Ni kweli Mungu hana Upendo? Au sisi tu ndio hatumuelewi!?

[FaizaFoxy]

Revelation 21:6-7

Revelation 21:6-7

6 Jesus said to me: "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To the thirsty I will give water without cost from the spring of the water of life. 7 Those who are victorious will inherit all this, and I will be their God and they will be my children.

Tazama usivyokuwa na haya, unaibadili biblia kwa mkono wako, kuna "Jesus" kwenye hiyo aya ya 6? hata Wakristo wenzako wakiisoma watakushangaa jinsi unavyojaribu kuichakachuwa Biblia kijinga kabisa.

Hoya quote context ujione ulivyo juha:

Revelations 21: 1-8
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. 5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. 6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. 7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

This is not Jesus speaking but rather the Father. As it says I will be his God and he will be my son. Or does Jesus have a son now?


Ndiyo maana ulikuwa unaweka manamba badala ya aya? ulijuwa hapa huchomoki.

Na kama hiyo ya Kiingereza haikutoshi hii hapa ya Kiswahili:

1 Kisha nikaona mbingu mpya na nchi mpya; kwa maana mbingu za kwanza na nchi ya kwanza zimekwisha kupita, wala hapana bahari tena.
2 Nami nikauona mji ule mtakatifu, Yerusalemu mpya, ukishuka kutoka mbinguni kwa Mungu, umewekwa tayari, kama bibi-arusi aliyekwisha kupambwa kwa mumewe.
3 Nikasikia sauti kubwa kutoka katika kile kiti cha enzi ikisema, Tazama, maskani ya Mungu ni pamoja na wanadamu, naye atafanya maskani yake pamoja nao, nao watakuwa watu wake. Naye Mungu mwenyewe atakuwa pamoja nao.
4 Naye atafuta kila chozi katika macho yao, wala mauti haitakuwapo tena; wala maombolezo, wala kilio, wala maumivu hayatakuwapo tena; kwa kuwa mambo ya kwanza yamekwisha kupita.
5 Na yeye aketiye juu ya kile kiti cha enzi akasema, Tazama, nayafanya yote kuwa mapya. Akaniambia, Andika ya kwamba maneno hayo ni amini na kweli.
6 Akaniambia, Imekwisha kuwa. Mimi ni Alfa na Omega, Mwanzo na Mwisho. Mimi nitampa yeye mwenye kiu, ya chemchemi ya maji ya uzima, bure.

7 Yeye ashindaye atayarithi haya, nami nitakuwa Mungu wake, naye atakuwa mwanangu.


8 Bali waoga, na wasioamini, na wachukizao, na wauaji, na wazinzi, na wachawi, na hao waabuduo sanamu, na waongo wote, sehemu yao ni katika lile ziwa liwakalo moto na kiberiti. Hii ndiyo mauti ya pili.

Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar
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Hapo kwa kuchakachuwa kwako maneno ya biblia kama uko mahakama ya Kanisa hukumu yako ni nini?

Unasikitisha sana. Hivi ndivyo mnavyodanganyana na ndivyo unavyodangaya wenzako humu?

Ngija Mkristo mwenzako aje kukusaidia na awe mkweli, kama yu amfata Kristo.

Eiyer njoo msaidie Ishmael tumembamba anachakachuwa biblia. Ndiyo sababu alikuwa anaweka manamba hataki kuweka aya, kuiweka kuiona haikidhi matakwa yake akatia maneno yake kwenye biblia. Aibu kubwa sana.
Ishmael fanya toba ya ukweli la sivyo hutouona "uzima wa milele", njoo kwenye haki, amini tu kuwa Yasu ni mtume wa Mwenyeezi Mungu kama walivyo mitume wengine, huna haja ya kuchakachuwa biblia kupoteza wenzako na kujipoteza mwenyewe kwa ajili ya kutafuta ushindi wa kubishana. Elimika, fanya toba, Shahadia kuwa hapana Mungu apasae kuabudiwa ila mmoja tu na Muhammad ni mtume wake, kama ilivyo kwa Yesu, Ibrahim, Mussa, Daud, Ishaqa na wengine wengi. Kubali usamehewe, bila hivyo huna ujanja.

 

[FaizaFoxy]

You need to learn English.

The person said he is Allah and there is no God but I. We know the "I" is Allah who denies the existence of God and/or who said there is no God.

I need a verse.

Pata kipande kingine hiki, upate darsa la lugha vizuri sana. Sitegemei kutoka kwako kama haya unayaelewa, japo ungekuwa katika kondoo waliopotea haya ungeyaelewa, kwa bahati mbaya hauko katika kondoo (unajuwa wewe mmeitwa nani msio Wayahudi) waliopotea:

Were there Jewish and Christian Arabs before Islam?
In the city of Madina in what we call today "Saudi Arabia", there were three main religions: Idol worshiping, Judaism and Christianity. The name of the Jewish leader who also was the Highest Priest in Madina before Islam came was "Abdallah Bin-Saba". His Arabic name was not "AbdElohim Bin-Saba" or "AbdElloi Bin-Saba" or "AbdGOD Bin-Saba". The reason why his first name was "Abdallah" is because the Arab Jews in Madina used the word "Allah" for GOD in their Holy Scriptures. The word "Allah" did indeed exist in the Arabic Talmud and the other Jewish Holy Scriptures.
Also, the Christians' Arabic Bible at that time used the word "Allah" for GOD. Even today's Christians' Arabic Bibles use the word "Allah" for GOD. Today in the Middle East, Christians sometimes name their kids "Abdallah". Also there are Christian families who's last names is "Abdallah".
In today's Arabic Bible, the word "Allah" is used for both the Old Testament and the New Testament.

Chanzo: Jewish and Christian Arabs used the word "Allah" for GOD before Islam.

 

[FaizaFoxy]

Kiogozi, mwaka huu nataka nimbatize dada yetu kipenzi FaizaFoxy

Mimi ni mfuasi wa Yesu kuliko wewe unaempinga. Kumbuka hilo.

 

[Ishmael]

Tazama usivyokuwa na haya, unaibadili biblia kwa mkono wako, kuna "Jesus" kwenye hiyo aya ya 6? hata Wakristo wenzako wakiisoma watakushangaa jinsi unavyojaribu kuichakachuwa Biblia kijinga kabisa.

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I told you, come to Jesus wewe bado unasuasua tu, unaona jinsi unavyo shindwa hata elewa nani ni msemaji wa kwenye Revelation chapter 21?

May be you need to know that it is Jesus who is Alpha and Omega, and it is Jesus who said I will be your God when you accept Him.

Accordingly Jesus said He is God.

NOW: Wapi aya ambayo Allah na yeye anasema kwa mdomo wake kuwa yeye ni Mungu?
Wapi aya ambayo Muhammad anasema kwa mdomo wake kuwa yeye ni mtume wa Mungu?

 

[Ishmael]

Mimi ni mfuasi wa Yesu kuliko wewe unaempinga. Kumbuka hilo.

Following Jesus and having Jesus are two distinct words. You need Jesus and not just following Him. Do you have Him in your heart?

 

[Ishmael]

Pata kipande kingine hiki, upate darsa la lugha vizuri sana. Sitegemei kutoka kwako kama haya unayaelewa, japo ungekuwa katika kondoo waliopotea haya ungeyaelewa, kwa bahati mbaya hauko katika kondoo (unajuwa wewe mmeitwa nani msio Wayahudi) waliopotea:

Were there Jewish and Christian Arabs before Islam?
In the city of Madina in what we call today "Saudi Arabia", there were three main religions: Idol worshiping, Judaism and Christianity. The name of the Jewish leader who also was the Highest Priest in Madina before Islam came was "Abdallah Bin-Saba". His Arabic name was not "AbdElohim Bin-Saba" or "AbdElloi Bin-Saba" or "AbdGOD Bin-Saba". The reason why his first name was "Abdallah" is because the Arab Jews in Madina used the word "Allah" for GOD in their Holy Scriptures. The word "Allah" did indeed exist in the Arabic Talmud and the other Jewish Holy Scriptures.
Also, the Christians' Arabic Bible at that time used the word "Allah" for GOD. Even today's Christians' Arabic Bibles use the word "Allah" for GOD. Today in the Middle East, Christians sometimes name their kids "Abdallah". Also there are Christian families who's last names is "Abdallah".
In today's Arabic Bible, the word "Allah" is used for both the Old Testament and the New Testament.

Chanzo: Jewish and Christian Arabs used the word "Allah" for GOD before Islam.

Those are just vain words trying to justify Islam through the Bible. Hivi Allah wenu huwa hawezi kujitetea bila ya kutuhusisha sisi Wakristo na Biblia yetu mnayo dai imechakachuliwa? Sasa unaikimbilia Biblia hiyohiyo iliyochakachuliwa kama mnavyo dai ili ikusaidie... MSIBA HUU.

Njoo kwa Yesu Mungu Mkuu.

 

[FaizaFoxy]

I told you, come to Jesus wewe bado unasuasua tu, unaona jinsi unavyo shindwa hata elewa nani ni msemaji wa kwenye Revelation chapter 21?

May be you need to know that it is Jesus who is Alpha and Omega, and it is Jesus who said I will be your God when you accept Him.

Accordingly Jesus said He is God.

NOW: Wapi aya ambayo Allah na yeye anasema kwa mdomo wake kuwa yeye ni Mungu?
Wapi aya ambayo Muhammad anasema kwa mdomo wake kuwa yeye ni mtume wa Mungu?

Wewe unachakachuwa unatia kitu kisichokuwemo, naona huelewi wewe ni nani asemayo hayo maneno. Tumekustukia, kasome vizuri uelewe maneno ya nani hayo.

Hakuna hata sehemu moja ya kwenye biblia yenye maneno "Alpha na Omega" yakamlenga Jesus. Ikiwa Jesus ni Alpha na Omega ni nani aliyekufa na kuzikwa pangoni siku tatu?

Msijidanganye nafsi zenu, kuweni wa kweli. Sisi hamuwezi kutudanganya.

 

[Ishmael]

Wewe unachakachuwa unatia kitu kisichokuwemo, naona huelewi wewe ni nani asemayo hayo maneno. Tumekustukia, kasome vizuri uelewe maneno ya nani hayo.

Hakuna hata sehemu moja ya kwenye biblia yenye maneno "Alpha na Omega" yakamlenga Jesus. Ikiwa Jesus ni Alpha na Omega ni nani aliyekufa na kuzikwa pangoni siku tatu?

Msijidanganye nafsi zenu, kuweni wa kweli. Sisi hamuwezi kutudanganya.

Apparently, you did not read the exhibit Revelation 21:6.

Jesus proclaimed Himself to be the "Alpha and Omega" in Revelation 1:8,11;21:6; and 22:13. Alpha and omega are the first and last letters of the Greek alphabet. Among the Jewish rabbis, it was common to use the first and the last letters of the Hebrew alphabet to denote the whole of anything, from beginning to end. Jesus as the beginning and end of all things is a reference to no one but the true God. This statement of eternity could apply only to God. It is seen especially in Revelation 22:13, where Jesus proclaims that He is "the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End."

 

[FaizaFoxy]

Following Jesus and having Jesus are two distinct words. You need Jesus and not just following Him. Do you have Him in your heart?

Listen to what Jesus is telling those who are like you:

Matthew 7:
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

[SUP]22 [/SUP]Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
[SUP]23 [/SUP]And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Kazi kwako.

 

[Ishmael]

Listen to what Jesus is telling those who are like you:

Matthew 7:
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

[SUP]22 [/SUP]Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
[SUP]23 [/SUP]And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Kazi kwako.

Kazi ipo kwako wewe unaye kana kuwa Yesu sio Alpha na Omega, na atakwambia siku ile wewe na wa dini wenzako, depart from me you workers of inequity.

Nyie mnao pinga kuwa Yesu si Mwana na Mungu si Baba. Hakika Allah sio Baba na wala sio Mungu wetu sisi Wakristo. Yesu atamwambia Allah and Muhammad the following, depart from you workers of inequity, I never knew you.

 

[FaizaFoxy]

Kazi ipo kwako wewe unaye kana kuwa Yesu sio Alpha na Omega, na atakwambia siku ile wewe na wa dini wenzako, depart from me you workers of inequity.

Nyie mnao pinga kuwa Yesu si Mwana na Mungu si Baba. Hakika Allah sio Baba na wala sio Mungu wetu sisi Wakristo. Yesu atamwambia Allah and Muhammad the following, depart from you workers of inequity, I never knew you.

Mwana wa Mungu wapo wengi tu ndani ya biblia, hata wewe ni mwana wa Mungu, hiyo wala si argument, ni utoto huo.

Hakuna mahala Yesu kasema yeye ni Alpha na Omega. Nikuonesha juu huko hayo ni maneno ya baba'ke Yesu aliye mbunguni ambae ndiyo baba'ko wewe pia.

Wapi Yesu anasema "Mimi Mungu"?

Mpaka sasa nangoja jibu lako sijapata. Naona unaingia huku unatokea huku, kama hakuna sema tu hakuna, usiogope.

 

[FaizaFoxy]

Apparently, you did not read the exhibit Revelation 21:6.

Jesus proclaimed Himself to be the "Alpha and Omega" in Revelation 1:8,11;21:6; and 22:13. Alpha and omega are the first and last letters of the Greek alphabet. Among the Jewish rabbis, it was common to use the first and the last letters of the Hebrew alphabet to denote the whole of anything, from beginning to end. Jesus as the beginning and end of all things is a reference to no one but the true God. This statement of eternity could apply only to God. It is seen especially in Revelation 22:13, where Jesus proclaims that He is "the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End."

You are lying again, show those verses if you are telling the truth not just mere numbers. Show us here the verses, let us read them, we do not want your words, you have no authority on any word. We want the book here, not you.

 

[Ishmael]

You are lying again, show those verses if you are telling the truth not just mere numbers. Show us here the verses, let us read them, we do nit want your words, you have no authority on any word. We want the book here, not you.

Verses won't lie.

 

[kahtaan]

You are lying again, show those verses if you are telling the truth not just mere numbers. Show us here the verses, let us read them, we do nit want your words, you have no authority on any word. We want the book here, not you.

Without telling lies MaxShimba and the rest of Christian wont exist today.
Their income depends on it.
The good lier you are the better Christian you became.

A good example is their Leader So called Apostle PAUL.
These christians worshipped him today.

 

[FaizaFoxy]

Those are just vain words trying to justify Islam through the Bible. Hivi Allah wenu huwa hawezi kujitetea bila ya kutuhusisha sisi Wakristo na Biblia yetu mnayo dai imechakachuliwa? Sasa unaikimbilia Biblia hiyohiyo iliyochakachuliwa kama mnavyo dai ili ikusaidie... MSIBA HUU.

Njoo kwa Yesu Mungu Mkuu.

Wewe huiamini Biblia?

 

[Ishmael]

Wewe huiamini Biblia?

Yesu ni Alpha na Omega


Bwana Yesu Asifiwe,


Yesu Kristo alipokuwa akijitambulisha kwa Yohana katika kisiwa cha Patmo alisema: "Mimi ni Alpha na Omega, mwanzo na mwisho, asema Bwana Mungu, aliyeko na aliyekuwako na atakayekuja,Mwenyezi"(Ufunuo wa Yohana 1:8)


Yesu alitaka tujue ya kuwa ndani ya jina lake kuna nguvu za (au upako wa) Alpha na tena kuna nguvu za (au upako wa) Omega. Yaani ni mwanzilishi wa jambo na pia ni mkamilishaji wa jambo. Yeye ni mwaminifu kiasi cha kwamba akianzisha kazi njema ndani yako uwe na uhakika ataikamilisha.


Je una wazo ndani yako unalojua ni la Mungu na unapata shida kuanza kulitekeleza?...itia jina la Yesu likusaidie. Je una wazo uliloanza kulitekeleza na una uhakika ni Mungu alikupa lakini linakupa kusuasua katika kulitekeleza?....itia jina la Yesu likusaidie.


Kesho (LEO) tutakuelekeza kwa nini Yesu alijiitia ya kuwa Yeye anatambulikana kama "aliyeko, na aliyekuwako na atakayekuja"!
Ubarikiwe.

 

[FaizaFoxy]

Verses won't lie.

Usiogope, weka verses usitujazie manamba bila mpango. Unaogopa yatakukuta kama ya jana? ulipotuwekea verse ukachakachuwa ukaweka na jina "Jesus" ili ionekane "Jesus" ndiyo kasema hayo maneno, kwenda kuchungulia sisi verses mtandaoni tukakuta hakuna Biblia inayosema hayo ni maneno ya Jesus wala hakuna "Jesus" kwenye hiyo verse.
Duh!

Eeh kijana wacha uongo, kumzulia Mtume Yesu maneno ambayo si yake.

 

[Eiyer]

Wacha kurusha, wewe unauamini huo ushahidi niliokuwekea? Kama unauamini, jibu haya:

By FaizaFoxy
Mbona mungu wako namba alishindwa kujifufuwa? msome Paulo anasemaje hapa:

1 Wakorintho 15:14
Naam, na sisi tumeonekana kuwa mashahidi wa uongo wa Mungu; kwa maana tulimshuhudia Mungu ya kuwa alimfufua Kristo, ambaye hakumfufua, ikiwa wafu hawafufuliwi.

Paulo anasema kinaga ubaga kuwa "tulimshuhudia Mungu ya kuwa alimfufua Kristo", vipi Mungu wako uliyemweka namba 2 hapo juu kidogo unaedai kuwa "anaweza yote" mbona hakujifufua?

Faiza wewe najua ni mtu mzima sasa nakushangaa sana unapokuwa kama mtoto

Uliniuliza swali halafu kabla ya kukujibi nilitaka muongozo wa namna ambavyo nitakujibu,hujanijibu maswali yangu ambayo majibu yako yangenipa muongozo ili nikujibu na matokeo yake unaniuliza tena mimi swali,huu ni utaratibu gani wa majadiliano?

Jibu maswali niliyokuuliza ili tuendelee au kama hutaki kujibu nitakuwa nimeishia hapa kwenye mjadala huu mimi na wewe!

 

[Eiyer]

Kati ya makosa ambayo kanisa catholic lilifanya na litajutia sana baadae ni kosa la KUWAAMBIA WAUMINI WAKE KWAMBA YESU NI MUNGU.,

Hili kosa ni kubwa sana na walishauriana vibaya sana kuhusu hili,Hii itawatafuna sana.

DINI NI ULAGHAI WA ZAMANI UNAOPITWA NA WAKATI.,

RELIGION AND DAITH WILL REMAIN AS WISHFUL THINKING

We jamaa bana ....

Yesu anawezaje kuwa kitu ambacho hakipo?

Mtu atadanganyaje kuhusu kitu kisichokuwepo?

 

[Ishmael]

Usiogope, weka verses usitujazie manamba bila mpango. Unaogopa yatakukuta kama ya jana? ulipotuwekea verse ukachakachuwa ukaweka na jina "Jesus" ili ionekane "Jesus" ndiyo kasema hayo maneno, kwenda kuchungulia sisi verses mtandaoni tukakuta hakuna Biblia inayosema hayo ni maneno ya Jesus wala hakuna "Jesus" kwenye hiyo verse.
Duh!

Eeh kijana wacha uongo, kumzulia Mtume Yesu maneno ambayo si yake.

Jesus proclaimed Himself to be the "Alpha and Omega" in Revelation 1:8,11;21:6; and 22:13. Alpha and omega are the first and last letters of the Greek alphabet. Among the Jewish rabbis, it was common to use the first and the last letters of the Hebrew alphabet to denote the whole of anything, from beginning to end. Jesus as the beginning and end of all things is a reference to no one but the true God. This statement of eternity could apply only to God. It is seen especially in Revelation 22:13, where Jesus proclaims that He is "the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End."