Mapinduzi ya Zanzibar: Mchango wa John Okello (Che Guevara wa Afrika Mashariki) umefutwaje?

[fikirikwanza]

hukuona picha ya kwanza ilikuwa ya sultani, au hukuangalia sherehe zenyewe??? mke wa karume wala hajaalikwa matokeo yake yupo maria nyerere, john okello alikuwa kibarua ambaye hamliki shamba.

 

[Chizi Maarifa]

Tunapoelekea kwenye kilele cha sherehe za Mapinduzi ningependa tujiulize swali hilo ambalo limekuwa na mkanganyiko sana kutokana na Itikadi mbalbal za watu.

Je, baba wa Taifa la ZANZIBAR NI NANI KATI YA HAWA?
(a)John Okelo
(b)Abeid Karume
(c)Sultani bin Said

 

[kajirita]

Obviiously John Gedion Okello ndio Baba wa Taifa la Zanzibar.
Ndiye Baba wa Mapinduzi matukufu ya Zanzibar.

 

[Bramo]

Ngoja akina Barubaru na Bobwe waje hapa
Watajifanya hawamjui John Okelo

 

[Cheche Mtungi]

Phillemon Mikael
===>Wazanibari tangu zamani ni watu wabaguzi sana,hasa kimaeneo,halafu udini unafuatia,wanaona aibu tu wakija huku wanajiachia watakavyo ila subiri Tanganyika ije lazima tutachora mstari tu,ni suala la muda tu.
===>Wamejazana kariakoo,tandika,magomeni wanakula na kunya na hakuna mtu anaewauliza,ila nenda kwao uone,wamejaa chuki na ubaguzi wa hali ya juu
===>Tanganyika hiyo inakuja tutachora mstari tu.

Within a month of his rule after being announced as President of Zanzibar, Karume used his political skills to align the leaders of neighboring African countries against Okello, and invited Tanganyikan police officers into Zanzibar to maintain order.

As soon as Okello took a trip out of the country, Karume declared him an enemy of the state and did not allow him to return back in Zanzibar, he was also deported from Tanganyika. Given the presence of Tanganyikan police and the absence of their leader, Okello's gangs of followers did not offer any resistance. Okello then stayed in Kenya, in Congo-Kinshasa and in Uganda. He was incarcerated multiple times and was last seen with the former Ugandan President, dictator Iddi Amin in 1971 and vanished afterwards. It is more or less assumed that Idi Amin saw him as a threat (after Amin promoted himself, Okello reportedly joked that "now Uganda has two field marshals") and had arranged his assassination. This remains speculative, however.

Source:FREE ZANZIBAR PEOPLE FROM MKOLONI MWEUSI: JOHN OKELLO HAKUTAKA Z;BAR IUNGANE NA TANGANYIKA MZEE KARUME ALIKUWA AKIMUOGOPA OKELLO NDIO AKAMFUKUZA Z;BAR

By 3 February Zanzibar was finally returning to normality and Karume had been accepted, almost unquestionably, as its president.[SUP][4][/SUP] Okello formed a paramilitary unit, known as the Freedom Military Force (FMF), from his own supporters which is known to have patrolled the streets and become involved with looting.[SUP][5][/SUP][SUP][6][/SUP] In addition Okello's violent rhetoric, his thick and dialectic English pronunciations and Acholi tribal English accent- typical of Acholi from Northern Uganda, and his Christian beliefs alienated many in the largely moderate, Zanzibari and Muslim ASP.[SUP][7][/SUP] By March many of his FMF had been disarmed by Karume's supporters and an Umma Party militia.[SUP][6][/SUP][SUP][7][/SUP] Okello was denied access to the country when he tried to return from a trip to the mainland and deported to Tanganyika and then to Kenya before returning, destitute, to his native Uganda.[SUP][7][/SUP] He was officially removed from his post as Field Marshal on 11 March
Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Okello

 

[Waberoya]

Dereva Tax akimpeleka mjamzito Hospitali na mama akajifungua salama , yeye Dereva Tax hawi baba wa yule mtoto

Niliwahi kumkuta jamaa mmoja na mke wake Jangwani mama akiwa hatua za mwisho kujifungua, nikawapeleka hospitali ya muhimbili, after 40 minutes baba/mme wa yule mama akanipigia simu kunishukuru

Okello alitumiwa tu na ndio maana historia yake haieleweki, Uganda, tanzania na kenya wote kwa nyakati Tofauti wame enjoy services za Okello

All in all dhana ya ubaba kwa taifa fulani is very very questionable and debatable

 

[kajirita]

Dereva Tax akimpeleka mjamzito Hospitali na mama akajifungua salama , yeye Dereva Tax hawi baba wa yule mtoto

Niliwahi kumkuta jamaa mmoja na mke wake Jangwani mama akiwa hatua za mwisho kujifungua, nikawapeleka hospitali ya muhimbili, after 40 minutes baba/mme wa yule mama akanipigia simu kunishukuru

Okello alitumiwa tu na ndio maana historia yake haieleweki, Uganda, tanzania na kenya wote kwa nyakati Tofauti wame enjoy services za Okello

All in all dhana ya ubaba kwa taifa fulani is very very questionable and debatable

Kumfananisha FM J.Okello na dereva taxi si tu ni dharau isiyomithilika bali ni ukosefu wa shukurani ulipitiliza!

J.Okello alikuwa na uwezo wa kumchagua yeyote kwenye baraza la kwanza la mawaziri,alikuwa na uwezo wa kumchagua kichaa yeyote yule kuwa rais wa nchi!

Mbaya zaidi aliyemchagua kuwa rais kwa upendeleo wake ambaye hata kwenye mapinduzi hakushiriki ndiye aliyemtimua kisiwani humo!

Na ni Kwa nini walimuita sio raia wa nchi hiyo baada ya mapinduzi wakati kabla walimpa mpaka vyeo katika ngazi za chama?
Huu ulikuwa ni usaliti!Na nadhani unajua ni nani aliufanya!

 

[Ndibalema]

Hii ilishajadiliwa sana humu.
ingieni humu msome michango mbali mbali ya wadau. https://www.jamiiforums.com/jukwaa-...-[che-guevara-wa-east-africa]-umefutwaje.html

 

[Cheche Mtungi]

Ngoja akina Barubaru na Bobwe waje hapa
Watajifanya hawamjui John Okelo

Dereva Tax akimpeleka mjamzito Hospitali na mama akajifungua salama , yeye Dereva Tax hawi baba wa yule mtoto

Niliwahi kumkuta jamaa mmoja na mke wake Jangwani mama akiwa hatua za mwisho kujifungua, nikawapeleka hospitali ya muhimbili, after 40 minutes baba/mme wa yule mama akanipigia simu kunishukuru

Okello alitumiwa tu na ndio maana historia yake haieleweki, Uganda, tanzania na kenya wote kwa nyakati Tofauti wame enjoy services za Okello

All in all dhana ya ubaba kwa taifa fulani is very very questionable and debatable

By 3 February Zanzibar was finally returning to normality and Karume had been accepted, almost unquestionably, as its president.[SUP][4][/SUP] Okello formed a paramilitary unit, known as the Freedom Military Force (FMF), from his own supporters which is known to have patrolled the streets and become involved with looting.[SUP][5][/SUP][SUP][6][/SUP] In addition Okello's violent rhetoric, his thick and dialectic English pronunciations and Acholi tribal English accent- typical of Acholi from Northern Uganda, and his Christian beliefs alienated many in the largely moderate, Zanzibari and Muslim ASP.[SUP][7][/SUP] By March many of his FMF had been disarmed by Karume's supporters and an Umma Party militia.[SUP][6][/SUP][SUP][7][/SUP] Okello was denied access to the country when he tried to return from a trip to the mainland and deported to Tanganyika and then to Kenya before returning, destitute, to his native Uganda.[SUP][7][/SUP] He was officially removed from his post as Field Marshal on 11 March
Source: John Okello - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Bramo na Waberoya
===>Wazanzibari wana hulka ya ubinafsi na ubaguzi,nenda tandika,magomeni,kariakoo na tanga maeneo ya chumbageni (Mtupie) utaona jinsi life style ilivyo,uchoyo,ubinafsi kujitenga tenga ndio chachu ya mfumo wao wa maisha
===>Siwalaumu maana nafikiri ni urithi walioachiwa na baba au babu zao,hata zanzibar wako hivi hivi wenyewe wenyewe tu,
===>Namshukuru Mungu Tanganyika yangu hiyooo inakuja tutachora mstari muda si mrefu na heshima itarudi mahali pake.

 

[albuluushiy]

Tunapoelekea kwenye kilele cha sherehe za Mapinduzi ningependa tujiulize swali hilo ambalo limekuwa na mkanganyiko sana kutokana na Itikadi mbalbal za watu.

Je, baba wa Taifa la ZANZIBAR NI NANI KATI YA HAWA?
(a)John Okelo
(b)Abeid Karume
(c)Sultani bin Said

okello ni jitu shenzi lisilo na huruma lime2ulia wazee we2 et limridhshe yesu,aman karume nae limbukeni asie jielewa kaiuza nch ye2 kwa jambazi nyerere,mshenz aliesema angeweza angei2pa znz bara la mbali,znz haina baba wa taifa km wanavyotaka wakatoliki 2fuate mila zao z kikafiri,znz ina watawala walioleta ustaarb znz mpk huko kwenu tanganyika,kina sultan said na wengne achen kasumba z u2mwa mlizolishwa na wazungu,hko ulaya nd kumejaa half cast kbao

 

[Yericko Nyerere]

Ni John Okello (Field Marshal)

 

[Chizi Maarifa]

okello ni jitu shenzi lisilo na huruma lime2ulia wazee we2 et limridhshe yesu,aman karume nae limbukeni asie jielewa kaiuza nch ye2 kwa jambazi nyerere,mshenz aliesema angeweza angei2pa znz bara la mbali,znz haina baba wa taifa km wanavyotaka wakatoliki 2fuate mila zao z kikafiri,znz ina watawala walioleta ustaarb znz mpk huko kwenu tanganyika,kina sultan said na wengne achen kasumba z u2mwa mlizolishwa na wazungu,hko ulaya nd kumejaa half cast kbao

we ni mwarab nin? amekuuliza babu zako wa kiarab walioleta ustaarab zanzibar? ha ha ha....ukikosa elimu mtu sijui unakuaje? leta hoja na si matusi na udini. huna hoja acha watu wenye akili wajadili. pole kwa kuuliwa babu zako.

 

[Mr Q]

sasa kama baba wa taifa hilo mpka sasa anamkanganyiko, ni matumaini yangu kuwa isingekuwa Tanganyika zanzibar isingekuwa hivyo ilivyo leo.(msio penda kuambiwa ukweli msijitoe muhanga tafadhali) nalog out.

 

[Juakali2012]

okello ni jitu shenzi lisilo na huruma lime2ulia wazee we2 et limridhshe yesu,aman karume nae limbukeni asie jielewa kaiuza nch ye2 kwa jambazi nyerere,mshenz aliesema angeweza angei2pa znz bara la mbali,znz haina baba wa taifa km wanavyotaka wakatoliki 2fuate mila zao z kikafiri,znz ina watawala walioleta ustaarb znz mpk huko kwenu tanganyika,kina sultan said na wengne achen kasumba z u2mwa mlizolishwa na wazungu,hko ulaya nd kumejaa half cast kbao

Hivi wewe unaakili sawasawa? Hata kama mamayako hakukupa malezi unapaswa kujifunza hata kutoka kwa majirani. Udini unakusumbua wewe juha. Huwezi kuandika bila kuwataja wakatoliki? Mbona hospitali zao unakwenda kutibiwa? Mbona shule zao mnasoma?

 

[VOICE OF MTWARA]

siyajui hayo ya u-baba na u-mama wa taifa, but all in all field marshal john okelo sambamba na wamakonde kadhaa ndio planners na implementers wa the so-called mapinduzi matukufu ya zanzibar. ni lazima aheshimiwe bwana hata kama hamtaki iwe hivyo, jitahidini kuvumilia

 

[Ndibalema]

Samahanini kwa kuwarudisha nyuma. Hivi nini maana ya baba wa Taifa?
Kwenye katiba anatambulika?

 

[Ukoo Flani]

okello ni jitu shenzi lisilo na huruma lime2ulia wazee we2 et limridhshe yesu,aman karume nae limbukeni asie jielewa kaiuza nch ye2 kwa jambazi nyerere,mshenz aliesema angeweza angei2pa znz bara la mbali,znz haina baba wa taifa km wanavyotaka wakatoliki 2fuate mila zao z kikafiri,znz ina watawala walioleta ustaarb znz mpk huko kwenu tanganyika,kina sultan said na wengne achen kasumba z u2mwa mlizolishwa na wazungu,hko ulaya nd kumejaa half cast kbao

Umeme unaoutumia kuchaji betri ya simu unatoka TANGANYIKA

Waanzilishi wa JamiiForums ambako umetoa kashfa zako ni WATANGANYIKA, na mtandao wenyewe uko TANGANYIKA

Ukitaka kutoka nje ya uto tuvisiwa twenu lazima upitie TANGANYIKA

Mababu zenu walitoka unyamwezini TANGANYIKA, leo eti mnajidai mna identity…my foot!!

Mlipoanza kuchinjana huko 2001 mliokolewa na jeshi la TANGANYIKA

By the way, Waarabu walileta ustaarabu upi Zanzibar, mdebwedo?

Halafu huyo Sultani unayemwabudu alikuja TANGANYIKA kuomba hifadhi ya muda kabla ya kukimbilia Uingereza. Aliweka rehani maisha yake kwa huyo huyo Mwl. Nyerere mnayemtuk.ana

I suggest you take a chill pill and sleep, though unfortunately when you wake up, TANGANYIKA will still be a billion times superior Socially, Politically and Economically to your little good-for-nothing islands.

 

[Mashaxizo]

Duh! Umeelezea vizuri!
But, the question is: hayo maneno yanahusiana vipi na mada??????

Bramo na Waberoya
===>Wazanzibari wana hulka ya ubinafsi na ubaguzi,nenda tandika,magomeni,kariakoo na tanga maeneo ya chumbageni (Mtupie) utaona jinsi life style ilivyo,uchoyo,ubinafsi kujitenga tenga ndio chachu ya mfumo wao wa maisha
===>Siwalaumu maana nafikiri ni urithi walioachiwa na baba au babu zao,hata zanzibar wako hivi hivi wenyewe wenyewe tu,
===>Namshukuru Mungu Tanganyika yangu hiyooo inakuja tutachora mstari muda si mrefu na heshima itarudi mahali pake.

 

[Cheche Mtungi]

Duh! Umeelezea vizuri!
But, the question is: hayo maneno yanahusiana vipi na mada??????

By 3 February Zanzibar was finally returning to normality and Karume had been accepted, almost unquestionably, as its president.[SUP][4][/SUP] Okello formed a paramilitary unit, known as the Freedom Military Force (FMF), from his own supporters which is known to have patrolled the streets and become involved with looting.[SUP][5][/SUP][SUP][6][/SUP] In addition Okello's violent rhetoric, his thick and dialectic English pronunciations and Acholi tribal English accent- typical of Acholi from Northern Uganda, and his Christian beliefs alienated many in the largely moderate, Zanzibari and Muslim ASP.[SUP][7][/SUP] By March many of his FMF had been disarmed by Karume's supporters and an Umma Party militia.[SUP][6][/SUP][SUP][7][/SUP] Okello was denied access to the country when he tried to return from a trip to the mainland and deported to Tanganyika and then to Kenya before returning, destitute, to his native Uganda.[SUP][7][/SUP] He was officially removed from his post as Field Marshal on 11 March
Source: John Okello - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Mashaxizo
Angalia kwenye nyekundu hapo,angekuwa na imani kama wao,na antoka pemba au unguja angekuwepo kwenye historia.

 

[Swat]

Naheshimu mapinduzi,namheshimu hayati karume. Lakini sifurahishwi na kutomuenzi kwa jinsi yeyote field marshal okelo. Ukichukulia yeye ndie aliyeratibu na aliyeongoza mapambano ya mapinduzi. Basi hata picha zake tu zingebandikwa uwanjani.