Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

[Webabu]

Labda Kuna ufisadi.
Kwamba zingine zinaenda kuuzwa pembezoni kinyemela,mzigo unaofika Ukraine unaofika robo TU.

Haya yanaipata Marekani sana kwa vile mwenyewe hataki kujitokeza.Anapenda kutuma.Watu wameshamjua ndio maana wanajichukulia chao pembeni.Malalamiko ni hayo hayo Iraq na Afghanistan.

 

[bibingi]

Kijisilaha hicho ndo cha kupigana na Russia au zimbabwe??

Alafu eti unakalisha taklol ndo uki fyatue yaani unakuwa umestarehe kabisaa ........
[emoji53][emoji53]
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[lee Vladimir cleef]

Kamanda wa majeshi ya Ukraine yaliyojichimbia kwenye mahandaki ya kiwanda cha chuma amemuomba papa Francis wa Vaticana asaidie kuokoa maisha yao.

Amesikika kwenye vidio akilalamika kuwa wamebakiwa na masaa machache tu huku akitilia maanani nyongeza ya muda wa kujisalimisha uliotolewa na Urusi huku na wao wakiwa wameishiwa na chakula na silaha na vile vile kuzingirwa kwenye njia zote za kutokea.

Huyo kamanda zaidi ya kuomba msaada kwa papa ili waokolewe amewaomba viongozi wote duniani kusaidia kuondoka salama eneo hilo hata ikiwa watapelekwa nchi nyengine ya mbali.

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Wamepewa nafasi ya kujisalimisha,hawataki,
Kwa akili Yao finyu wanadhani Kuna nch Gani katika uso wa Dunia itaweza kwenda kuwaokoa hapo?

 

[Galip Veryl]

Wadau naona nyakati za Putin zinaweza kugawanywa katika hatua kama hivi [emoji847]...

Stage ya kwanza 2000-2007.
[emoji95] Putin alikuwa akijishughulisha na uokoaji wa nchi yake iliyokaribia kuanguka na kuangamia, ambapo aliiinua na akafanikiwa kuipunguzia yale madeni makubwa yaliyokua yakiikumba nchi yake.

Wakti huo Marekani iliyatazama haya yote, ikijaribu kujibu swali: Putin ni nani? Na kisha hawakuhitaji mapinduzi kwasababu hakudai kubadilisha mfumo uliokuepo, na oligarchs walioteuliwa na Wamarekani kwa ujumla walidhibiti hali hiyo.

Stage ya pili 2007-2014.
[emoji95] Operesheni ya siri ya kurudi kulitengeneza jeshi lake ilianza, Rising of Russia was still obvious kwa hivyo mnamo 2011-2013, Wamarekani waliactivate hii wanaita '5th Column', wakisukuma ajenda ya kiliberali kupitia maandamano huko Bolotnaya na kujaribu kuingilia kati uchaguzi wa rais mnamo 2012.

Tukumbuahane kidogo kua 2012 ndio mwaka Putin aliorudi madarakani kwa mara nyingine baada ya zile awam mbili za mwanzo zilizoisha mda wake 2008.

Shambulio dhidi ya Russian World kupitia Ukraine did not leave the choice to Russia, which in the crimeria spring began.

Stage ya tatu
[emoji95] Hii tunaweza sema ndio ukawa mwanzo wa kuandaa mazingira mazuri ya kurejesha ile sovereignty yao iliyokuwa imepotea huko nyuma

Hapa kuna mabadiliko kadha wa kadha yalifanyika Russia moja wapo ambayo iko noted ni referendum ya july 2020.

Stage ya nne
[emoji95] Actual return ya sovereignty na hatua hii nahisi itaisha hivi karibuni.

Sasa tuko katika awamu kali ya makabiliano kati ya hizi Great power mbili... its like Tectonic plate increasing force pressing each other, ambayo itaisha kwa tetemeko la ardhi, na sahani hizi zitapata nafasi mpya ya kuheshimiana. Hakutakuwa na sare [emoji847]

Na hali ilivyo hakika haitakuwa sawa kama mwanzo. At stake kuna US kama kiranja wa sayari, na sasa wanatumia, Including all possible levers zote nje na ndani ya Urusi.

Na ndio huu wakati wale wanawaita dormants internal agents wakiwa activated- tunawaona wakiwa na majina ya Kirusi. Hapa ndio ile unasikia sijui nani bin nani wa Russia kaandamana kumpinga Putin [emoji1]

The tools of diplomacy stop working, na nyie mashuhuda mwaona vile negotiations haikaliki mezan kueleweka... so here we know what follows... ni US kupigana na Russia to the last Ukrainian... Baada ya hapa nazan tutaingia stage ya 5.

Stage ya 5
[emoji95] Hii itakuwa kilele na the moment of truth... hapa nahisi ndipo kutazaliwa Rasm Multipolarity na Unipolarity itazikwa kandoni mwa "atlantic" [emoji847]

Haya ndio mawazo yangu kutokana na namna navoitizama hii hali.

 

[DeepPond]

Ajab tangu waingie mzigoni sjawah sikia Ukraine wamebahatika kukamata chechen walau m1 tu dadeki [emoji3][emoji3]

Hawa jamaa wana mafunzo makali Sana,
Kila sehemu walikopita wameacha gharika.

Iangalie khakiv,
iangalie kherson,
Iangalie irplin,

Iangalie Kiev kabla Putin hajasema warudishe majeshi,

Wanatoa Kichapo balaa

 

[lee Vladimir cleef]

Sasa si wajisalimishe, vinginevyo wataishia humo.

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Wanadhani Kuna nchi inaweza kuja kuwaokoa?
Wanamuomba Papa,
Kwanza watu wenyewe wahalifu,wabakaji na wauaji wa raia wao wenyewe.

 

[DeepPond]

Chechen ni Tiktok warriors wale wanajua kuedit video kuliko kupigana. Linganisha mazingira wanayokuwepo Federal troops na hao Chechens, hata casualties nyingi wanazo Federal troops. Chechens wapo kama wahamasishaji hutokaa uwaone kwenye mapigano makali na wanakwepa sana frontline

Chechen wanatoa dozi wewe,
Afu wako well organised, wanawapiga Ukrainian kwa mbinu Kali Sana.

Kingine,
Chechens Ni Giants, viganja vyao Kama Goliath

 

[lee Vladimir cleef]

Au akawape

Labda wanataka Papa aende akawaombee misa takatifu ya maziko kabla ya kifo Chao[emoji28]

Au labda wanataka akawape Upako wa mwisho kabla ya kukata roho kwa njaa ama kombora.

 

[DeepPond]

Kiwanda kinafumuliwa muda hu

Kudadeki[emoji28]

 

[babu na mjukuu]

Hali hairidhishi. Marekani si mwanachama wa mapatano kuhusu ICC haitambui mamlaka yake. ICC iliandaa kesi dhidi ya jeshi la Uingereza; ingawa hawakuweza kumaliza angalau walichukua hatua za kwanza.
Marekani ilifuata sheria zake mara chache na kuhukumu wanajeshi walioshiriki katika jinai (mfano: Mahmudiya, Abu Greib).
Je una mifano kwamba Urusi imewahi kupeleka wanajeshi mahakamani kwa mauaji au mateso ya watu raia?
Soma kuhusu kesi ya Uingereza:
"In December 2020, the ICC’s Office of the Prosecutor decided to close its preliminary examination. The decision is based on the requirement in the ICC Rome Statute that a case is only admissible if a state is unable or unwilling to prosecute. The test for unwillingness must determine if a state intentionally shields perpetrators from prosecution. The OTP did not find sufficient evidence to prove such shielding by UK judicial authorities and thus closed the situation. However, the OTP confirmed the war crimes allegations made in ECCHR’s submissions and harshly criticized the overall domestic investigations, prosecutions and attacks on lawyers representing Iraqi victims. The OTP announced the possibility of reopening investigations should certain information come to light that would enable them to prove the UK is unable or unwilling to prosecute." War crimes by UK forces in Iraq

Hivi wewe unawatete hao walaaniwa!!?
Umesahau kuna wakati hao wanajeshi wao walipotoka huko Iraq(sikumbuki ilikuwa wa kati wa Bushi baba au mtoto) walikuja baadhi yao kupumzika Tanzania. Matokeo yake walimbaka dada yetu mmoja mpaka akafa.
Walipokamatwa serekali yao ikatumia ubabe wakaachiwa muda mfupi baadae na kuondoka salama salmini!?

Acha Putin awakomeshe hawa mabaradhuli

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[DeepPond]

Warlord/Mbabe wa kivita

Jamaa ana morali ya vita balaa,
afu askali wake wanatii mno, na Wana utu Sana[emoji4]

 

[DeepPond]

Hauna ushaidi ndio maana hatuwezi kukuamini

Juwachukua raia na kuwaficha kwenye mahandaki unaona Ni fair?

Ni wapi umeskia Russians wanaua raia asiye na silaha?

 

[manning]

Tulia Putin akutie nyembe

Hizo ndege zote zitakuwa chakula cha S-400

Au S-500 au S-550 mbona patamu hapo👊👊👊

 

[babu na mjukuu]

Inaonekana ndani ya hao Askari wa Ukrane kuna siri kubwa, maana Ukrane anavyohaha na hao Askari sio mchezo.

Asilimia kubwa ni kutoka kwa mabwana zao. Wanaogopa wakifa hawataletewa tena misaada

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[DeepPond]

Acha kuwavunjia heshima hawa watu walisha itoa makamasi Urusi sema tu walikosa msaada wa silaha kama anao pata Ukrain.

Hao jamaa kabla hawajaungana na urusi,
Putin alichezea Kichapo Cha haha, ikabd aungane nao.

Ukiondoa teknolojia,
Chechens ndo wana jeshi imara Sana la ardhini mpk Sasa.

 

[lee Vladimir cleef]

View attachment 2194237Wadau naona nyakati za Putin zinaweza kugawanywa katika hatua kama hivi [emoji847]...

Stage ya kwanza 2000-2007.
[emoji95] Putin alikuwa akijishughulisha na uokoaji wa nchi yake iliyokaribia kuanguka na kuangamia, ambapo aliiinua na akafanikiwa kuipunguzia yale madeni makubwa yaliyokua yakiikumba nchi yake.

Wakti huo Marekani iliyatazama haya yote, ikijaribu kujibu swali: Putin ni nani? Na kisha hawakuhitaji mapinduzi kwasababu hakudai kubadilisha mfumo uliokuepo, na oligarchs walioteuliwa na Wamarekani kwa ujumla walidhibiti hali hiyo.

Stage ya pili 2007-2014.
[emoji95] Operesheni ya siri ya kurudi kulitengeneza jeshi lake ilianza, Rising of Russia was still obvious kwa hivyo mnamo 2011-2013, Wamarekani waliactivate hii wanaita '5th Column', wakisukuma ajenda ya kiliberali kupitia maandamano huko Bolotnaya na kujaribu kuingilia kati uchaguzi wa rais mnamo 2012.

Tukumbuahane kidogo kua 2012 ndio mwaka Putin aliorudi madarakani kwa mara nyingine baada ya zile awam mbili za mwanzo zilizoisha mda wake 2008.

Shambulio dhidi ya Russian World kupitia Ukraine did not leave the choice to Russia, which in the crimeria spring began.

Stage ya tatu
[emoji95] Hii tunaweza sema ndio ukawa mwanzo wa kuandaa mazingira mazuri ya kurejesha ile sovereignty yao iliyokuwa imepotea huko nyuma

Hapa kuna mabadiliko kadha wa kadha yalifanyika Russia moja wapo ambayo iko noted ni referendum ya july 2020.

Stage ya nne
[emoji95] Actual return ya sovereignty na hatua hii nahisi itaisha hivi karibuni.

Sasa tuko katika awamu kali ya makabiliano kati ya hizi Great power mbili... its like Tectonic plate increasing force pressing each other, ambayo itaisha kwa tetemeko la ardhi, na sahani hizi zitapata nafasi mpya ya kuheshimiana. Hakutakuwa na sare [emoji847]

Na hali ilivyo hakika haitakuwa sawa kama mwanzo. At stake kuna US kama kiranja wa sayari, na sasa wanatumia, Including all possible levers zote nje na ndani ya Urusi.

Na ndio huu wakati wale wanawaita dormants internal agents wakiwa activated- tunawaona wakiwa na majina ya Kirusi. Hapa ndio ile unasikia sijui nani bin nani wa Russia kaandamana kumpinga Putin [emoji1]

The tools of diplomacy stop working, na nyie mashuhuda mwaona vile negotiations haikaliki mezan kueleweka... so here we know what follows... ni US kupigana na Russia to the last Ukrainian... Baada ya hapa nazan tutaingia stage ya 5.

Stage ya 5
[emoji95] Hii itakuwa kilele na the moment of truth... hapa nahisi ndipo kutazaliwa Rasm Multipolarity na Unipolarity itazikwa kandoni mwa "atlantic" [emoji847]

Haya ndio mawazo yangu kutokana na namna navoitizama hii hali.

Haya sio mawazo Yako ndugu,
Bali umepewa maono halisi.
Haya ni maoni kabisa.

 

[Galip Veryl]

Hawa jamaa wana mafunzo makali Sana,
Kila sehemu walikopita wameacha gharika.

Iangalie khakiv,
iangalie kherson,
Iangalie irplin,

Iangalie Kiev kabla Putin hajasema warudishe majeshi,

Wanatoa Kichapo balaa

Kabisa, wapo tu walioumia niliowaona...
Wanapigana kwa kuangaliana. Hata yule anayepata majeruhi haachwi nyuma. Kuna video moja hivi nilikuwa naitizama namna walivyokuwa wanamtoa mwenzao eneo la mapigano.

Yani shaba zinapigwa juu huku wengine wakifanya uokozi, then kuna sijui niite wimbo ama nini unasikika kwa pembeni.

Morali wake sio wa nchi hii [emoji847]

Na kama kuna Chechen aliekufa, basi wanajitahidi kuhifadhi casualties wao. Nakumbuka mwanzo kuna AZOV mmoja hivi alitangaza kua atakata Vichwa vya Chechen avicheze mpira ajab haikupita hata siku 3 akadakwa na hao hao Chechen. Walichomfanya wanajua wao [emoji847][emoji847][emoji847]

 

[DeepPond]

makelele mengi ayatakiwi wakutane uwanja wa vita wapasuane. propaganda azina msaada kwa hali ya sasa ilipofikia.

Nakazia
USA,NATO, EU washike silaha waingie vitani

Tushachoka propaganda, sijui sanctions na makelele kibao[emoji28]

 

[DeepPond]

Alipigwa kwa kushtukiza akapoteza vifaa vyake vyote,walibak na bunduki tu,hawana kifaru wa ndege hata moja. Lakini misaada kiduchu imewafanya kumrudisha adui nyuma sana ambae ana kila takataka ya kuuwa na kuangamiza lakini bado kapigwa

Ha ha ha....
Eti bado urus kapigwa[emoji28]

 

[DeepPond]

US Fears Ukraine Arms BLACK HOLE - Admits Kiev Information Operation


A US Defense official has reportedly admitted to CNN that the government is struggling to trace exactly where huge shipments of “lethal aid” to Kiev end up, calling their destination a “big black hole”.


The White House has apparently accepted that some arms will fall into unintended hands, as their intelligence services have “almost zero” ability to keep track of them, while admitting the importance of Kiev’s PR campaign.


“Everything [Ukrainian officials] do and say publicly is designed to help them win the war,” a source told the network. “Every interview, every Zelensky appearance broadcast is an information operation.”

USA wamedata,
wanatuma silaha kibao afu zinatumbukia kwenye black hole

Hazieleweki zinakoishia na zinachokifanya[emoji28]

Bravo kwa Putin na kadyrov,
Aisee, nasema Kichapo kiendelee[emoji4][emoji106]