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Inside the Ukrainian factory turning pick-up trucks into weapons of war​

Joe Barnes
Sun, October 30, 2022, 9:14 PM·4 min read

Workshop in Kryvyi Rih - Heathcliff O'Malley
Sneaking up on the enemy, it doesn’t take Pawel and his team of artillery men more than two attempts to destroy a Russian target.
Capable of striking from range, his three-man unit has rocked makeshift headquarters and ammunition dumps belonging to Moscow’s forces all across the Kherson front line.
But they are not equipped with super-accurate Himars rocket launchers or the like.
Instead, Pawel and his comrades unleash their deadly barrages from a pick-up truck fitted with a BM-21 Grad, a multi-launch rocket system – just one of the weapons helping Ukrainian forces secure parity in firepower against the Russians.

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At the rear of the southern line is a secretive factory where engineers work around the clock to ensure their countrymen at the front have the kit they need to recapture Kherson.
The Telegraph was given exclusive access to the facility as Pawel visited to check up on the progress of the next improvised pick-up truck set to join the counter-offensive.
Inside the workshop sit two pristine Nissan and Mitsubishi trucks, already painted in Ukraine's signature olive green camouflage, with their cargo beds removed.

Inside a workshop in Kryvyi Rih - Heathcliff O'Malley
It is far from a high-tech production line but the engineers explain they are able to convert at least one truck a week.



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As Pawel watches on the mechanics, who usually manufacture tools for the pharmaceutical industry, weld a bracket, to which the firing system will be attached, onto the chassis of the vehicle.
Across the room lies the firing tubes that will eventually unleash 122mm missiles.
Highly nimble, Ukraine's armed forces are able to take the pick-up to locations other rocket-launching systems cannot reach, fire on the enemy and escape before any counter-battery fire.
Pawel argues this makes them even more useful than Himars, which have changed the balance of the war since they started in Kyiv from the United States.

Workshop in Kryvyi Rih - Heathcliff O'Malley

Workshop in Kryvyi Rih - Heathcliff O'Malley
"This piece of equipment is far more useful when you're located just a few kilometres from the enemy," he told the Telegraph.

Israel hawezi kutia mguu Ukraine, anajua mziki wa Urusi. Mrusi atampa ushirikiano Iran ambomoe.

4by94 said:

Limen achen ushoga wa kutak kulelewa , mnadai hamuewapend wazung hlf mnataka kula vyao

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ma-ta-ko wewe... kwani nimekwambia mimi ninanjaa..... hapa na ongelea kuhusu makubaliano yao..... tatizo mnajibu tu...ila ni wavivu wa kufuatilia mambo....

Pietro said:

Ulisema mpk mwezi November jeshi la Ukraine litakua limefutwa kwa kupata kipigo cha Historia, November ni kesho Mkuu. Nakukumbusha tu.

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Wiki mbili zilizo pita ulisikia Generali wa Ukraine alisema nini? Alirudia maneno yale yale niliyo yasema tangu mwanzo kwamba kumbe jeshi la Russia liliwawekea mtego wa panya jeshi la Zelensky huko KHERSON, waliwasubiri wajae kibaba kwanza halafu wawashushie fundisho la mwaka/zawadi ya Krismas - sasa sijui alishtuliwa na nani aliye mwambia,look here General - uondokaji wa wanajeshi wa Urusi mkoani KHERSON pamoja na jiji na kujifanya wameacha baadhi ya silaha zao nyuma kitendo hicho kijeshi kinaonekana ni "too good to be true,which is true" ndivyo Generali alivyo shituliwa hivyo aka toa order kwamba jeshi lake lisijiingize KHERSON kichwa kichwa, actually baadhi ya wanajeshi wa Ukraine wamehamua kujisalimisha kwa jeshi la Urusi kuliko kuendelea kupigana a futile war ambayo wana uhakika kwamba jeshi la Ukraine haliwezi kushinda.

buccaneer said:

Basi ni mtazamo wa kijinga yaani uache nchi yako ichukuliwe huku unaangalia huo ni uzoba wa kiwango Cha u-professor

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Kweli ni uzoba lakini kuingia kwenye vita ambayo unajua huwezi kushinda unapigana ili usionekane zoba na matokeo yake mnapoteza maisha kwa kiasi kikubwa na hiyo nchi yenyewe mnaiharibu na mwishowe inakuja kuchukuliwa hali mshakufa sana, Binafsi nina mitazamo tofauti kwenye haya mambo ya vita na utengenezaji na uuzaji wa silaha.

Bukyanagandi said:

Wiki mbili zilizo pita ulisikia Generali wa Ukraine alisema nini? Alirudia maneno yale yale niliyo yasema tangu mwanzo kwamba kumbe jeshi la Russia liliwawekea mtego wa panya jeshi la Zelensky huko KHERSON, waliwasubiri wajae kibaba kwanza halafu wawashushie fundisho la mwaka/zawadi ya Krismas - sasa sijui alishtuliwa na nani aliye mwambia,look here General - uondokaji wa wanajeshi wa Urusi mkoani KHERSON pamoja na jiji na kujifanya wameacha baadhi ya silaha zao nyuma kitendo hicho kijeshi kinaonekana ni "too good to be true,which is true" ndivyo Generali alivyo shituliwa hivyo aka toa order kwamba jeshi lake lisijiingize KHERSON kichwa kichwa, actually baadhi ya wanajeshi wa Ukraine wamehamua kujisalimisha kwa jeshi la Urusi kuliko kuendelea kupigana a futile war ambayo wana uhakika kwamba jeshi la Ukraine haliwezi kushinda.

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We jamaa muongo sana eti jeshi la ukraine limejisalimisha unaongelea mahaba niuwe.Hujajibu swali unarukaruka tuu

Bwana Utam said:

Alaska ipi MKUU

Hem ongea fact acha huu utoto bado hujafikia level za chini kiasi hiki MKUU chakufananisha Alaska na Kaliningrad shida nn mpaka mnatoka nje ya reli kiasi hiki !!!??

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Kwanini hamtaki kuambiwa ukweli?!

Si mnataka turudi kwenye Historia,bhas Alaska irudi kwa Russia. Kaliningrad irudi Ujerumani. Shida iko wapi?!

Mtoto wa nzi said:

Sasa wao wamemuwekea vikwazo maelfu ....lakini wao grain tu na gesi vilio viiiiingiiiiii. Watulie

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Wamelikoroga wao,halafu wanalalamika nini, swine. Yaani Putin kutumia uwanadamu kuruhusu meli za Ukraine na za kimataifa kusafirisha ngano and other produce kwenda kwenye masoko ya nje, wakamuona Putin mjinga ndio maana British Intel agencies na Zelensky wakatumia mwanya huo kutumia baadhi ya Meli kama spring board za kurushia Drones kwenda kushambulia Navy fleet za Urusi bandarini Sevaspol - huu ni ujinga uliyo pitiliza mipaka - na Uingereza inajitafutia balaa tu, sijui hata akili zao zinafanyaga kazi vipi - kakisiwa kadogo tu kanajitia kimbembele kama nini,yaani nako kanajiona ni lama vile ka-mini super power wakati Urusi ina uwezo wa kuzamisha kisiwa kizima cha Uingereza in no time at all halafu viongozi/jeshi la Uingereza linataka kuwaweka raia wake na Taifa lao lote in harms way.Mapema jana kambi ya Uingereza iliyo kuwa inatumiwa na special forces wa Uingereza (mostly likely SAS) imetiwa kiberiti na precision missile ya Urusi sijui kama kuna mtu aliye pona pale!! Na Uingereza ikiendeleza hujuma zake dhidi ya Urusi watakuja kujuta sana sana kwa vitendo vyao vya kijinga, just imagine kumbe ndio walihusika na ulipuaji wa bomba za gesi Nord1 and Nord2, jaribio la kulipuwa daraja la Kerch, utumaji wa Drones kujaribu kulipuwa makao makuu Russian NAVY nk, yaani they're more aggresive and calculating kuliko Waamerika - 'am sure Russia military will eventually figure out how to deal with them summarily bila ya kuwaonea huruma hata kidogo.

Bukyanagandi said:

Wamelikoroga wao,halafu wanalalamika nini, swine. Yaani Putin kutumia uwanadamu kuruhusu meli za Ukraine na za kimataifa kusafirisha ngano and other produce kwenda kwenye masoko ya nje, wakamuona Putin mjinga ndio maana British Intel agencies na Zelensky wakatumia mwanya huo kutumia baadhi ya Meli kama spring board za kurushia Drones kwenda kushambulia Navy fleet za Urusi bandarini Sevaspol - huu ni ujinga uliyo pitiliza mipaka - na Uingereza inajitafutia balaa tu, sijui hata akili zao zinafanyaga kazi vipi - kakisiwa kadogo tu kanajitia kimbembele kama nini,yaani nako kanajiona ni lama vile ka-mini super power wakati Urusi ina uwezo wa kuzamisha kisiwa kizima cha Uingereza in no time at all halafu viongozi/jeshi la Uingereza linataka kuwaweka raia wake na Taifa lao lote in harms way.Mapema jana kambi ya Uingereza iliyo kuwa inatumiwa na special forces wa Uingereza (mostly likely SAS) imetiwa kiberiti na precision missile ya Urusi sijui kama kuna mtu aliye pona pale!! Na Uingereza ikiendeleza hujuma zake dhidi ya Urusi watakuja kujuta sana sana kwa vitendo vyao vya kijinga, just imagine kumbe ndio walihusika na ulipuaji wa bomba za gesi Nord1 and Nord2, jaribio la kulipuwa daraja la Kerch, utumaji wa Drones kujaribu kulipuwa makao makuu Russian NAVY nk, yaani they're more aggresive and calculating kuliko Waamerika - 'am sure Russia military will eventually figure out how to deal with them summarily bila ya kuwaonea huruma hata kidogo.

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Naona uingereza anachukua nafasi ya Poland

Bukyanagandi said:

Wiki mbili zilizo pita ulisikia Generali wa Ukraine alisema nini? Alirudia maneno yale yale niliyo yasema tangu mwanzo kwamba kumbe jeshi la Russia liliwawekea mtego wa panya jeshi la Zelensky huko KHERSON, waliwasubiri wajae kibaba kwanza halafu wawashushie fundisho la mwaka/zawadi ya Krismas - sasa sijui alishtuliwa na nani aliye mwambia,look here General - uondokaji wa wanajeshi wa Urusi mkoani KHERSON pamoja na jiji na kujifanya wameacha baadhi ya silaha zao nyuma kitendo hicho kijeshi kinaonekana ni "too good to be true,which is true" ndivyo Generali alivyo shituliwa hivyo aka toa order kwamba jeshi lake lisijiingize KHERSON kichwa kichwa, actually baadhi ya wanajeshi wa Ukraine wamehamua kujisalimisha kwa jeshi la Urusi kuliko kuendelea kupigana a futile war ambayo wana uhakika kwamba jeshi la Ukraine haliwezi kushinda.

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Hahahaha sasa Mkuu unadhani Ukraine ni wapumbafu kama Russia ambao waliondoa wanajeshi wao Kharkiv na kuwapeleka kusini baada ya kuchuzwa na Ukraine?!...Hali iliyopelekea Russia kuukosa mji wa Kharkiv ambao ni mkubwa baada ya Kiev,ikapelekea wakaikosa Izium, Kupiansk na Lyman ambazo zilikua ni vitovu vya usafirishaji wa mahitaji ya wanajeshi wa Urusi.

Ukraine wanapata Intel toka recon flights za NATO zinaruka hapo black sea na kwingineko ambazo zinafatilia nyendo za wanajeshi wa Urusi ndio maana hawakuingia kama mang'ombe kule Kherson kama Mrusi alivyotarajia bado wanajipanga na kupiga supply lines za Russia kama madaraja juzi Antonovsky bridge imepigwa tena, Pontoon bridge iliyotengenezwa hivi karibuni na Russia imelipuliwa. Sasa hivi kila kukicha wanalipua ammo depots (na air defenses) ili kuwafanya warusi wakose silaha maana wanajua Russia ina waoutgun. Kiufupi mtego ambao Russia iliwategea Ukraine umefeli,na Ukraine bado inasonga mbele huko kusini japo si kwa haraka kama awali.

Urusi kaanza tulipua asubuhi hii

mtarimbo said:

We jamaa muongo sana eti jeshi la ukraine limejisalimisha unaongelea mahaba niuwe.Hujajibu swali unarukaruka tuu

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Tell you what Amigo, 'am not an avarage Joe -see! Stop calling me a liar-you're so driven by a rabid hatred and arrogance, unataka jukwaa zima wawe wanakusikiliza wewe tu, members wengine wawe muzzled tu au waunge mkono imani zako - unadhani watu wakiwa huru kutoa maoni yao - wewe as an individual unapoteza nini?? Leta maoni yako mbadala members watakuelewa.

Chukulia mfano wa mimi kumtaja Generali/msemaji wa jeshi la Ukraine kuhusu counter offensive waliopanga katika harakati zao za kutaka kukomboa eneo la KHERSON na mji wake, sasa wewe unaonekana ni mbobezi wa masuala ya mitandao kama sikosei, sasa unashindwa nini kutumia web search engines ku-check nilicho kisema mimi kama kina substance au la as simple as that. lakini naona kwa bahati mbaya tuseme time hiyo wewe huna kabisa, muda wote ni ku-track ninacho kisema mimi na baadhi ya wenzangu humu na kujaribu by hooks and crooks kutoa kasoro badala ya kutoa maoni mbadala unashambulia watu na kuwabatiza majina ya kila sampuli - why, kwa sanabu unawaona wana maoni tofauti na ya kwako/yenu ni hilo tu!!

4by94 said:

Alivamia na SMO ilikuwa SMO ya siku 3 leo mwez wa 9 tunaingia , subir ubao umgeukia ataikimbia Moscow

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Mmeanza kusema hayo leo??

Bukyanagandi said:

Wamelikoroga wao,halafu wanalalamika nini, swine. Yaani Putin kutumia uwanadamu kuruhusu meli za Ukraine na za kimataifa kusafirisha ngano and other produce kwenda kwenye masoko ya nje, wakamuona Putin mjinga ndio maana British Intel agencies na Zelensky wakatumia mwanya huo kutumia baadhi ya Meli kama spring board za kurushia Drones kwenda kushambulia Navy fleet za Urusi bandarini Sevaspol - huu ni ujinga uliyo pitiliza mipaka - na Uingereza inajitafutia balaa tu, sijui hata akili zao zinafanyaga kazi vipi - kakisiwa kadogo tu kanajitia kimbembele kama nini,yaani nako kanajiona ni lama vile ka-mini super power wakati Urusi ina uwezo wa kuzamisha kisiwa kizima cha Uingereza in no time at all halafu viongozi/jeshi la Uingereza linataka kuwaweka raia wake na Taifa lao lote in harms way.Mapema jana kambi ya Uingereza iliyo kuwa inatumiwa na special forces wa Uingereza (mostly likely SAS) imetiwa kiberiti na precision missile ya Urusi sijui kama kuna mtu aliye pona pale!! Na Uingereza ikiendeleza hujuma zake dhidi ya Urusi watakuja kujuta sana sana kwa vitendo vyao vya kijinga, just imagine kumbe ndio walihusika na ulipuaji wa bomba za gesi Nord1 and Nord2, jaribio la kulipuwa daraja la Kerch, utumaji wa Drones kujaribu kulipuwa makao makuu Russian NAVY nk, yaani they're more aggresive and calculating kuliko Waamerika - 'am sure Russia military will eventually figure out how to deal with them summarily bila ya kuwaonea huruma hata kidogo.

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Hizo Meli zilikua ni legitimate targets maana zilikua zikishambulia Ukraine kwa kurusha long range missiles,Ukraine ina haki zote ya kuzishambulia. Kumbuka tangu wiki mbili zilizopita Urusi ilisema itajitoa kwenye makubaliano ya usafirishaji wa nafaka hivyo hili lilitarajiwa na wala sio kitu kipya sema Russia anatafuta sababu tu kwamba wamejitoa kisa Ukraine imewashambulia. Wao mbona walikua wanarusha Makombora toka Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant?! Sasa Kati yake na Ukraine Nani anafanya ugaidi?!

Halafu Russia inatafuta tu kusave face baada ya Meli zake kushambuliwa,inasema imeshambulia kambi ya SAS huko Ukraine ina maana siku zote hizo walikua hawaioni hiyo base waliacha SAS itoe mafunzo wakisubiri washambuliwe meli zao ndo waipige Makombora?!,fix nyingine bhana. Uingereza ina haja gani ya kuweka kambi Ukraine wakati wana program ya kuwafundisha wanajeshi wa Ukraine nchini mwao,kila baada miezi mitatu inafunza wanajeshi 10,000. Tatizo lako kila anachosema Urusi unakibeba kama kilivyo na kutuletea hapa bila hata kuchekesha akili kidogo lakini West wakisema hapohapo bila hata kufikiria unasema Propaganda,za kuambiwa changanya na zako.

Urusi apunguze propaganda bhana.[emoji23]

Ninaweza said:

"Civil war" ulisababishwa na Putin alimtumia jamii zile kutaka kuingiza kibaraka wake.

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Thibitisha.

NAMBA MOJA AJAYE NCHINI said:

Si wanasema atakufa Muda Sio MREFU!?

Angalau anapinga ushoga huyu Jamaa! Namsapoti KWA hilo!!!

Je hao wanaosapoti America wanaunga mkono ushoga!!?

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Hakuna tofauti kati ya wewe na Jiwe

HIMARS said:

Urusi kaanza tulipua asubuhi hii

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Huyo tushamzoea,uzuri hapigi military targets yeye ni kulipua Tu apartments,chekechea za watoto na miundombinu,kamaliza.

pureView Zeiss said:

Tatizo wabongo mnafananisha Ukraine na Burundi au Congo kumbukeni hawa ni wazungu Kwa namna yeyote Ile watapata misaada ya kila namna na watavuka salama kipindi hiki cha baridi..
Ni Nani anapicha au video za wakimbizi wa Ukraine wakigombea chakula kwenye kambi za wakimbizi? Au Nani ana picha za kambi za wakimbizi kama ilivyo huku Africa?

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Kilichowafanya Wazungu wafe kwa Wingi kwenye Corona kuliko hata Africa ilitokana na wazungu hao hao kuweka imani kwenye mifumo ya afya na kujiaminisha kwamba hakuna kitakachowadhuru kwa sababu wana Hospitali kubwa, za kisasa, matokeo yake corona ikawaacha uchi..

Ijumaa Kremlin walituambia wametungua roketi zote lakini cha ajabu Daraja lilikua limeharibiwa,sasa sijui hizo roketi zilizoharibu Daraja zilitokea mbinguni juu kwa Baba[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Ukraine’s military shells Kherson bridge, all rockets shot down by air defenses
tass.comOct 28, 2022 1:01 PM
It is reported that there are no casualties
KHERSON, October 28. /TASS/. The Ukrainian military shelled the Antonovka Bridge in Kherson with HIMARS rockets, with all the munitions shot down by air defenses, the region’s emergency services reported on Friday.

Source: TASS

Makombora zaidi ya 40 uelekeo wa Kyiv, Lviv, Zaporizhzhia etc