Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

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Hongera Sana hiki cheti fanya bendera ya Russia iwepo au colours zile za Russia itapendeza Zaid

NAKAZIA

 

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Vijana bado mmelala haya kumekucha,

🇷🇺🇺🇦 A powerful blow was inflicted on the facilities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Kramatorsk tonight.

The mayor of Slavyansk, who is also in the direction of the Allied offensive, said that the city has become a front-line city.

 

[Bugucha]

Siku hiyo Urusi itakosea njia iguse kataifa kamoja ka NATO kama vile kajirani kake hapo Latvia ndio itaelewa nini maana ya kipigo cha mataifa 30, kwnza humo kwenye hayo mataifa ya NATO kunayo machache supapawa yenye uwezo ya kuiliza Urusi yenyewe bila muungano, maana ameonyesha udhaifu mkubwa sana kushindwa na haka kataifa kadogo....

Huna hata aibu,taja hayo mataifa ambayo yanaweza kuikalisha Urusi,mwa mjibu wa NATO,walisema wameanza kujitayarisha kwa hii vita kutoka 2014,mpaka sasa hivi,Ila bado wanapigwa.

 

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Hahah, Huo mfano wa kuku alio utoa mwamba una hoja nzito sana ndani yake,
Nisahihi kabisa kwamba kama kuku wangekuwa wanaongea halafu wakasikia kuwa anae wajali kwa kuwapa chakula, chanjo, maji na sehemu ya kulala lengo lake niku wachinja au kuwauza baadae, hakika kuku hao wasingeelewa na wangemuona anae wambia hayo maneno kama mchonganishi na anachuki binafsi dhidi ya mfugaji wao.

Hiki ndio kinatokea kwa pro-West na USA tunapowambia nia ovu zilizo jificha nyuma ya neno misaada ya hao Wazungu, wanatuona kama tuna chuki binafsi na hao watu na tunaongea vitu vya kusadikika.

Inasikitisha sana kuona kizazi cha karne hii ya 21 bado kinafurahia misaada huku kikiendelea kunyonywa na kuwa tegemezi kila siku. yani kijana mbichi wa kisasa bado ana akili kama za mababu zetu enzi za ukoloni waliokuwa wanapewa zawadi ya vioo vya kujiangalia sura, nguo na shanga wao wanatoa dhahabu, Almasi, Ardhi, Nguvu kazi na n.k huku wakiendelea kumuabudu mzungu kwa vitu hivyo alivyo waletea kama zawadi na misaada pasipo kufikiri thamani ya vitu vinavyochukuliwa kutoka kwao.

Kuna kipindi nchi yetu chini ya jpm ilianza kueneza ideology ya kujitegemea kiasi kilichotufanya Tanzania tujione kama miongoni mwa nchi zenye hadhi duniani(DONA KANTRI) ikafika wakati hadi tukaanza kutoa misaada ya kibinadamu nchi jirani za Zimbabwe [emoji1269], Malawi[emoji1156] na Msumbiji [emoji1174] (ref:2019) na hata kupaza sauti kwa mabeberu kuiondolea vikwazo Zimbabwe. Hakika tungeendelea na hii spirit tungekuwa mbali sana sasaiv, lakini kwavile taifa limejaa wavivu na wapenda misaada baada ya kupotea tu kiongozi wa hiyo ideology hayati JPM ghafla tukarudi kwenye utaratibu wa kutembeza bakuri nje na kuaminishwa tena nchi haiwezi kujiendesha yenyewe. HAPA SUALA LA MFUMO NA UJINGA NDO SHIDA, NCHI NYINGI ZA AFRIKA HAZINA MFUMO IMARA NA ZIMEJAA WATU WAJINGA KUANZIA KWA VIONGOZI HADI RAIA WAKE.

☆Ili kujinasua kwenye huu mtego wa misaada maamuzi magumu na akili kubwa kwa pamoja vinahitajika, CHINA [emoji630] miaka ya 1961+ ilikuwa ni miongoni mwa nchi masikini duniani ikiwa na GDP ya around $50B, leo hii tunaongelea China yenye GDP ya $14T+ what a gap?
Mabadiliko hayo hayakuja kwa akili hizi za kutegemea msaada bali waliamua kuchukua njia yao na kuanzisha sera zao walizo ona zinawafaa kunyanyua uchumi wao miongoni mwa sera hizo zilikuwa ni sera ya ujamaa na kujitegemea, sera ya kujenga taifa lenye watu wengi kwajili ya nguvu kazi, China Kwanza na n.k

Kwetu bado tunashangalia misaada ya Kondomu, matundu ya vyoo, vyandarua na barakoa kweli tupo serious?

Urusi inatakiwa irefushe hii operation mpaka ifikie mahali vyuma vikaze kwa watoa misaada harafu nione kama nchi za Afrika hazitaweza kujiendesha bila misaada. Pia operation iendelee ili Urafiki wote wa kinafiki baina ya Afrika na mataifa ya ulaya na amerika uvurugike na kila mtu aanze kupambana na hali yake baada ya muda huko mbele naamimi kila taifa litakuwa lishajua namna ya kuishi bila kutegemea sponsors maana sponsor hufa au kuugua

I stand with Russia[emoji635][emoji635]

 

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Kama kawaida yetu Pro russia ni watu wa vitendo kama Rais wa dunia PUTIN.
Certificate of Appreciation kwenu.
NB.Kuna nyingine zitakuja maana kuna watu wengi tu hawapo kama vile Morogoro kaskazini na wengine.

Ewaaa Mkuu tukumbukane

 

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Chukua GDP mbili (ya bara zima la Africa jumlisha na ya Russia) yathaminishe makorokoro yote unayofikiria yalipaswa kuhesabiwa katika GDP zao ili huwa hayawekwi. Hayo ni pamoja na mchicha, viazi mbatata vyako unavyolima, huduma za kuhudumia nyumba wanazotoa wake zenu na michepuko n.k Badilisha nominal GDP ya sasa ya US iwe actual na katika mfumo wa PPP ili ipungue, bado jumla ya GDP mbili za Africa na Russia hazitafika nusu ya US.

Hapa kwetu Tanzania walio wengi wananunua Umeme katika rate ya 26kwh kwa Tsh 10k. Hii bei nikiwa wrong mta-nisahihisha japo kwa Meter nayotumia nagharamika kama hivyo.

Maana ake ni kua kwa bei yetu ya 10k kwa 26kwh (kilo watts hour) itanigharimu kama Tsh 385k ili nipate umeme wa 1,000kwh ambayo ndio 1 Mega-Watt Hour.

Kama wao wanalipia 790Euro per MWH Sie hapa tunalipia 155Euro per MWH (nifahamike kua nime-convert 385,000 Tsh to Euro). Fedha zote hizo ukiziweka kwenye pesa ya Tanzania. Ni kua kwa the same amount of electricity, that's 1Mega-watt Hour. Sisi tunalipia Tsh 385,000/- wao wanalipia Tsh 1,960,000/-. Hii ni mara 5 zaidi kiliko sisi.

Nimeamua kuisherehesha hii post kwa kusudi moja tu. Kuna dhana potofu watu weusi tuko nayo, most of us utasikia tunasema ooh Europe wanalipa mishahara mikubwa n.k. lakini hatuangalii expense kulinganisha na mishahara yao.

Tunashangaa sana number, nimeona Mr Tyang na Galip Vrl wamezungumzia kuhusu analysis. Hapa pia huwa kuna tatizo. Europe mtu anaweza kulipwa Euro 1,500 per month, hii ipo around 4Millions za kibongo. Zinaonekana nyingi on Paper ila ukizipeleka kwenye matumizi ni chache mno kwa mazingira yale.

Huezi kupanga chumba cha Tsh 40k, ambazo ni Euro 16 kule kwao. But nje ya Dar kwa hapa Tanzania, Tsh 40k unapata chumba safi mno.

Hii issue ni pana kwani hata concept ya GDP unaweza kuijumuisha pia.

Mfano,
Mimi leo nikilima shamba, kila chakula nikawa najitegemea. Mahindi nalima, Mpunga nalima, Mchicha nalima, Almost kila kitu nakifanya mwenyewe.

Hapa nitanufaika lakini Hizi shughuli zote hazitakuwa reflected kwenye pato la taifa since hakutakuwa na Movement of "Cash" wala Shughuli kutoka kwa kundi moja kwenda kundi lingine.

Mfano wa kwanza huo, wa pili. Imagine katika mazingira kama haya. Mchicha nanunua kwa John, Karanga kwa Ayubu, Mahindi kwa Mabula, Mchele kwa Mwamposa, Mafuta kwa Mangi, Ndizi kwa Rutashobya. Hapa kunakuwa na Movement kubwa ya Cash, kunakuwa na shughuli nyingi. Hizi zote zinakuwa reflected kwenye hii kitu tunaita GDP. Pato la Taifa. So GDP inapea.

Hii mifano miwili sikidhamiria kuileta kwenye reply ya kaka mkubwa hapa. Imenibidi niitoe kwani yafanana na kile nilichokua nataka kukisema kupitia reply yake.

Mifano hiyo miwili inaweza kuwapa majibu katika nyanja hizi.
[emoji842]Kwanini Nchi kama Russia, Kwanini Nchi kama Singapore au South Korea.

[emoji842]Kwanini Mkoa kama Dar es Salaam, na Kwanini Mkoa kama Mbeya, Ruvuma n.k

[emoji842]Of course itawapa majibu kwanini tulisema yule anayejiita Yoda tulimwambia hajui kitu upande huu alipokuwa analinganisha Pato la Taifa GDP na Thamani ya Kampuni Sokoni (Market Cap.)

Dar, kitunguu unanua, Mchicha unanunua, Muhogo wa kutafuna unanunua, Maji Visima hakuna mnanunua kwa kifupi Most katika vitu unahitaji ni kazi za watu. So mzunguko wa fedha na wingi wa shughuli ambazo ndio Uchumi wenyewe ni mkubwa, So there we go, unaambiwa kua Dar ina 17% of Tanzania GDP.

Mind you Uchumi sio Pesa, Uchumi ni shughuli za kibinadam ambazo of course ni issue zinazohusiana na fedha. Lakini Uchumi kama Uchumi sio how much you have bank au mfukoni.

Again ukichimba deep, utakuta all these stuffs zina mahusiano kiasi na flan na Culture, I mean life style ya watu. Anyway tuishie hapa nisije kuwachosha bure issues zenyewe ziko out of topic.

 

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Leo ni mwendo wa kukupiga spana tu, mpaka akili ikukae sawa, Naenda kujibu hoja yako ya kwanza mpaka ya mwisho kwa mlinganisho wa Russia Vs USA.

1."Mrusi ni mchoyo wa kila kitu na ndo maana ni mataifa machache yanayo ongea Kirusi" FUSO
☆JIBU: Urusi ni miongoni mwa mataifa machache duniani yanayotumia lugha yake asilia kama lugha ya taifa, hata sisi Tanzania tupo kwenye list hii kwa kigezo cha kiswahili chetu, lakini Mpaka muda huu USA anatumia lugha ya muingereza (english) kama lugha yake ya taifa. Hivo basi hoja yako ni dhaifu kwasababu Russia ana lugha yake asilia ila USA hana zaidi ya kutumia lugha ya malikia kwa kuivisha jina la kihuni American english.

2. "Pesa zake nyingi anatumia kutengenezea silaha badala ya kusaidia nchi zinazo endelea" FUSO
☆JIBU: Mosi, kila nchi inatumia pesa kulingana na vipaumbele vyake, let say Urusi inatumia pesa zake nyingi kwenye silaha halafu USA inatumia pesa nyingi kwenye kampen ya kueneza Ushoga duniani(kupanga nikuchagua)
Pili, Nchi huru siyo lazima isaidiwe, maana ya kuwa huru nikujitegemea na kuendesha uchumi wako mwenyewe. Aliekuwa Rais wa USA D.Trump aliwahi kusema, "kuendelea kuzisaidia pesa nchi za Africa zilizo dai uhuru wa kujitegemea ni ujinga, kama nchi haziwezi kujitegemea zenyewe bila misaada basi zitawaliwe tena na wanao zisaidia mpaka zitakapo acha kuwa tegemezi" Trump. Hivo basi kwa fact hiyo ya Trump, Hoja yako hii pia ni dhaifu.

3. "Mrusi siyo muumini wa domokrasia ni dictatorship"
JIBU; mosi, Ni ujinga mtupu kufikiri mfumo wa democracy ndo mfumo pekee unaotakiwa kuendesha serikali za nchi zote duniani, kuna mifumo zaidi ya 15 ya kuendesha nchi na kila nchi huamua itumie mfumo upi kulingana na nature yake. mfano, China-Socialism, UK- Kingdomship na French-Democracy.
Pili, Mfumo unaotumika kuendesha serikali ya Russia siyo dictatorship bali ni Federal democratic state.
Tatu, USA unae dai anatumia pure democracy itakuwa hujui hata aina ya democracy anayotumia USA, Raia wa USA kura yake haina nguvu yeyote katika uchaguzi wa Rais je hiyo ndo maana ya democracy? Hoja yako hii pia haina mashiko.

4. "Urusi haina influence yeyote Africa, Ulaya na America" FUSO
JIBU; Mosi, Inaonekana hujui hata maana ya neno "Influence" kitendo cha Uchumi wa nchi za Ulaya kutemea uwepo wa Urusi hiyo siyo Influence? Russia mpaka leo hii ndo influencer mkubwa wa bara la ulaya bila Urusi ulaya nisawa na Afrika tu.
Pili, Kwenye bara la America ukiwatoa N.America (USA na Canada) the rest of Americans (Especially Southern part) wote wapo upande wa Urusi, mfano, Brazil, Argentina na nk.
Tatu; Kama Putin asingekuwa na Influences kwa bara la Africa nchi za Afrika zingebaki neutral kwenye kura ya kuiondoa Urusi kwenye baraza la usalama UN? Au Zelensky angeishia kusikilizwa hotuba yake kwa AU na Viongozi wanne tu kati ya viongozi zaidi ya 50 wa nchi za Africa au Mwenyekiti wa AU angeenda Urusi kuongea na Putin?
HOJA YAKO HII PIA HAINA MASHIKO.

5. "Hana bajeti yeyote kwa nchi za Afrika" FUSO
JIBU: Mosi, Kwani nani alikwambia afrika nisehemu ya Urusi hadi ihusike kwenye bajeti ya Urusi? Nitajie nchi za Afrika ambazo ni makoloni ya Urusi hadi aya include kwenye bajet yake.
Pili; Nchi karibia zote afrika ziliomba uhuru na zikaupata maana yake ziliomba zijitawale na kujiendesha zenyewe sasa bajeti ya Urusi inakuja vipi tena kwa mataifa huru?
Narudia tena kauli ya Trump "Kama nchi za Afrika zimeshindwa kujiendesha bila kutegemea misaada yetu basi zitawaliwe tena"

I STAND WITH RUSSIA [emoji635]

Nimekuvulia kofia🙌

 

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1. Kazi ya Mikono ya vijana wetu huko Ushogani Ukro.

2. Jamani nyie, Urraaaaaaaa 💪

Mamaayo zao, kucha kuchwa kuficha silaha kwenye malengo ya umma wacha sasa Putin awanyoshe.

Majumba yamenyonyolewa utadhani Kuku wa sherehe.

Hakika tumeuina mkono wako Baba Putin.

Urraaaaaaaaa 🤗⚰🤗🚮

 

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Makubaliano na ww mkuu

Versailles peace treaty 1919 mkutano ulifanyikia Paris kumpunguza / kuyaondoa makali ya mjerumani.

Baada ya wajapani kushushiwa kitu kizito(hiroshima na nagasaki) wamarekani waliwasainisha mkataba 1951.

Siku zote mshindi ndio anaamua uishije baada ya kukufunza adabu.

Ulivyosema makubaliano na mm mkuu ulikua unamaanisha nn?

 

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🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡The result of the destruction of the command staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

Ukrainian militant shocked by what is left of his battalion's command post

 

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🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡Analysis of the situation in Ukraine from enemies

The main conclusions of the American Institute for the Study of War:
▪️The Russian army creates conditions for an operational pause after the capture of Lisichansk, strengthens territorial and administrative control over Severodonetsk and Lisichansk.
▪️Russian forces continued offensive operations east of Bakhmut in order to prepare for an offensive on Bakhmut and Seversk.
▪️Russian forces continue to conduct offensive operations north of Kharkov

 

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Ujeruman Alikua mbabe Sana awamu ya Hitler, tangu jamaa afariki wamekua rojo Sana[emoji4]

Kwa eu ya sasa ujeruman ndio mwenye uchumi mkubwa

 

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🇳🇴⚡“On the night of July 5, a strike of oil and gas workers began in Norway demanding an increase in industry wages. The work of three oil and gas fields on the continental shelf in the North Sea is being stopped. From July 6, workers from three other fields will join the strike, and from July 9 - from three more fields. This will lead to a reduction in daily gas production in Norway by 25%, oil - by 15%"

 

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Siku mkiweza kuteka Kiev uniamshe kwenye ndoto zangu, supapawa la hovyo sana, kainchi kadogo hapo jirani kameshindikana, halafu huyu ndiye waarabu humtegemea jameni....

Milipuko yarindima ndani ya mji wa Urusi

Majengo yalipuka huku milipuko ikiendelea.... ====== Russia has accused Ukraine over explosions which reportedly killed three people in the city of Belgorod, near the border with Ukraine. The regional governor said the blasts hit dozens of residential buildings and air defences had been...

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Naona mada zako hapo juu [emoji115]. Unaanzisha sana uzi wa kutafuta wadau wa kujitia moyo

Russia baba lao

 

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Finland and Sweden on July 4 completed negotiations on joining NATO in one round, and on July 5 the accession protocol will be signed.

 

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Evil America once again exposed:

Russia presents new evidence from US funded Ukraine biolabs.​

Pentagon backed facilities made “biological weapons components” and tried to cover it up, Russian military says.

Materials relating to the military biological activities of the United States in Ukraine which were presented by Lieutenant General Igor Kirillov are seen on a screen during a briefing in Moscow, Russia. March 17, 2022 © Sputnik/Russian Defense Ministry
Moscow believes that laboratories in Ukraine funded by the US military were making biological weapons components, but that local staff was being kept in the dark about their research, a senior Russian general said on Thursday.
Lieutenant-General Igor Kirillov, who commands the Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Protection Forces of Russia, presented documents and imagery showing why the military has come to such a conclusion.
“We believe that components of biological weapons were being made on the territory of Ukraine,” said Kirillov.
He noted that the documents he was presenting “have the signatures of real officials and are certified by the seals of organizations,” for those journalists and experts in the West doubting their veracity.
One document, dated March 6, 2015 confirms the “direct participation of the Pentagon in the financing of military biological projects in Ukraine,” Kirillov said. The US officially funded the projects through the Ukrainian Ministry of Health, according to the Agreement on Joint Biological Activities. However, the evidence shows that the real recipients of some $32 million in funds were Ukrainian Defense Ministry laboratories in Kiev, Odessa, Lvov and Kharkov.
READ MORE: Russia promises more disclosures on Ukraine biolabs
These facilities were chosen by the US Department of Defense’s Threat Reduction Administration (DTRA), and the contractor Black and Veatch, to carry out the U-P-8 project, aimed at studying the pathogens of Crimea-Congo hemorrhagic fever, leptospirosis, and hantaviruses, Kirillov said, pointing to a slide with the Pentagon’s request.
“From our point of view, the interest of US military biologists is due to the fact that these pathogens have natural foci both in Ukraine and in Russia, and their use can be disguised as natural disease outbreaks,” the general said.
According to the evidence, the labs isolated three bacterial pathogens (causing plague, brucellosis and leptospirosis) and six families of viruses, including coronaviruses, all of which were drug-resistant and spread rapidly from animals to humans. A number of documents confirmed the samples taken in Ukraine to other countries – Georgia, Germany, and the UK.
Kirillov showed official documents confirming the transfer of 5,000 samples of blood serum taken from Ukrainian citizens to the Pentagon-backed Richard Lugar center in Tbilisi, Georgia. Another 773 biological assays were transferred to the UK, while an agreement was signed for the transfer of “unlimited quantities” of infectious materials to the Friedrich Loeffler Institute, Germany’s leading center for animal diseases.
READ MORE: US-funded labs in Ukraine dealt with bat coronavirus, Moscow claims
However, the analysis of the obtained evidence suggests that Ukrainian specialists were not aware of the potential risks of transferring these materials, and may have been kept in the dark about the true goal of the ongoing research, Kirillov noted.
Documents from Project P-781, a study of ways of transmitting diseases to humans through bats, showed it was carried out by the Kharkov laboratory and the Lugar Center in Georgia, but Ukraine received most of the $1.6 million grant for the project. Kirillov said that “systematic” research in this area has been carried out since 2009, under the supervision of US specialists – referencing projects P-382, P-444 and P-568.
As one of the key people involved, Kirillov named the head of the DTRA office at the US Embassy in Kiev, Joanna Wintrol.
“Maybe she’s worth talking to, journalists?” he said.
Wintrol left Kiev in August 2020. In her parting interview, she insisted no US scientists worked in Ukrainian biolabs and accused Russia of spreading “false information” about the program.
Kirillov pointed to mass outbreaks of avian flu in Russia and the EU in 2021, causing billions in damages, while the Kharkov Institute of Veterinary Medicine was studying wild birds as transmission vectors and assessing conditions under which the spread could cause economic damage and food insecurity. Evidence now shows the institute collected strains of avian flu capable of jumping species, Kirillov said, calling for an international investigation into the matter.
READ MORE: Russia claims Ukraine destroying evidence of US-funded bioweapons program
Some of the documents at the Kherson laboratory appear to be missing and may have been destroyed, Kirillov said, suggesting it was related to the 2018 outbreak of a mosquito-borne parasitic disease in that region, and a possible cover-up.
Four cases of dirofilariasis were detected in February that year, which is not typical for mosquito life cycles, the general said. Pentagon representatives visited the local hospitals in April, collecting medical records and getting briefed on the epidemiological investigation. However, “no documentary evidence regarding this outbreak has been found in the Kherson laboratory,” leading the Russian military to believe that “the urgency of destroying such documentary evidence is explained by the desire to prevent access to them by Russian specialists.”
There was also an outbreak of drug-resistant tuberculosis in 2018, among the citizens of the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics, with 70 cases detected around the village of Pesky – on the frontline with Ukrainian troops – alone.
“This may indicate a deliberate infection, or an accidental leakage of the pathogen from one of the biological laboratories located on the territory of Ukraine,” Kirillov said.
The Russian general brought up the long history of US conducting banned biological research in other countries, noting as an example that in 2010 Washington apologized for syphilis experiments in Guatemala.
“We will continue to examine the evidence and inform the global community about the illegal activities of the Pentagon and other US government agencies in Ukraine,” Kirillov said.

 

[Msemaji_]

Mlikimbilia na kujaribu kuparamia haka kainchi kule Kyev kakashindikana.....

Ndio nimeshakubali kwa kweli ukubwa wa taifa sio kitu, kuna siku Watanzania walipiga makelele sana kumhusu Kagame nilikua najiuliza kainchi saizi ya mkoa kanasababisha nchi yote mlie lie kwani kana nini.... ha ha ha!!!
Hako kainchi ka-Rwanda pia kamekua kero kwa liinchi lote la DRC.

Soma hapo chini map not to scale maana yake hiyo raman haijazingatiwa scale hivyo basi vipimo havipo sawa

 

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[emoji1255] The problem of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is the lack of aviation. Here is another downed plane.

Soon we will face the complete absence of aviation, as such, which will further weaken the forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to counter the Russians, who continue to put pressure.

To the moment I can concur with other Pro Russia, though you're Pro-NATO but you really explain facts and otherwise you know what is opinions particularly emotions.

Let attack agenda, congrats!!