Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

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Kua

Kuanzia Leo natoka u pro Russia na kuhamia u Pro USA /NATO.
Nafanya hivi ili kuziba pengo la pro NATO waliotoroka.
Lengo ni kubalance mjadala wa Op

jichanganye mwishowe utufie na presha bure kutoka kwa urusi, na hakuna mtu wa kukuokota.

 

[East]

Siku hizi Zelensky amepunguza kujipiga 'selfie' na kupost FB😆😆 hapana chezea iskandar na hypersonic! 🇷🇺

hana bando huyo, kakopa sana anadaiwa pesa nyingi na Branch(USA)

 

[wa kupuliza]

Mjeremani na Mjapan wale ni wanaume kabisaa.

Wanapenda ugomvi na vita kuliko kula wakiamua hutoboi... Wana akili Wana silaha, Wana pesa Wana ujasiri na roho ya ukatili.

Ndio maana Mmarekani anawaheshimu saana he can't mess with them maana anawajua wakiamua... Lazma wakutoe kamasi.

Good things wamekuwa na staha siku hizi wanayaangalia mataifa Duniani wanaona Hawa bado hawajielewi.

Japan na Germany Ni wake za USA kwa Sasa na USA anajichagulia tu leo anumuweka yupi doggy kesho Nani apigwe Popo kanyea mbingu style.Hamna kitu Tena pale

 

[rodrick alexander]

Ha ha ha ..
Hawa UK walikua wanajifanya Ni wazee wa intelligence, kila Siku kimbele mbele kutoa umbea.

Much respect to Russian hackers[emoji4]

Walikuw wanajifanya kina James Bond

 

[Mr Tyang]

Hawa ndio wanafanya Idadi ya wanaume ipungue duniani. Tunapokosa analyzing power inafanya kila kitu kiwe kigumu, tunatafuta mchawi kumbe wachawi ni sisi wenyewe.

Kuelimisha watu Raha sana Mr Tyang, kwani kupitia kuelimisha unapata kuelimika pia. Ila hakuna kitu kigumu na kinaboa sana kukifanya kama kumuelimisha asiyetaka kuelimika.

Kuna post kwenye Uzi wa mjomba mmoja hapa JF, sikumbuki ni nani jana nimeusoma... Maelezo yake yamelenga sehem nyingine ila kuna maudhui yanafanana na namna walivyo hawa Pro-west.

Ndani ya maelezo yake kuna sehem anasema kua "Ingekuaje leo Kuku, tunaowafuga wakija jua kua lengo haswa la kufugwa kwao ni kuliwa na kufanyiwa biashara, wataendelea kukaa bandani?Jibu ni hapana, lakini namna tunavyowasafishia mabanda yao, kuwapatia chakula, na kuwatibu wakiugua lau kama wangekuwa wanazungumza Kuku mmoja wapo akawaambia kua huyu binadam hafanyi hivi bure. Anatulisha ili baadae atuchinje wangemuelewa?"

Hayo aliyasema alikuwa anaizungumzia mifugo kama mifugo ila mimi niliisoma huku nawawaza hawa vibarawasho wetu, Ukoo wa LGBTQA+ tawi la Mwembe yanga.

Wana mfano huo, Hakuna mfugaji anakubali mfugo wake ujue dhumuni lake. Na kila wakiambiwa evil intentions za hawa huzikataa kwa kuziita "Conspiracies". Mkuu Wenzetu wanahadaika sana tena sana ila lengo la "free-lunch" wanaziba macho kuliona.

Tanzania kuna Fursa nyingi sana ambazo kuzipata zinahitaji change of Mindset, kutoka "Broilers" oriented kua "hard" oriented.

Tuache mazingira ya kuishi kama wa kuku wa kisasa, mda wote tupo bandani tunasubiri bwana mifugo alete tupate ku-survive, kwamba akipata dharula na sie tumekwisha. tuishi kiasili, tuishi kwa kujitegemea msaada uwe third Option.

Kwamba uwepo Usiwepo hauna athari kubwa sana na sie.

Sasa vitu cheap kiasi hicho tu kujua kua Uzalishaji na Uhitaji ni vitu viwili tofauti, kujikomboa kwenye mikono yao tutaweza kweli au ndo tutaendelea kutumika kama Toilet Paper na kuwa dumped kila baada ya matumizi?

Kama baba wa familia, mwanao ni fundi tena mjenzi mzuri tu. Unamkataza asijenge unamuita jirani akujengee kwa sharti la kumla mkeo unakubali ilhali option za kuepuka hiyo fedheha ipo. Hapo kichwani kutakuwa na uzima kweli?

Safari ya matumaini bado ndefu mno, hiki kizazi tuliopo sisi kipo kwenye ule msemo wa samaki mkunje angali mbichi, Hiki chetu kishakauka.

Option nyepesi tulio nayo mezani ni kuwageukia wadogo zetu na watoto zetu. Kuwawahi kabla hawajalemaa mfano wa hawa tulio nao hivi sasa. There only we can be assured to change for the better.

Wenzetu wana haiba kama ya upande waliopo, they think wanajua each of everything... Wanaenda beyond na kuhisi wao hawakosei. Mfano, karibu haya yote yanayowatokea West hivi sasa, Miongoni mwetu tuliyasema siku za awali kabisa enzi zile wanashinda kuweka vikwazo Russia.

We tried harder kusema "hiki" si sawa, au "njia" ile itasababisha hivi na vile ila tulipewa reply za dhihaka nyingi tu hapa like "We kijana wa Unyanyembe unajua hilo mzungu hajui?", Maraa ooh "Kwa hiyo wewe unajua kuliko west" ha ha ha tena Most katika hao hivi sasa washakimbia huu uzi kitambo.

Any way mdo mdo tu tutafika!

Hahah, Huo mfano wa kuku alio utoa mwamba una hoja nzito sana ndani yake,
Nisahihi kabisa kwamba kama kuku wangekuwa wanaongea halafu wakasikia kuwa anae wajali kwa kuwapa chakula, chanjo, maji na sehemu ya kulala lengo lake niku wachinja au kuwauza baadae, hakika kuku hao wasingeelewa na wangemuona anae wambia hayo maneno kama mchonganishi na anachuki binafsi dhidi ya mfugaji wao.

Hiki ndio kinatokea kwa pro-West na USA tunapowambia nia ovu zilizo jificha nyuma ya neno misaada ya hao Wazungu, wanatuona kama tuna chuki binafsi na hao watu na tunaongea vitu vya kusadikika.

Inasikitisha sana kuona kizazi cha karne hii ya 21 bado kinafurahia misaada huku kikiendelea kunyonywa na kuwa tegemezi kila siku. yani kijana mbichi wa kisasa bado ana akili kama za mababu zetu enzi za ukoloni waliokuwa wanapewa zawadi ya vioo vya kujiangalia sura, nguo na shanga wao wanatoa dhahabu, Almasi, Ardhi, Nguvu kazi na n.k huku wakiendelea kumuabudu mzungu kwa vitu hivyo alivyo waletea kama zawadi na misaada pasipo kufikiri thamani ya vitu vinavyochukuliwa kutoka kwao.

Kuna kipindi nchi yetu chini ya jpm ilianza kueneza ideology ya kujitegemea kiasi kilichotufanya Tanzania tujione kama miongoni mwa nchi zenye hadhi duniani(DONA KANTRI) ikafika wakati hadi tukaanza kutoa misaada ya kibinadamu nchi jirani za Zimbabwe [emoji1269], Malawi[emoji1156] na Msumbiji [emoji1174] (ref:2019) na hata kupaza sauti kwa mabeberu kuiondolea vikwazo Zimbabwe. Hakika tungeendelea na hii spirit tungekuwa mbali sana sasaiv, lakini kwavile taifa limejaa wavivu na wapenda misaada baada ya kupotea tu kiongozi wa hiyo ideology hayati JPM ghafla tukarudi kwenye utaratibu wa kutembeza bakuri nje na kuaminishwa tena nchi haiwezi kujiendesha yenyewe. HAPA SUALA LA MFUMO NA UJINGA NDO SHIDA, NCHI NYINGI ZA AFRIKA HAZINA MFUMO IMARA NA ZIMEJAA WATU WAJINGA KUANZIA KWA VIONGOZI HADI RAIA WAKE.

☆Ili kujinasua kwenye huu mtego wa misaada maamuzi magumu na akili kubwa kwa pamoja vinahitajika, CHINA [emoji630] miaka ya 1961+ ilikuwa ni miongoni mwa nchi masikini duniani ikiwa na GDP ya around $50B, leo hii tunaongelea China yenye GDP ya $14T+ what a gap?
Mabadiliko hayo hayakuja kwa akili hizi za kutegemea msaada bali waliamua kuchukua njia yao na kuanzisha sera zao walizo ona zinawafaa kunyanyua uchumi wao miongoni mwa sera hizo zilikuwa ni sera ya ujamaa na kujitegemea, sera ya kujenga taifa lenye watu wengi kwajili ya nguvu kazi, China Kwanza na n.k

Kwetu bado tunashangalia misaada ya Kondomu, matundu ya vyoo, vyandarua na barakoa kweli tupo serious?

Urusi inatakiwa irefushe hii operation mpaka ifikie mahali vyuma vikaze kwa watoa misaada harafu nione kama nchi za Afrika hazitaweza kujiendesha bila misaada. Pia operation iendelee ili Urafiki wote wa kinafiki baina ya Afrika na mataifa ya ulaya na amerika uvurugike na kila mtu aanze kupambana na hali yake baada ya muda huko mbele naamimi kila taifa litakuwa lishajua namna ya kuishi bila kutegemea sponsors maana sponsor hufa au kuugua

I stand with Russia[emoji635][emoji635]

 

[Washawasha]

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Kama kawaida yetu Pro russia ni watu wa vitendo kama Rais wa dunia PUTIN.
Certificate of Appreciation kwenu.
NB.Kuna nyingine zitakuja maana kuna watu wengi tu hawapo kama vile Morogoro kaskazini na wengine.

Mkuu hii wale wa upande mwengine roho inawauma ila hawana jinsi,hahahahaha
Nalog off Z

 

[Washawasha]

wale jamaa zetu waitwao "saboteurs"

"Saboteurs" wao hupita na kuweka alama za kiintelijensia kuonyesha wapi pana maghala ya silaha au mahandaki padunguliwe na kufanywa mkeka.

Hawa jamaa nawakubali sana kwa kazi zao
Nalog off Z

 

[Mr Tyang]

Nchi size ya mkoa? Katika category ipi? Eneo? Idadi ya watu? Uchumi? Maendeleo? au? What's the basic of your reference?Kama ni ukubwa wa eneo, Kagera ni mara 1 na nusu ya ukubwa wa eneo la nchi ya Rwanda but Rwanda Population is 5 to 6 times of Kagera Region, Europe is 0.6 big as Russia but is 7 times more populated than Russia. So How do you categorise this is Region or this is Nation?

As of June 2, the area occupied by dictator Putin is one third of Vietnam where we took 20 years for nothing. Its one sixth of Afghanistan where we took 20 years for nothing too. After all dispite large area of Russia compared to Ukraine, Russia is only three times populated than Ukraine. 40m against 120m.

You had better compared them in term of military, there you could have my back. Land area of a country have nothing to do with this. Nawashauri tujengeni hoja zenye nguvu tushindane nao warusi weusi tuelimike. Wepesi ni wengi kwao, wachache sana among them wanajua what they are talking about. Those who knows nothing are being covered by few. We could have outsmarted them by far only by arguing intellectually.

Napenda sana namna unavyo changia mada mkuu, kama Pro-NATO wote wangekuwa wanatoa hoja kama hizi basi huu uzi ungekuwa Hot sana zaidi ya ulivyo.

Huyu mkenya MK254 nadhani kuna mahali kichwa chake kina shida maana yeye hoja yake huwa ni Kuhusu eneo tu, sasa sijui nani alimwambia eneo ndo linapigana, kwa akili zake anaamini nchi yenye eneo kubwa ndo ina nguvu ya kijeshi, mfano, anaamini Canada inaweza ipiga kijeshi USA kisa tu Canada ni kubwa kuliko USA.

Sisi tulisha elimisha hadi tukampuuza tukaamua abaki na ujinga wake labda wewe atakuelewa kwavile ni Pro-NATO mwenzie.
Japo kati ya ng'ombe zilizo kwenye huu uzi hiyo nayo ni ng'ombe haswaa na sidhani kama itakuelewa haraka.

 

[Extrovert]

Kuna hatari kufikia mwakani ikagonga one-to-one[emoji28]

Utakuwa ndio mwisho wa US

 

[MK254]

Pole Sana,ukweli unaujua Urusi haipigani na Ukraine yenyewe,ina wanajeshi kutoka zaidi ya 30 za mashoga na wengine,inapewa military intelligence na US,pesa,silaha etc,but 🇷🇺 is still fvcking them harder! 3 hrs ago, Putin amesema OP inaendelea,this time mpaka Kiev!tulia,nakuhakikishia,kama 🇷🇺 kufika Kiev ndo benchmark yako kukimbia humu,tulia!

Siku hiyo Urusi itakosea njia iguse kataifa kamoja ka NATO kama vile kajirani kake hapo Latvia ndio itaelewa nini maana ya kipigo cha mataifa 30, kwnza humo kwenye hayo mataifa ya NATO kunayo machache supapawa yenye uwezo ya kuiliza Urusi yenyewe bila muungano, maana ameonyesha udhaifu mkubwa sana kushindwa na haka kataifa kadogo....

 

[MK254]

Nchi size ya mkoa? Katika category ipi? Eneo? Idadi ya watu? Uchumi? Maendeleo? au? What's the basic of your reference?Kama ni ukubwa wa eneo, Kagera ni mara 1 na nusu ya ukubwa wa eneo la nchi ya Rwanda but Rwanda Population is 5 to 6 times of Kagera Region, Europe is 0.6 big as Russia but is 7 times more populated than Russia. So How do you categorise this is Region or this is Nation?

As of June 2, the area occupied by dictator Putin is one third of Vietnam where we took 20 years for nothing. Its one sixth of Afghanistan where we took 20 years for nothing too. After all dispite large area of Russia compared to Ukraine, Russia is only three times populated than Ukraine. 40m against 120m.

You had better compared them in term of military, there you could have my back. Land area of a country have nothing to do with this. Nawashauri tujengeni hoja zenye nguvu tushindane nao warusi weusi tuelimike. Wepesi ni wengi kwao, wachache sana among them wanajua what they are talking about. Those who knows nothing are being covered by few. We could have outsmarted them by far only by arguing intellectually.

Angalia hii ramani upate aibu uache hizi insha, miezi mitano sasa mumeambulia tumiji twa huko mipakani licha ya kuingia hasara ambayo ni zaidi ya inventory ya jeshi lote la JWTZ
Urusi rauni hii hata waarabu na dini yao wamemkimbia, mumebaki nyie tu huko kwa Mtongole...

 

[PD_Magumba]

Siku hiyo Urusi itakosea njia iguse kataifa kamoja ka NATO kama vile kajirani kake hapo Latvia ndio itaelewa nini maana ya kipigo cha mataifa 30, kwnza humo kwenye hayo mataifa ya NATO kunayo machache supapawa yenye uwezo ya kuiliza Urusi yenyewe bila muungano, maana ameonyesha udhaifu mkubwa sana kushindwa na haka kataifa kadogo....

Naona una endelea kuota ndoto tena za mchana

 

[MK254]

Naona una endelea kuota ndoto tena za mchana

Siku mkiweza kuteka Kiev uniamshe kwenye ndoto zangu, supapawa la hovyo sana, kainchi kadogo hapo jirani kameshindikana, halafu huyu ndiye waarabu humtegemea jameni....

 

[lee Vladimir cleef]

jichanganye mwishowe utufie na presha bure kutoka kwa urusi, na hakuna mtu wa kukuokota.

🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
NATO oyee,
Putin Kafa,huyu aliepo ni wa kutengeneza,

Russia inmeishiwa silaha,

Umeishiwa chakula,ikaiba supamarket na Sasa inasafirisha kwa meli.

Makomando wa Ukraine wameingia ndani ya St Petersburg.
Wa NATO wanaelekea Moscow.
Putin kakimbilia china.

Aisee kumbe naota.!!!
Da kutetea uongo kazi sana,narudi home.
Kwenye haki na Ukweli.

 

[lee Vladimir cleef]

😂😂😂😂😂Atutaki zile point za OP ya masaa 24 mwezi wa tatu huu Putin anamanga manga.

Kiinchi kidogo kinayumbisha nchi kubwa@grand master kashaitolea ufafanuzi.

Haendi kyvi anapambana na vi mji vidogo vidgo vya uko pembeni kama simiyu.

Russia hana chakula cha kupambana miezi mitatu atanyoosha mikono juu.

Russia na pro Russia wote masikini.

Putin dictator.

Karibu pro west.

🤣🤣🤣Aisee nimejaribu kitete NATO nikagundua natetea genge la wahalifu.
Nimeshindwa mwana,narudi nyumbani kwa maskini wemzetu akina Urusi na China.

 

[Cash Generating Unit]

Mjeremani na Mjapan wale ni wanaume kabisaa.

Wanapenda ugomvi na vita kuliko kula wakiamua hutoboi... Wana akili Wana silaha, Wana pesa Wana ujasiri na roho ya ukatili.

Ndio maana Mmarekani anawaheshimu saana he can't mess with them maana anawajua wakiamua... Lazma wakutoe kamasi.

Good things wamekuwa na staha siku hizi wanayaangalia mataifa Duniani wanaona Hawa bado hawajielewi.

Imebid nikujibu, hao Japan na Germany ilikua zamani sio sasa. Walishakubali kumpa maisha yao US hawana maajabu sikuhizi. Hao wote wanategemea jeshi la US hawana maajabu yoyote ni takataka

 

[MR MAJANGA]

Baada ya Donbass yote kukombolewa, Putin amesema wanajeshi waendelee na vita, Wale waliokuwa wanasema Urusi ilishindwa kuingia Kiev,nnawaambia" "STAY TUNED"

Mimi toka Russia awaambie NATO kuwa baada ya miaka miwili Ukraine itafutika kwenye ramani ya dunia naanzaje kubisha 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

[Cash Generating Unit]

Angalia hii ramani upate aibu uache hizi insha, miezi mitano sasa mumeambulia tumiji twa huko mipakani licha ya kuingia hasara ambayo ni zaidi ya inventory ya jeshi lote la JWTZ
Urusi rauni hii hata waarabu na dini yao wamemkimbia, mumebaki nyie tu huko kwa Mtongole...

Tufafanulie vzr jumla na hasara aliyopata Russia kwenye hii operation.

 

[ngaboru]

Siku hiyo Urusi itakosea njia iguse kataifa kamoja ka NATO kama vile kajirani kake hapo Latvia ndio itaelewa nini maana ya kipigo cha mataifa 30, kwnza humo kwenye hayo mataifa ya NATO kunayo machache supapawa yenye uwezo ya kuiliza Urusi yenyewe bila muungano, maana ameonyesha udhaifu mkubwa sana kushindwa na haka kataifa kadogo....

Mguswe mara ngapi jamani???
Na hamja retaliate system za kodi zimehackiwa na Russia ila kimya,Uk jeshi limeguswa kimya.

Mnataka mguso gani ili mumfanye hamna Russia.

Na Russia alivyo mhuni haonei taifa dogo tena ni hao wakubwa kawagusa na ni kimya mpaka sasa ivi.

 

[ngaboru]

Imebid nikujibu, hao Japan na Germany ilikua zamani sio sasa. Walishakubali kumpa maisha yao US hawana maajabu sikuhizi. Hao wote wanategemea jeshi la US hawana maajabu yoyote ni takataka

Hawajatoa kwa hiyari yao ni baada ya kushindwa katika vita wakapewa mikataba ambayo inawabana mfano umiliki wa vifaa vya kijeshi,idadi ya wanajeshi,kulipa hasara ya fidia ya vita walivyovianzisha.

Kwa mfano sasa ivi itokee Russia kashindwa vita (proxy war) ndio walioshinda kuna treat watamsainisha ili kumkontrol.

😃😃😃😃😃Ni suala la muda tuu naamini na wenyewe wanajikusanya ili wawe independent.