoka Saudi Arabia nasi tutatoa pesa kuchangia kwenye project kama sehemu ya share so hapo hakuna mkopo kutoka China pekee Bali nasi tutahitajika kukopa pesa ya kutumbukiza kama mchango wa capital ya project.

So muwe Makini kupitia hii miradi sio kuja kuropoka mitandaoni bila kujua ukweli ulivyo, hakuna mkopo hata shilingi moja kutoka China zaidi ya kwamba tunaweka shares zetu kwenye huo mradi. Huu sio mradi wa serikali ya TZ pekee, ni JV kila upande unatakiwa kutoa a certain amount ili kuwekeza kwa pamoja.

Just get your facts right.
Tunaomba documents za mradi huu nasi tupitie
 
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