Mjadala: Kero za michango ya Sherehe katika jamii ya Watanzania

Mjadala: Kero za michango ya Sherehe katika jamii ya Watanzania

Kimey said:
yaani nikikuuliza utarudia yaleyale ambayo nimeshindwa kukuelewa!
Mara upuuzi, mara mie nachanga ila kwa marafiki wa karibu, mara watu wanaanza maisha, mara watu watu wanabaki maskini, mara unalazimishwa kuchanga! Mi sikuelewi unajua!
Click to expand...

Yes ni upuuzi tena ulimbukeni kutumia beyond your means for a one day occassion;
Shughuli kama Harusi ni responsibility ya familia na watu wa karibu its my responsibility kuwasaidia pale wanapokwama within limits
Kuanza maisha nimekujibu tayari ndoa is a journey they start life as married couples.....
Yes people are starting their married life without essential things wakati harusi yao ilicost millions....
Watu wanaleta kadi za michango..... simu haziishi na kila siku wanakugongea hodi kukumbushia, sio hiari tena its compulsory...
 
VoiceOfReason said:
Yes ni upuuzi tena ulimbukeni kutumia beyond your means for a one day occassion;
Shughuli kama Harusi ni responsibility ya familia na watu wa karibu its my responsibility kuwasaidia pale wanapokwama within limits
Kuanza maisha nimekujibu tayari ndoa is a journey they start life as married couples.....
Yes people are starting their married life without essential things wakati harusi yao ilicost millions....
Watu wanaleta kadi za michango..... simu haziishi na kila siku wanakugongea hodi kukumbushia, sio hiari tena its compulsory...
Click to expand...
Tatizo lako huna guts za kusema ukweli unaletewa kadi badala ya kuwambia mimihua sichangii harusi! Unazipokea then unakuja kulialia huku JF! Mabadiliko yanaanza na wewe basi usitegemee mtu aje akusemee!
 
Kevin Ambrose said:
Mchango wa nini sasa kwenye sherehe ya siku ya kuzaliwa? Kununulia keki na mishumaa?

Watu wengine sijui wakoje tu. Mtu kama huna uwezo usilazimishe kufanya mambo usoyaweza. Kuombaomba michango ya sherehe ni kuleta usumbufu tu kwa watu na kutaka kupeana lawama.
Click to expand...
hata mimi nashangaa!
 
Kimey said:
Tatizo lako huna guts za kusema ukweli unaletewa kadi badala ya kuwambia mimihua sichangii harusi! Unazipokea then unakuja kulialia huku JF! Mabadiliko yanaanza na wewe basi usitegemee mtu aje akusemee!
Click to expand...

Assumptions and presumptions....... How do you know ninapokea kadi??? Your personal or my personal dealings with this issue does not matter..... the motion at Hand is how did we find ourselves in this position.

"Hii michango ni culture ya wapi na ilitokea wapi???"; Na je is it only me who found this Ridiclous or there are some other people??? and for the people who accepts this, am begging for the reasons.
 
Nguli said:
Nimekuwa nafuatilia jinsi desturi ya kuchangia na kufanya sherehe kubwa inavyozidi kushika kasi, ikipelekea ule wigo wa kuomba michango kupanuka kiasi kwamba sasa hata mtu ambaye jina lako halijui vizuri anaweza kukuomba mchango.

Aidha michango na sherehe hizi zimekuwa mzigo mkubwa sana kwa baadhi ya watu, ikiwa ni pamoja na wale wenye kipato kidogo wanaochangiwa na kulazimika kulipa michango hiyo kwa miaka mingi. Je, wajua kuwa kuna familia ambazo zimefikia kulazimisha ndugu wauze mashamba au mifugo mtaji ili kupata fedha za kuchangia sherehe?. Je, wajua kuwa kuna watu ambao zaidi ya nusu ya kipato chao wanatumia kuchangia sherehe na huku wakishindwa kulipia huduma muhimu kama shule, matibabu, lishe, nk. Na kuwa wakati mwingine wewe au mimi (au wengine kama mimi na wewe) ndio wenyeviti na makatibu wa sherehe hiyo?.

Na ni sisi tunaoona fahari ya kutumia milioni 30 au zaidi kwenye sherehe usiku mmoja?
Kuna kijana mmoja jamaa yetu juzi juzi alipata shule Australia akawa anatafuta mchango wa dola 5,000 aende. Alipata 2,000 na amwekwama kwenda.

Mwaka kesho akisema anaoa tutamchangia milioni 15-20!!!. Hii si hadithi, ni ukweli, na ni kielelezo cha ulimbukeni tuliofikia.

Siku za karibuni nimetambua kuwa kuna kundi kubwa tu linasikitishwa na huu mwenendo, na hata kutambua kuwa tunaweza kuwa tunaandikiwa dhambi kubwa (na hukumu yatusubiri) kwa jinsi wengi wetu tunashindwa kusaidia mambo ya msingi lakini tunakuwa wepesi kutoa kwenye sherehe. Wengi wanaamini kuwa tumeshatumbukia kwenye lindi la mazoea ambapo hatuwezi kujitoa mpaka upepo uje ubadilike wenyewe!.
Mimi nafikiri wasomi tuna jukumu muhimu la kuwa chachu ya mabadiliko pale ambapo mazoea yenye madhara yanavuka mipaka na kuweza hata kuwa chanzo cha ufukara na kuviza maendeleo.

Ili kubadilisha hili jambo, lazima tuanzie mahali. Mimi napendeleza na kuanza kutekeleza. Kuanzia Januari 2011, nitapunguza michango ninayotoa.

Nitatoa tu kwa mtu wa karibu sana, na nitachanga kidogo. Usishangae nikakuchangia 20,000/= kama ulitegemea 50,000/= kwa mfano. Kuanzia July 2011, nitaacha kabisa kuchangia sherehe. Badala yake nitakuwa nachangia elimu pale ambapo mzazi hayupo au mhusika kweli hana uwezo na pia nitachangia miradi mingine ya jamii na maendeleo.

Je waniunga mkono? Kama ndiyo sambaza huu ujumbe kwa mtandao wako.

Dr. D.R.Olomi
Box 35036
Dar es Salaam, Tanzania
Click to expand...
Dr thank you. Nakuunga mkono.
 
Watu hawaendeshi Rolls Royce si kwa sababu hawajui zinauzwa wapi ila ni kwa sababu hawawezi kumudu bei.

Sasa iweje mtu mwenye uwezo wa kumudu sherehe ya harusi ya Tshs 2000,000.00 atake starehe ya sherehe ya Tshs10,000,000.00?

Utamaduni huu wa Kishenzi wa kuvamia shughuli za bei mbaya upo Tanzania tu, nchi nyingine duniani sherehe za bei mbaya ni za wenye pesa tu.

Kwa usawa wa Bei ya Mafuta ya Tanzania nashangaa kwa nini Mtu anunue Hammer-2
hapa Uesiei tu kwenyewe ambako galoni moja ya mafuta Lita 3.4 ni $3.5 wanayakimbia. Sasa huko Tanzania lita moja ni zaidi ya dola moja na nusu kuna majuha wa starehe na ulimbukeni wanyanunua?

Dawa ya mila hii ya kilimbukeni ni kuacha kutoa michango hii ya kipuuzi.

Eti nasikia hata shere ya kuzaliwa siku hizi wanataka michango??

Kama huna uwezo si unanunua pipi kijiti na puto moja tu sherehe kwisha??
 
VoiceOfReason said:
...............
"Hii michango ni culture ya wapi na ilitokea wapi???"; Na je is it only me who found this Ridiclous or there are some other people??? and for the people who accepts this, am begging for the reasons..................
Click to expand...

Hii culture ni nature ytu waafrika kuishi kindugu na kusadiana utamaduni huu ni sawa na wa extended family ingawa dunia ya sasa inafanya waafrika tuchukie utamaduni wetu. N kasumba ya kuona yale yanayofanywa na na western ndio way to go inaharibu.

Kama unaona kuchangia harusi ni upuuzi siku si nyingi utaona hata kuchangia na kujumuika kwenye msiba ni upuuuzi. Siku si nyingi utasema mtoto wa mjomba au shngazi si ndugu yako. Siku si nyingi utasema kujuana na jirani yako na watu wa mtaaani ni upuuzi pia

Nakubaliana nawe unaposema dhanana viwango ni tatizo lakini kuchanga au kuchangianakwenye harusi is right
 
Mtazamaji said:
Hii culture ni nature ytu waafrika kuishi kindugu na kusadiana utamaduni huu ni sawa na wa extended family ingawa dunia ya sasa inafanya waafrika tuchukie utamaduni wetu. N kasumba ya kuona yale yanayofanywa na na western ndio way to go inaharibu.

Kama unaona kuchangia harusi ni upuuzi siku si nyingi utaona hata kuchangia na kujumuika kwenye msiba ni upuuuzi. Siku si nyingi utasema mtoto wa mjomba au shngazi si ndugu yako. Siku si nyingi utasema kujuana na jirani yako na watu wa mtaaani ni upuuzi pia

Nakubaliana nawe unaposema dhanana viwango ni tatizo lakini kuchanga au kuchangianakwenye harusi is right
Click to expand...

Habari kaka....... Hope you are fine..........

Undugu na kusaidiana sio utamaduni wa kiafrika tu bali ni ubinadamu na ustaarabu.... Takuwa mtu wa ajabu sana nikipinga kusaidiana sababu binadamu huwezi kuishi peke yako in a vacuum.... Issue ni kusaidiana.... (misiba; magonjwa na sherehe) tunamsaidia mtu ambaye anahitaji msaada....

sasa swali linakuja hizi Harusi za sasa Je ni kweli watu hawa wanahitaji msaada wa kuspend millions of cash for a one day occassion??? Cant it be done more cheaply within their own means..... Harusi sio jambo la ghafla ni jambo la kupanga.... so you can plan it reasonably kulingana na pato lako

Kuhusu huu utamaduni wa kupitisha kadi za michango kwa kila mtu not only your close relatives SIO UTAMADUNI WETU; THINGS DID NOT USED TO BE THIS WAY watu walikuwa wanajumuika pamoja na kutoa pongezi zao kama zawadi???
 
MADAM T said:
Sana tu, kama unamiaka 100 tutashangaa nini wewe ukishangaa kuchangiana kwenye harusi
Click to expand...

au anaweza pia kuwa na miaka chini ya kumi na nane kwahiyo anatafuta hoja za kupambana kwenye midahalo yao ya shule
 
Mokoyo said:
Nafikiria sana kuachana na kuchangia matukio ambayo ni ya kianasa na ambayo ynawezekana kufanywa na wahusika wenyewe na ndugu zao

Mimi nitaanza kuchangia wagonjwa, walemavu, na huduma nyingine za kijamii

Nimependa topic ya Dr. Nguli na Dr. Olomi (Jukwaa la Habari Mchanganyiko)
Click to expand...
Mja asili haachi asili
 
Kimey said:
Tatizo lako huna guts za kusema ukweli unaletewa kadi badala ya kuwambia mimihua sichangii harusi! Unazipokea then unakuja kulialia huku JF! Mabadiliko yanaanza na wewe basi usitegemee mtu aje akusemee!
Click to expand...
kweli inabidi kuwa wajasiri kukataa kupokea hizo kadi!
 
VoiceOfReason said:
Uliza ambapo haukuelewa ueleweshwe sio kutoa comment just because you can.....
Click to expand...
VOC naona unaandika maelezo marefu lakini stil unarudi pale pale,the issue is ukiletewa kadi ya mchango ni uamuzi wako kuchanga au kutochanga sasa i dont see which part u dont understand
 
GY said:
au anaweza pia kuwa na miaka chini ya kumi na nane kwahiyo anatafuta hoja za kupambana kwenye midahalo yao ya shule
Click to expand...
Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something."
 
The Finest said:
VOC naona unaandika maelezo marefu lakini stil unarudi pale pale,the issue is ukiletewa kadi ya mchango ni uamuzi wako kuchanga au kutochanga sasa i dont see which part u dont understand
Click to expand...
Swali sio kadi ikija uchange au usichange.... Thats not the question here..... The question is where did this issue start in the first place... I think I know the question better as am the one who asked it
 
VoiceOfReason said:
Swali sio kadi ikija uchange au usichange.... Thats not the question here..... The question is where did this issue start in the first place... I think I know the question better as am the one who asked it
Click to expand...
It started when people started getting married.NEED I SAY MORE.
 
VoiceOfReason said:
Swali sio kadi ikija uchange au usichange.... Thats not the question here..... The question is where did this issue start in the first place... I think I know the question better as am the one who asked it
Click to expand...
Ndio maana pia nakushauri ubadilishe heading ya thread yako maana ni tofauti na kinachojadiliwa ukianza kuuliza aliyeleta utamuduni wewe unaoita wa kipuuzi unategemea uambiweje
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Our Community

Regional Communities

Back
Top Bottom
Menu
Forums
New posts
Log in
Register